Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · August 13, 2013
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
August 13, 2013
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, August 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Gerry Reppucci, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Gerry Reppucci, Chair
Jack Currier
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Robert Shaw
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Reppucci explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Reppucci explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Reppucci also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. Douglas A. Pominville (Owner) 140 Manchester Street (Sheet
137 Lot 143) requesting variance to exceed maximum fence
height, 6 feet permitted, 9½ feet proposed. RA Zone, Ward
2.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
Rob Shaw
JP Boucher
Stacy Pominville, 140 Manchester Street, Nashua, NH. Mrs.
Pominville apologized about her interpretation about the fence,
she said it was a misunderstanding. She said that due to the
topography of the land, the wall and the fence will allow the
maximum amount of privacy and enjoyment of the lot. She said
that the existing fence has been rotting, due to the slope and
runoff from the abutting property, and the additional four feet
of lattice was added about 15 years ago, as the back yard was
redone, and the pool got more use, and privacy became a factor.
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Mrs. Pominville said the property in back of theirs is
substantially higher, and they feel like they’re in a fishbowl,
where people can look in. She said that they’re starting a new
family and feel it is important to take the necessary steps to
create a safe environment, with a safe fence that won’t fall
over, and maintains the privacy in the back yard. She said it
would represent an undue hardship if the case is not supported.
Mr. Reppucci asked who constructed the stone wall.
Mrs. Pominville said it was Ed Forte, a professional mason
contractor, he did it at the end of June.
Mr. Reppucci said that it appears as if the top of the old fence
is virtually the same as the top of the new fence.
Mrs. Pominville said it’s about six inches less than the old
fence.
Mr. Johnson said it’s normally practice to verify if a permit or
variance is needed before construction begins. He asked how
they were made aware that they needed a variance.
Mrs. Pominville said that a building inspector informed them
that someone called him, and he relayed the information that a
variance was required for the extra height. She said that they
talked to the neighbors about the request.
Mr. Reppucci said that there are some letters in opposition, and
an appraisal letter; Mr. Currier gave Mrs. Pominville his
copies.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Frank Giarrusso, 142 Manchester Street, Nashua, NH. Mr.
Giarrusso said they knew about this before the construction
started, and the fence was discussed. He said the new fence is
more aesthetically appeasing, and is in favor.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier and Prolman, P.A., 20 Trafalgar
Square, Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier said that he represents Mr.
Trombley and Ms. Moran, who are opposing abutters, who wrote the
letters. He said a fence in Nashua of 9½ feet is very high. He
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said that most of them in the City are 6 feet in height. He
said the proposed fence is a third higher than what is allowed
by the Ordinance, and it is out of character with the
neighborhood, a realtor’s letter says it has an adverse affect
on the neighbor’s property, and the applicant has failed to show
that there is any hardship. He said the fence is too high. He
said the topography is not a problem, and just because the
property in back is a little higher, it doesn’t mean that they
get a fence this tall.
Atty. Prunier said that the fence is not in the public interest,
it’s only to benefit the applicant. He said the older fence
with the lattice, at least it let the light through, the new
fence does not. He said it adversely affects his client’s
property and their enjoyment of their back yard.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the appearance of the old fence was more
impactful than the stone wall and the new fence. He asked if
the new fence is more of a detriment than what was there for so
long.
Atty. Prunier said that his clients feel that the new fence,
because of its density, adversely affects their back yard in not
allowing sunlight to their back yard, so much so, that they paid
to have an appraiser come in and review the property.
Mr. Reppucci asked if they felt that way about the old fence as
well.
Atty. Prunier said he didn’t know. He said that there’s no
hardship with the height of the proposed fence.
Mr. Currier mentioned that the letter mentions a dispute over
the location of the fence, that it could be built on the
neighbor’s property.
Atty. Prunier said that issue is not before the Zoning Board to
decide. He said it may or may not exist.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR – REBUTTAL:
Mrs. Pominville said she believes the boundary issue is what
started all of this. She said the property was surveyed by the
abutter, and there were markers into the ground. She said that
they believed they were moved, and called our construction
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people, saying that they were moved, which they were not. She
said that the abutter wanted them to stop, and get the property
surveyed, and they responded by saying they didn’t feel that it
was necessary. She said that neither their workers or they did
not move any of the markers.
Mrs. Pominville said that they actually moved their fence closer
in by 2½ feet, just to make sure they were on the safe side, and
the granite marker is still on the safe side of that line, just
to make sure they are within their lot.
Doug Pominville, 140 Manchester Street, Nashua, NH. Mr.
Pominville said that they cut 2½ feet of concrete off of the
pool apron. He said the wall is twenty inches wide. He said at
one time, their fence was attached to the Trombley’s fence. He
pointed out a photo, where there is a much wider gap now. He
said for property values, the proposed fence is a Trex fence,
it’s an all-weather fence, and never has to be maintained. He
said they ordered it from Colorado, and it shouldn’t degrade the
neighborhood, or take anything away from it.
Mrs. Pominville submitted pictures of other walls and fences
that are taller than six feet in height, taken right in the
neighborhood.
Mr. Pominville said that by looking at the pictures, the Board
can see that there really isn’t much of a height difference.
Also, he said that they only share less than eight feet of land
with the Trombly’s lot, most of their lot abuts the Moran’s.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS – REBUTTAL:
Atty. Prunier said he’s not here to discuss the boundary dispute
between the lots, even if there is one, and it’s not a Board
issue. He said the hardship has not been shown, the public
interest has not been shown, the value as indicated by the
appraisal has been diminished, and all of these issues should
cause the variance to be denied. He said that the nine foot
tall fence takes the daylight out of the backyard of his
clients.
Mr. Currier said he’d like to do a site walk. He said after a
site walk, he feels he could make a sound judgment on whether
the nine foot tall high fence is detrimental to the abutter, or
not, and how needed the extra height is for the fence.
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Mr. Boucher asked what staff would do on a property where there
is some slope, and a retaining wall is built, and it’s
backfilled, and then a fence put on top of it, whether that
would meet the six foot height limitation.
Mr. Falk said in a situation like that, most likely Staff would
not require an applicant
Mr. Reppucci said he didn’t think that it’s logical that an
appraiser stated that the fence was an issue, it’s closer in to
the property line, it’s the same or less height as what was
historically there, and is a nice looking fence.
Mr. Shaw said that the wall is a beautiful structure, perhaps
the reference is to commercial, he thought it’s the scale of the
fence, at 9½ feet you’ expect to see at an industrial or
commercial zone. He said that aesthetically, it doesn’t look
industrial or commercial at all, if anything, they must be
referring to the scale of the fence. He said there is a slope
to the property, but then it levels out. He said the Board must
find the right balance, because the abutter’s view on the other
side is impacted.
Mr. Johnson stated that the section for fences, 190-44, is
short, all it says is that fences shall not exceed six feet, and
not interfere with traffic circulation. He said he understands
that it’s a variance, but the Code is left up to some sort of
interpretation. He said the contractor should have been aware,
and should have asked if this is permissible. He said on his
site visit, there’s not much height differential between the
proposed fence and the neighbor’s fence, maybe a foot or so, so
the height isn’t significant. He said given the circumstances,
9½ feet may be excessive, maybe by a foot, but given the
circumstances, he said he’s weighing in favor of the fence. He
said the other factor is the intent of the applicant. He said
they’ve made an attempt to make the fence closer in to their
property.
Mr. Currier asked about the posts, and if they are counted into
the overall height of the fence.
Mr. Falk said that they only count the main portion of the fence
panels, and not the decorative objects at the end of the panels.
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MOTION by Mr. Johnson to approve the variance on behalf of the
owner, as advertised. Mr. Johnson stated that the variance is
needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property,
given the special conditions of the property, particularly the
depression of land on the pool side; and the benefit sought by
the applicant cannot be achieved by some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance.
Mr. Johnson stated that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, as displayed for safety, and
considering the slope, and the construction of the fence, and in
fact, there’s evidence from the applicant that they’ve intended
to adhere to an existing property line, and the new fence is
actually closer away from the property line, and closer to their
home than the original fence.
Mr. Johnson stated that the request will not adversely affect
property values, notwithstanding a letter from a broker that
says it would, however, in evidence by the photographs, the
fence clearly has aesthetic value over the old dilapidated
fence.
Mr. Johnson said they do not believe it is contrary to the
public interest, and substantial justice is done. He said that
there have been letters of opposition due to sunlight, but the
Board doesn’t feel that has been substantiated, and it is a
reasonable means to achieve their intent.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
Mr. Reppucci said he didn’t read the two letters into the
record, but all five Board members have read them and considered
them.
Mr. Reppucci said that he liked when Mr. Johnson brought up the
ambiguity of the ordinance, and that the Board found it a little
bit ambiguous that it speaks to a six foot fence, and the Board
doesn’t feel that the ordinance is clear, and thinks that it’s
reasonable, therefore, it can fall within the spirit and intent
of the ordinance.
Mr. Johnson accepted Mr. Reppucci’s comments.
MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (Mr. Currier).
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2. Delta & Delta Realty Trust (Owner) Site Enhancement
Services (Applicant) 261-275 Daniel Webster Highway (Sheet
A Lot 321) requesting variance to exceed maximum wall sign
area, 81 square feet allowed, 183.4 square feet proposed.
GB Zone, Ward 7.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
Robert Shaw
J.P. Boucher
Donny Wirt, Site Enhancement Services, South Bend, IN, and Don
Szatela, District Manager of iParty, Hudson, NH. Mr. Wirt said
that it’s the current “iParty” site, which will become “Party
City”. He said the site is allowed 81 square feet of wall sign
area, and the proposed sign is 183 square feet in area. He
presented the Board some drawings.
Mr. Wirt said that the proposed sign is a 48-inch channel
letterset, it includes Party City and the trademark tagline
logo, “the Discount Party Superstore”. He described the
drawings to the Board. He also passed out a drawing showing how
the City calculates the allowable wall sign area, and said that
if they were allowed to remove the “dead” space, or white space,
on the sign, the proposed sign would only be 107.8 square feet,
significantly lower than the requested 183 square feet.
Mr. Currier asked if iParty is failing, and going out of
business.
Mr. Szatela stated that iParty has been around since 2000, and
the company is merging with Party City, with Party City being
the parent company.
Mr. Currier said that iParty has been successful for many years,
and stated that he was struggling with the extra wall sign area.
Mr. Szatela said that iParty at this location hasn’t been
profitable, hence the merger.
Mr. Currier asked if iParty has their own freestanding sign.
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Mr. Wirt said they have some tenant space, a small panel, on the
freestanding sign, it’s approximately 15” x 22”. He said it is
partially blocked by trees. He said the iParty store has a 44-
inch letterset, and Party City’s is only three inches taller,
but their name is longer, so that is where the increase is in
square footage.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Currier asked how the 81 square feet allowed calculation is
derived.
Mr. Falk said they are allowed 1.5 times their individual tenant
space. He said they have approximately 52 feet of frontage.
Mr. Currier asked if the other stores in the shopping center
meet the ordinance.
Mr. Falk said that Market Basket and Bed Bath & Beyond are both
beyond the size requirements, so they must have received
variances for their size.
Mr. Falk said that the 1.5 times the building frontage is only
up to a maximum of 150 square feet.
Mr. Shaw said they are using their space very efficiently, and
they are not putting up a sign that will look out of place.
MOTION by Mr. Shaw to grant the variance on behalf of the
applicant as advertised.
Mr. Shaw stated that the variance is needed to enable the
applicant’s proposed use of the property, as noted in the
discussion, and by the applicant, the relative size of the sign,
while being approximately twice the allowed sign, would be
consistent with the scale of the other signage in this plaza, as
well as the analysis given to the Board, which does highlight
the fact that most of the signs in the area, measured by the
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ordinance has a lot of white space and if that’s taken out, the
sign is much closer to the size allowed by the ordinance.
Mr. Shaw said that the case is within the spirit and intent of
the ordinance, it will not adversely affect the property values
of surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to the public
interest, if anything, the size and scale of the sign will help
to locate the store, and substantial justice is served
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (Mr. Currier)
3. Constantine G. Scrivanos Trust & NAS Realty Trust (Owners)
109 Daniel Webster Highway (Sheet A Lot 964) requesting
variance to allow a turn in a drive-through lane less than
40 feet from a pick-up window. HB Zone, Ward 7.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
Robert Shaw
J.P. Boucher
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier and Prolman, P.A. 20 Trafalgar
Square, Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier said that this is the Dunkin’
Donuts site on Daniel Webster Highway, next to the Cumberland
Farms. He said it’s been here for a considerable amount of
time, and what is being proposed is site renovation to help with
circulation around the building, as well as to better serve the
general public.
Atty. Prunier said in 2006, the new Land Use Code was adopted,
and there are new sections relative to drive-throughs, and it
states that if you have a drive-through window, you need 40 feet
from the middle of the pick-up window to the point where you
make your first turn in your vehicle. He said that the existing
window is on the southerly side of the building, and it
currently is not 40 feet away. He said that the proposal is to
have two windows, one will be relocated further up the drive-
through a couple feet, and the other one will be earlier in the
drive-through lane. He said that they feel that they have a
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hardship in that the building was built before the new code
section, as it exists, it doesn’t even have the 40 feet.
Mr. Reppucci asked how much further the window being moved.
Atty. Prunier said about 3-4 feet, both windows will be
separated, and overall, it won’t be a substantial difference to
what is there now, but the new window will help in having orders
processed quicker.
Mr. Falk said that staff has had a few meetings with the
applicant, and the intent is to improve circulation. He said
there will be a small patio in the front of the building, and
they’re changing some 90-degree parking spaces to be 45-degree
angled spaces, and with the additional window, it is to help
improve circulation and make the site more effective.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to grant the variance on behalf of the
applicant, as advertised. Mr. Currier stated that the variance
is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, which is essentially to go from one drive-up window to
two, the second window would be reconfigured about 3 feet closer
to the turn, and the applicants engineer believes it will result
in a better flow of the site overall, also with the angled
parking spaces, therefore, the case is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance.
Mr. Currier said there’s been no comments on it adversely
affecting property values, it is not contrary to the public
interest, actually, it will be better for traffic flow, and
substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
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MISCELLANEOUS:
REGIONAL IMPACT:
The Board did not see any cases of Regional Impact.
MINUTES:
July 9, 2013:
Mr. Currier said on Page 5, he asked to revise the minutes to
say that he recused from the case, and then left the meeting.
Mr. Falk said that Staff will make the change.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the minutes with the revision,
waive the reading, and place the minutes in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
July 23, 2013:
Mr. Johnson said on Page 4, there should be a change where it
says “Speaking in Opposition”. He said the header didn’t make
sense. It should say “no one”.
Mr. Falk said he’d make the appropriate changes.
MOTION by Mr. Johnson to approve the minutes with the revision,
waive the reading, and place the minutes in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Shaw.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Reppucci called the meeting closed at 8:40 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Johnson, Clerk.
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The following is to be published on ROP August 3, 2013, under
the Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format 65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of
Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday,
August 13, 2013, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall Auditorium,
3rd floor, 229 Main Street.
1. Douglas A. Pominville (Owner) 140 Manchester Street (Sheet
137 Lot 143) requesting variance to exceed maximum fence
height, 6 feet permitted, 9½ feet proposed. RA Zone, Ward
2.
2. Delta & Delta Realty Trust (Owner) Site Enhancement
Services (Applicant) 261-275 Daniel Webster Highway (Sheet
A Lot 321) requesting variance to exceed maximum wall sign
area, 81 square feet allowed, 183.4 square feet proposed.
GB Zone, Ward 7.
3. Constantine G. Scrivanos Trust & NAS Realty Trust (Owners)
109 Daniel Webster Highway (Sheet A Lot 964) requesting
variance to allow a turn in a drive-through lane less than
40 feet from a pick-up window. HB Zone, Ward 7.
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of
regional impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
"SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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