Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · September 23, 2014
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
September 23, 2014
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Gerry Reppucci, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Reppucci explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Reppucci explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Reppucci also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. Hunt Community & Area Agency Properties, Inc. (Owners) 10
Allds Street & 26 Allds Street (Sheet 16, Lots 16 & 34)
requesting special exception to work in the 75-foot prime
wetland and wetland buffer of Salmon Brook to construct a
water main crossing. RB Zone, Ward 7. [POSTPONED FROM 9-9-
14 MEETING]
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Jim Petropulos, Hayner, Swanson Inc, 3 Congress Street, Nashua,
NH. Mr. Petropulos said that they are representing Pennichuck
Water Works. He pointed out the subject area on the map, along
Allds Street, near the intersection of Fifield Street. He
stated that Salmon Brook is flowing south, through the stone
arch bridge at Allds Street, and proceeds further south. He
said that earlier this year, there was a water main break in
this area, and it took several days to repair it. He said that
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Pennichuck has fixed the break, but in doing so they detected a
section of water main through the bridge area that is rather old
and not in good shape, and it’s only a matter of time before it
further deteriorates. He said that the plan is to offset the
water main and get it off the street, away from the bridge
crossing, so the plan is to construct an offset water main that
goes around the bridge and reconnects back into Allds Street.
Mr. Petropulos said that there are steep slopes immediately
adjacent to Allds Street, the plan is to tap into the water
main, construct a traditional water main trench construction,
about 160 feet into the property. He said that they will have a
directional bore, a trenchless process, a drill bit will push
beneath the soil, underneath the wetland and the brook, about 6
feet below the surface, and it will come out to the other side
to a receiving pit, about 160 feet. He said it will go back and
forth with a reamer, until there is an 18-inch opening. He said
that then, there will be a high density polyethylene sleeve, for
the water main. He said it will not bother the wetland.
He said that on the west side, there is about 6,000 square feet
of buffer impacts, including a little access road, with a total
impact of about 8,200 square feet of buffer impact. He said
that tree clearing will be at a minimum.
Mr. Petropulos said that it’s their position that they meet all
the points of law and all of the special regulations and
conditions. He said that they’ll meet all of the Conservation
Commission stipulations of approval as well.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Barb Beierl, 5 Shetland Road, Nashua, NH. Ms. Beierl asked if
there is any heavy equipment that will be used on the project,
which might damage the soil around it.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR – REBUTTAL:
Mr. Petropoulos said it will be standard equipment, an
excavator, a dump truck, and the directional bore machine is
relatively small, it’s about the size of a minivan.
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SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS – REBUTTAL:
None.
MOTION Mr. Currier to approve the special exception on behalf of
the applicant as advertised.
Mr. Currier said that the use is listed in the Table of Uses,
Section 190-112. Mr. Currier stated that the use will not
create undue traffic congestion or unduly impair pedestrian
safety.
Mr. Currier said that the proposed use will not overload public
water, drainage or sewer or other municipal systems, actually,
the public water system should be made more robust than it is
now, as it’s weak in this area. Mr. Currier said that all
special regulations are fulfilled, the request was approved by
the Conservation Commission, when the work is all done, it will
look like it did before, and the Board finds that it will not
impair the integrity or be out of character with the
neighborhood, or be detrimental to the health, morals or welfare
of residents.
Mr. Currier said that attached to the Zoning Boards’ record is
the record of the Conservation Commission’s meeting minutes of
the September 16th meeting, with all seven stipulations of
approval attached.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
2. Brendan Quirk (Owner) Lowe’s Home Centers (Applicant) 22
Dudley Street (Sheet A Lot 154) requesting the following
variances: 1) to encroach 5 feet into both 6 foot required
side yard setbacks to construct a 24’x40’ deck around a
pool; and, 2) to exceed maximum accessory use area, 40%
permitted, 65% requested. RA Zone, Ward 7. [POSTPONED FROM
9-9-14 MEETING]
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
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J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Applicant not present at beginning of case, Mr. Reppucci moved
the case to the end of the Agenda.
3. DWA Hollis Properties, LLC (Owner) The Village at Mines
Falls Association (Applicant) 28 Hollow Ridge Drive (Sheet
E Lot 83) requesting special exception to amend a
previously approved cluster development to remove a
pedestrian walkway. R9 Zone, Ward 5.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Pat Marino, Treasurer, Village at Mines Falls, Nashua, NH. Mrs.
Marino said that they have an association with forty homes, and
there’s a walkway scheduled to be installed on the right side of
the property, behind about twenty houses. She said that in some
yards, the walkway is very close to homes, in some cases,
fifteen feet away. She said that privacy and security is very
important to the neighborhood.
Mrs. Marino said that it’s a very rugged walkway, in some areas,
it will be difficult to walk on, the association is concerned
with liability issues, as well as the upkeep of it. She said
that they all feel that it isn’t necessary, as the street does
have a sidewalk on it, so people can walk there. She said that
they are requesting that the plan be changed so that the walkway
isn’t put in.
Mrs. Marino said that there are numerous emails in the package
of people who live here who are in favor of removing the plans
for the walkway.
Mr. Currier said that there is a sidewalk, and remembered when
the plan was before the Board before. He said that there was a
concern about safety with the very narrow street, especially as
it curves right and goes uphill. He said the walkway was
initially presented as a benefit for the neighborhood, but also
for the walkable community on White Plains Drive. He said that
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the walkway was to allow increased walkability to the high
school, etc. He said he’s surprised that at this time, it’s
being asked to be retracted.
Mrs. Marino said that most all of the neighbors had no idea it
was being proposed when they purchased their home. She said
knew nothing about it when she bought her home. She said that
all the neighbors are concerned about it. She said it’s
extremely rugged, and it won’t be a comfortable path.
Mr. Reppucci said that the plan was from 2004, and asked how
long the houses have been there for.
Mrs. Marino said that the older ones have been there for about
four years. She said that she heard that they just can’t remove
the walkway without going to the Board for approval.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Richard Worob, 7 Hollow Ridge Drive, Nashua, NH. Mr. Worob
stated that he was the first person in the development to buy a
home from the Maddox Associates. He said that it was never
disclosed to him that a walkway would be put in at any time. He
said that his concerns have been stated, for security and
privacy. He said that there is a sidewalk. He said that his
house is the closest one to West Hollis Street, and there is a
limited amount of foot traffic on West Hollis Street, and the
auto traffic goes fast.
Mr. Reppucci asked if there are a lot of walkers on the sidewalk
in front.
Mr. Worob said no, there is very limited foot traffic on West
Hollis Street, and it’s dangerous to walk there.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
None.
Mr. Reppucci said that none of the homeowners want it, and it
should have been incorporated at the beginning of the project so
that the people would have known about it.
Mr. Currier said that there’s a note on the plan stating that
the walking trail will be completed before the last twenty
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houses are constructed. He said the development has been slow
in the making, as there are about twenty homes there now, and
its taken ten years. He said it’s a different story tonight as
compared to when the plans were here in 2004, the testimony
tonight supports the walkway, because West Hollis Street is not
walk friendly, so the only options you have is to go further
west on Hollis Street, or around 111A. He said that this was
supposed to be like a community connection, a walkable
connection to allow the neighborhood to walk through to the high
school area, to the walking trails. He said it was presented as
a beautiful walkway, up on the hill, and it was a real reason to
approve the cluster development. He said that it’s essentially
a sidewalk on the other side of the houses.
Mr. Johnson said he struggled to find out where the walkway
would be. He said that there is some treacherous ground
navigating and wouldn’t want it right up against the back of his
house. He said that he agrees with the Chairman, and it’s
common sense to remedy this, and to support the special
exception.
Mr. Boucher said he’s in favor of removing the walkway. He said
even with the narrower private street, the testimony of the
people who live here won’t use it. He said that he’s in support
of removing it.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the special exception on behalf
of the applicant, as advertised. He stated that it is listed in
the Table of Uses, the walkway was a special condition approved
by the Zoning Board in 2004. He said the motion is to amend
that approval, and change it from requiring the walkway, to
requiring no walkway.
Mr. Reppucci said that the request will not create undue traffic
congestion, or unduly impair pedestrian safety, testimony from
the applicant is that it is not a safe place where they’re
looking to put it, and it would be more unsafe than walking on
the main road.
Mr. Reppucci said that the use will not overload public water,
drainage or sewer or other municipal systems, special
regulations are fulfilled, and it will not impair the integrity
or be out of character with the neighborhood or be detrimental
to the health, morals or welfare of residents, actually, the
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testimony is that the walkway would be detrimental to their way
of life.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED 3-1. (Mr. Currier)
4. City of Nashua (Owner) Marshall Signs, Inc. (Applicant) 117
Elm Street (Sheet 98 Lot 43) requesting the following
variances: 1) to exceed maximum ground identification sign
area, 12 sq.ft allowed, 52.6 sq.ft proposed; 2) to exceed
maximum ground identification sign height, 6 feet allowed –
12 feet proposed; and, 3) to allow for manually changeable
copy. RC Zone, Ward 4.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Carl Marshall, Marshall Signs, 51 Lowell Street, Nashua, NH.
Mr. Marshall passed out some additional pictures of other school
signs. Mr. Marshall that the sign encompasses the Keefe
Auditorium and the Elm Street Middle School, and has a
changeable message board.
Mr. Marshall went over all the points of law in the application.
He said that the sign will be 52.6 square feet in area, it will
be twelve feet tall, and will have the changeable copy. He said
that the public will be adequately served in having the sign
with the manually changeable copy. He said the sign will not be
cluttered, and will not impair anyone’s traffic views. He said
the sign will enhance the overall area, and messages on the sign
will be valuable to parents of the school children.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
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Mr. Currier said that the sign will not be a problem to the
abutters, there is a lot of activity at the school, and is
supportive of the sign.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to approve the variance on behalf of the
applicant as advertised, all requests taken collectively. Mr.
Boucher stated that the variances are needed to enable the
applicant’s proposed use of the property, given the special
conditions of the property, and the benefit sought by the
applicant cannot be achieved by some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance.
Mr. Boucher said that he didn’t believe the request will
adversely affect the property values of surrounding parcels, it
is not contrary to the public interest, and substantial justice
is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
5. Douglas A. Pominville (Owner) 140 Manchester Street (Sheet
137 Lot 143) requesting variance to encroach 7’-6” into the
25 foot front yard setback (on Manchester Street) to
construct an attached wrap-around porch on house. RA Zone,
Ward 2.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Stacy Pominville, 140 Manchester Street, Nashua, NH. Mrs.
Pominville stated that they’re seeking a variance to encroach a
maximum of 7’-6” to construct a wrap-around porch. She said
that they have a corner lot, so there are two front yard
setbacks that require a 25 foot setback. She said that they
showed on the map where the porch would go, and it only
encroaches on one corner. She said that it won’t be contrary to
the public interest, it’s in with the character of the home,
it’s a conservative looking porch and matches with the character
of the home, and will be in alignment with the quality homes in
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the area. She said that the encroachment doesn’t bring the
house any closer to the neighbor’s house, so it won’t impact
anyone else’s privacy, and the neighbor is fine with the
request.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to approve the variance on behalf of the
owner as advertised. Mr. Boucher stated that the variance will
allow the applicants proposed use of the property, given the
special conditions of the property, as noted, the house is
oriented at a diagonal, and it has two front yard setbacks and
the encroachment is facing Manchester Street, and not facing any
of the abutters. He said that the benefit sought by the
applicant cannot be achieved by some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance.
Mr. Boucher said it’s within the spirit and intent of the
ordinance, there’s no testimony that property values will be
negatively impacted, it is not contrary to the public interest,
and substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
6. Maurice B. & Mary J. Laliberte (Owners) 104 Burke Street
(Sheet 13 Lot 304) requesting variance to encroach 5 feet
into the 7 foot required right side yard setback to
construct an attached 14’x20’ carport. RB Zone, Ward 7.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
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Maurice Laliberte, 104 Burke Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Laliberte
stated that they’re requesting a variance for a carport to cover
a handicap lift. He referred the Board to the pictures in the
package. He said that the lot is somewhat pie-shaped; it’s not
a square or rectangle. He said the carport would encroach on
the 7-foot side yard setback. He showed from the pictures that
there is a chalk line indicating where the carport would be
located. He said that they don’t own a car; they just want the
carport to cover the handicap lift for his wife. He said that
the neighbors were fine with the request.
Mr. Reppucci said that there is a provision in the State RSA’s
that allows the Zoning Board to grant a variance if there is a
hardship from a disability, and the burden on the applicant is
much easier, as hardship doesn’t need to be shown to the Board
if there is a disability. The law also gives the Board the
ability to limit the approval. He asked if the carport would be
permanent.
Mr. Laliberte said it would, as it will be attached to the
house.
Mr. Currier asked what the carport will look like.
Mr. Laliberte said the footings will be on sonar tubes, it will
be roofed, and attached to the house, 2½ feet into the main
portion of the house, and it will taper down like a shed roof.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Currier asked if there is a definition of a carport in the
Code.
Mr. Falk said that there isn’t one, but it’s generally a roof,
not walled in, no garage door, for the purpose of parking a
motor vehicle under it, and light and air can pass through it.
Mr. Boucher said that it’s his assumption that it won’t be
walled in, and no door.
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Mr. Laliberte said there will be a roof on it, and there will be
a ¾ wall on the side where the chair lift would be, that would
be the only wall.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the variance on behalf of the
owner as advertised. Mr. Currier stated that the carport will
have a connection to the house, and the wall that has the
handicap provision would be a ¾ wall, and the other sides would
be open. He said that the five criteria are met, and it’s
needed to allow the applicants proposed use of the property,
which is to provide some weather protection for the handicapped
access.
Mr. Currier said it’s within the spirit and intent of the
ordinance, there’s no testimony that property values will be
negatively impacted, it is not contrary to the public interest,
and substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
7. Brian J. & Joan L. Smith (Owners) Erickson Construction
Co., Inc. (Applicant) 16 Cliff Road (Sheet B Lot 1821)
requesting variance to encroach up to 15 feet into the 30
foot required rear yard setback to construct a 19’x23’
sunroom and deck. R9 Zone, Ward 9.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Matt Erickson, Erickson Construction, Hudson, NH. Mr. Erickson
said that the request is to replace the existing deck with a new
deck and sunroom, which would encroach up to 15 feet into the 30
foot rear yard setback. He showed the Board some pictures of
the house and yard area. He also showed the Board a plot plan
showing the layout of the deck and sunroom. He said at the
closest point, the deck would be 15 feet from the property line.
He said on the GIS print, he highlighted the Smith’s home in
yellow, to see where and how it sits on the lot. He said the
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deck would be pressure treated with composite decking.
Mr. Currier said that he appreciated the pictures, and gave him
a good idea of the potential impacts to the neighbors.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the deck is more than four feet high.
Mr. Erickson said the new deck will be one step down from the
sunroom. He said it will be more than four feet off the ground.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Brian Smith, 16 Cliff Road, Nashua, NH. Mr. Smith said that
they don’t need the big, existing deck, and believe that the
sunroom will be of more value.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to approve the variance on behalf of the
applicant as advertised. Mr. Boucher stated that the variance
is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, given the special conditions of the property, the
property is located on a steep slope, and the benefit sought by
the applicant cannot be achieved by some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance.
Mr. Boucher said that the spirit and intent of the ordinance is
being met, he didn’t believe the request will adversely affect
the property values of surrounding parcels, it is not contrary
to the public interest, and substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
8. MacThompson Realty, Inc. (Owner) 3 Marmon Drive (Sheet A
Lot 349) requesting variance to exceed maximum wall sign
area, 150 sq.ft allowed - 182 sq.ft permitted from May 27,
2008 variance - 278.5 sq.ft proposed. HB Zone, Ward 7.
Voting on this case:
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Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier & Prolman, P.A., 20 Trafalgar
Square, Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier said that he objects to
moving forward without a full Board. Atty. Prunier stated that
a few years ago, it was a new, three-story building, and a
variance was granted for the number of signs. He said that the
whole building fascia has changed, at the request of General
Motors. He said that they were also required to change the
tiles and the colors of the building inside to comply with the
new requirements of General Motors. He said something similar
happened across the street with Toyota, and they had to tear
down two buildings and build a new one.
Atty. Prunier said that sometimes General Motors will pay for
portions of the updated work. He said that the current request
is that they have these new signs, that are somewhat larger. He
said that the building is about 200 feet long, by 46 feet high,
three stories. He said the signs requested only covers 3% of
the front side of the building. He said that the request is
within the spirit of the ordinance, he said it’s a problem for
these larger buildings, but to comply with the wall sign size,
in view of the size of the building, is out of order.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the Board doesn’t approve the request, and
they’re required to stay within the present signage that’s
allowed, if it would impact the situation that the Thompson
Group has with GM.
Atty. Prunier said yes, if they’re not in compliance with GM, it
could hurt their allocation of cars.
Mr. Reppucci said that basically, General Motors is saying to
the City of Nashua, that you have to do this.
Atty. Prunier said that they were required to take off all of
the fascia, on a new building, to comply with them as well. He
said that the dealership can get penalized by not complying. He
said that the ordinance doesn’t take into consideration the size
of the building. He said that the proposed signs don’t look out
of character.
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Mr. Johnson asked about the specific requirement that General
Motors has with the sign, whether it’s size, height, percentage.
Atty. Prunier said the size of signs, it’s attached to the
letter he submitted from General Motors.
Mr. Johnson asked about the design standards.
Atty. Prunier said that you see this all over with car
dealership signs, they all have to comply. He said that based
upon the size of the building, it’s reasonable to ask.
Mr. Johnson asked if there is an appeal process, and if it was
followed.
Atty. Prunier said that the appeal process is to do it, there is
no appeal process. He said that for Toyota, they had two nice
buildings, and had to tear them down, and put up a very large
new building. He said that the parent companies have a lot of
power, and the franchisees have been fighting in the
legislature.
Mr. Currier said that he noticed that the electronic changing
message ground sign out by Daniel Webster Highway is out of
compliance. He asked what the request specifically asked for.
Mr. Reppucci said it’s the one that got hit by lightning, and
had to be replaced.
Mr. Reppucci said that in light of the requirement to try to
comply with the corporate wishes, he said that there are far
more conservative communities than Nashua, as far as signage is
concerned. He asked that if a community doesn’t comply with
what GM wants, do they still punish the franchisee, even though
they’ve made every effort to come into compliance.
Atty. Prunier said yes.
Mr. Falk read the legal advertisement from 2008 relative to the
electronic message ground sign. He said that there are several
pages of testimony, and read the last paragraph of the Motion.
Mr. Falk said that if the sign is in fact out of compliance, it
is a separate issue on a separate property, and not before the
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Board tonight, the only item for the Boards consideration is the
wall signs on the building.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Reppucci said he is bothered by the electronic message sign.
He said he defended the concept that they would respect the
rules, and the sign consistently has graphics on it.
Mr. Johnson agreed that the EMC sign is not before the Board.
He said he doesn’t see where there’s been a case made that this
is an absolute requirement. He asked what the design specs are,
and what are they not compliant with. He said he didn’t think a
case has been made to grant another variance. He said it’s been
fine the way it was.
Mr. Reppucci said that financial impact on the applicant should
not be relevant to this case. He said what is relevant is the
aesthetics and whether or not it complies with the ordinances in
the City.
Mr. Currier agreed with what Mr. Johnson said, in that the
letter from GM is soft evidence, it’s not an official document,
signed, release dated, that says that these are the
requirements, and beyond that, saying if these aren’t met, these
appropriations will happen. He said he’s struggling with the
written testimony. He said that the Board is told that every
case is unique, and every once in a while, there is a precedent-
setting thing. He said that all corporate offices could then be
coming to the Board, saying they need extra signage.
Mr. Reppucci said he accepts the testimony from Atty. Prunier as
being fine, and doesn’t question it at all.
Mr. Boucher said that at this point, he would be in favor of the
application. He said that he’s looking at the request just on
face value, what they are asking for. He said all the signs are
on the fascia, it’s not on the sides, and with the scale of the
building and what they’re asking for, it’s reasonable. He said
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that the signs are in scale with the building, and said he’d
find it difficult not to approve it, it’s a three story
building, a large building, and it’s just signage on the
building, and it won’t overpower the building by any means.
Mr. Johnson said he wants to know what the design standards are.
He said he cannot believe that a franchise, a major one, would
be that dictatorial, even if someone is trying to work with
municipalities. He said he’s not in favor of the request as it
stands right now.
Mr. Currier said that there is a blatant noncompliance with the
electronic changeable copy sign, he said he’d be in favor of
tabling this request until the noncompliance is fixed. He said
he’s also not comfortable with the evidence of why we need to
bend our rules. He said he’d like to see the compliance, and
what other evidence there is that they need these signs.
Mr. Johnson said the letter signed by the zone manager agreeing
that they have to have new signs is insufficient in this case,
and is not in favor of the request.
Mr. Currier agreed, he said the Board has soft evidence.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to Table the request to the October 13,
2014 meeting, and hear the case in its entirety.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED 3-1 (Mr. Boucher)
Mr. Johnson said he wants to know the specific design
requirements for sign specifications and the appeal process, if
they cannot comply, what is the process for the dealership and
the franchisee, and what are the consequences if it’s not
complied.
Mr. Reppucci said that Atty. Prunier understands what is being
asked for.
Mr. Falk said he thought the meeting date was the 13th, but just
to make sure, the date should be the first meeting in October.
Mr. Reppucci said it is tabled to the first scheduled meeting in
October.
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September 23, 2014
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9. CPC Investments, LLC (Owner) 37 Gilson Road (Sheet D Lot
28) requesting the following: 1) variance for minimum lot
area, 40,000 sq.ft required for a proposed lot to be
serviced by an individual sewage disposal system - 28,837
sq.ft proposed; and, 2) special exception to maintain an
accessory (in-law) dwelling unit on second floor of
existing house – both requests proposed in order to
subdivide one lot into two lots. R9 & R30 Zones, Ward 5.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Mr. Reppucci asked to clarify what will happen in order for the
variance to be approved.
Mr. Falk said that if the Board supports the request for
variance this evening, it will have to go to the Planning Board
for subdivision approval, the variance is to allow less than
40,000 square feet for a lot serviced by its own sewage disposal
system.
Bob Cormier, Cuoco & Cormier Engineering Associates, 74
Northeastern Boulevard, Nashua, NH. Mr. Cormier stated that the
lot is 68,837 square foot lot, and the applicant wishes to keep
the 40,000 square foot lot on the left hand lot with the
existing home, and the second lot would be 28,837 square feet.
He said that the City requires lots to have a minimum of 40,000
square feet with a septic system. He said that the request is
approved by the State of New Hampshire already, the test pits
are fine.
Mr. Cormier said that the in-law apartment is in the existing
house on the second floor, it has been there for quite some
time, and the plan is to re-establish it as a viable unit. He
said it is 700 square feet in size.
Mr. Cormier went over all the relevant points of law for both
the variance and the special exception.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the in-law apartment is in compliance with
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September 23, 2014
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all the pertinent regulations.
Mr. Cormier said he believes it is. He said the house looks
like a single-family home, the entrance to the in-law is in the
back.
Mr. Reppucci asked the applicant if he is certain that it
complies with in-law requirements, like the square footage and
usable space.
Mr. Cormier said he believes the size is fine.
Mr. Currier asked about the subdivision approval by the NH DES,
and what it’s about.
Mr. Cormier said that in order to go to the Planning Board, you
have to certify that the site meets the provisions for a septic
system, essentially, test pits need to be done, and the State
will certify if the lot will be able to be subdivided to sustain
a septic system.
Mr. Currier asked if it’s well or City water.
Mr. Cormier said it’s City water.
Mr. Currier asked why there is a requirement for the 40,000
square foot lot for septic, and why the 28,837 square foot lot
could work.
Mr. Cormier said the septic will be fine, as the State certifies
it, it’s an adequate sized lot. He said the 40,000 square foot
lot helps in having it be a more rural look. He said that there
are many homes right nearby that do not meet that requirement,
and it’s worked out fine with the smaller lots. He said that
the proposed lot is more than adequate for a septic system, and
the State has certified it.
Mr. Currier asked if there is any record of an in-law apartment
at this location.
Mr. Cormier said it has been used that way, it has a separate
kitchen facility on the second floor, and it has its own egress.
He said that the owner wants it for marketability, and to
continue the past use.
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September 23, 2014
Page 19
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the variance request on behalf
of the applicant, as advertised. Mr. Reppucci stated that the
variance is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, given the special conditions of the property, and the
benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some other
method reasonably feasible for the applicant to pursue, other
than an area variance.
Mr. Reppucci said that the spirit and intent of the ordinance is
being met, he stated that it will not adversely affect the
property values of surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to
the public interest, and substantial justice is served, there
was testimony from the professional engineer that the system
would work in the requested square footage, and the septic
design was approved by the State of NH.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the special exception on behalf
of the applicant, as advertised. Mr. Reppucci stated that it is
listed in the Table of Uses, Section 190-32.
Mr. Reppucci said that the request will not create undue traffic
congestion, or unduly impair pedestrian safety, there was no
testimony one way or another.
Mr. Reppucci said that the use will not overload public water,
drainage or sewer or other municipal systems, in fact, it’s a
private septic, special regulations are fulfilled, the applicant
stated that all special requirements of an in-law apartment
would be met, and it will not impair the integrity or be out of
character with the neighborhood or be detrimental to the health,
morals or welfare of residents.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
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September 23, 2014
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MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
10. Carvalho Family Realty Trust (Owner) 119 East Hollis Street
(Sheet 24 Lot 25) requesting special exception to expand a
non-conforming use by re-building and expanding existing
building by 30%. GI Zone, Ward 7.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Attorney Gerald Prunier, Prunier & Prolman P.A., 20 Trafalgar
Square, Nashua, NH. Atty. Prunier said that he’s objecting to
proceeding with four members, but will proceed forward. He said
that the present building, which used to be an old gasoline
station, would be increased in size by about 30%. He said that
the purpose in doing so would be to make it more efficient in
the operation of the business. He said that the use stays the
same, the site stays the same, nothing changes on the site. He
said that it is a legal nonconforming use, under Section 190-119
A.
Atty. Prunier said the overall Dunkin’ Donuts operation is
staying the same, and the new building will improve the
neighborhood in this particular area. He said that it complies
with all other sections of the code for a special exception,
there will not be any added pedestrian safety issues, or any
other traffic problems, it has all public utilities, and the
character of the neighborhood stays the same.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Richard Maynard, Maynard & Paquette Engineering Associates, 23
E. Pearl Street, Nashua NH. Mr. Maynard said that the drive-
through will remain unchanged from today, there’s also no change
to the parking or the traffic, it’s just an efficiency
enhancement to the building. He said the pickup window will be
the same. He said that the building is chopped up badly inside.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Mr. Reppucci said that there is a letter from Attorney Leonard,
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dated September 23, 2014, and he read the letter into the
record.
MOTION Mr. Currier to approve the special exception on behalf of
the applicant as advertised.
Mr. Currier said that the use is listed in the Table of Uses,
Section 190-119 (A). Mr. Currier stated that the use will not
create undue traffic congestion or unduly impair pedestrian
safety.
Mr. Currier said that the proposed use will not overload public
water, drainage or sewer or other municipal systems. He said
that per testimony, the special regulations have been fulfilled,
and the Board finds that it will not impair the integrity or be
out of character with the neighborhood, he said it’s a GI
neighborhood, but has a little commercial zone, and it won’t
look any different, the building will be slightly larger, and
it’s the testimony that the western access border will not be
impacted.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
11. Alexander Maynard Rev. Tr, (Owner) 13 Kathy Drive (Sheet B
Lot 997) requesting special exception to construct a single
family home on a lot of record in the 75-foot prime wetland
buffer of Salmon Brook. R9 Zone, Ward 9. [ON REMAND]
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
J.P. Boucher
Mr. Reppucci described the history of this case. He said that
there was a stipulated agreement, in which the case it was
approved by Superior Court Judge Temple, it is a remand from the
Court. He said he has a letter from Alderman Donchess, who was
opposed to the application, makes reference to this being a
Fisher v. Dover case. He said that in the Fisher v. Dover case,
someone can’t keep coming back to the Board for the same thing,
there has to be a significant change in the application. He
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September 23, 2014
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said that this case is not that, it’s not a situation where we
have to make a decision whether or not to rehear this. He said
that the Superior Court is telling this Board to rehear it, it’s
remanded back to us, and the Fisher v. Dover determination does
not apply in any way, the Court is telling us to rehear the
case.
Mr. Johnson concurred, it is not a Fisher v. Dover issue, as the
circumstances have changed per the Judge’s order.
Mr. Currier concurred, it’s not a Fisher v. Dover issue. He
said in some remands, there are specific instructions, but this
is somewhat different, in that the Judge didn’t get any details
on this, both parties went to the Judge and said that we have a
“plan B” that addresses the issue, and we’re asking the Judge to
remand it to not go to the Court system.
Mr. Reppucci read the remand statement from the Court, and the
Board agreed to go forward with the case.
Attorney Andrew Prolman, Prunier & Prolman, P.A., 20 Trafalgar
Square, Nashua, NH. Atty. Prolman said that he object to moving
forward without a full Board, but will do so. He said that he
agreed with everything said by the Board members about the
remand, and how we got here today.
Atty. Prolman said that in looking at the certified record from
the City, it appears as if there’s a discrepancy in the plan
that the City had versus what Mr. Maynard spoke to back in
January, there were two different plans, and Attorney Bennett
and myself thought that alone would be enough to remand the
case. He said that the 15 Kathy Drive plan, at the January 28th
2014 hearing, there was a lot of presentation about the two lots
taken together, and it was determined that there was sufficient
room to grant the special exception for 15 Kathy Drive, but the
Board was concerned about the 7 feet or so being presented on
the back of 13 Kathy Drive, and in the letter of denial, spoke
to certain points of the special exception point number 5, and
point number 9 of the wetland special conditions. He said that
the revised plan has been sent out, and in shifting the house
over a few feet westerly, and by reducing the foundation, it
serves to capture a larger back yard, which addresses the Boards
concerns. He said that he wanted to incorporate for the record
that the Conservation Commission approval, the approval from the
State, all of that stays the same, and the house is now moved
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September 23, 2014
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further away from the wetland.
Mr. Reppucci said that 15 Kathy Drive, which was approved by
this Board, had a 12’-6” distance from the wetland. He said
that the original proposal was about 7 feet from the wetland
buffer, and the proposal tonight is exactly the same as the 13
Kathy Drive.
Atty. Prolman agreed.
Richard Maynard, Maynard & Paquette, 23 East Pearl Street,
Nashua, NH. Mr. Maynard said that they’ve adjusted the size of
the foundation so that in the back, they have a full 12’-6” in
the back, just like 15 Kathy Drive. He said that the foundation
is smaller, and the house is shifted over to the left of the
lot. He read over the application with the points of law for a
special exception. He said that the house will be provided with
a leaching catch basin to handle runoff from the house, and it
addresses the concern about groundwater recharge taken up by the
house itself. He said that the City has installed two drain
lines to Salmon Brook to handle street runoff from Searles Road
and Kathy Drive. He said that the house is oriented to the front
of the lot to minimize the wetlands.
Mr. Maynard said that grading and drainage has been directed
away from the wetlands towards the street, where it can receive
some treatment. He said the house is located the same distance
away from the wetlands as 15 Kathy Drive. He said the house
received approval from the Conservation Commission, which is an
expert agency. He said that the house has been located in the
best possible location on the lot. He said that there will be
no wetlands loss or degradation. He said that all of the
asphalt and debris will be removed from the lot, and invasive
species, as best as possible, will be eliminated. He went over
the remaining special conditions, and all are met and will be
satisfied.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
None.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Rebecca Diorio, 11 Kathy Drive, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Diorio said
that their sump pump runs continuously, there is constant water,
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September 23, 2014
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and this past spring, the water got to 7 feet from the back
door. She said that there’s just one drain that is constantly
overflowing. She said she fears for the people who would reside
at 13 and 15 Kathy Drive when they start seeing we’ve been
seeing the past years. She said they now have to get a whole-
house generator because if the sump pump is off for one hour,
there is six inches of water in the cellar. She said they never
have to water their lawn because the water table is so high.
Mr. Currier asked about the height of her basement compared to
the new basements.
Sandra Abbott, 75 Searles Road, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Abbott said
that she can’t believe that anyone would think to build on this
lot.
Barbara Beierl, 5 Shetland Road, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Beierl said
she opposes the proposed development, it is wetlands property,
and needs to be kept that way, not to be used for private
development.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR – REBUTTAL:
Mr. Currier asked to clarify the plan the Board had the last
time. He said that there’s a line 50 feet away from the
Shoreland Protection Act, and the corner of 14 Kathy Drive was
right on the edge of that. He said the plan tonight, the line
isn’t demarcated, but wanted to know if the foundation cuts into
that. He asked if the proposed house is within that 50-foot,
and if it is, does it matter, or is it permissible.
Mr. Maynard said that the old plan, it had the 7.7 feet, and by
shifting the house over and making the foundation smaller, it’s
now 12.6 feet.
Mr. Currier said that the plan the Board voted on in January is
different from the one we have tonight.
Mr. Maynard said that whatever plan was in the packet was not
the plan that he put on the wall, and somehow, there were two
different plans. He said that there was some kind of confusion
as to what plan the Board had, it wasn’t the same one as what
was on the wall. He said that this is one of the prime reasons
why the request was remanded back to the Board.
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September 23, 2014
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Mr. Maynard said that the second reason is that the foundation
was made smaller. He said that the 50-foot line, in the
Shoreline Protection Act, there are three lines to consider, the
50-foot is the most important one, it requires that there be a
minimizing of cutting, you can cut up to 50% of the basal area.
He said that the next line is the 250-foot line, which has
similar lines of tree cutting. He said that there is a 1,000-
foot line, which is a jurisdictional line, and there are no
special rules, but they will look at it to see if there’s
anything that is negatively impacting the wetlands.
Mr. Currier said that the plan before the Board tonight doesn’t
have that 50-foot Shoreland Protection line.
Mr. Maynard said that the line is there, and it will meet their
criteria.
Mr. Maynard pointed out 11 Kathy Drive, and pointed out a major
drainage line put in by the City. He said that whatever happens
to this property will not be affected by their property, theirs
was built in the 1960’s or early 1970’s, it’s old pipe
construction, and it’s not built to today’s standards. He said
that their lot is several feet lower in elevation.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS – REBUTTAL:
Mrs. Beierl stated that she is surprised that the engineer can
expect the Board to do anything with this construction, without
having actually received the correct diagram it’s packet. She
said if she were a Board member, she’d ask to table it.
Mr. Reppucci said that the Board has the correct plan now. He
said that Mr. Maynard referred to the previous hearing, where
there was a discrepancy between the plans.
Mr. Johnson said that when you look at the new proposal, and
listen to the testimony, with the new house location, you have
14 feet from that side, with that, it’s a wet area, for what
they’re trying to do, and what is being proposed in this
package, and the positioning of this house, it’s a far better
job with complying with the intent and spirit of the ordinance,
so given the modification, is in support of the application.
Mr. Reppucci said that appeals don’t just go for perpetuity. He
said that the way a determination can be made for an appeal, is
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that if there is a change in the aggrieved party, that is the
standard. He said initially, the Board heard the case, it was
denied, it’s appealed, and we deny the appeal, you can’t keep
appealing to this. He said that in this case, if we now approve
this application, even though it was first heard by us,
reconsidered by us and remanded by the Court, if we approve this
case tonight, the recourse is not to go to Court, the recourse
is to come back to the Board, because there is a different
aggrieved party now, it has changed sides, so the way to appeal
this is to appeal back to the Zoning Board, and it needs to be
done within 30 days.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the special exception on behalf
of the owner. Mr. Reppucci stated that the request is listed in
the Table of Uses, Section 190-112.
Mr. Reppucci said that the request will not create undue traffic
congestion, or unduly impair pedestrian safety, it will not
overload public water, drainage, or sewer or other municipal
systems. He said that the special regulations are all fulfilled.
Mr. Reppucci said that the request will not impair the integrity
or be out of character with the neighborhood, or be detrimental
to the health, morals or welfare of residents. He said that all
of the testimony in the previous hearings on this were
considered by this Board tonight, and are part of this record,
and all the minutes of the Conservation Commission meetings, and
all the documentation from the previous meetings are included in
this case. He said that all the special wetland conditions will
all be complied with as well, as highlighted in the last
meeting, including all the DES materials.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
Mr. Reppucci brought up the case for 22 Dudley Street, and the
applicant is still not present. He said that this case was
tabled from the 9-9-14 meeting. He said that they’ll give them
the benefit of the doubt and table it one more time.
The other Board members agreed, and Mr. Johnson’s drive-by
confirmed that no new work had been done.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to table Case #2, for 22 Dudley Street, to
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the next meeting in October.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REHEARING REQUESTS:
None.
REGIONAL IMPACT:
No Agenda yet, there is an extra week in the schedule, and Mr.
Falk will email the agenda when it’s ready.
MINUTES:
August 26, 2014:
Mr. Johnson had some revisions about a date and other language
near page 10.
Mr. Falk said he’d take a look and make any necessary changes.
No further action taken.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Reppucci called the meeting closed at 10:07 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Johnson, Clerk.
CF - Taped Hearing
Agenda
Community Development 589-3095
City of Nashua Planning and Zoning
Building Safety
589-3090
589-3080
Code Enforcement 589-3100
Community Development Division
Urban Programs 589-3085
Economic Development 589-3070
Conservation Commission 589-3105
City Hall, 229 Main Street, PO Box 2019 FAX 589-3119
Nashua, New Hampshire 03061-2019 www.gonashua.com
September 9, 2014
The following is to be published on ROP September 13, 2014, under
the Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format 65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of Nashua
Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday, September 23,
2014, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall Auditorium, 3rd floor, 229
Main Street.
1. DWA Hollis Properties, LLC (Owner) The Village at Mines Falls
Association (Applicant) 28 Hollow Ridge Drive (Sheet E Lot 83)
requesting special exception to amend a previously approved
cluster development to remove a pedestrian walkway. R9 Zone,
Ward 5.
2. City of Nashua (Owner) Marshall Signs, Inc. (Applicant) 117
Elm Street (Sheet 98 Lot 43) requesting the following
variances: 1) to exceed maximum ground identification sign
area, 12 sq.ft allowed, 52.6 sq.ft proposed; 2) to exceed
maximum ground identification sign height, 6 feet allowed – 12
feet proposed; and, 3) to allow for manually changeable copy.
RC Zone, Ward 4.
3. Douglas A. Pominville (Owner) 140 Manchester Street (Sheet 137
Lot 143) requesting variance to encroach 7’-6” into the 25
foot front yard setback (on Manchester Street) to construct an
attached wrap-around porch on house. RA Zone, Ward 2.
4. Maurice B. & Mary J. Laliberte (Owners) 104 Burke Street
(Sheet 13 Lot 304) requesting variance to encroach 5 feet into
the 7 foot required right side yard setback to construct an
attached 14’x20’ carport. RB Zone, Ward 7.
5. Brian J. & Joan L. Smith (Owners) Erickson Construction Co.,
Inc. (Applicant) 16 Cliff Road (Sheet B Lot 1821) requesting
variance to encroach up to 15 feet into the 30 foot required
rear yard setback to construct a 19’x23’ sunroom and deck. R9
Zone, Ward 9.
6. MacThompson Realty, Inc. (Owner) 3 Marmon Drive (Sheet A Lot
349) requesting variance to exceed maximum wall sign area, 150
sq.ft allowed - 182 sq.ft permitted from May 27, 2008 variance
- 278.5 sq.ft proposed. HB Zone, Ward 7.
7. CPC Investments, LLC (Owner) 37 Gilson Road (Sheet D Lot 28)
requesting the following: 1) variance for minimum lot area,
40,000 sq.ft required for a proposed lot to be serviced by an
individual sewage disposal system - 28,837 sq.ft proposed;
and, 2) special exception to maintain an accessory (in-law)
dwelling unit on second floor of existing house – both
requests proposed in order to subdivide one lot into two lots.
R9 & R30 Zones, Ward 5.
8. Carvalho Family Realty Trust (Owner) 119 East Hollis Street
(Sheet 24 Lot 25) requesting special exception to expand a
non-conforming use by re-building and expanding existing
building by 30%. GI Zone, Ward 7.
9. Alexander Maynard Rev. Tr, (Owner) 13 Kathy Drive (Sheet B Lot
997) requesting special exception to construct a single family
home on a lot of record in the 75-foot prime wetland buffer of
Salmon Brook. R9 Zone, Ward 9. [ON REMAND]
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of regional
impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
"SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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