Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · February 10, 2015
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ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
February 10, 2015
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Gerry Reppucci, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Gerry Reppucci
Rob Shaw
Jack Currier
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Kathy Vitale
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Reppucci explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Reppucci explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Reppucci also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. Alison T. Slater (Owner) Russell Slater (Applicant) 15
Colonial Avenue (Sheet D Lot 497) requesting variance for
lot width, 105 feet required – 50 feet proposed, to
subdivide one lot into two lots. R30 Zone, Ward 5.
[TABLED FROM 12-9-14 MEETING, AND CONTINUED FROM 1-27-15
CANCELLED MEETING].
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Rob Shaw
Jack Currier
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Mr. Reppucci said that the last time this case was heard in
January, the Board was made aware of the Fisher v. Dover issue,
and it is a matter of law. He said that the Board has already
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heard the case, and this will be a public meeting, not a public
hearing.
Mr. Reppucci said that where he stands is the same place as
before. He said that in his view, the application is so
similar, especially to this piece of property. He said that he
realizes that there are differences in the application from
2003, and finds this present application more intensive than the
previous one, and the dimensions on the property are virtually
the same, and is of the mind that there is not a substantial
difference.
Mr. Currier said that he is at the same position as the last
time. He said that he’s looking at the totality of the
application, and stated that he thought it is substantially
different. He said that the fact that there was a “T” and a
hammerhead, and now there is a cul-de-sac there, he said that he
feels that it is substantially different.
Mr. Boucher said he tends to agree with Mr. Currier’s point. He
said that there is a difference in the T versus the cul-de-sac
is a material change in the design of the properties, and
believes it’s enough of a material change to hear the
application.
Mr. Shaw said he believes it’s the same application, and it’s
materially the same. He said the “T” and cul-de-sac comparison
isn’t a material change in the application, and believes it’s
essentially the same application.
Mr. Johnson said that at the last meeting he felt that the cul-
de-sac versus the “T” wasn’t a substantial change. He said that
since then, he reviewed the Brandt Development v. Somersworth;
it took under consideration circumstance which could create a
substantial change in zoning or rules. He said that he’s
reconsidered his position on this and finds that it’s not
substantially different, and will be voting to not hear this
case.
Mr. Reppucci said it looks like a motion would carry that it
doesn’t meet the standard requirement that the Court lay out in
the Fisher v. Dover case, and that we find it the same, or
similar enough and not be heard. He asked if the Board can
include anything else.
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Mr. Currier said that the Board has discussed this thoroughly at
three meetings, and the Board is where we are.
Mr. Shaw said that ultimately, the proposal was initially for
three lots, and now it is for four lots.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci that the Board finds that the application
is not substantially different, in consideration of the 3-25-
2003 application that was denied by the Zoning Board of
Adjustment. He said that the Board finds that the application
is similar to that case, to the point that our Board shall not
hear it and the original 2003 decision should stand. He said
the Brandt v. Somersworth case was considered in the
deliberation of this case, as well as Fisher v. Dover.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED 3-2 (Mr. Currier and Mr. Boucher).
2. Pennichuck Water Works, Inc. (Owner) Bay State Forestry
Service (Applicant) “L” Tinker Road (Sheet G Lot 490)
requesting special exception to work in the 75-foot prime
wetland buffer of Bowers Pond to remove dead trees between
Tinker Road and Bowers Pond. R40 Zone, Ward 2. [CONTINUED
FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING]
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
At this point, Mr. Reppucci said that the Board is going to hear
Case #5, to accommodate Alderman Donchess before the Board of
Aldermen meeting.
3. Ducal Development, LLC (Owner) 39 New Dunstable Road (Sheet
122 Lot 367) requesting the following: 1) Appeal of
Administrative decision that a corner lot needs required
lot depth from both streets, and/or 2) Variance for lot
depth (from New Dunstable Road), 90 feet required, 75 feet
proposed – to subdivide one lot into two lots. RA Zone,
Ward 6.
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Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Mr. Reppucci said that they will be dealing with the
administrative decision first.
Bob Cormier, Cuoco & Cormier Engineering, 74 Northeastern
Boulevard, Nashua, NH. Mr. Cormier said that the lot is at the
corner of New Dunstable Road and Liberty Road, and pointed it
out on the map. He said it has approximately 15,000 square feet
of land, and the request is to subdivide the lot into two lots,
each about 7,500 square feet which would meet all dimensions and
regulations in the Nashua Ordinance.
Mr. Cormier stated that upon submitting the plans, they were
told that they’d need a variance because they didn’t meet the
lot depth in two directions, so this is the appeal to that
direction. He said that the Ordinance has a specific section
that deals with corner lots. He said that corner lots have two
front yards and two side yards, the reason being is to have a
25-foot setback in both directions on the corner. He submitted
a colored rendering of what a lot would look like with the front
and rear setbacks.
Mr. Cormier said that the ordinance is trying to help a corner
lot by having two fronts and two sides, and to make it less
restrictive on the sides. He said that the intent for lot depth
is to have a rear yard for the home. He said that in this zone,
there is a 90 foot requirement for lot depth. He said that they
have 100 feet from Liberty Street back. He said that nowhere in
the ordinance does it state that you have to have lot depth in
both directions for a corner lot. He said nowhere does it say
what you have to do different for a corner lot as far as lot
depth goes. He said that if 90 feet were required in both
directions, the lot would need to be at least 8,100 square feet,
where the minimum is 7,500 square feet in the RA Zone.
Mr. Cormier said that they’re following the ordinance as
written, in their opinion, and are seeking relief to go to the
Planning Board to subdivide this parcel.
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Carter Falk, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning, City of Nashua
Planning Department. Mr. Falk said for about 40 years, the
Planning staff had been interpreting corner lots as only needing
lot depth in one direction for a corner lot, not both
directions. He said that there was a case in the north end on
Wellington Street about 8 years ago that is similar to the
subject case. He said that neighbors appealed the City’s
position on having lot depth from only one of the two streets,
and the Board sided with the applicants, and did not support
Staff, and since that interpretation, Staff has been telling
applicants that they need lot depth in both directions for a
corner lot. He said everything has been pretty quiet until the
application before the Board this evening, in which Staff
pointed out the Wellington Street decision, and the Boards
decision at that time is the subject of the appeal.
Mr. Falk said that Staff’s decision is really a decision that
the Board made from the Wellington Street case. He said that
the current applicant believes that they can move forward to the
Planning Board for a subdivision of one lot into two lots.
Mr. Reppucci said that the staff memo that Mr. Falk provided to
the Board, it states that there was no ordinance requirement
then or now that requires corner lots to measure lot depth in
both directions. He said the City has always did it the way the
applicant wants to do it, except for that one decision on
Wellington Street. He said that Staff sent that application
directly to the Planning Board, and an appeal of that was made,
and the Zoning Board heard that appeal, and interpreted that
rule had to be applied in both directions, and from that point
on, solely because of that decision, the Planning Department has
been telling applicants that they need depth from both streets.
Mr. Shaw said it appears as if the Planning Department doesn’t
agree with the Wellington Street decision and that there
shouldn’t be the two lot depth requirement. He said he
understands that Staff has followed the ZBA’s guidelines, but
the Code doesn’t support that.
Mr. Falk said that is the way Staff had interpreted the Code for
so long, over 40 years, and right or wrong, that’s how our Staff
has interpreted it, whether it’s administrative gloss or not.
He said that Staff has honored the decision and interpretation
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Mr. Johnson asked if the Zoning Board of Adjustment back then,
if this went to the Board of Aldermen back then, and if so, what
was the outcome.
Mr. Falk said it didn’t go to the Board of Aldermen, and there
was no recommendation to amend the Code from the Wellington
Street decision.
Ald. Jim Donchess, 4 Rockland Street, Nashua, NH. Ald. Donchess
said he doesn’t see any problems with the subdivision. He said
that there are two ways that the Board could proceed, either the
Board changes the administrative ruling, or a variance is
granted from the interpretation of the administrative staff. He
said that he’s advocating that if the Board wishes to allow
this, that the Board simply proceed with a variance. He said
that there was a legal basis for the decision of the Zoning
Board back then, as it began with the definition of the front
lot line, which is defined as the property line dividing a lot
from a street right of way, and a corner lot, both streets are
divided by a lot line, and from that definition, it flowed that
if you have two front lot lines, and two rear lot lines, that’s
the legal basis. He said that the Wellington Street case went
on and on, there were a lot of people here, many meetings, and
people felt very strongly about it. He said that the Board
decided this legal issue in the context of many facts and a lot
of testimony presented on both sides, and after the neighborhood
went through that whole process, and spent a lot of money on
that case, it would be unfortunate that when this subdivision
could be granted through a variance, it would be unfortunate to
overturn the legal approach taken by the ZBA back then, and in
effect, reverse the Wellington Street case without hearing from
all those people again.
Mr. Reppucci said that the Board is not touching the Wellington
Street case, that case wouldn’t be reversed.
Ald. Donchess said that if the ruling is reversed, the
Wellington Street case could go forward. He suggested taking a
more narrow approach in the subject case instead, and let them
go for a variance.
Mr. Reppucci said that Zoning Boards are specifically forbidden
to make legislation of zoning law. He said that they can’t
change rules. He said that the Board hears individual
applications, and consider them specifically, and there are no
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precedents for other applications. He said he thinks the
Planning Department made a great error by following a decision
on a specific application from that point forward. He said the
Wellington Street decision, which was denied, and not allowed to
go forward, that decision was specific to that piece of
property.
Ald. Donchess said that the Board was interpreting a zoning law,
and when the Board decided the Wellington Street case, the Board
interpreted the zoning law.
Mr. Reppucci said it was only specific to that application.
Ald. Donchess said if the Wellington Street application came in
tomorrow, how could it be turned down, as the zoning law was
applied in a particular way, and now it’s being done the
opposite way for a different case.
Mr. Reppucci said if that application comes forward again, and
it is the same application that was decided upon by a previous
Board, that applications have to be substantially different for
the Board to even consider. He said if that application comes
back to this Board, it’d be the same application as before, and
by the Fisher v. Dover case, the Board couldn’t even consider
hearing the case again, as it wouldn’t be substantially
different.
Ald. Donchess said if the decisions are one way, then another,
then back to the first interpretation, it opens up a lot of
problems and would be an issue at the Court level.
Mr. Reppucci said one avenue would be to have an Alderman
propose some legislation with the way that the Code should be,
that would be the right way to do it, then, there’s no question.
Ald. Donchess said in 2006, the Code was interpreted one way, in
doing it the way the Board of Aldermen thought it should be, and
there was no reason to change the Code at that time.
Mr. Shaw said that he thinks that the Board of Aldermen could
really help define this by bringing forward some revised
legislation.
Mr. Johnson said if the Code was updated, it would help citizens
and developers in knowing exactly what is expected.
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Peter Vincent, 67 Wellington Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Vincent
said that he was involved with the decision originally. He said
that it was a unanimous decision by the Board to turn it down,
and didn’t think it was an interpretation of the law relative to
that case, it was an interpretation of the law period. He said
that there were a lot of people interested in the original case
on Wellington Street and it took a long time, and didn’t want to
see it overturned.
Mr. Reppucci said that there is no precedence. He said that
there is no connection between these cases, and there is no
interpretation that changes the zoning ordinances in the City of
Nashua. He said that the Board is forbidden from doing that.
He said that the Wellington Street case carries no precedence to
this case, he said that the Board would not be overturning
anything.
Mr. Cormier said it’s probably a difference of opinion, but he
said he doesn’t believe that the first case was a legal
approach, there are no written ordinances to support that
decision on two lot depths. He said that the ruling affected
the entire city, and the testimony surrounding that case was
that there was a big concern about lot size. He said that in
this appeal, there is nothing written in the ordinance about
requiring two lot depths for a corner lot, the definitions are
for front, side and rear lots, and there is a specific
definition for corner lots, in writing, but it does not imply
that you need lot depth from both streets. He said that it
states that a corner lot has two front and two side yards, no
rear. He said that this is a case of interpretation versus the
written law. He said that the Planning staff has interpreted it
one way for over forty years, establishing a lot of precedence,
and in this time, the Board of Aldermen accepted it and never
took any action. He said that the Wellington Street was the
only case in which this was appealed. He said the written law
should be upheld, it says nothing about two depths on a corner
lot, all it says is two front and two side yards.
Mr. Shaw said that the Code is silent on lot depth from the
front yard, leaves it open to interpretation and ambiguity. He
said that this Board is left to determine what it means.
Mr. Falk said that at this point, there has been a lot of
discussion from both sides on this issue, and from a staff
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perspective, we’d just like some direction on how we should
interpret this, as staff will need to direct applicants
appropriately in the future.
Mr. Shaw said that if the Board upholds the administrative
decision, there’s a fairly clear indication of how the Planning
staff would proceed, but if the Board does not uphold the
administrative decision, then it seems like the Planning
Department is left with the Wellington Street decision and this
new case that would seemingly interpret this in the opposite
way.
Mr. Falk agreed. He said that during the past eight years,
staff was going on what we thought was a pretty clear decision,
in that if you have a corner lot, you need lot depth from both
directions, and staff wants to give a consistent, accurate
answer.
Mr. Boucher asked Mr. Falk, as a professional Planner, if he
were to look at the City’s Code book, how would he interpret a
corner lot to be.
Mr. Falk said that if he were from out of state, and looked at
our Code, to see what setbacks he’d need for a corner lot, he
said that the definition for a corner lot is that you need two
front yards and two side yards, it doesn’t say anything about
lot depth from two streets.
Mr. Reppucci said that to answer Mr. Falk’s question, he said
that what Staff should do is to interpret the ordinances as they
are written, not the way the Board interpreted it on one
specific application. He said that the Planning Department
should interpret the Code and ordinances the way they see it.
Mr. Falk said that they try to be consistent with
interpretations and advising applicants on how to proceed. He
said the Code is not easy to understand and follow at times.
Mr. Reppucci said that the Zoning Department can’t make laws.
Mr. Johnson said that the Board doesn’t make law, or case law,
we are quasi-judicial, and agreed with Mr. Reppucci.
Mr. Currier said that he’s still feeling the same way as he did
earlier, and the Wellington Street case became a big issue with
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how the corner lot was applied. He said in this case, the
interpretation on Wellington Street and this one, they are two
different cases from two different neighborhoods. He said that
he believed that the Wellington Street decision was a valid one
for that neighborhood. He said he’d prefer to opt for the more
restrictive side. He said he disagrees with the appeal.
Mr. Shaw said he’s more inclined to not support the appeal, and
thinks that the problem remains no matter what the Board decides
now, and which direction, and said he still thinks there is an
ambiguity in the Code that should be clarified.
Mr. Boucher said he’d support the appeal. He said that he
understands that there is some ambiguity in the Code, and if
there is an issue with something not being clear in the Code,
then it should be changed.
Mr. Reppucci said in staff’s memo, it states that staff contends
that there have been numerous corner lots that have been
reviewed and approved over the past few decades, and the
Wellington Street case was the only one that was appealed in
which lot depth from both streets was raised, and that certainly
this issue would have been brought forward years ago if staff
had interpreted the ordinance incorrectly. He said the Planning
Department has been doing it this way forever, and this one case
prevailed, and it’s changing the way the Planning Department has
functioned, and they’ve since followed the way this Board voted
on.
Ms. Vitale asked if there have been any other corner lots in the
Wellington Street neighborhood that have come under this issue.
Mr. Falk said he did not remember any.
Ms. Vitale said that the Board could allow one, like at
Wellington Street, and the decision was right at that time, the
other one was more neighborhood-specific for that time. She
said she could not recall another similar case like this one.
Mr. Falk said that there was one recently at King Street at
Tetreau Street, that’s the only one that comes to mind. He said
that the Board supported that variance.
Ms. Vitale said that we have to discuss whether what is
requested fits in with the neighborhood, and one neighborhood
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might not be the same as another neighborhood, depending on how
it was built and developed over time. She said that corner lots
are defining lots in the neighborhood.
Mr. Reppucci said he thinks the Wellington Street application,
although it’s not before us, that system worked perfectly,
exactly the way it’s supposed to work, as the Planning
Department interpreted the ordinance the way it’s written, they
sent the application to the Planning Board for review, and it
was a zoning related appeal, it got appealed to the Zoning
Board, and the Zoning Board of Adjustment found a certain way,
it was precisely the way it’s supposed to work for that
application. He said that that particular application is not
undermined at all, the Wellington Street decision stands.
Mr. Shaw said that the problem he has is that no matter what,
the Planning Department is to interpret the Code and apply it,
and guide applicants as to whether they need any variances or
special exceptions. He said that in some ways, there are two
levels of the spirit and intent of the ordinance coming at each
other in a collision, that every zone has several dimensional
criteria, and we also have this very specific part of the code
that relates to corner lots having front and side yards, but
doesn’t get to how to define what is the front yard and where
the lot depth is defined from. He said he sees an ongoing
ambiguity here. He said he is concerned that there could be two
decisions that are very much in conflict with one another, and
said that the Code needs to be changed, but until then, the
Board has to help out in the process.
Mr. Currier said that the Wellington Street neighborhood is not
like the one that is before the Board tonight. He said that the
challenge is how to look at the language on applying lot depth
for a corner lot in both directions. He said that the
interpretation was more appropriate for the Wellington Street
case, it was more restrictive, but it doesn’t stop anyone from
going forward and having the Board take a look at it.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to approve an appeal of an administrative
decision that a corner lot is required to have lot depth from
both streets. He said that the Board finds that no variance is
required, and that there is agreement with the applicant that
Mr. Falk’s interpretation, or the Planning Department’s
interpretation is incorrect, and that there is agreement with
the applicant in this case, the Board finds that the applicants
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application is conforming with current zoning law, and it does
not need a variance to proceed.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED 3-2 (Mr. Currier and Mr. Shaw)
Mr. Reppucci said it is possible that someone can appeal this
decision back to us, and they’d have 30 days in which to do so.
4. Pennichuck Water Works, Inc. (Owner) Bay State Forestry
Service (Applicant) “L” Tinker Road (Sheet G Lot 490)
requesting special exception to work in the 75-foot prime
wetland buffer of Bowers Pond to remove dead trees between
Tinker Road and Bowers Pond. R40 Zone, Ward 2. [CONTINUED
FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING].
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Rick Johnson
JP Boucher
Mike Powers, Bay State Forestry Service. Mr. Powers said that
back in 2008 they wrote a Forest Management Plan for the area,
and it was updated in 2013, and it calls for the subject area,
where there are 30-40 large, dead trees on Pennichuck’s land,
and they are a potential hazard for both vehicles and
pedestrians. They just want to remove these dead pines. He
said that the Conservation Commission has already approved the
plan, and they requested that a couple of them remain for bird
nesting, they’re called snag trees. He said that there will be
no staging of equipment in the buffer, it will all be on Tinker
Road.
Mr. Reppucci asked if they are able to meet all the special
regulations from the Conservation Commission.
Mr. Powers said yes.
Mr. Shaw asked what is entailed with a snag tree.
Mr. Powers said that it’s a dead tree that will remain standing,
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and they’re utilized by birds that will hollow out the tree for
a cavity for nesting.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the special exception as
advertised on behalf of the applicant. Mr. Currier stated that
the use is listed in the Table of Uses, Section 190-112.
Mr. Currier stated that the use will not create undue traffic
congestion or unduly impair pedestrian safety, in fact, it will
increase the safety by removing those dead trees. He said it
will not have any impact on any municipal systems.
Mr. Currier stated that the nine special regulations, by
testimony, are all fulfilled, and by removing these dead trees,
it will not have any significant impact on the neighborhood,
it’s a heavily treed area, and it will not be obvious that the
trees are gone, and it will help allow new growth.
Mr. Currier said that the special condition is that the December
16, 2014 Conservation Commission approval is incorporated, with
their 6 stipulations, along with the meeting minutes.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
Mr. Reppucci said that for the previous case, it was not totally
closed out. He said that the Board said that the variance
wasn’t needed, and questioned what to do with it.
Mr. Currier said the need for the variance was covered.
Mr. Shaw said for completeness, we could move to not hear the
variance.
MOTION by Mr. Shaw that the Board finds no need for the area
variance for 39 New Dunstable Road, the variance for lot depth,
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as advertised, the Board finds that there is no need to hear
this variance, and it is no longer needed due to the positive
support for the appeal of the administrative decision, and the
variance is not required.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
5. Masonic Building Association (Owner) Burque Jewelers
(Applicant) 196 Main Street (Sheet 32 Lot 19) requesting
variance to exceed maximum projecting sign area, 10 square
feet allowed, 29 square feet proposed. D-1/MU Zone, Ward
4. [CONTINUED FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING].
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Rick Johnson
JP Boucher
Ken Mermur, President, Burque Jewelers, Nashua, NH. Mr. Mermur
said that Burque Jewelers is the oldest retail establishment in
Nashua, since 1909. He said they’ve been on West Pearl Street
since 1909, and are a four-generation business. He said that
they have an iconic sign, and it was made twenty years ago, and
it was hand-carved. He said that their current building was
sold, and the new owner has forced their hand to move, and they
have found a location on Main Street, at the Masonic Temple
Building. He said it is on the second floor, and fits their
needs.
Mr. Mermur said that the sign is about 5’x6’, with some cutouts.
He said that it is a projecting sign, and will be installed by a
professional sign installer. He said it will be detrimental to
their business to not allow signage, and to not have the iconic
sign that has been on West Pearl Street for twenty years. He
said that they feel that their request is reasonable, it’s not
detrimental to the neighborhood. He pointed out where on the
building the sign would be installed.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
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No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to approve the variance request on behalf
of the owner as advertised. Mr. Boucher stated that the
variance is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, and given the special conditions of the property, and
the benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some
other method reasonably feasible for the applicant to pursue,
other than an area variance.
Mr. Boucher said that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, he said it will not adversely affect
the property values of surrounding parcels. He said it is not
contrary to the public interest, and substantial justice is
done.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
6. Heidy Arango (Owner) 3 Jefferson Street (Sheet 45 Lot 241)
requesting variance for minimum land area, 4,620 square
feet existing, 12,446 square feet required, to convert a
single-family home into a two-family home. RB zone, Ward
3. [TABLED FROM 1-13-15 MEETING].
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Rick Johnson
JP Boucher
Heidy Arango, 3 Jefferson Street, Nashua, NH. Ms. Arango said
she is back to demonstrate how the cars will be parked on the
lot. She said that she’s provided the Board with a sketch of
the driveway showing the 10’x25’ parking space on the other side
of the house. She said she used to live in the house, and could
accommodate four cars in the driveway.
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Ms. Arango said it is 14’ wide by 57’ deep, and on the back of
the house, there is a 15’x21’ space as well. She said four cars
can park here.
Mr. Reppucci said it was his understanding that the Board was
going to get an official plan, a designed plan, that was done by
a professional. He asked if she had met with the Street
Department.
Ms. Arango said that she called the company that did her
driveway, and they were not able to quote something due to all
the snow there. She said that she checked with DPW and they
said it could be done.
Mr. Currier asked about the 14’ wide driveway, and if the first
car goes up and parks to the right.
Ms. Arango said it would be that car off to the right, and three
straight in, that’s how it was done in the past.
Mr. Currier asked if she is going to be putting in a designated
curb on the other side.
Ms. Arango said that she called DPW, and it’ll be supported once
better weather is available.
Mr. Reppucci read some excerpts from the previous meeting, and
mentioned that Mr. Currier said he’d like to see a definitive
plan for parking, with dimensions, and that a Certificate of
Occupancy won’t be provided until it is done. He asked if she
has brought anything forward to the Planning Department.
Ms. Arango said she did talk to staff about the dimensions.
Mr. Reppucci said that his recollection was that the Board
wanted a more official plan, not something drawn up by a lay
person, a plan that the Planning Department and Street
Department reviewed, and we don’t have that. He said he thought
that the direction was clear moving forward.
Ms. Arango said that perhaps she misunderstood, but she did
check with the City.
Mr. Johnson asked if the request has to be approved by the
Planning Board.
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February 10, 2015
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Mr. Falk said that it does not require Planning Board approval.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Johnson said that if anything changes with the request, she
may need to come back before the Board.
Mr. Reppucci said his concern is that she gets the permits to
convert the house to a two-family, and nothing gets done with
the parking spaces. He said that there is a topography issue,
it’s more than just the number of spaces required, and the
parking area has to function properly.
Mr. Shaw said that the Planning Department and Street Department
will be reviewing her plan to make sure it works, her previous
testimony was that the driveway can accommodate three cars, now
her testimony is that the other space on the other side of the
house will be able to work, thereby accommodating four spaces.
Mr. Currier said he’s comfortable with the new 10’x25’ driveway
being permitted, that the parking will be satisfied.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the variance request on behalf
of the owner as advertised. Mr. Currier stated that the
variance is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, from the last meeting, there is testimony that the
area in this part of the City is primarily two-family homes and
the Board’s key issue was that parking has to be accommodated,
and with this approval, the Board is providing a stipulation
that the second driveway on the side of the house, the 10’x25’
space, would be a curbed and paved driveway, and it must be
fulfilled to complete the Certificate of Occupancy, along with
whatever else is required by the Planning and Building
Departments.
Mr. Currier said that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, he said it will not adversely affect
the property values of surrounding parcels. He said it is not
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February 10, 2015
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contrary to the public interest, and substantial justice is
done.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (Mr. Reppucci).
7. JB Nashua Retail, LLC (Owner) 565 Amherst Street (Sheet H
Lot 625) requesting variance to allow a portion of a
parking lot to encroach 4 feet into the front yard setback
to a private way (Nimcor Drive), where a 10 foot setback is
required. GB Zone, Ward 2.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
Rick Johnson
JP Boucher
Attorney Morgan Hollis, Gottesman & Hollis P.A., 39 East Pearl
Street, Nashua, NH. Atty. Hollis said the property is just
before Best Ford, at the intersection of Nimcor Drive. He said
the property is zoned GB, and the owner is proposing to
subdivide and develop into three separate uses, and the access
would be off of Nimcor Drive. He said that Nimcor Drive is a
private drive, created from the subdivision of the Nimcor
property, and Nimcor is no longer in existence, it has been
approved for an Alzheimer’s facility.
Atty. Hollis said that Nimcor Drive is a separate, single lot,
with covenants. He said that Nimcor Drive is owned down the
middle between the subject lot and Best Ford. He said even
though it is a private drive, it’s been interpreted by the
Planning Department that the frontage requirements of a private
way apply to Nimcor Drive. He said that there isn’t access from
Amherst Street, although there is frontage. He said that Nimcor
Drive is being treated as a public way, and as such, there are
frontage requirements. He said that there is a ten-foot front
yard setback, and have submitted a design plan showing some
spaces encroaching about four feet into the ten foot setback.
Atty. Hollis said it is an unusually shaped lot, with a private
driveway, and subdivision of the lot is allowed as long as there
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February 10, 2015
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is an internal circulation plan, which will be provided. He
said that there will be a 3,000 sq.ft building on the front lot,
and a 5,000 sq.ft building in back of it. He said if the
parking lot is pulled back, the buildings just won’t fit on the
lot. He said that there is a provision in the ordinance to go
to the Planning Board, but it’s exactly the same criteria as
going to this Board, so they have elected to go for the
variance, and Section 190-194 (G) requires that all parking must
be out of the front yard setback, which in this zone, is 10
feet.
Mr. Reppucci asked if it is inappropriate to come before the
Board, and if the Planning Department is getting this right.
Atty. Hollis said they did not elect to challenge the decision
made by Staff. He said that they’re trying to obtain the
variance, and believes it meets the criteria for a variance. He
said it’s not contrary to the public interest, as there will be
no loss of visibility, it’s not a public way, and Nimcor Drive
will not ever be widened, and there will be plenty of space
between the parking spaces and the edge of pavement.
Atty. Hollis stated that the encroachment will not alter the
character of the neighborhood, as there are numerous parking
lots close to the right-of-way in this area, and there is no
threat to safety or visibility.
Atty. Hollis said it will observe the spirit and intent of the
ordinance, the proposal will provide for widening in the right-
of-way itself, and still give 6 feet, not 10 feet to the parking
area.
Atty. Hollis said that the request will provide substantial
justice, and it will not harm any public or private entity.
Atty. Hollis said that the property values of surrounding
properties will not be negatively impacted, and although there
is no independent appraisal, it’s believed that there will not
be any impact to any property values.
Atty. Hollis said that the hardship is met, it is an unusually
shaped lot, it is a GB zone, it has frontage on Amherst Street,
but no access to Amherst Street, there is access on a private
street, and there is no impact to the property.
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February 10, 2015
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Mr. Currier asked who plows Nimcor Drive.
Atty. Hollis said that it is maintained by the group under the
Covenants.
Mr. Currier asked about trash pick-up.
Atty. Hollis said it will be done by an independent company, as
its commercial property.
Mr. Currier asked if at any point the property owner could
petition to have Nimcor Drive be a public street.
Atty. Hollis said it’s really not possible, it’s not the way the
subdivision was envisioned or approved.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Currier said he’d feel more comfortable if there was a
stipulation that Nimcor Drive remains a private way.
Atty. Hollis said that would be fine.
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the variance request on behalf
of the applicant as advertised. Mr. Currier stated that the
variance is needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the
property, which is a three lot subdivision with access via
Nimcor Drive.
Mr. Currier said that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, as Nimcor Drive is privately owned and
maintained, and asks that a stipulation be added that this
variance be approved with a stipulation that Nimcor Drive remain
a private road, that it current serving as. He said it will not
adversely affect the property values of surrounding parcels. He
said it is not contrary to the public interest, and substantial
justice is done.
SECONDED by Mr. Shaw.
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February 10, 2015
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MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
8. EDCO Nashua, LLC c/o Pep Boys Tax Department (Owner) Barlo
Signs (Applicant) 274 Amherst Street (Sheet E Lot 2136)
requesting the following variances: 1) to exceed maximum
ground sign area for a corner lot, two signs at a maximum
of 100 sq.ft each allowed – one existing sign at 145 sq.ft.
existing – one additional ground sign at 80 sq.ft proposed
for a total of 225 sq.ft; and 2) to allow for off-premises
advertising on proposed ground sign. HB Zone, Ward 1.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rob Shaw
J.P. Boucher
Rick Johnson
Tim Sullivan, Barlo Signs, Hudson, NH. Mr. Sullivan said that
the Board has received a revised site plan. He said that the
Planning Department has requested that they seek input for a
traffic engineer, there is a lot of concern with what is going
to happen at this intersection with the Whole Foods Plaza, and
there is a lot of traffic at the intersection. He said they are
looking to change the traffic pattern, where the jug-handle will
be removed, and the lanes will be increased.
Mr. Sullivan said that one of the main concerns is that they
have a second entrance into the property. He said that the
second entrance will be off of Charron Avenue, coming in behind
the Pep Boys property, coming in to the proposed plaza.
Mr. Sullivan said it will allow the traffic coming up Charron
Avenue to avoid Amherst Street altogether, and traffic coming
out from this plaza into the jug-handle will avoid this area.
Mr. Reppucci asked if anything will be changed at the Pep Boys
site.
Mr. Sullivan said nothing will be changed at that site.
Mr. Sullivan said that the sign proposed is an entrance sign at
the back of the Pep Boys site off Charron Avenue. He said that
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February 10, 2015
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the main Pep Boys identification sign will remain. He said the
proposed sign will help to direct traffic into the entrance. He
said that there are two variances, one to allow a new 80 sq.ft
ground sign, and the other one is to allow for off-premises
advertising. He said that corner lots can have two signs at 100
sq.ft each.
Mr. Sullivan said that this sign will be in excess of 300 feet
from the Amherst Street intersection, so the goal is to allow
some visibility at this area to enter the property.
Mr. Reppucci said that the proposed sign is less than the 100
sq.ft allowed.
Mr. Sullivan said that the Pep Boys sign is already at the
largest it can be, it’s 145 sq.ft for the single lot, and at the
time it was permitted, it could be 150 sq.ft. He said that
they’re at 225 sq.ft, which is close to the 200 sq.ft aggregate
total size.
Mr. Shaw said he didn’t see if the proposed sign would help
anyone on Amherst Street to try to get into the plaza.
Mr. Sullivan said that there will be a left-turn lane at the
intersection.
Mr. Falk said that the proposed sign will help drivers on
Charron Avenue mainly, as it will help them to turn into the
plaza without going all the way to Amherst Street.
Mr. Sullivan said that the main idea is to get drivers coming
off of Charron Avenue to the new plaza.
Mr. Currier said that it looks as if the names of the new
tenants will be on the sign with Pep Boys, and asked if that is
the off-premises variance.
Mr. Sullivan agreed, and said that for both properties, there is
the same owner.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Brian Leahy, EDCO Nashua. Mr. Leahy said that with respect to
traffic, they already have had a joint traffic study with the
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February 10, 2015
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Whole Foods Plaza and the Traffic Department, and the approvals
by the Planning Board include two options, one is to have the
existing jug-handle remain as is with some minor widenings. He
said that they’d like to do a dedicated left-turn coming Amherst
Street, and an additional left turn will be there heading east,
so it will eventually become a full intersection. He said that
they also are proposing a double-left turn coming out of Charron
Avenue, which will greatly improve traffic. He said that they
have worked with the Traffic Department on this, and Pep Boys is
right in the middle of this, and they have asked for signage on
the back side as proposed.
Mr. Currier said he sees the need for the off-premises sign. He
said a concern is why they didn’t propose a 55 square foot sign
instead of an 80 square foot sign to meet the ordinance.
Mr. Leahy said that the sign could even be 100 sq.ft, but the
existing sign out front would have to be modified. He said that
there are several tenants, a multi-tenant plaza, and the new
portion could have as many as six tenants, and it’s needed to
allow for proper identity on the sign.
Mr. Reppucci asked how large a sign could be placed in the front
of the new shopping center parcel.
Mr. Leahy said it can be 150 sq.ft.
Mr. Reppucci asked if they plan on a larger sign, and coming
back for a variance.
Mr. Leahy said that their proposal for the shopping center will
be 150 sq.ft or less.
Mr. Reppucci asked if they’d be comfortable with a stipulation
that if tonight’s request is supported, that no other area
variances would be asked for these properties combined.
Mr. Leahy said on the pylon sign, he felt comfortable with that.
He said he’s not sure of the bylaws for the wall signage.
Mr. Leahy reiterated the location and size of the existing and
proposed ground signs, there will be three total, two on the Pep
Boys parcel, and one for the new shopping center.
Mr. Currier asked Mr. Falk if he has the complete sign package
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February 10, 2015
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that they’re proposing.
Mr. Falk said it hasn’t been submitted yet.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Shaw to approve the variance requests on behalf of
the owner as advertised, with both requests considered
collectively. Mr. Shaw stated that the variance is needed to
enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property, he said
that there are some unique aspects to not only this property but
the fact that it’s part of a greater complex of new proposed
retail shopping center that the applicant has in ownership with
the Pep Boys lot that borders between the new center and Charron
Avenue. He said that the plan overall has a new change to
traffic flow improvements and signalization, etc., and the
entrance on Charron Avenue where the new second sign will be
located will help to bring traffic into the plaza and to Pep
Boys from Charron Avenue rather than have to get onto Amherst
Street, as well as by the allowance of off-premises advertising
for those new retail businesses, will also identify them as in
that entrance, and to bring traffic in from Charron Avenue and
help with the traffic flow.
Mr. Shaw said that the request is within the spirit and intent
of the ordinance, he said it will not adversely affect the
property values of surrounding parcels. He said it is not
contrary to the public interest, and substantial justice is
done. He said that the Board did hear the intent is for the one
ground sign which will be part of the new retail center, and
that sign will not exceed the allowable square footage of 150
square feet, and the Board did look at the fact that there will
be three signs, ultimately as proposed for the plan for the
overall site, including the sign for Pep Boys, and the new sign
on Charron Avenue for the retail center.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REHEARING REQUESTS:
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February 10, 2015
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None.
REGIONAL IMPACT:
The Board determined that there are no cases that have Regional
Impact.
MINUTES:
1-13-15:
The Board stated that there are some pages missing at the end,
it stops on page 20. Mr. Falk said that he will send out a
complete set for the next meeting.
10-28-14:
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes as presented,
waive the reading, and place in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
11-12-14:
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes as presented,
waive the reading, and place in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
11-25-14:
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes as presented,
waive the reading, and place in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
12-9-14:
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February 10, 2015
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Mr. Johnson pointed out on page 21, second line, it should be
the word “is” .
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes as presented,
waive the reading, and place in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
1-13-15:
As previously discussed, Staff will send these minutes out
again.
Mr. Currier said on page 5, the sentence he said that the public
is welcome, he said his intent was that the public did not have
to attend, and they can watch it on TV, but they are certainly
welcome to do so.
Mr. Reppucci said for page 18, it says that this Board can
prevent this or any other health club to come here, when it
should say “cannot” prevent.
OFFICERS:
Mr. Reppucci said he likes being the Chair, and would like to
continue.
Mr. Currier asked if the newer members had any interest in
moving up.
Mr. Johnson said he’s used to being Clerk. He said that this
will probably be the last term he will serve. He said at this
point, he’d be interested in doing a little more, and is willing
to try. He said he’d like to try to be the Chairman.
Mr. Boucher said he’d entertain being the Clerk, if no one else
wants the position. He said he’s also happy contributing just
as is. He said that Mr. Reppucci has done a great job as Chair,
he’s very well prepared for our meetings, and is supportive of
Mr. Reppucci.
Mr. Shaw said that when he was first on the Board, there was
always an opportunity for each one of us to be the Chair, and
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February 10, 2015
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cycle on and off. He said he appreciates Mr. Reppucci’s efforts
as the Chair, and said he’d also like to support Mr. Johnson for
an opportunity as the Chair.
Mr. Currier said that Mr. Reppucci has done yeoman’s job as a
Chair. He said it was a goal of his to become Chair, and feels
that it’s a good perspective to support the Chairman, and would
be supportive of Mr. Johnson to be the Chairman.
Mr. Shaw said that Mr. Currier, Mr. Reppucci and himself has
been the Chair at one time or another.
Mr. Johnson said he’s willing to give it a try, and would be
honored, and would do his very best. He said he’d accept a
nomination.
NOMINATION by Mr. Currier for Mr. Boucher to be the Clerk.
Mr. Boucher said he’s indifferent right now, he said if the slot
is empty, he’d be happy to serve as the Clerk, if no one else
steps up.
Mr. Shaw said that he was once Clerk, and it helps you to pay
attention in a different way, and it’s a good experience, and
it’s a responsibility too.
Mr. Currier asked Mr. Reppucci if he had an interest in being
the Vice Chair.
Mr. Reppucci said no.
Mr. Currier said he’s content to stay as the Vice Chair.
Mr. Shaw asked Mr. Reppucci if he were interested in being the
Clerk.
Mr. Reppucci said no.
NOMINATION by Mr. Shaw for a slate of Officers to have Mr.
Johnson as Chair, Mr. Currier as Vice Chair, and Mr. Boucher as
Clerk.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0 (Mr. Reppucci abstained).
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February 10, 2015
Page 28
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Reppucci called the meeting closed at 10:13 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Johnson, Clerk.
CF - Taped Hearing
Agenda
Community Development 589-3095
City of Nashua Planning and Zoning
Building Safety
589-3090
589-3080
Code Enforcement 589-3100
Community Development Division
Urban Programs 589-3085
Economic Development 589-3070
Conservation Commission 589-3105
City Hall, 229 Main Street, PO Box 2019 FAX 589-3119
Nashua, New Hampshire 03061-2019 www.gonashua.com
January 28, 2015
The following is to be published on ROP January 31, 2015, under the
Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format 65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of Nashua
Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday, February 10,
2015, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall Auditorium, 3rd floor, 229
Main Street.
1. Alison T. Slater (Owner) Russell Slater (Applicant) 15
Colonial Avenue (Sheet D Lot 497) requesting variance for lot
width, 105 feet required – 50 feet proposed, to subdivide one
lot into two lots. R30 Zone, Ward 5. [TABLED FROM 1-13-15
MEETING; AND CONTINUED FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING].
2. Pennichuck Water Works, Inc. (Owner) Bay State Forestry
Service (Applicant) “L” Tinker Road (Sheet G Lot 490)
requesting special exception to work in the 75-foot prime
wetland buffer of Bowers Pond to remove dead trees between
Tinker Road and Bowers Pond. R40 Zone, Ward 2. [CONTINUED
FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING]
3. Masonic Building Association (Owner) Burque Jewelers
(Applicant) 196 Main Street (Sheet 32 Lot 19) requesting
variance to exceed maximum projecting sign area, 10 square
feet allowed, 29 square feet proposed. D-1/MU Zone, Ward 4.
[CONTINUED FROM 1-27-15 CANCELLED MEETING]
4. Heidy Arango (Owner) 3 Jefferson Street (Sheet 45 Lot 241)
requesting variance for minimum land area, 4,620 square feet
existing, 12,446 square feet required, to convert a single-
family home into a two-family home. RB Zone, Ward 3. [TABLED
FROM 1-13-15 MEETING]
5. Ducal Development, LLC (Owner) 39 New Dunstable Road (Sheet
122 Lot 367) requesting the following: 1) Appeal of
Administrative decision that a corner lot needs required lot
depth from both streets, and/or 2) Variance for lot depth
(from New Dunstable Road), 90 feet required, 75 feet proposed
– to subdivide one lot into two lots. RA Zone, Ward 6.
6. JB Nashua Retail, LLC (Owner) 565 Amherst Street (Sheet H Lot
625) requesting variance to allow a portion of a parking lot
to encroach 4 feet into the front yard setback to a private
way (NimCor Drive), where a 10 foot setback is required. GB
Zone, Ward 2.
7. EDCO Nashua, LLC c/o Pep Boys Tax Department (Owner) Barlo
Signs (Applicant) 274 Amherst Street (Sheet E Lot 2136)
requesting the following variances: 1) to exceed maximum
ground sign area for a corner lot, two signs at a maximum of
100 sq.ft each allowed – one existing sign at 145 sq.ft
existing – one additional ground sign at 80 sq.ft proposed for
a total of 225 sq.ft; and, 2) to allow for off-premise
advertising on proposed ground sign. HB Zone, Ward 1.
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of regional
impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
"SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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