Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · May 10, 2016
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
May 10, 2016
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium, City Hall.
Members in attendance were:
Gerry Reppucci, Chair
Jack Currier, Vice Chair (arrived at 6:45 p.m.)
J.P. Boucher, Clerk
Mariellen MacKay (left at 7:00 p.m.)
Rob Shaw
Kathy Vitale
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Reppucci explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Reppucci explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Reppucci also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. One Chestnut Street Limited Partnership (Owner) First Sign
& Corporate Image, Inc. (Applicant) 1 Chestnut Street
(Sheet 80 Lot 1) requesting variance to exceed maximum wall
sign area, 100 square feet allowed, 200 square feet
existing, two additional wall signs at 375.5 square feet
each proposed for east and west elevations for a total of
951 square feet. GI/MU Zone, Ward 4. [TABLED FROM 4-12-16
MEETING]
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
J.P. Boucher
Mariellen MacKay
Rob Shaw
Kathy Vitale
Scott Aubertin, First Sign & Corporate Image, Manchester, NH.
Mr. Aubertin said that they have taken a detailed analysis and
look at the Boards comments and feedback from the last meeting,
and re-evaluated what they are proposing.
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Mr. Aubertin said that they looked at each sign individually.
He said that they believe the elevation facing the Broad Street
Parkway is much more important, so the sign facing Chestnut
Street was eliminated, and to just focus on the sign facing the
Parkway. He said that they also evaluated the size of the sign
there, and said that they provided a series of photographs with
corresponding numbers on a map so that the Board can get a
concept of what you’d see from different points on the Parkway.
He said it is very important for them to have a legible sign to
be read from the Parkway, and the sign was also reduced in size
by 10% from the original proposal, which was for 375 square
feet, and now its 338 square feet.
Mr. Aubertin said that the sign is less than 3% of the building
fascia, it’s huge, it’s 80 feet high, and the building itself is
over 430,000 square feet of space. He said that they believe
that the sign is proportional to the building and given the
setback, it’s over 300 feet from the road, and the sign is eight
stories high, so by virtue of that distance, the sign won’t look
as large as it sounds, and it’s proportionate and aesthetically
pleasing to the building.
Mr. Aubertin said that the Board asked about readability
distance of the size of the letters, and said that its
difficult, as there are many factors, as there are trees, power
lines, and a lot of obstructions, and the road has curves and
it’s not like you’re standing directly in front of it, you only
have a moment to take your eye off the road to view the sign.
He said that the sign is designed to re-brand the property using
the address as the major part of it, making it known as the One
Chestnut Street building, and it will be helpful for people to
locate the building. He said that the Millyard Office building
was granted a variance to place three signs on their building,
at 100 square feet each, but that building is right on the
Parkway, and there is visibility for that building on both
directions, and its visible for a longer time.
Mr. Boucher asked if the sign will be illuminated.
Mr. Aubertin said the letters are individually internally
illuminated channel letters, with LED’s inside them, so they’ll
glow white at night.
Mr. Reppucci said that when he looked at picture #6, and asked
if the sign superimposed on the picture is an accurate depiction
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of what it would look like, to scale.
Mr. Aubertin said that the sign is accurately shown to scale, so
it should be fairly representative of what the sign would look
like on the building.
Ms. Vitale asked if they are going to keep the existing sign on
the Chestnut Street side.
Mr. Aubertin said yes, on that side, there are smaller letters
that just say the address, they’ll stay, and there is that 100
square foot sign on the far right hand corner that will also
remain.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Shaw said that he appreciates the scaling back of the sign,
and dimensionally, it’s more reasonable.
Ms. Vitale said that she believes the request is completely
reasonable, the building is a destination point for a lot of
people, and it will definitely help.
Mrs. MacKay agreed, she said it’s a really good plan, and
they’ll be allowed to advertise what they need to advertise, and
it will be aesthetically pleasing and nicely done.
Mr. Boucher agreed with other Board member comments.
Mr. Reppucci said he feels the same way, the pictures helped a
lot.
MOTION by Mr. Shaw to approve the variance application as
advertised on behalf of the owner. Mr. Shaw said that with the
revisions by the applicant, it’s now one additional wall sign at
338 square feet for a total of 538 square feet.
Mr. Shaw said that the variance is needed to enable the
applicant’s proposed use of the property, given the special
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conditions of the property, it is a very large structure and
some of the roadway approaches to the building are fairly
limited, and the primary approach and what is expected to be the
most heavily traveled approach to the site is from the Broad
Street Parkway, so the signage is to bring the sign on the
building to be seen from the Broad Street Parkway.
Mr. Shaw said that the proposed use would be within the spirit
and intent of the ordinance.
Mr. Shaw said that Currier said that it will have no negative
impact on surrounding properties. He said it is not contrary to
the public interest, and substantial justice is served to the
owner.
SECONDED by Mrs. MacKay.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
Mr. Reppucci said that the Board has received the letter from
Mr. Porter. He said that he believes it’s a request for the
Board to re-consider our decision, and it’s within the 30-day
window. He’s asking us to amend our motion. He said he’s not
sure if it’s a rehearing request, or a request for us to open
the case and amend our motion. He said that he believes that
the Board can take the case off the table and consider his
input.
Mr. Shaw said that he read somewhere in the correspondence that
it’s not a rehearing request, and he thought that Mr. Porter was
asking for was something along the lines of essentially future
consideration. He said he’s not sure of the real intent of the
letter.
Mr. Reppucci read the last paragraph of the letter. He said
that there’s really nothing the Board can do unless the case is
re-opened.
Mr. Currier said that he feels that the only vehicle the Board
has to amend it is to rehear it. He said he’s not sure if the
Board can take it off the table and then make an amendment and
vote on it again.
Mr. Reppucci said that the case for 74 Cox Street says that we
can do that. He said that the Court said that within the 30-day
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window, the Board can rectify any mistake the Board thinks it
made within the window of time.
Mr. Shaw said that he thinks that Mr. Porter may not realize the
roles of the different Boards and Commissions within the City,
and thinks that he’s attributing extra power to what we have the
ability to do. He said the case was a special exception and we
approved it based on the criteria before us and the limited
scope of what that requires. He said that the Board could
reopen it, because we are within the 30 days.
Mr. Reppucci said he’s confident that the Board can.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to take the case off the table for
further discussion.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
Mr. Shaw said he first wants to establish whether we believe
there is even merit for taking the case off the table. He said
his concern is that we are essentially taking some action on the
case by approving to re-open it.
Mr. Boucher said he’s agreeing with Mr. Shaw, he said on face
value, he’s looking at the reason to do that is. He said that
he doesn’t see the validity or the value of doing that, because
he didn’t see the reason behind it.
Mr. Reppucci said that he believes that this is purely a
procedural thing. He said that the Board shouldn’t discuss any
element of the case without taking it off the table. He said
that this is a concerned citizen who is asking the Board to
reconsider something that we did. He said that the Board can
either decide not to consider it, or we can decide to reconsider
it.
Mrs. MacKay said that in her opinion, discussion around a motion
or the validity of the motion, any discussion of it has to be
removed from the table to have a discussion on it.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
At this point, Mrs. MacKay left the meeting and Ms. Vitale will
be voting.
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Mr. Reppucci said that what we have is a person who doesn’t
understand the procedural steps, and where and when things might
happen. He said that his sense of what he’s asking us to do is
that it’s not a proper thing for allowing a permit to work
within a wetland buffer. He said that his suggestion that the
Board remove the stipulation without discussion, that’s another
misunderstanding where we didn’t specifically speak to it in the
motion to the detail he would like. He said that he wouldn’t
consider amending the Board’s original decision.
Mr. Shaw said that the letter didn’t really bring forth any new
request; it was restating what he wanted to do when he brought
forward his original testimony during the public hearing.
Mr. Currier said that he was the only one who wanted the
stipulation to be there. He said that Mr. Porter’s letters
mentioned that he wasn’t suggesting, or that some members of the
Board felt that he was suggesting having public access while the
mitigation was going on. He said that even though he’d like the
easement to be there, he didn’t feel that there is enough to
overturn the decision on that.
Mr. Reppucci said that the length and depth of our discussion at
the public hearing was much greater than was summarized in Mr.
Porter’s letter. He said that the record of our discussion was
clear, too.
Mr. Currier asked if this plan will be required to go to the
Planning Board.
Mr. Falk said that nothing has been submitted yet, but if it’s
going to be a subdivision plan, it will.
Mr. Currier said that the Planning Board discusses sidewalks,
and public ways, and the easement could come up, or be
stipulated. He said even though the vote didn’t go his way, it
wasn’t a deal breaker, as there is still the review by the
Planning Board.
Ms. Vitale said that the Planning Board is the proper Board that
would review something like the easement. She said it would be
too early to include it now.
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MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to keep the decision as it is. He said
that he’s not inclined to change what the Board did, the Board
was very thorough, and there is no reason to re-visit what the
Board did, and that our decision should just stand as is. He
said he has a written response to Mr. Porter and will offer that
in the public record.
SECONDED by Mr. Shaw.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REGIONAL IMPACT:
The Board determined that there are no cases of Regional Impact.
REHEARING REQUESTS:
None.
MINUTES:
4-12-16:
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes, waive the
reading, and place them in the permanent file.
SECONDED by Mr. Shaw.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Reppucci called the meeting closed at 7:30 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Boucher, Clerk.
CF - Taped Hearing
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