GIS Steering Committee
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · October 22, 2009
Minutes
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
Summary Minutes
October 22, 2009
Co-Chairs: Andrew Przybylo – Trustee
George Van Geem – Village Manager
Persons in attendance:
Bob Callero Mayor
Steve Cusick MIS Dept.
Mousa Nazzal Engineering Dept.
Chuck Ostman Community Development Dept.
Bob Pilat Public Services
Andrew Przybylo Trustee
Bill Shaw MIS Dept.
George VanGeem Village Manager
Andrew Vitale MIS Dept.
Rich Wlodarski Community Development Dept.
The meeting was called to order at 8:02 a.m. G. Van Geem turned the meeting over to
A.Vitale.
Agenda Item #1 – Old Business – Project Updates
Atlas
-Rebuild of Server
A.Vitale reported that Atlas has had some problems with speed, reliability and
performance. B. Shaw, S. Cusick and A. Vitale took the service down and rebuilt it,
working on the server and the map interface. We are now clear to go back on Atlas, as its
performance is more stable and smooth. A.Vitale will send an email announcing that
Atlas is back up.
-Field Visibility
A.Vitale reported that we removed the feature that provided the option to turn off the
visibility of certain fields. Atlas now runs faster and performs better. Sensitive layers are
still hidden for security reasons.
-Planimetric Data
A.Vitale spoke with members of Community Development and other frequent Atlas users
regarding the planimetric information and how we want the interface of Atlas to first
appear. We currently see the air photo, parcels and addresses. Based on the findings of
the sub-committee, our planimetric data will be available to our users, but it will not
come up by default.
GPS Project
A.Vitale reported that the last GPS point was taken on October 15, 2009. We have now
finished the initial field portion of the GPS data gathering effort, capturing 15,034
billable points. All parkways were walked, as well as manufacturing and industrial areas.
The challenge now is to capture other needed pieces of information, such as catch basins
and manholes in side and rear yards. He asked for suggestions, keeping in mind a
balance between the accuracy needed and the time and cost it will take.
C. Ostman recommended that, once a month, we try to identify what manholes, etc. we
are missing and rent a device and capture them ourselves. It would be good to get into
the habit of going out every month or two (less in the winter) to keep the information up-
to-date.
B. Shaw asked if we have the right to go onto private property to capture these points.
Response from the group: Many of these points will be on easements, where we do have
the right. But many easements are part of fenced-in yards, many points are on fenced-in
private property, and there are dogs to consider. A solution is to notify residents in
advance that we will be entering their yards. Our employees should wear Village of
Niles identification.
Mayor Callero summarized: 1) We can collect points from the maps that we have.
A.Vitale will compare the paper sewer maps to the new map, and can then identify what
is missing. 2) We can utilize employees’ personal knowledge of what needs to be
plotted, including new construction sites. 3) Each employee should make a list of these
areas and submit it to Andrew, and routinely update these lists.
Monument Re-calibration
M. Nazzal has been gathering proposals for the re-calibration of our monuments. The
method is to use at least two monuments – one in Evanston and one in Glenview – and
try to determine how much our monuments are off. This is necessary because our
monuments are off vertically by 6 to 8 inches, and GIS, our previously gathered survey
information, and all construction are tied into these monuments. We would like to do this
as soon as possible.
It is believed that the 23 monuments in the Village of Niles are correct between each
other. C. Ostman disputed this. R. Wlodarski talked with someone from an engineering
firm who happens to be doing a project in Niles. This person said that monuments #1 and
#3 were off 3 inches vertically between each other.
C. Ostman suggested that we ask a firm such as Gewalt-Hamilton to look at our current
specifications to see that they’re written properly and are correct. We can explain the
current situation and ask for their recommendation. We will do further research before
taking any further action and report back at our next meeting.
Agenda Item #2 – Departmental Projects
Public Services – Water & Sewer Mapping / Development
A.Vitale reported that he has almost completed moving our water assets to the locations
indicated by the GPS points. The initial draft movement through the water layers is up
on Atlas.
Work on water and sewers is continuing. A. Vitale’s goal is to finish the water mapping
portions and complete the water layers just after the holidays, and begin printing paper
atlases during the winter.
MMS / GIS – Maintenance Management
B. Shaw reported that Maintenance Management will not be just a tool, but a series of
tools that will allow us to maintain the GIS attribute information for all the different
layers. Atlas has many layers of data. We will build the Maintenance Management
system with multiple layer functionality so it will be able to handle all the different layers
as we load them into the system. Then, any future additions will be easier and faster.
Mayor Callero asked when we can expect work on Maintenance Management to begin.
B. Shaw responded that we should be working on it by mid-November at the latest,
barring some other major change in priority, and should see results by the first of the
year.
Agenda Item #3 – New Business
Cook County Data Sharing
A.Vitale reported that Cook County has changed the way that they share information. In
the past, he would have to submit a resolution to the Board and then solicit the Cook
County Assessor’s office for access to GIS data layers as well as the current assessment
tables, which would represent the currently billed tax year information. Now, he deals
with the Cook County Assessor’s office strictly for the table on new assessment
information, and he deals directly with the Cook County GIS office for all data layers, for
which he has already started the process.
A.Vitale should get new data layers very soon, and new assessment information (parcel
layers) in December/January. Soon after getting this information, he will make it
available so we will be on the most current parcel layer and ownership table. The key is
that we will not have to maintain these layers.
Public Services – Sign Database & Inventory
A.Vitale reported that he and Bob Pilat have discussed rebuilding our sign database. His
goal is to use the Maintenance Management system to maintain and keep current the
attributes of these signs as well as their locations.
B. Pilat stated that the purpose of a sign database is to help us comply with new federal
standards regarding the retro-reflectivity of signs. Through the database, we can record
information such as when a sign is installed, inspected, and replaced, as well as whether
or not a sign meets set standards. This can help protect us from litigation and liability.
We have until 2016 to be in compliance with these new standards. We are only obligated
to maintain Village of Niles signs on state roads.
This database will be part of the Maintenance Management system and will include an
inventory of all Village-owned signs. There will be a field to records a sign’s visibility.
We can initiate a program based on this information whereby personnel will routinely
inspect signs for obstructions. Mayor Callero requested that such inspections be
conducted from the start.
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A. Vitale closed the meeting by asking if there were any questions about the projects and
issues that were discussed.
G. VanGeem referred to an email that Chuck Ostman sent asking if this committee
should set some measureable goals. We should define what we are trying to accomplish
and in what timeframe.
B. Shaw asked that everyone make a list of the things they would like to see us achieve
other than what we already have on the table.
Mayor Callero commented that the reason we put this committee together in the first
place with all the different departments is that each department has different priorities.
With a list in place, we can determine what is most important and shift the tasks if
necessary. He asked Andrew to work on a long-range plan, using a yearly timeframe.
Agenda Item #5 – Schedule the Next Meeting
The next meeting will be Thursday, December 10, 2009 at 8:00 a.m. in the 2nd floor main
conference room 218.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:26 a.m.
Steering Committee Members
Andrew Przybylo Trustee atp@vniles.com
George Van Geem Administration gvg@vniles.com 847-588-8002
Bill Shaw MIS wfs@vniles.com 847-588-8015
Andrew Vitale MIS ajv@vniles.com 847-588-8022
Steve Cusick MIS src@vniles.com 847-588-8018
Moses Nazzal Engineering mhn@vniles.com 847-588-7924
Scott Jochim Public Services snj@vniles.com 847-588-7901
Bob Pilat Public Services rmp@vniles.com 847-588-7926
Chuck Ostman Community Development cfo@vniles.com 847-588-8041
Rich Wlordarski Community Development rjw@vniles.com 847-588-8085
Agenda
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
AGENDA
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
October 22, 2009
1. Old Business – Project Updates
• Atlas
o Rebuild of Server
o Field Visibility
o Planimetric Data
• GPS Project
o Project Status and Future Plan
• Monument Re-calibration
o Review of proposals
2. Departmental Projects
• Public Services – Water & Sewer Mapping / Development
o Data Design & Project Plan
• MMS / GIS – Maintenance Management
3. New Business
• Cook County Data Sharing
o Delivery of new Data Layers
o Assessment Data Delivery
• Public Services – Sign Database & Inventory
o Fire Lane Parking Signage
4. Schedule next meeting (Suggested date: December 10th)