GIS Steering Committee
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · October 13, 2011
Minutes
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
October 13, 2011
Co-Chairs: Andrew Przybylo – Trustee
George Van Geem – Village Manager
Persons in attendance:
Robert Callero Mayor
Bob Pilat Public Services
Andrew Przybylo Trustee
Bill Shaw MIS Director
George Van Geem Village Manager
Andrew Vitale MIS – Sr. GIS Coordinator
Rich Wlodarski Community Development
The meeting was called to order by Trustee Przybylo at 8:08 a.m.
Agenda Item #1 – Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the September 8, 2011 meeting were approved.
Agenda Item #2 – Old Business – Project Updates
Maintenance Management System (MMS)
B. Shaw reported that work has begun on setting up the security groups to establish who in
Public Services will have access to what features. A new release from VueWorks containing a
feature we were looking for will be installed in the near future. We will then meet with the
leadership of Public Services to review our recommendations for security permission. Then we
should be able to begin training.
Trustee Przybylo asked if our vehicles will have remote access to MMS. B. Shaw responded that
he is looking into the various methods available. Trustee Przybylo asked about the timeline.
B.Shaw stated that he would like to begin a test mode before the next meeting for in-house
usage. In-vehicle/remote access will be part of the second phase. Trustee Przybylo asked if the
system allows for feedback from the residents and evaluation of our service. B. Shaw responded
that we do have that capability.
Trustee Przybylo asked how much money this is supposed to save the Village. Mayor Callero
responded that it is more about managing the maintenance of our services and giving us control
of work orders. B. Pilat added that this system will give us an automated/computerized method
of record-keeping instead of the paper method currently in use.
Trustee Przybylo asked if the Village of Niles is catching up or if this is cutting-edge. The
consensus is that we are catching up; but once the system is in place, it will be ahead of other
communities.
Trustee Przybylo suggested to the Mayor that he should take this as the keystone and make a
major announcement – a press conference at Public Services – to introduce MMS to the public to
let them know that the turn-around time and customer satisfaction will be so much greater than
before, that we have a progressive government here in Niles. Mayor Callero agreed, but
suggested we wait until all the kinks are out. He asked B. Shaw to keep him informed of the
progress.
It was noted that requests for tree trimming can be taken and filled with or without a tree
inventory, but a tree inventory will allow us to know the history of maintenance on that
particular tree which can then be mapped – linking the tree to an address or a location.
Mayor Callero noted that when MMS goes out to the public, we will receive a lot more
complaints and requests. Trustee Przybylo declared that “that’s what we’re here for.” B. Shaw
stated that whenever you introduce something new there is a “rush,” but after a while it settles
down and normalizes. We need to be prepared for the rush and should time the announcement to
coincide with a traditional down-time in the Public Works Department.
B. Shaw continued that a long term goal of MMS is to make the service request feature available
to every department so that a resident can request service for any situation, not just Public
Services-related issues. The mechanism will be more manual at first, but will eventually become
automated so that every department can participate digitally.
Atlas Data Correction Request
A.Vitale reported that people have been questioning him regarding keeping the Property Details
section of Atlas up-to-date. The MIS Department created a Correction Request Form which is
online and active. If an employee logged in to Atlas notices an error, he can use the submission
form to report the error. The form will go to A.Vitale who will route it to the data stewards, i.e.
the person responsible for that database. That person can make a change or not, and can interact
directly with the requestor. A.Vitale will be advised of any change made. B. Shaw added that
we hope to meet with all the data stewards next week to review this procedure.
GPS Equipment Purchase
A.Vitale reported that we are hoping to purchase a GPS device that will gather new, or further
refine our existing, GPS data points (manholes, catch basins, sewer features in backyards,
elevations for stormwater, etc.) He went out with two of the hardware providers for GPS
equipment – Lieca and TopCon – and found that the accuracies of their units are well within
specifications and well within our needs. Prices are between $16,000 and a little over $19,000 –
well within the budgeted amount of $24,000. He would like the end-users (from Public Services
and Community Development) to test these devices before we make a final selection. We are
reviewing our options regarding the necessary cellular connections and data plans. Our current
equipment is very old and has an accuracy of approximately 3’ to 6’ horizontal, with vertical
measurements being even worse. This new device will be shared by all departments.
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Atlas Training
A.Vitale reported that Fire Department personnel will receive Atlas training on Tuesday, October
18 at 9:00 a.m. The fire chief, the administrative staff, district chiefs and possibly the lieutenants
will receive training at this time. Other Fire Department employees will be trained in a future
session as is deemed necessary.
We will schedule Atlas training for the trustees when Fire Department training is completed.
Tree Inventory
At the last meeting, A.Vitale was asked to poll his colleagues and various communities regarding
the value of having a tree inventory. At this meeting, he provided a packet that includes a
summary of their responses and their actual responses.
A.Vitale noted several common themes among the responses: almost all reported greater
efficiency, a greater visualization of their maintenance activities, and several grants that could
not have been applied for without a tree inventory.
In response to questions from Trustee Przybylo, B. Pilat stated that we received a grant that
would give us enough money to do a partial tree inventory (approximately 50% of the town.)
Hopefully, the next time there is another grant cycle, we would get money to do the other half.
B. Pilat continued: Trees are considered an asset. There is greater value to a home that has
mature trees on its property than one that does not. If a storm takes down a number of trees,
there is a value associated with replacing those trees. And there are tree pests (Asian Longhorn
Beetle, Emerald Ash Borer, Maple Scale, etc.) which can affect our inventory. Over the last 20
years, we have lost trees and gained trees, but we don’t have an accurate record because we don’t
have a tree inventory. A tree inventory, as part of MMS, would allow us to catalog these losses
and gains. A.Vitale added that without a tree inventory, any work done on a tree is tied to either
an address or a parcel. With a tree inventory, the work would be tied to the asset itself.
B. Pilat noted that of all the calls for service from residents - for trees, water, sewer, streets, etc. -
trees are the # 1 request.
Mayor Callero pointed out that in order for a tree inventory to be useful, it must be maintained
and updated. Building and maintaining a tree inventory can be time-consuming and costly, so if
we can build this when the grants are coming out, it would be very beneficial. He continued that
while a tree inventory is not of the utmost importance, it is important and something that should
be developed over the years with the grants we can get.
G. VanGeem wondered what a tree inventory will mean to the taxpayer. We have gone 112
years without a high-tech system and he isn’t convinced that having one is worth the cost. He
stated that this would be another expensive program, and we don’t have that kind of money these
days. A.Vitale reminded that the grant will cover 50% of the inventory. Once the inventory is in
place, it would be part of MMS. (It was noted that the current tree count is over 15 years old,
and that the software used at that time is now obsolete so the removal and replacement of trees
has not been updated.)
G. VanGeem asked what the whole budget is for committing to a tree inventory program,
including buying whatever technology we need and hiring the person that goes out and measures
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each tree. B.Shaw answered that it is all covered as part of the grant. G. VanGeem countered,
saying that the grant only covers 50%. B. Pilat said we have a budgetary cost figure of $40,000
to complete a tree inventory. The grant that we received had some funding available in this
current cycle that would cover about 50% of the inventory. We would complete as much
inventory as the grant allows. Then we would wait for more funding to finish the grant. The
area that we have a tree inventory for would be maintained in the MMS, which we already own
so there is really no cost.
G. VanGeem stated that if it’s not our money, he’s on board. We should also look into
partnering with another municipality. Perhaps we can buy a program where we can both use the
technology. A.Vitale will contact the four towns around us and see what the state of their tree
inventories is. B. Pilat feels there would not be that much of a difference in price and that we
couldn’t partner with them because they already have tree inventories. B. Shaw suggested that it
may be easier to get funding for grants if it is more multi-jurisdictional. We should take
advantage of what we have now because it is more accepted and is in the works. We could take
advantage of this idea for the next half. A.Vitale said that we could do the rest on our own with
the new GPS equipment we purchase.
Agenda Item #3 – New Business
Sewer Infrastructure Updating (Stormwater Commission)
A.Vitale reported that late last week, Glenview provided their sewer infrastructure network. He
spent the last couple of days integrating that into our existing GIS. It is complete and is now
available on all our systems – the water and sewer atlases in PDF versions on the M drive and on
Atlas. This data includes anything regarding Glenview, North Maine, Oak Meadows Sanitary
District – anything that is touching Niles. Mayor Callero asked A.Vitale to make a specific call
to Steve Vinezeano to inform him about the data he received and its implications. This
information should help the Stormwater Committee.
A.Vitale has also placed a call to Morton Grove to get their sewer information. This is the last
village of our surrounding neighbors that he does not have existing water and sewer information
for. They were very receptive to the request. It is going through the proper channels and he
hopes to hear something by early next week. Once he gets Morton Grove’s sewer, he will be
able to confidently say that we have all surrounding communities’ water and sewer
infrastructure, at least within a certain range of our borders. Each town usually asks for their
border information in return, and we have been satisfying those requests. Again, this exchange
of information should help our Stormwater Committee.
Permit Mapping
A.Vitale stated that, per C. Ostman’s request, he has mapped out all of those permits that have
been issued since 2003 regarding flood control measures on a particular address, such as the
installation of backflow prevention valves, overhead sewers, etc. He and S. Cusick have come
up with some ideas to improve the process, which could enable us to eventually map all types of
permits, regardless of their age or their purpose. They are waiting for C. Ostman to advise how
he wants the different types of permits represented on these maps. They would come across the
same way as the flood control measures, or the maps could highlight the entire building or an
entire campus, depending on the kind of permit.
A.Vitale included in the agenda packet a copy of Atlas page #16, which shows examples of
indicators for flood control measures. C. Ostman does have this data, but now it is in a mappable
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form. C. Ostman would like people who are using the sewer atlases to know exactly where flood
control measures are, and as we gather information, it will provide a better historical record
regarding flooding and flood protection.
It was noted that garage sale permits are not currently logged into any database. A homeowner
whose right to hold a garage sale is challenged has no immediate recourse. Trustee Przybylo
suggested that we should instruct the CSO who is responding to a citizen complaint, to issue a
warning to the homeowner to get a permit and not demand a tear-down of the event.
Agenda Item #4 – Other Projects
Stormwater Commission
The Stormwater Commission asked for an impervious surface analysis and calculation. A.Vitale
provided that to C. Ostman, and S. Neukirch is working with this information. This will be
covered in future meetings.
Other Mapping Tasks
In answer to a request from Charlie Seleen (Fire Department), A.Vitale has produced a series of
fire grid response maps, also in relation to a grant request. C. Seleen also asked for some
population figures of each one of those geographical areas; A.Vitale used 2010 census
information.
The fire grid response maps show the primary, secondary and tertiary response areas for Fire
Stations 2 and 3 in relation to areas within Niles and outside of Niles in surrounding
communities.
Agenda Item #5 – Schedule Next Meeting (recommended date: November 10, 2011)
The next meeting will be Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 8:00 a.m. in the 2nd floor conference
room 218.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 a.m.
Steering Committee Members
Andrew Przybylo Trustee atp@vniles.com 847-588-8003
George Van Geem Village Manager gvg@vniles.com 847-588-8002
Bill Shaw MIS Director wfs@vniles.com 847-588-8015
Andrew Vitale MIS – Sr. GIS Coordinator ajv@vniles.com 847-588-8022
Steve Cusick MIS src@vniles.com 847-588-8018
Moses Nazzal Engineering Superintendent mhn@vniles.com 847-588-7924
Scott Jochim Public Services Director snj@vniles.com 847-588-7901
Bob Pilat Public Services rmp@vniles.com 847-588-7926
Rich Wlordarski Community Development rjw@vniles.com 847-588-8085
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Agenda
“Where People Count”
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714 Telephone (847) 588-8000 Fax (847) 588-8050
AGENDA
GIS Steering Committee Meeting
October 13, 2011
8:00 am
1. Approval of Minutes
2. Old Business – Project Updates
Maintenance Management System (MMS)
Atlas Data Correction Request
GPS Equipment Purchase
o Field Test results (See attached: GPS Product Field Comparison.pdf)
o Quotes
Atlas Training
o Fire Department attendees decided; Dates TBD
Tree Inventory
o Community responses (See attached: Tree Inventory Response Packet.pdf)
3. New Business
Sewer Infrastructure Updating (Stormwater Commission)
o Glenview Sewer Data Sharing
Permit Mapping
o Flood Control Devices (See attached: Sewer Atlas – ARCH D_16.pdf)
o All Permits
4. Other Projects
Stormwater Commission
o Impervious Surface calculation
Other mapping tasks
o Fire Grid Response Maps
5. Schedule Next Meeting (Recommended Date: November 10, 2011)