Planning and Zoning Board
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · April 5, 2010
Minutes
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION
AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
The Niles Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Kanelos asked everyone to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present along with Chairman Thomas Kanelos and Village Attorney Joseph
Annunzio were Vice-Chairman Karen Dimond, Commissioners Thomas
Surace, Barbara Nakanishi, Robert Schulter and Morgan Dubiel. Also
present was Charles Ostman, Director of Community Development and
Richard Wlodarski, Assistant Director of Community Development.
Commissioner Angelo Troiani was absent.
Chairman Kanelos stated the Board wishes Commissioner Troiani a speedy
recovery as he is recovering from a broken arm. He appointed Vice-
Chairman Dimond Acting Secretary for this evening’s meeting. He asked for
any corrections, additions or clarifications to the minutes of the March 1,
2010 meeting. There were three spelling corrections. He made a motion to
approve the “as corrected” minutes. Commissioner Dubiel moved to
approve.
Seconded by Commissioner Schulter, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Surace, Kanelos, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos announced the minutes from the February 1, 2010 which
was a seminar have been prepared but not distributed. He entertained a
motion to table those minutes until the May meeting. Vice-Chairman
Dimond moved to table the February minutes until May. Seconded by
Commissioner Dubiel, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Surace, Kanelos, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos announced that it has been the practice of the Board that
any members desiring to review the upcoming matters on the agenda would
meet with Mr. Charles Ostman, Director of Community Development, and
Mr. Richard Wlodarski, Assistant Director of Community Development, on
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VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
the day of the hearing at 1:30 P.M. The purpose of this meeting is to review
the sites and the surrounding environment to ascertain conditions which may
require special consideration at the subject hearing. Anyone wishing to
accompany the members is invited to meet at the Administration Building,
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois, prior to 1:30 P.M. They will be given
the agenda and the locations of the sites to be visited. This public
announcement is made to conform with the Open Meetings Act of the State of
Illinois and is deemed to be a public notice.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
10-ZP-05 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clearwire LLC
7600 S. County Line Rd.
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to Section IX(B)(2)(d) to install three
microwave backhaul dish antennas on an existing monopole cell
tower at 7007 N. Austin Ave., Niles, IL 60714.
10-ZP-06 Mr. John Capalnas, owner
7777 N. Caldwell Avenue
Niles, IL 60714
Requesting approval of a Special Use to V. Section 78-217(9) for the
installation of an electronic message center at 7777 N. Caldwell Ave.,
Niles, IL 60714.
10-ZP-07 Atul Karkhanis, president
Atul Karkhanis Architects, Ltd.
2514 W. Peterson Ave.
Chicago, IL 60659
Requesting approval of a Special Use to Appendix B Section VIII
(B)(3)(z) for a full service restaurant and food carryout store at 8600
W. Golf Rd. #500, Niles, IL 60714.
Chairman Kanelos called for the first item on the agenda.
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VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
10-ZP-05 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clearwire LLC
7600 S. County Line Rd.
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to Section IX(B)(2)(d) to install three
microwave backhaul dish antennas on an existing monopole cell
tower at 7007 N. Austin Ave., Niles, IL 60714.
Mr. Wlodarski came to the podium to summarize this case. Legal notice was
published in The Bugle Newspaper on March 18, 2010. All parties or
properties within 250’ have been notified. This request is for three dish
antennas to be installed on the existing Sprint equipment located on the
tower. This was reviewed by Municipal Service Associates, a consultant for
the Village of Niles for communication systems. MSA has recommended
approval for this installation. The Community Development Department has
reviewed this request and has no objections. This Board is a recommending
board to the Board of Trustees.
There were no questions from the Commissioners or the public.
Chad Gargrave, agent for Clearwire LLC stepped forward and was sworn in.
He stated this is a similar case to the one that was heard last month
regarding the site at the municipal building on Touhy. This site is at the
American Automotive Warehouse facility shown on the overhead projector. It
is an existing 100’ monopole with the Sprint antennas at the top. The
Clearwire and microwave antennas attach just above the Sprint antennas on
the same mounts. There are two other carriers besides Sprint existing there.
Chairman Kanelos stated he would like the packet the Board was given be
entered as Exhibit I.
Commissioner Schulter has a concern that the structure of the pole is also
being modified. Is it for aesthetic reasons?
Mr. Gargrave answered it is for the twist and sway of the poles. It has to be
a direct line of site. It has to transmit directly to another tower that has a
microwave. If not secure the signal can be interrupted; therefore they
strengthen the tower to minimize loss of data.
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AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
Chairman Kanelos asked if other Commissioners had any questions. There
were none. There were no questions from the public either. He entertained a
motion.Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve this motion as a Special Use
of Section IX (B)(2)(d) to install three microwave backhaul dish antennas on
an existing monopole cell tower at 7007 N. Austin Ave., Niles, IL 60714. We
have placed into the record Exhibit I as well as the comments heard tonight
deeming it is necessary for the public convenience at this particular location;
it is designed, located and proposed to be operated such that the public’s
health, safety and welfare will be protected and also that it will not cause
substantial injury to the value of other property in the neighborhood in which
it is located under no other conditions.
Seconded by Vice-Chairman Dimond,on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Surace, Kanelos, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos called for the next item on the agenda.
10-ZP-06 Mr. John Capalnas, owner
7777 N. Caldwell Avenue
Niles, IL 60714
Requesting approval of a Special Use to V. Section 78-217(9) for the
installation of an electronic message center at 7777 N. Caldwell Ave.,
Niles, IL 60714.
Mr. Wlodarski came to the podium to summarize this case. Legal notice was
published in The Bugle Newspaper on March 18, 2010. All parties or
properties within 250’ have been notified. The sign has been approved but
not yet built. If approved the electronic portion of the sign will be
incorporated within the new pylon sign. The Community Development
Department has reviewed this request and has no objections. Once again
this Board is a recommending board to the Board of Trustees.
Commissioner Dubiel said it is stated in the following “conditions” of the
packet, the text shall be uniform in monocolor. Since this is not a word in the
English dictionary should we call it monochrome to make clear it’s supposed
to be a single color?
Mr. Wlodarski said they researched and that is what they decided.
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April 5, 2010
Mr. Ostman added that the word monocolor is a term used in the industry.
Commissioner Nakanishi noted the page in her packet that shows the sign
has no page number on it. But it shows what the sign will look like
along with the dimensions of different items on it. If you look at the
dimension along the right side there is a number missing. She said it is
difficult to tell if that sign is going to be 20’ 9” high or 100’. There is another
picture of the sign in the information packet but there are no dimensions on
it.
Mr. Wlodarski stated this sign has already been approved and a permit
issued. If those numbers are incorrect, that may be what was submitted for a
Special Use portion. That was more for reference of what the sign will look
like. He is comfortable the approval meets all the zoning requirements.
Commissioner Nakanishi said she knows the Village is working on a
Comprehensive Plan regarding signs of the future. The library and Culver
School have put up LED signs. Before the Village puts up a thousand of
these signs, they might want to think about it. For her personally these signs
add to the visual pollution along with a traffic hazard.
Mr. Wlodarski answered that is what the Building and Zoning Commission is
looking into with a sign consultant. They are making final determinations of
what is and is not going to be allowed in the future. Until then they will
continue to be Special Uses.
Commissioner Schulter asked if the sign will be located on private property,
not on the utility easement portion of the property.
Mr. Wlodarski responded yes, it will be on private property.
Chairman Kanelos asked for other questions from the Board or the public.
There were none.
The petitioner, John Capalnas, stepped to the podium and was sworn in.
He feels the sign will help the company improve sales since the building is set
back quite a bit from the street.
Vice-Chairman Dimond said she sees 60’ written in the information of the
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
packet. What does the 60’ refer to? And there is another sign that is going to
be removed, correct?
Mr. Capalnas said yes, the other sign will be removed.
Mr. Ostman noted the 60’ is what determines the height of the sign. If
you take the distance to the center of the road, divide it by 2, that is the
maximum height of the sign that is permitted. So the maximum height of
this sign is 30’.
Commissioner Dubiel addressed Mr. Capalnas. You said this would benefit
the public to better help find shops in your building. You passed through
zoning so there are no safety concerns for health, safety or welfare concerns.
You own the entire property from end to end. Do you think the sign would
offend the neighbors?
Mr. Capalnas stated yes to the first two issues. On the last question he said
the building is far enough away from the neighbors so it would not cause any
inconvenience.
Commissioner Dubiel asked the Chair to allow the packet given for this
application to be read into the record as Exhibit I.
Chairman Kanelos stated yes. He also wants to be clear regarding the height
of the sign. That has already been approved by the Village and even though
he may not agree, it is not for this Board’s concern tonight.
Commissioner Dubiel said Commissioner Nakanishi mentioned some
important issues and that the Village as a whole should be concerned about
this type of sign.
Vice-Chairman Dimond addressed Mr. Capalnas and said there has been a
recommendation that we approve this with certain conditions. Those
conditions are that it has to have an automatic dimmer, solar sensors to
control brightness for nighttime viewing. Do you object to putting those on
the sign? The message board shall not have any flashing, scintilla-ting,
chasing or animated lights or animated pictures. You can only use one color
on the sign.
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
Mr. Capalnas said he would abide by all conditions.
Chairman Kanelos asked why this sign is necessary for the public
convenience at this location.
Mr. Capalnas answered they do have a nice 20,000 sq. ft. showroom, one of
the nicest flooring showrooms in Illinois. Most neighbors that walk
into the store didn’t know this nice of a store is located there. You can’t
see much because the windows are far from the street. The sign will
help. There are no competitors close that are of that size. People passing by
still think the building is industrial or like the Kraft building used to be.
Commissioner Dimond asked Messrs. Ostman and Wlodarski a question
regarding the location of the sign. It is commercial property along Caldwell
but is there any residential property that would be affected.
Mr. Ostman answered not at all.
Commissioner Nakanishi asked if the sign would be illuminated twenty-four
hours. If so, she would probably see it from her house.
Mr. Capalnas said yes.
Commissioner Dubiel said the nits (brightness) go down at night. This is
stated in the packet.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any other questions from the
Commissioners or from the public. There were none. He entertained a
motion.
Vice-Chairman Dimond made a motion with several conditions. First, the
messages on the sign be provided with an automatic dimmer to control
brightness for nighttime viewing; lighting from the message center shall not
exceed a maximum of 5,000 nits during daylight hours and 500 nits between
dusk and dawn. Another condition is the messages shall not consist of
flashing, scintillating, chasing or animated lights including animated
pictorial graphics. Finally, the text shall be uniform and in monocolor or in
other words, in a single color. She made this motion along with the
suggestion we find this Special Use is necessary for public convenience and it
will enable the public to find this facility. Also, the sign should be designed
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April 5, 2010
and located so the public’s health, safety and welfare will be protected. We
already know it is going to be located farther from the street and we also
know, based on the motion being made, that the nits (brightness) will be
decreased at night so not to annoy people who may see it from their homes.
She said we also have to find it will not cause substantial injury to the value
of other property in the neighborhood in that the other neighborhood
properties are also commercial and unlikely to be negatively affected by the
sign. Therefore she made the motion that the Board approve the Special
Use with those conditions and findings.
Seconded by Commissioner Dubiel, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Surace, Kanelos, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos called for the final item on the agenda.
10-ZP-07 Atul Karkhanis, president
Atul Karkhanis Architects, Ltd.
2514 W. Peterson Ave.
Chicago, IL 60659
Requesting approval of a Special Use to Appendix B Section VIII
(B)(3)(z) for a full service restaurant and food carryout store at 8600
W. Golf Rd. #500, Niles, IL 60714.
Mr. Wlodarski returned to the podium to summarize this case. Legal notice
was published in The Bugle Newspaper on March 18, 2010. Letters were
mailed out to all properties within 250’ of the subject property. This Special
Use request is to open a Papa John’s Pizza restaurant. It will be strictly a
carry-out only along with deliveries. The name of the strip center is Shops on
Golf. It has been reviewed by the Community Development Department and
there are no parking issues. There will actually be eight extra spaces
available per the zoning ordinance if this is approved. Community
Development has no objections to this request. Once again this Board is a
recommending board to the Board of Trustees.
Commissioner Dubiel mentioned that previously there was a Giordano’s
Pizza in this mall. Is this the same type of restaurant?
Mr. Wlodarski said that Giordano’s was a sit-down family restaurant that
took up two or three spaces located in that strip center.
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April 5, 2010
Commissioner Dubiel reiterated this is just carry-out and delivery. Are there
enough spaces for delivery vehicles?
Mr. Wlodarski answered according to the petitioner (and he will explain his
operation) there is sufficient space for vehicles. There is no concern for space
for vehicles.
Commissioner Schulter said the description is full-service restaurant.
Doesn’t that mean people will be eating inside? The fire chief has no
concerns regarding delivery vehicles parked in front of the store in the way of
emergency vehicles, is that correct?
Mr. Wlodarski said that is the way it is worded in the ordinance but this
specific restaurant is not going to be full service. It is going to be carry-out
and delivery only. The delivery vehicles won’t be able to park in the fire lane;
they have to park in a parking place.
Commissioner Nakanishi noticed there is only one toilet room there. Is there
no requirement for two?
Mr. Wlodarski answered it does meet the state plumbing code.
Commissioner Dubiel clarified Commissioner Schulter’s question. The
waiting area looks like there is no room for interior seating, is that correct?
Mr. Wlodarski stated correct.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were other questions from the Board or the
public. There were none. At that time he asked the petitioner to step
forward.
Ani Tipnis, representative for Atul Karkhanis Architects, Ltd., was sworn in.
Standing at the podium with him was Howard E. Pattis, president of
Pinnacle Real Estate, Inc., landlord of the center. Mr. Tipnis said the
franchisee operates about thirty Papa John’s restaurants in six states. They
want to come into the northern Chicago area, such as Niles, Waukegan and
Evanston. They want to reach people with a household income of
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
approximately $90,000 which equals roughly 350,000 people over a five mile
radius. The peak hours would be from 4:30 to 7:30 p.m. daily but they would
be open for delivery and carryout until 1:00 a.m. daily. There would not be
more than five employees at any given time in the store.
Commissioner Dubiel requested the packet given to the Board be admitted to
the record as Exhibit I for this application. He asked Mr. Tipnis if he
expected to meet any health, safety and welfare code issues. Since this is
already a mall and the restaurant is replacing a former pizza place it does not
affect the property or location negatively, correct?
Mr. Tipnis said his company submitted the drawings last week and yes,
they plan to meet all code issues and no, it does not negatively affect the
property.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked if there is a difference in the parking
requirements for a carryout restaurant versus a sit down restaurant.
Mr. Wlodarski replied for a carryout, parking is one for every 100 sq. ft. of
floor area; for a sit down type of restaurant it goes by the amount of seats.
They exceed the amount of parking required.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions from the
Commissioners or the public. There were none. He entertained a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved that the Board approve the Special Use
because it has met the standards for Special Use. Both statements have been
read into the record as well as Exhibit I. It has been established it is
necessary for the public convenience; it is designed, located and proposed to
be operated as such that the public’s health, safety and welfare will be
protected; and it will not cause substantial injury to the value of other
property in the neighborhood where it is located.
Seconded by Commissioner Surace, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Kanelos, Surace, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
At this time, Chairman Kanelos entertained a motion to adjourn.
Vice-Chairman Dimond moved to adjourn.
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AND ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
VILLAGE OF NILES
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
April 5, 2010
Seconded by Commissioner Dubiel, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dubiel, Schulter, Nakanishi, Kanelos, Surace, Dimond
NAYS: 0
ABSENT: 1 Troiani
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Kathleen Janessa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
“Where People Count”
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714
Telephone (847) 588-8000 ● Fax (847) 588-8051 ● TDD (847) 588-8059
Mayor
Robert M. Callero AGENDA
PLAN COMMISSION & ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Trustees MONDAY, APRIL 5TH , 2010 7:00 p.m.
Chris Hanusiak
James T. Hynes
Joe LoVerde CALL TO ORDER
Louella B. Preston
Andrew Przybylo PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Alan Weel
Village Manager
ROLL CALL
George R. Van Geem
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Village Clerk
Marlene J. Victorine Regular Meeting – March 1st, 2010
ANNOUNCEMENTS
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
10-ZP-05 Mr. Chad Gargrave, agent
Clearwire LLC
7600 S County Line Rd
Burr Ridge, IL 60527
Requesting a Special Use to section IX (B)(2)(d) to install three microwave backhaul dish
antennas on an existing monopole cell tower at 7007 N Austin Ave., Niles, IL 60714
10-ZP-06 Mr. John Capalnas, owner
7777 North Caldwell Avenue
Niles, IL 60714
Requesting approval of a Special Use to V. Section 78-217 (9) for the installation of an
electronic message center at 7777 N Caldwell Ave., Niles, IL 60714
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The Village of Niles will comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act by making reasonable accommodations for people with disabilities. If you or
someone you know with a disability require accommodation for a Village service or have any questions about the Village’s compliance, please contact
George R. Van Geem, Village Manager, 1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois at (847) 588-8000.
www.vniles.com
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10-ZP-07 Atul Karkhanis, president
Atul Karkhanis Architects, Ltd.
2514 W Peterson Ave.
Chicago, IL 60659
Requesting approval of a Special Use to Appendix B Section VIII (B)(3)(z) for a full service restaurant and
food carryout store at 8600 W. Golf Rd. #500, Niles, IL 60714
ADJOURNMENT