Planning and Zoning Board
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · March 3, 2014
Minutes
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COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
March 3, 2014
The Niles Plan Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals were called to order
at 7:01 P.M.
Chairman Kanelos asked everyone to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present along with Chairman Thomas Kanelos was Vice-Chairman Karen
Dimond, Commissioners Thomas Surace, Angelo Troiani, Barbara Nakanishi,
Robert Schulter and Morgan Dubiel. Also present was Richard Wlodarski,
Assistant Director of Community Development and Bruce Sylvester, Senior
Planner.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any additions, clarifications or
corrections to the minutes of February 3, 2014. There were none.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve the minutes of February 3, 2014.
Seconded by Commissioner Surace, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 6 Dimond, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter, Dubiel, Kanelos
NAYS: 0
PASS: 1 Surace
There being six (6) affirmative votes the motion carried.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
March 10th joint meeting of the Plan Commission/Zoning Board of Appeals
and the Building and Zoning Committee – 6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers
NEW BUSINESS
14-ZP-4 Reconsideration of a Request for approval of “Parking
Credits” to allow a hair salon business at 7934 West
Oakton Street, Niles, Illinois 60714
14-ZP-9 Requesting approval of a Plat of Subdivision at 8409
Shermer Road, Niles, Illinois 60714 as provided in
Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i)
14-ZP-10 Requesting approval of a Plat of Consolidation at 7449-
7501 Natchez Avenue, Niles, Illinois 60714 as provided in
Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i)
WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
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14-ZP-11 Requesting approval of a Special Use Permit per
Appendix B Section VIII(B)(3)(hh) for an ‘e-cigarette’
kiosk at Golf Mill Mall located at 239 Golf Mill Center,
Niles, Illinois 60714
WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
14-ZP-12 Requesting a parking variation per Appendix B Section
XI(E) and a Special Use Permit per Appendix B Sections
VIII(C)(3)(a); VIII(B)(3)(z); and VIII(B)(3)(tt) for a
restaurant with drive-up window facilities and menu-
board signage at 9102 North Milwaukee Avenue, Niles,
Illinois 60714
Chairman Kanelos called for the first item on the agenda. He stated most of
the audience was here for this case. He asked that each person that has a
comment speak one time only until everyone is heard. After everyone has
spoken one may speak again if they have something new to add. Please try to
refrain from repeating. The Board will stay as long as necessary.
14-ZP-4 Reconsideration of a Request for approval of “Parking
Credits” to allow a hair salon business at 7934 West
Oakton Street, Niles, Illinois 60714
Bruce Sylvester, Senior Planner, presented the case. This item was first
reviewed and discussed at the January, 2014 meeting. At that meeting the
owners of the proposed salon requested eight hair stations and parking
credits would be necessary to accommodate that request. At that time, there
were six commissioners present and the vote was split – 3 ayes and 3 nays. It
went to the Village Board meeting for further discussion. That Board
referred it back to this Board for further consideration. Notices were once
again sent to residents in the area. Since then the business owners revised
their proposal. They are now willing to accept a seven station salon. Staff’s
recommendation has not changed. They still feel parking is inadequate at
this location. The zoning ordinance requires businesses to have off street
parking. This location has only fifteen off street stalls located behind the
building accessible from the alley. [The overhead projector is showing an
overview of the property.] There is additional parking on the street within
the public right of way. That would be eight to the west, five to the east and
approximately nine along the front on Oakton. To meet this business’ needs
along with the needs of the other tenants Staff believes they need sixty-two
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stalls. Only fifteen off street stalls exist. Section X(b)(10)(nn) of the
ordinance reads credits may be given against Village requirements whenever
it can be demonstrated that by virtue of peculiar operating characteristics of
a group of different owned uses, joint utilization of off street parking spaces
will not result in a parking deficiency for any particular uses. That’s what
needs to be found in order to grant parking credits.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were questions from the Commissioners for
Mr. Sylvester.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked how they arrived at the number of three
stations in the salon, as opposed to seven or eight.
Mr. Sylvester said past practice states when there is a parking issue like this
for a barber shop or a beauty salon, three stations is what is allowed.
Commissioner Dubiel asked if there is some statistical analysis that came up
with three stations.
Richard Wlodarski, Assistant Director of Community Development, said it
started between two and four years ago during the economic crises. A lot of
people who lost jobs wanted to open businesses in order to make money.
After some of these businesses opened, the Department took a closer look and
decided three seemed to be a good number. It has worked well when there
are three or less stations. This holds true for a barber shop, beauty salon,
nail salon, foot massage and anything that has a station and a service. They
tend to be in smaller strip centers with limited parking. If there was a
request for more stations, they would have to come before this Board and
request parking credits. There was no parking study done. The ordinance
has been three parking stalls per station. It has worked so far.
Commissioner Dubiel asked how they came up with the number of parking
spots in front of the building along Oakton. He also asked what types of
businesses are in this strip area.
At this time there was discussion about how stalls are measured and striped.
Since the spaces here are not striped, people don’t park very efficiently.
Mr. Sylvester stated the businesses located at this center.
7956 – Northwest Podiatry Center
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7954 – CA Income Tax
7952 – Schwan Electric
7948 – Jamestown Glass & Mirror
7946 – State Farm Insurance Agency
7942 – Family Dentistry
7940 – Faller Insurance
7936 – Dr. Craig Iorio DC
7934 – Proposed Salon
There is no parking available behind 7956 or 7954. There are two spaces
behind each of the businesses at 7952, 7948 and 7946. Behind 7936 are four
spaces. Behind 7942, five spaces. These would be single car in, but they
could be doubled up at some spots. The vacant space is at 7934 with a
residence behind it. He stated this entire property is under parked.
Commissioner Dubiel asked if 7934 met the conditions of blight as has been
discussed at prior meetings referring to areas where there are vacancies.
Mr. Sylvester said yes.
Commissioner Schulter is Staff knew how long 7934 had actually been a
beauty salon before the most recent one closed.
Mr. Wlodarski said two to four years, but they only had three chairs.
Chairman Kanelos asked if striping would increase the number of spots.
He also asked if this would meet another goal of the 2030 Comprehensive
Plan as in maintaining and strengthening the Village’s tax base with the
attraction and retention of business. Also, seek an appropriate mix of
commercial and retail uses throughout the Village – would it meet those
criteria?
Mr. Sylvester said striping would cause people to park more efficiently. And
yes, it would meet both goals.
There was much more discussion between Commissioner Dubiel and Mr.
Sylvester about the actual number of parking spots all the way around the
building. This was done while observing the overhead picture of the
property. In Mr. Sylvester’s observation driving by he has not seen all the
parking spaces filled. Chairman Kanelos said in his experience of driving by
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almost daily he has never seen it filled either.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions for the
Commissioners from the public.
Anthony Fidanza, 8125 N. Elmore, Niles, IL 60714 came to the podium and
was sworn in. He is a retired Deputy Chief of Police of the Village of Niles.
He’s lives near the property in question and has driven by there for thirty
years as a policeman. He has not seen it fully parked.
There were no more questions from the public.
The petitioners were then called to the podium by Chairman Kanelos.
Laura Micki, 1134 N. Delphia, Park Ridge, IL 60068, Mark Micki, 1134 N.
Delphia, Park Ridge, IL 60068 and Rosalba Karras, 2207 E. Hunter,
Arlington Heights, IL 60004 stepped forward and were sworn in.
Jack Achille, 8454 Chester, Niles, IL 60714 also stepped forward and was
sworn in.
Mark Micki thanked everyone in the audience for coming to the meeting to
show their support along with the Commissioners. They really want to make
this work. There was a lot of discussion about how many parking spots there
are. This portion of the meeting went on for approximately thirty minutes.
He said he had similar examples of identical businesses in Niles that have
parking issues and they are not required to conform to the parking
restrictions. Their family business has had eight stations for the past twenty-
two years at their current location in Morton Grove. He presented sixteen
picture boards, each with multiple pictures, of the parking areas around this
entire location at 7934 West Oakton Street.
Chairman Kanelos asked that the picture boards be entered as Exhibit I.
The petitioners then walked the picture boards around to each of the
Commissioners and explained the date stamp and location of each picture.
Rosalba Karras explained more about how she took pictures at various times
on various days to get a true feeling of how many cars were parked at this
site and what times were the heaviest.
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Laura Micki said the figures on the spread sheet shown on the overhead are
not the same figures they submitted to the Planning & Zoning Department.
Once again lengthy discussions ongoing about parking spaces and how many
cars are parked there during regular business hours.
Mrs. Micki said she was involved in preparing the spread sheet but the
numbers on the overhead do not look familiar to her. She went to retrieve
the original copy of the spread sheet from her car.
Mr. Micki asked if he could finish talking about other salons in Niles that
have limited parking. One is Déjà Vu, 8024 N. Milwaukee Ave. They have
six stations in the salon. They have three parking spaces. Hair by Tina,
8040 N. Milwaukee Ave. It is a six station salon; they have two parking
spaces. Mona’s Studio, 8052 N. Milwaukee Ave., is a five station salon and
they have two parking spots. Capello & Co., 8141 N. Milwaukee Ave., is a
five station salon with three parking spots. He has photographs of all the
salons that have fewer than three spots per chair. These are entered as
Exhibit B.
Chairman Kanelos received the original spread sheet.
Commissioner Dubiel asked what time they open on weekdays.
Mrs. Micki answered 9:00 a.m. They arrive between 8 and 8:30. There would
be two employees and maybe two patrons, so maybe four cars around 9:00
a.m.
There was discussion about the spread sheet figures and how many cars
would be there on weekdays, weekends, certain times of the day and of course
Friday and Saturday would be the heaviest traffic.
The women said they also have older clients that get dropped off by a spouse,
caretaker or taxi.
Mr. Micki said he mentioned to Staff before the January meeting about the
other similar businesses in Niles that have parking issues but did not have to
go through all this because of it. He has pictures of those businesses as well.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked if Staff acted on that.
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Mr. Micki said he was told they would look into it.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were more questions for the petitioners
from the Commissioners. There were none. He then invited the public to
come forward if they have anything to add to this.
The following residents were sworn in and spoke:
Jack Achille, 8454 Chester, Niles, IL 60714 said he has had no problem
parking there.
Julie Stinnett, 2021 Woodland Ave., Park Ridge, IL 60068 said she is a
business woman who dealt with Special Printing which used to occupy a
space in the area in question. She never had any trouble parking there or
has seen twenty-five cars parked there.
Kathleen Sullivan, 8100 N. Elmore, Niles, IL 60714 said she feels this
business would be an asset to the Village.
Commissioner Troiani said he lives at 8012 N. Merrill. He has never been
able to find a parking spot in front of this center on Oakton. He doesn’t want
to see this business make a mistake and spend money when they won’t have
clients that are able to get in there because of no available parking.
The following additional residents stepped to the podium and were sworn in.
Julia Guarnaccio, 8015 Wisner St., Niles, IL 60714 lives around the corner
from the proposed beauty salon. She said she can’t walk the distance to the
dentist in that center; she has to take the car. She cannot find a parking spot
without going around three times. She puts up people parking in front of her
house that go to this center since 1959.
Anthony Guarnaccio, 8015 Wisner St., Niles, IL 60714 spoke next. He is
legally blind but his wife, Julia, read his prepared statement about this issue.
He thanked the Zoning Board for considering the people on Wisner Street
regarding the parking problem. He wants the Board to keep the Niles motto
“where people count” in mind when resolving this. No one wants to park on
Oakton because of the traffic so they park in front of the residences on
Wisner.
Chris Stinnett, 2021 Woodland Ave., Park Ridge, IL 60068 said he is the
owner of a landscaping/brick paver company and drives up and down Oakton
several times a day, six days a week. There are never more than a couple of
cars there. He installed the brick pavers in front of this center many years
ago. There was no parking issue then and he doesn’t see one now.
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Carmen Marin, 7910 W. Oakton St., Niles, IL 60714. She is two houses east
of the beauty salon. The reason why there are so few cars parked on Oakton
is because everyone who comes to the beauty salon parks on Wisner. She has
lived there twenty years. When parking is too congested on Wisner, people
then move to the next corner on Elmore to park. She continued about the
hardship this would present.
Chairman Kanelos asked if Niles puts up signs in front of homes of people
with special needs, such as Mr. Guarnaccio who is legally blind.
Mr. Wlodarski answered this would have to go through the Village Manager’s
office and the Public Service Department would provide signage if needed
somewhere. An ordinance would have to be passed to create that signage.
Commissioner Dubiel said the photos show the parking area for the business
on Wisner to be full of snow.
Mr. Micki said it is still full of snow. He said if this passes he will take care
of the snow removal for that area and also the Washington side of the center
as well. He is trying to make this a win-win solution. He presented more
pictures of homes and driveways at Elmore and Oakton. These pictures were
entered as Exhibit C.
Commissioner Troiani said the Board has to protect the people who are
trying to open this business as well as the people of the Village of Niles.
The residents do not own the street parking in front of their houses. It
belongs to the Village.
Chairman Kanelos said it seems if there is going to be a problem, it’s going to
be on the homes closest to Oakton. If you live near a park in Niles and there
are baseball games all summer, parking is horrible then, but it is part of that
situation. You can’t say to the Park District don’t have ballgames.
Dave Noggle, 2112 Woodland Ave., Park Ridge, IL 60068 came to the podium
and was sworn in. He is a small business owner. He asked if there was an
official survey done to determine exactly how many parking spaces there are.
Chairman Kanelos said if petitioners want a parking study, it falls on the
petitioner to do that study. Tonight we have an estimate based on the Village
but there are probably more parking spaces than the Village estimates. But
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it still doesn’t meet the current requirement and that is why the petitioners
are looking for a variance.
Mr. Noggle asked if the spread sheet shows exactly how many parking spots
they need. Is there an ordinance that says three per station?
Mr. Wlodarski said yes, there is an ordinance. It is for barber shops and
beauty shops.
Mr. Noggle said he is not sure if the petitioner is really asking for more
spaces. He only needs twelve spaces and it seems there is enough.
He wanted to know if the landlord was in attendance.
Chairman Kanelos answered no but she was at the January meeting.
Mr. Noggle asked if the rent supports three stations. He doesn’t think it does
and that is why there are asking for more stations. This Board is going to
come to this same issue again no matter who goes in there. Thank you.
The recording secretary did not get the name of the next lady who spoke but
she lives at 2100 Woodland Ave., Park Ridge, IL 60068. She was sworn in.
Where she lives in Park Ridge the exact same thing is playing out. She lives
around the corner from a strip mall. It is constant parking in front of her
house. She doesn’t want to take business away from anyone. She is
disappointed that people complain about the parking when it is public
property.
Chairman Kanelos said the Board is here to try to figure out what will work
for the most people involved. The citizens of Niles have every right to
complain about this even if he disagrees with them.
Dr. Craig Iorio, 7936 W. Oakton St., Niles, IL 60714 came forward and was
sworn in. He is a chiropractor and has been at this location for twenty-six
years. He does not think there is a problem right now. The best way to see
how many parking spots on Oakton there are is when there are cars there.
You can get maybe ten cars there but no way can you get fifteen cars there
and still have room to pull out. He went on to explain parking on
Washington about how many cars can fit. He feels it is a system that works
now. There has always been a beauty shop at the corner of this location. He
thinks eight stations [now seven] could be a problem. Whatever the Board
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decides is fine but he wanted to give his opinion.
Chairman Kanelos said in the back there is a lot of snow piled up taking
valuable parking spaces. Does that cause some of the problem in the winter?
Dr. Iorio said it is definitely a problem. Every person is responsible for
clearing their own snow. They tried years ago to get something pulled
together for cleaning snow and it always fell apart. Everyone is responsible
for cleaning their own front and back. You can’t push the snow over to your
neighbors. You put it wherever you can.
Dr. Iorio summed up by saying the Zoning Dept. has always made good
decisions when it comes to this location when other things have been brought
to their attention in the past. He said every person is responsible for
cleaning the snow in front and behind their particular business. There is no
association with the tenants to do this together. There have been at least
three beauty shops. They do come and go. Seven chairs mean at least twenty
cars. He is basing it on spread sheets, not on photographs. The area cannot
support that many cars. If the three vacant spaces in the center get filled
that means more cars.
Commissioner Schulter asked if the Washington St. side of the building has
been plowed yet.
Dr. Iorio said he wasn’t sure. Three or four stores to the west have one
owner, another owner in the middle then a third on the east side of the strip.
He would think the owner of the west part of the building would have some
responsibility in moving the snow. It is nothing personal about this business
opening; just wants to work on the problem of parking.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions from the public for
the Board.
Dr. Gary Lamantia, DDS, 7942 W. Oakton St., Niles, IL 60714 came to the
podium and was sworn in. He has been at this location for twenty-nine
years. There is an issue with snow and plowing. The snow is plowed high on
Oakton so it is hard for a passenger to get out. That is why parking is light
on Oakton this time of year. It is a safety issue. There are other people
beside the businesses that park there. They might carpool. There is a lot of
in and out traffic in front on Oakton. In his experience the parking has been
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workable with difficulty. There are currently three empty units on the block
and no one wants to see that. We welcome new business to the area. He said
Chairman Kanelos summed it up when he said the Board is not there to
protect only the residents and businesses. He feels a minimum of seven
chairs would bring twenty cars and that area cannot support it. He feels the
Zoning Department and Development Department have done a great job over
the years with this location. But Staff made a recommendation and he feels
they should avail themselves to this recommendation.
Chairman Kanelos said he personally believes if a business owner goes into a
place of business where they can’t make a living that is their problem. He
said if there is so much trouble with the parking, why is there so much snow
piled? Who is responsible to clean it up? He knows the dentist doesn’t have
the answers but doesn’t understand if parking is such a problem, why isn’t
the snow removed so they can utitilize all the parking stalls.
Dr. Lamantia said that from the last meeting he understands each building
owner is responsible for his own property. This winter has been
overwhelming with snow; there is just nowhere to go with it.
Commissioner Dubiel asked the business owners if all seven chairs would be
in use constantly.
Mrs. Micki answered that all chairs would only be used on Saturday.
Everyone there works part-time so the other days there would be
approximately three or four stations in use at the same time.
Mr. Fidanza spoke again. He does feel for the people complaining about the
residential parking. But as Commissioner Troiani said there is no special
residential parking in the Village of Niles. His mother lives at 8350
Greenwood and people from Lutheran General park up and down that street.
The police do side with the citizens if cars are blocking driveways or alleys;
but it is a free country and people can park where they want. It’s
unfortunate when you live around a business but that’s just how it is.
Everybody that comes to this town counts, not just the residents.
Luella Preston, 9267 N. Maryland, Niles, Illinois came to the podium and was
sworn in. She used to be a member of the Planning and Zoning Commission
and was also a trustee. She has always respected the Staff report and
usually accepted their opinion. In the January minutes it states “Staff
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recommends these parking credits be denied due to a severe shortage of
parking in this commercial strip center located between Washington and
Wisner on the north side of Oakton.” As Mr. Sylvester summarized the
center provides only 30% of the required off street parking stalls as required
by the Village of Niles. She is familiar with the area and has gone by the
area numerous times including this afternoon [March 3]. There were no
parking spaces available at 7952 because it is filled with snow in the back.
Same with 7948. There is another space filled with snow so that eliminates
five spaces in the back. In front there is still snow and ice since the plows
can’t get all the way to the curb. Traffic on Oakton moves quickly and it is
not easy to parallel park there. She wondered if Staff had statistics about
the percentage of required parking for six chairs, five chairs, four chairs, etc.
She would like the Commissioners to look at the facts and she supports the
Staff’s recommendation.
Dr. Lamantia came to the podium again. He is not opposed to a business
locating in that space but it should be reasonable. He said he lives near a
park and understands that means putting up with ballgames and the like;
but if the park wanted to add a roller coaster that would not be reasonable.
This situation is similar in that a business should be allowed but not one that
will create parking problems.
Mrs. Guarnaccio spoke once more. She is not opposed to having a beauty
salon at the location. She is concerned about the people being there all day
long and then she can’t park in front of her own home. But she does wish
them good luck in their business.
Mr. Micki said they just want to be good neighbors. He wanted to let the
doctors know that he cares about their clients as well as his own. They will
not take up prime parking locations. He is looking to rent a few parking
spots for his staff farther west at the vacant electric company.
Vice-Chairman Dimond asked if a condition of approval could be requiring
employees to park further away from the business.
Mr. Wlodarski said this is not a variance; it is a request for parking credits.
It is unclear if there could be a condition attached to it and the Village
Attorney is not at this meeting for clarification.
Mr. Sylvester said this is not a request for Special Use.
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Chairman Kanelos said there were no more comments. He then entertained
a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved to approve the reconsideration of a
request for “Parking Credits” per Section X(B)(10)(nn) to allow a hair salon
business at 7934 West Oakton Street, Niles, Illinois 60714. The finding of
facts have been heard and demonstrated that by virtue of the peculiar
operating characteristics of group of different land uses and joint
utilization for off street parking spaces will not result in a parking deficiency
for any particular uses. The applicant has provided detailed data to support
the information documenting this proposed parking credit. He added a
condition that employees do not park on Wisner. Also a condition that the
petitioner will clear the snow.
Seconded by Commissioner Schulter, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 5 Dimond, Surace, Schulter, Dubiel, Kanelos
NAYS: 2 Troiani, Nakanishi,
There being five (5) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos added this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this decision. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the
date. Anyone in the audience who would like to be informed as to the date
this will be heard by the Board of Trustees, leave your name and address
with the recording secretary.
Chairman Kanelos called for the second item on the agenda
14-ZP-9 Requesting approval of a Plat of Subdivision at 8409
Shermer Road, Niles, Illinois 60714 as provided in
Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i)
Mr. Sylvester said this request is for the northeast corner of Shermer Road
and Main Street. The overhead photograph is on the screen. This is an
undeveloped parcel surrounded by other platted lots occupied by single family
homes. Staff recommends approval. It would also have to be approved by the
Village Board. George Cahill has submitted this proposal to subdivide this
parcel into four lots. The zoning currently is residential and his intention is
to build four single family homes. Staff believes this would comply with the
Village’s Comprehensive Plan. Part of the plan is to provide for desirable
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housing; a vision statement to provide quality residential neighborhoods; also
a goal to promote residential development; also a plan to accommodate
residential renovation and redevelopment through an expedient and flexible,
yet thorough, permitted process. The zoning on this parcel is R2. The
proposed lots in this subdivision do meet all the requirements in the Village’s
zoning ordinance for R2 district. The right of way for Main Street is not very
wide and the Village request that land be dedicated for right of way in
development. Staff has asked the applicant to agree to dedicate right of way
along Main St. His property would be reduced in size and Main Street right
of way increased. The right of way is just the public land, not the pavement.
The plan is to widen Main Street pavement to maintain it as a
one way street. The area north of Main Street and east of Shermer had been
platted as a cemetery many years ago. The subject property was included in
that area. There has been no evidence that this area was ever used for
burials. The fire and police departments have no comments regarding the
proposal. Engineering had technical comments that are included in the Staff
packet. Findings of fact said the one house on the property will be
demolished and developed with four new homes. It accomplishes several
goals of the Village’s 2030 Comprehensive Plan. The parcels will comply with
all applicable zoning requirements regarding lot size.
Chairman Kanelos asked where you go to determine if there were burials
there.
Mr. Sylvester said he and Mr. Ostman went to the Cook County Recorder’s
office and went through old plat books. There was nothing that showed it
was ever used for burials. They also went through old aerial pictures looking
for gravestones. Other areas further north and east do show up as having
gravestones.
Commissioner Troiani asked if anyone paid attention to garages or off street
parking for this area. Will there be room for four houses when you start
adding driveways.
Mr. Sylvester said at this point they are only reviewing the plat to create
parcels. The lots meet the minimum requirements for the zoning district.
They are large enough to accommodate a house and a garage.
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Vice-Chairman Dimond asked why it wasn’t developed like the rest of the
land around it.
Mr. Sylvester said he did not know. The home on the site was most likely the
caretaker’s home for the cemetery. Possibly for that reason the owner never
wanted to sell.
Commissioner Dubiel said there was information missing from the packet
regarding the engineering report. This isn’t the first time information has
been missing and it is really important they get all the facts.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions for Mr. Sylvester
from the Commissioners. There were none. He then called the petitioner to
the stand.
David Cahill, Cahill Builders, owner of the property, was sworn in.
George Cahill, attorney for the petitioner, 6041 W. Montrose, Chicago IL
60634 did not need to be sworn in.
George Cahill explained to Vice-Chairman Dimond the right of way proposed
to the Village was all trees. The surveyor said the gentleman who lived on
the property planted those trees in the right of way so the Village couldn’t
take the road from him. He then explained to Commissioner Troiani there
are three interior lots just shy of 60 ft. wide. There is plenty of room for a
driveway and a garage. He made sure there was nothing in the history of
these four lots about burials. There was a functioning cemetery farther
north, next to the animal hospital on Waukegan Rd., that had headstones.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions from the
Commissioners or the public.
Mort Skidelsky, 7550 Kostner, Skokie, IL came forth and was sworn in.
He clarified that he spent several years reviewing the Morton Grove/Niles
Jewish cemeteries. The whole area from Main Street to what had been
Shermer Park was one big cemetery. This is Lot 7 of the subdivision of the
cemetery. There is a plat of survey in the Recorder’s office of the entire
cemetery. There were eleven lots. Most of the cemetery had not been
developed. The Village might want to vacate the cemetery. Strong indication
in his research says the reason Lot 7 was not picked up for development
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along with the other parcels was because there were paupers’ graves in this
area. It was done according to Jewish tradition at the time. There were no
vaults, no caskets – buried in shrouds. It is very hard to determine a grave
today. There was a problem years ago on Hamilton Drive where there were
graves disturbed by construction. He was involved in preserving surrounding
burial areas. He doesn’t have all the plats with him tonight.
Commissioner Schulter asked how they can agree to vacate a cemetery if they
don’t know for sure if there are burials there.
Chairman Kanelos asked Mr. Sylvester what problems could arise if during
the course of excavation there are remains found.
Mr. Sylvester said he believes there are laws that work needs to stop if
remains are found. Certain rules fall into place. Mr. Sylvester spoke with
Mr. Annunzio, Village Attorney, and was advised that if there is no concrete
evidence there are remains, the Village is not in a position to deny this
request.
Mr. Cahill said it was never platted as a cemetery. If you look at the tract
book it was sold to a cemetery association with a subsequent transfer a year
later. Also, the Bach family has owned the property since 1939. There was
also a sort of barn behind the house as well.
The builder is aware if he comes upon human remains during development
he has to follow a legal process.
Chairman Kanelos asked Mr. Skidelsky if he opposes this request or if he is
being precautionary.
Mr. Skidelsky stated he feels it is a cemetery. He thinks it would be best if it
was not developed.
Commissioner Schulter said if there is no evidence people are buried there
then the Board would have to approve it. If the developer finds something,
he has to report it and go through a legal process with the state.
There was lengthy discussion between Mr. Skidelsky and the Commissioners
about the definition of Lot 7 being used as a burial ground.
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March 3, 2014
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any more questions from the
Commissioners or the public. There were none. He entertained a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel recommended the Village Board approve Plat of
Subdivision entitled Woodland Estates 8409 Shermer Road, Niles, Illinois
60714 as provided in Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i).
Seconded by Commissioner Schulter, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter, Dubiel,
Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos added this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this decision. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the
date. Anyone in the audience who would like to be informed as to the date
this will be heard by the Board of Trustees, leave your name and address
with the recording secretary.
Chairman Kanelos called for the final item on the agenda.
14-ZP-12 Requesting a parking variation per Appendix B Section
XI(E) and a Special Use Permit per Appendix B Sections
VIII(C)(3)(a); VIII(B)(3)(z); and VIII(B)(3)(tt) for a
restaurant with drive-up window facilities and menu-
board signage at 9102 North Milwaukee Avenue, Niles,
Illinois 60714
Mr. Sylvester presented the final item. This is a property that was
previously occupied by Pizza Hut Restaurant. The applicants are proposing
to convert it into a Hardee’s Restaurant that would have a drive-thru facility.
Staff recommends to approve. This request is for a Special Use permit for a
seventy-five seat restaurant with drive-up window facilities. That includes
menu board and signage. The parking on the site is less than what the
ordinance would normally require. Therefore the applicant is requesting a
parking variation. Staff is recommending approval for that with two
conditions: 1) A privacy fence that is around the perimeter of the site is in
disrepair. They need to repair and maintain that fence. 2) After the snow
melts, Staff wants to make sure there is adequate landscaping on the site. If
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additional landscaping is required, the petitioner would be required to take
care of that. They are proposing seventy-five seats which translates into
forty-seven parking stalls required. The site only has thirty-seven. They are
about 21% short. Hardee’s has assured Staff they have other locations in the
Chicagoland area that have thirty to thirty-five spaces and that is more than
sufficient. Staff believes it would further the goals of the Comprehensive
Plan. Since this is a vacant building, a new business would combat blight. It
would help and maintain the Village’s tax base. It would help in seeking
commercial and retail uses throughout the Village. Adjacent land use is
primarily commercial. There were no comments from the police and fire
departments. Engineering had a comment about the sign they thought might
be in the right of way, which is not the case. The findings of fact for the
Special Use and the menu board have been met. The findings of fact for the
parking variation have also been satisfied. Legal notice was sent to all
neighbors and published in the newspaper.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there is a left turn lane into the property if you
are heading north on Milwaukee Avenue.
Commissioner Schulter said yes.
Mr. Sylvester said you can turn left into the property from either direction.
Commissioner Troiani said the garbage area is close to the Rustic Fence
Company. Is there a way to move it to a different section?
Mr. Sylvester said if the property to the north were residential, he might be
able to do more about recommending the garbage area be moved. However, it
doesn’t look from the site map there is anywhere else to move it.
Chairman Kanelos asked if there were any other questions from the staff.
There were none. There were no questions from the public either. He said
the petitioner is free to speak but doesn’t think it is necessary. He
entertained a motion.
Commissioner Dubiel moved the Village Board approve a parking
variation per Appendix B Section XI(E) and a Special Use Permit for a
seventy-five restaurant with drive-up window facilities and menu-board
signage per Appendix B Sections VIII(C)(3)(a); VIII(B)(3)(z); and
VIII(B)(3)(tt) at 9102 North Milwaukee Avenue, Niles, Illinois 60714. The
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existing perimeter shall be maintained at all times. Community
Development shall inspect landscaping in the spring of 2014. The applicant
shall provide additional landscaping should it be necessary. The findings of
fact are met.
Seconded by Commissioner Surace, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter, Dubiel,
Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
Chairman Kanelos added this Board is a recommending Board to the Board
of Trustees who can either confirm or negate this decision. It will be
necessary for the petitioner to contact Mr. Ostman and ask to be placed on
the Board of Trustees agenda. The petitioner will then be notified of the
date. Anyone in the audience who would like to be informed as to the date
this will be heard by the Board of Trustees, leave your name and address
with the recording secretary.
Chairman Kanelos then entertained a motion to adjourn.
Vice-Chairman Dimond moved to adjourn.
Seconded by Commissioner Dubiel, on roll call the vote was:
AYES: 7 Dimond, Surace, Troiani, Nakanishi, Schulter, Dubiel,
Kanelos
NAYS: 0
There being seven (7) affirmative votes the motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Kathleen Janessa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
“Where People Count”
Community Development
1000 Civic Center Drive, Niles, Illinois 60714
Mayor Telephone (847) 588-8040 ● Fax (847) 588-8050 ● TDD (847) 588-8059
Andrew Przybylo REVISED AGENDA
Trustees
PLAN COMMISSION & ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
George D. Alpogianis MONDAY, MARCH 3, 2014 7:00 p.m.
Chris Hanusiak
John C. Jekot CALL TO ORDER
Joe LoVerde
Danette O’Donovan
Matyas
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Rosemary R. Palicki
ROLL CALL
Village Manager
Steven C. Vinezeano APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Village Clerk
February 3, 2014
Marlene J. Victorine
______________ ANNOUNCEMENTS
Community March 10th joint meeting of the Plan Commission/Zoning Board of Appeals and the
Development Building and Zoning Committee—6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers
Director
Charles Ostman OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
14-ZP-4 – Reconsideration of a Request for approval of ‘Parking Credits’ to
allow a hair salon business at 7934 West Oakton Street, Niles, Illinois 60714
14-ZP-9 – Requesting approval of a Plat of Subdivision at 8409 Shermer Road,
Niles, Illinois 60714 as provided in Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i)
14-ZP-10 – Requesting approval of a Plat of Consolidation at 7449-7501 Natchez
Avenue, Niles, Illinois 60714 as provided in Appendix B, Section XI(1)(3)(i)
WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
14-ZP-11 – Requesting approval of a Special Use Permit per Appendix B Section
VIII(B)(3)(hh) for an ‘e-cigarette’ kiosk at Golf Mill Mall located at 239 Golf
Mill Center, Niles, Illinois 60714. WITHDRAWN BY APPLICANT
14-ZP-12 – Requesting a parking variation per Appendix B Section XI(E) and a
Special Use Permit per Appendix B Sections VIII(C)(3)(a); VIII(B)(3)(z); and
VIII(B)(3)(tt) for a restaurant with drive-up window facilities and menu-board
signage at 9102 North Milwaukee Avenue, Niles, Illinois 60714
DISCUSSIONS
ADJOURNMENT
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