Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · April 24, 2014
Minutes
STORMWATER COMMISSION
MEETING SUMMARY
Thursday, April 24, 2014
The following persons were present: Chair Joe Lo Verde, Steven Vinezeano, Chuck
Ostman, Richard Wlodarski, Robert Callero, Andrew Vitale, Fred Kudert, Tom Polcyn,
Mousa Nazzal, and Jeff Wickenkamp and Patrick Lach of Hey and Associates. Resident
Louella Preston was also present.
The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m.
I. Approve Meeting Summary for Wednesday, February 5, 2014. Summary was
approved to be posted on the Stormwater Commission webpage.
II. Old Business:
i. Flood Control Assistance Program Update. Chuck Ostman gave an
update of the funds used to date, number of installations and waiting
list. He stated that 53 opted out of the program. Andrew provided a
map of all the locations that installed flood control since 2003. Over
600 were done.
ii. Tier 1 Capital Improvements.
a. Our Lady of Ransom and Maryhill Cemetery. Jeff stated
that both OLR and Maryhill going out the first week of May.
Maryhill engineering is completed and OLR is nearly
complete. All is coming into place for mid-June
construction start. Time is of the essence for the new
engineer. The projects are earth moving and substantial
sewer runs. OLR has some new parking lot as well. We are
working with them on scheduling to ensure the trucks are out
of the way by August due to kids. The OLR project is 11
feet deep. Jeff provided a plan view for OLR and an
engineering plan for Maryhill. The sewers will need to go
open trench across Milwaukee. The open trench was not
stated as a problem by IDOT.
There was some discussion about the retention basin and the
possible need for a barrier for protection. Jeff said the OLR
depth will be 3-5 feet and rare to have deeper. OLR and the
attorneys did not want to have fencing; however, some type
of barrier curb will be installed to prevent cars from going
into the basin. In addition, it is a 4 to 1 slope. The Chair
stated he had a concern about the 11-foot of water and
possibility of kids drowning. It was stated that the church
did not want a fence and that the village attorney warned that
the facility should not have a fence because you would be
open to liability. Former Trustee Preston stated that she has
seen a number of similar facilities without fencing and even
with activities for children.
b. Cleveland Sewer Project. Under design with comments back
on various comments from Forest Preserve and Corps of
Engineers. He stated that we must get a new FPD license for
the facility that is in place from 1962 since it cannot be
found. We are waiting for feedback from MWRD and or
IEPA which could impact the engineering of the project.
Jeff sketched project based on a question from Fred Kudert.
At first it was planned that a new sewer would share the
outfall to save on construction, etc. Now working on duel
outfalls from pipes that crisscross. Is there merit at village
inspecting last of pipe near outfall. Tom stated that he does
not have the equipment. Only can inspect 42 inch pipe at the
largest, so this would need to be farmed out. The headwall
will need to be improved/replaced with landscaping and
screening, which is something the FPD benefits from the
project.
iii. Illinois State Revolving Fund Loan. Vinezeano stated that no
information was provided by State yet.
iv. MWRD Local Grant Funding Opportunity. Vinezeano stated that
MWRD legislation passed the House unanimously and staff will do
what they can to push it past the Senate in the Spring. The Chair
stated that the Lobbyist will be on by then and can assist.
v. CRS 6 Designation and Maintenance. It was discussed that the new
engineer or Mousa will need to continue the CRS 6 program to
maintain it. Cindy will not be around, so it will be the new
engineer.
vi. Small Projects Review. Discussion on resident from Kedzie as one
of the small projects to be reviewed from Hey and Associates.
These are projects that are not served by any of the Tier projects.
Kedzie is estimated at $60k. What is direction for engineering these
projects? Will these be Tier III projects? There was discussion
about Kedzie and that the owner there does not flood, however, in
the last meeting he was informed that the project would be done.
Some of these could be filtered in the Tier II possibly if money
comes available and we can engineer a solution. The Chair stated
that we have Tier I to worry about at the moment. The projects for
review on this sheet should be considered for bidding out –
construction, not design. There was discussion about meeting with
the individual from Kedzie who flooded from the sewer and not
overland. Jeff verified that he did not get overland flooding. The
water sits too long as a nuisance that can be alleviated with up to
$60k. All that is needed is a study to verify this compared to the
other small projects for merit. Some research and modeling was
completed, but full analysis is required. A model will be necessary
for 9401 Western. Continue with the study and prioritize. This is
budgeted. Overland review for Cost Share program was discussed
to be in 2014 budget. Hey and Associates will continue with
overland review through Public Services.
III. New Business:
i. MWRD Watershed Management Ordinance. Mousa stated the issue
at hand. Is our ordinance stricter than MWRD? MWRD is stricter
than the Village’s ordinance. Jeff thinks that it will be an
adjustment for developers. There was brief discussion about sod on
Milwaukee Avenue and who was responsible. The trees that were
dying were also mentioned.
ii. Resident Engineering for Projects. There was discussion regarding
the clarification on who would serve as the RE for the project. It
was said that it would be the Superintendent of Engineering or Hey
and Associates. Also, it was stated that the new engineer to be hired
could be the RE. Jeff stated that a stormwater specialist is not
necessary, just an engineer who can ensure the Village gets what we
paid for. Hey and Associates will be there for support. Need
someone in the field to observe the project every day. Hey and
Associates stated that they could be there. It was stated that having
a village engineer do this gives project knowledge for the future.
Dealing with the residents and quantities should be done with an
employee. The Chair reiterated the complications of such a project
as is planned on Cleveland. Is it Mousa with a supporting engineer
or a new engineer and Mousa remains doing what he does as
superintendent? Mousa said he would be the project manager, but
another engineer would be in the field. The Commission concurred.
Jeff informed the commission of the timing of the two projects
which will last 50 to 70 days for Our Lady of Ransom and Maryhill.
It is logical that these end before Cleveland start because it would
be a large labor strain on engineering. Bid documents state that as
builds do not come from the contractor. The owner will have
someone create these – Hey and Associates. There was discussion
that the priority is completing the Tier I projects first.
IV. Open Discussion: None.
V. Next Scheduled Meetings: TBD
Agenda
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PUBLIC NOTICE
Stormwater Commission
Trustee Joe LoVerde, Chairman of the Stormwater Commission
has called a meeting on:
Thursday, April 24, 2014
8:30 a.m.
Large Conference Room 2nd Floor
1000 Civic Center Drive
Niles, Illinois
www.vniles.com
Stormwater Commission Meeting
April 24, 2014
Village Hall at 8:30 a.m.
Agenda
I. Approve Meeting Summary of Wednesday, February 5, 2014.
II. Old Business –
i. Flood Control Assistance Program - Ostman
ii. Tier I Capital Improvements - Wickenkamp
a. Our Lady of Ransom
b. Maryhill Cemetery
c. Cleveland Street Sewer
iii. Illinois State Revolving Fund Loan - Vinezeano
iv. MWRD Local Grant Funding Opportunity - Vinezeano
v. CRS 6 Designation and Maintenance – Nazzal
vi. Small Projects Review – Vinezeano/Wickenkamp
III. New Business –
i. MWRD Watershed Management Ordinance – Nazzal
ii. Resident Engineering for Projects
IV. Open Discussion –
V. Next Meeting – TBD