Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · July 13, 2017
Minutes
Stormwater Commission Meeting Summary
Thursday, July 13th, 2017
Members Present: Fred Kudert, Steven Vinezeano, Joseph LoVerde, Rich Wlodarski, Thomas
Powers, Mary Anderson, Robert Callero, Andrew Vitale.
Others present: Jeff Wickenkamp and Jeff Macke from Hey & Associates, Jack Grana-Utilities,
Max Theccanat - Intern
The Stormwater Commission meeting convened at 8:00 a.m. in the EOC room at Village Hall.
February 24th Meeting Summary: The Meeting Summary for the February 24, 2017 was
approved.
Storm Recap July 8th to July 11th
Chair LoVerde asked for a recap of how the Village stormwater system performed during the
early July storm. Mary Anderson reported visual inspection of Oak Park Bioswale, Cleveland
Sewer area, and Oconto/Mulford area indicated no flooding.
Jack Grana indicated some street flooding at Main and Oconto, and Main and Osceola due to
sewer surcharge. The majority of calls were from the north end of town where the gages
indicated 3” of rain fall. Twelve total calls were received. We also received a call near Western
and Knight near Glenview for water in front yards. Ballard Road near Delphia Avenue was
overtopped due to Farmers Creek, this information was shared with IDOT.
Steve Vinezeano asked about improvements Glenview made to the Golden Forties and asked how
that affected the system. Hey indicated they had received the data but were not sure of the
impacts. Tom Powers indicated that Glenview made some conveyance improvements but also
oversized some pipes and added restrictors in series to maximize storage.
Old Business: The following topics were presented and discussed.
Flood Control Assistance Program
For FY17 $50,000 was budgeted and $48,000 has been obligated. Two people have been placed
on a waiting list. Community Development presented a unique case needing interpretation of
the reimbursement program. Recently a resident who received flood control reimbursement
passed away and her son then proceeded to rent out the house. Community Development
attempted to obtain refund of the reimbursement, however that was challenged by the new
property owner. Since there was no sale the legal standing of the Villge request was
questionable. Community Development presented revised language to the reimbursement policy
to address this situation in the future. The commission indicated that the Village Attorney
should be consulted both for the revised language and for this specific case. The commission
reconfirmed that the intent of the flood control protection program was for residents who
actually live in homes in town.
9101 Greenwood
The building has not been occupied since last October. Fore a period of time, the Village
continued to receive expensive electricity bills and worked with ComED to cut off the power
completely. There are funds in the budget for demolition, so the process to demolish the
building is moving forward.
New Business: The following topics were presented and discussed
Yard Drainage Policy
The Engineering Department presented a white paper on yard drainage in the Village. The paper
was updated based on the discussion held at the August 2016 Stormwater Commission Meeting.
The current policy is that staff will provide limited assistance for nuisance flooding problems
and that residents remain responsible for design and construction of solutions to address yard
flooding. The primary update to the paper involves the legal interpretation of back yard sewer.
Back yard private sewer maintenance
The legal department indicated that the current language on the books is sufficient to divest the
Village of responsibility for back yard sewers for all scenarios. The legal department did make
some recommendations for best practices including: 1) Publish a notice in the newsletter re-
establishing the policy and ordinance 2) The Village should not perform any maintenance on
private property sewers or should charge to perform such maintenance 3) Any new rear yard
sewers should be placed in an easement indicating that the sewer are private and include
language about private maintenance responsibility. The commission indicated that charging for
maintenance creates a bunch of problem in terms of politics, ability to pay, and equity. A better
approach would be to provide a list of contractors to perform the work for residents. For legal,
liability, and insurance purposes Public Works employees should not be doing work on private
property. If a home was being immediately impacted via overland flood into the home an
exception could be made on an emergency basis. Staff will work up language for a notice to be
posted in Focus on Niles.
Private property yard nuisance flooding
Currently Community Development addresses downspout issues, while engineering addresses lot
grading complaints. Staff has prepared a list of both designers and contractors developed from a
public RFQ process. This list can be provided to residents to assist resident with the next steps
when property improvements are required to resolve yard flooding.
Staff also met with Rain Ready representatives to learn about their program. The concept behind
rain ready would be outsourcing the issue addressing of nuisance flooding complaints to provide
a higher level of service to residents. Currently nuisance flooding complaint resolution does
place significant demands on work load for both Community Development and Engineering
Departments. The Village has responded to 23 requests for back yard flooding assistance, year
to date in 2017. The Rain Ready program would provide a more complete start to finish
approach for residents who want to address a specific problem, and would possibly provide
avoid the tendency of residents to want to overly rely on Village staff for services that are not
available.
Rain Ready offers three main Programs: 1) Rain Ready home for addressing single lot level
problems. 2) Rain Ready Community program for helping resolve flooding issues that affect
multiple properties 3) My rain ready, an online tool for self assessing property and could be
updated to add Village programs. A discussion was held regarding the value of the program and
comparison to current Village services. There was a concern about making residents pay for
consultation without any construction taking place. Residents will likely focus on getting piped
solutions to dry out their yards. The resident may be better served to attempt to hire a contractor
directly. The Commission remains focuses on getting water out of basements, homes, and
streets. Attempting to resolve back yard flooding is a no win situation. Village responsibility for
back yards should be limited to providing utility and lot information that we have on file. The
Commission felt yard flooding was not a priority for the Village to address compared to other
stormwater issues in town. Village staff should limit their involvement with yard drainage
problems to regulatory code enforcement only.
The Commission also discussed example regulatory program from Downers Grove regarding the
mapping known overland flow and poor drainage areas. The Niles engineering department
mapped out rear yard drainage paths based on current data. While back yard drainage is not a
priority, an incremental change to the ordinance may be beneficial. Staff will may some
regulatory recommendations to the commission at a future meeting.
MWRD Green Infrastructure Grant
A meeting was held with the Forest Preserve District of Cook County (FPDCC) to present some
potential green infrastructure projects with stormwater benefits to the Village. FPDCC did not
respond positively to our Green Infrastructure concepts on their property. The Village of Niles
staff requested commission approval to apply for funds from the MWRD to pave a portion of the
senior center parking lot in lieu of the preferred projects. A future project at Notre Dame for
permeable pavement at the North East Corner of Oriole may also be considered in future calls
for projects. The commission approved the request to apply for funds for the senior center
project.
Stormwater update
Hey presented a revised prioritization scoring system to the commission. A flood severity
ranking was added to the system to prioritize projects that provide good value and address severe
problems. The benefits were based on the number of structures benefiting, severity was based on
a binary yes/no scoring system of known common flood problems. The value of the 25-yr storm
was increased compared to previous iterations to provide more value to projects which benefit
structures that flood more frequently. Hey felt that the scoring system was pretty stable and that
making adjustments to point values did not change the rankings. A scatter plot was provided to
show the interrelation of benefit and problem severity. The Commission decided to proceed with
the rating system as presented which prioritizes project which provide the most benefit, value,
and addresses severe situations. Hey was directed to vet the list to remove duplicate projects.
Chair LoVerde inquired as to why the senior center green infrastructure (GI) project was
prioritized over the previously identified Prospect Court cul-de-sac project. Previous
correspondence indicated that Prospect Court was likely the only stand alone green
infrastructure. Staff explained that the senior center project was more likely to score well with
the MWRD due to the high profile nature of the project being located in a municipal campus and
adjacent to a school. The Prospect Court project ranked lower due to only addressing street
flooding, while the senior center project provides some downstream benefits to an area that has
structure flooding. The senior center was not identified previously, but was developed as a result
of being rebuffed by the FPDCC for the preferred GI projects. The MWRD green infrastructure
project includes scoring for project visibility. Many of the green alley and cul-de-sac type
projects do not score as well with the MWRD when this is taken into consideration.
The schedule for completing the stormwater update would be to finalize project list with
engineering staff, hold an open house in September, and adopt the plan in October. The goal is
to target a 4th quarter MWRD call for projects.
Another potential funding source includes a stormwater detention banking system which is under
consideration by the MWRD and Openlands.
A general discussion was held about the Open House.
Next Meeting Date
The date of the next meeting will be determined at the call of the Chairman. The stormwater
open house was tentatively planned for September with adoption of the plan in October.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:20 a.m.
Agenda
PUBLIC SERVICES
MAYOR TRUSTEES
Andrew Przybylo George D. Alpogianis
John C. Jekot
VILLAGE MANAGER Joe LoVerde
Steven C. Vinezeano Danette O’Donovan Matyas
Denise McCreery
VILLAGE CLERK Dean Strzelecki
Marlene J. Victorine
STORMWATER COMMISSION MEETING
Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 8:00 a.m.
VILLAGE HALL, Board Chamber Conference Room (1st FL)
I. Call to order
II. Roll Call
III. Approve Meeting Summary from February 24, 2017
IV. Old Business –
a. Status of Flood Control Assistance Program ‐ RJW
V. New Business –
a. 9101 Greenwood Demolition Status ‐ MJA
b. Yard Drainage White Paper ‐ TJP
i. Contractor list
ii. Rain Ready Program
c. Green Infrastructure Application –Status update TJP
d. Stormwater Update –Revised Solutions Workshop – Hey and Associates
e. Open House Planning ‐ Group Discussion
Potential items:
Past Projects/successes
Information gathering
5‐ year look ahead
MWRD call for projects
VI. Other Business
VII. Public Comment
VIII. Future Meeting Date –Late Summer Open House, MWRD call for projects
IX. Adjourn
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