Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · November 30, 2017
Minutes
Stormwater Commission Meeting Summary
Thursday, November 30th, 2017
Members Present: Fred Kudert, Steven Vinezeano, Rich Wlodarski, Thomas Powers, Mary
Anderson, Andrew Vitale, and Chuck Ostman.
Others present: Jeff Wickenkamp from Hey & Associates,
The Stormwater Commission meeting convened at 8:00 a.m. in the EOC room 218 at Village
Hall.
October 31st Meeting Summary: The Meeting Summary for the October 31st , 2017 meeting
was approved.
Old Business: The following topics were presented and discussed.
MWRD Green Infrastructure Grant
The senior center Green Infrastructure grant was not selected but would be kept in the queue for
next year.
New Business: The following topics were presented and discussed
Stormwater Management Plan MS4 – Public Meeting
The MS4 Stormwater Management Plan was reviewed in a public setting for compliance with
the MS4 program permit requirements. There were very few revisions made from the previous
year’s plans.
Community Development and engineering planned to meet to discuss MS4 commercial property
inspection requirements. This could potentially be a budgetary issue if the inspections were
outsourced.
No public comments on the MS4 stormwater management plan were received.
Stormwater update
The commission previously provided comments on the draft stormwater update. Hey and
Associates presented comment disposition on the comments received to date. Hey also prepared
a draft informational presentation which would eventually be presented to the board. The target
would be a 30 minute maximum informational presentation to the Board.
The presentation covers the general program, with a focus on infrastructure plan update. The
infrastructure portion includes discussing problem areas, ranking process, infrastructure
improvements, and recommended projects.
The presentation of the ranking system was significantly revised with a focus on project
precedence and value. The “highest bank for buck” projects were prioritized and separated into
four quartiles. A few projects fell into a conditional space as they were either dependent on
other projects, or would not be done if a larger overlapping project was implemented.
Overlapping projects 9B and 9A in particular were potentially a problem to explain to the board.
It was discussed that the commission and staff are responsible for recommending the initial
project prioritization. The intricacies of a few non-standard projects should be handled below
the board level.
The infrastructure plan resulted in 12 priority projects recommended to continue to move
forward. This should be presented to the board in a generic fashion, with the backup information
available to review upon request. Detail on the 12 projects should be provided in the board
packet. Staff will need to be able to discuss the availability of funds for future projects. Ideally
once the capacity of the stormwater fund is known then a 5-year CIP will be developed and
presented.
There was detailed discussion on Project #4/17-13 being presented as an above ground basin.
The cost for and underground vault should be shown even though the underground vault is not
needed for a stormwater benefit. The cost for underground storage should also be identified, in
part because the underground storage cost may be eligible for MWRD funding in accordance
with the goals of their stormwater program. The underground storage is linked to a dual-use
facility. Project #4/17-13 should be evaluated consistently for what is required stormwater
benefit only. The underground storage provides additional economic benefit from the dual use.
The commission discussed to what extent finances should be discussed in the stormwater update.
It was determined that staff is responsible for determining funding scenarios and that should not
be part of the stormwater report.
The stormwater commission reviewed the 12 recommended projects (table ES-1) in detail. Even
though there are 6 projects in the first quartile, due to the preliminary nature of the projects some
may eventually be eliminated from consideration as the designs are developed. Therefore it is
recommended by Hey to move forward in further developing all the 12 projects so that a more
flexible list of projects is available.
The exhibits were split into three series
Series 1 problem areas
Series 2 project maps
Series 3 before and after (project benefits)
Each potential project was reviewed:
Project 17-3 Install new storm sewer from Seward and Oakton to Oakton and Caldwell. Sewer
runs across Forest Preserve Property. Project needs concept development to further refine
project. IDOT may also have involvement.
Project 17-14A is a tier 3 project that is fully designed on Washington Street. This is an 18”
overflow sewer to increase capacity during flood conditions. 14A overlaps with project 14B, if
14B was implemented then 14A would not be implemented. Washington is a FAU route which is
eligible for federal funding. 14A may not meet the needs of the residents on Churchill as it does
not eliminate the street flooding that many residents complain about. The project score well doe
to the low cost and due to a single structure flood reduction benefits. The calculated structure
benefit is within the margin of error of the model and without the structure flooding the project
would not score well. The history/nature of calls do not calibrate to the model results.
Community Development would investigate structure flooding along Churchill to determine if
the flooding is as modeled. The project may list out in the quartiles for consistency of approach
but may not ultimately be recommended based on rational analysis.
Project 17-14B is a more comprehensive flood solution to the flooding on Churchill than as
provided by 14A. It involves increasing the wet well/storage for the pump station to allow
storage for the runoff prior to pumping.
Project 17-26, 17-4, and 17-27 are sewer extensions for the Cleveland Sewer Project.
Project 17-13 is the Greenwood and Church storage basin. The program was discussed
previously in the meeting
Project 17-9C is the regrading of Jonquil Terrace to allow an overland flood route out of the
neighborhood into the Forest Preserve. The project needs concept development to further refine
project feasibility.
Project 17-7A is a large scale sewer improvement similar to the Cleveland project. The project
serves multiple neighborhoods and involves a new outfall to the Chicago River. An outfall at
Howard also remains a possibility for this project.
Project 17-29 is sewer capacity improvement to serve the Carol/Crain neighborhood. The
project is dependent on the downstream tail water condition. At times the Des Plaines tail water
could keep the project form working, but the project would still provide benefit for many storm
events.
Project 17-8 is the Jonquil Terrace/Lawler underground storage within the right-of-way.
Project 17-14B was discussed earlier under project 17-14A,
Project 17-23B is the Jarvis Relief sewer. There was some question as to the extent of flooding
in the neighborhood. The commission confirmed the flooding indicated at Jarvis and Harlem.
This project was at the bottom of the list and unlikely to move forward without further
investigation and confirmation of the problem areas.
The commission approved the changes and recommendations discussed at meeting. Staff would
reach out to the commission chair to review the presentation and report as presented today. Staff
would obtain the chairs comments. Since the revised report was delivered at the current meeting,
a 10 day business period for further comments was established. A meeting of the commission
would be held to finalize the report recommendation.
Next Meeting Date
The date of the next meeting will be late December/January timeframe. The next meeting will be
held after the 10 day comment period and Hey has addressed the resulting comments.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:17 a.m.
Agenda
PUBLIC SERVICES
MAYOR TRUSTEES
Andrew Przybylo George D. Alpogianis
John C. Jekot
VILLAGE MANAGER Joe LoVerde
Steven C. Vinezeano Danette O’Donovan Matyas
Denise McCreery
VILLAGE CLERK Dean Strzelecki
Marlene J. Victorine
PUBLIC NOTICE
STORMWATER COMMISSION MEETING
Thursday, November 30th, 2017 at 8:00 a.m.
VILLAGE HALL, Board Council Chambers (1st FL)
I. Call to order
II. Roll Call
III. Approve Meeting Summary from October 31, 2017
IV. Old Business –
V. New Business –
a. MS4 – Stormwater Management Plan Public Comments ‐ TJP
b. Stormwater Update – Report Review ‐ Hey
VI. Other Business
VII. Public Comment
VIII. Future Meeting Date – TBD
IX. Adjourn
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