Stormwater Commission
Regular MeetingNiles, IL · January 26, 2018
Minutes
Stormwater Commission Meeting Summary
Friday January 26, 2018
Members Present: Rich Wlodarski, Thomas Powers, Mary Anderson, Andrew Vitale, Joseph
LoVerde, Robert Callero, and Chuck Ostman.
Others present: Jeff Wickenkamp from Hey & Associates, Jack Grana Utilities Superintendent.
The Stormwater Commission meeting convened at 8:05 a.m. in the Council Chambers 114 at
Village Hall.
November 30th Meeting Summary: The Meeting Summary for the November 30th, 2017
meeting was approved.
Old Business: There was no old business discussed.
New Business: The following topics were presented and discussed
Stormwater Update – Final Report Review
The commission last met on November 30th to review a draft of the stormwater report. The
commission previously approved the draft report in concept but wanted additional time to
prepare comments and discuss with Chair LoVerde. Tom Powers, Joseph LoVerde, and Chuck
Ostman since provided comments on the report.
The major change from the November draft was the way projects were divvied up into quartiles.
The projects did not seperate out evenly into 4 quartiles. The projects are now allocated as
follows 1st Quatile:6 projects, 2nd Quartiles: 6 projects, 3rd Quartile: 7 projects, 4th Quartile: 7
projects. Project 23B (Jarvis relief sewer) was dropped from the top 12 projects. Dobson sewer
9B moved up in priority. The scores and rankings of the projects did not change, but the
assignment to quartiles did. The reconfiguration was based on feedback from the November 30th
meeting.
The quartile chart was also revised to show relative value based on x-axis and matched the pie
chart concept. This further demonstrated the concept of diminishing returns as more money is
spent. The above changes were the only significant revisions since the November draft.
Chair LoVerde asked about how to determine the benefit scores and structures benefitting from
each project. For instance how does the $8 million 17-7A Dobson project score? The Village
Engineer indicated the report finds that 24 home benefit during the 25-year storm and 66 homes
benefit during the 100- year storm. It was noted that this particular project addresses a long term
problem area. Hey discussed how previously a sewer project only serving Dobson and Oconto
was not beneficial due to the cost involved, however if additional flood relief can be provided
downstream then the project makes more sense.
Regarding the Jarvis project, Chair LoVerde asked about the sewer installed in the police parking
lot years ago and what that does to relieve flooding. Hey clarified that the Jarvis project
addresses overland flooding coming from Chicago further upstream. The Commission discussed
if the flooding describe was accurate, Hey indicated they had witnessed some of the flooding
shown in the model.
Commissioner Ostman had some lingering concerns about the cost of the 17-7a project and the
benefits provided. Hey pointed out that the benefit calculation for Cleveland was different than
the current approach which focuses on completely removing structures for flood area. The
previous calculation during Tier1 awarded benefit for reduction in flood depth, even if a
structure still flooded. By the nature of the process, the current list of projects will provide less
benefits than Tier 1 due to diminishing returns.
There was a discussion about whether Tier 1 should be re-scored for comparison purposes. The
Village Engineer noted that rescoring the Tier 1 projects was outside the scope of the stormwater
updates. Chair LoVerde felt that the stormwater report is a living document and really the report
is meant to look forward instead of backwards. The important issue is that the current logic is
well thought out.
The commission agreed to present the results of the stormwater update at the March
Informational Consideration meeting and followed by the Board Meeting. The board
presentation should include information on schedule and funding.
The stormwater update was approved by the commission by formal vote.
MWRD – Call for projects
A discussion was held regarding whether to apply for the upcoming MWRD call for projects
funding opportunity. A question was asked whether the Greenwood project would qualify as
shovel ready. According to the MWRD rules a 2019 construction timeframe is still considered
shovel ready. The effort put forth in stormwater update counts towards the shovel ready
definition. Overall, the Greenwood project is a very strong candidate for funding based on the
information provided by the MWRD to date. Even if the project might not receive funding on
this cycle, it is important to get the project in front of the MWRD so they become familiar with
it.
Another discussion was held regarding how much funding to request from the MWRD. Based
on funding available it seems $2 million or 20% of the project cost was a reasonable amount to
ask for. It was agreed by the commission to apply for the MWRD funding.
New Greenwood Park Concept Design Update
The commission reviewed some preliminary park design sketches prepared by Uhlir-Nelson for
information purposes only.
Next Meeting Date
The date of the next meeting will be called at the discretion of the chair. Staff and Hey would
present the stormwater update to the board in March. A follow up meeting with finance
committee was also recommended to determine how much the Village could afford to build.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:11 a.m.
Agenda
PUBLIC SERVICES
MAYOR TRUSTEES
Andrew Przybylo George D. Alpogianis
John C. Jekot
VILLAGE MANAGER Joe LoVerde
Steven C. Vinezeano Danette O’Donovan Matyas
Denise McCreery
VILLAGE CLERK Dean Strzelecki
Marlene J. Victorine
Meeting Agenda
STORMWATER COMMISSION MEETING
Friday, January 26th, 2018 at 8:00 a.m.
VILLAGE HALL, Board Council Conference Room (1st FL)
I. Call to order
II. Roll Call
III. Approve Meeting Summary from November 30, 2017
IV. Old Business –
V. New Business –
a. Stormwater Update – Final Report Review – Hey
b. MWRD – Call for projects ‐ All
c. New Greenwood Park Concept Design Update
VI. Other Business
VII. Public Comment
VIII. Future Meeting Date – TBD
IX. Adjourn
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