Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · June 25, 2024
Minutes
CITY OF NORWALK
CONSERVATION COMMISSION/INLAND WETLAND AGENCY
JUNE 25, 2024
PRESENT: Steve Klocke, Chair; Cheryl Brown; Heather Breslin; Kathryn Knight
STAFF: Amelia Williams
OTHERS: Michelle Abbruzzese; Jay Fain; William Kenny; Marc Deberadinis; Atty John
Hall
I. CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Klocke called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. It should be noted that this meeting
was held on Zoom.com with all participants calling in, separately.
II. ROLL CALL
Ms. Williams called the roll.
III. PUBLIC COMMENT
Michelle Abbruzzese, 2 Singing Woods Court, asked them to preserve forest and
wetlands in Norwalk. She noted that there has been significant forest loss in the last few
decades. She quotes from the Center for Land Use Education and Research (CLEAR) about
the loss of these forest/wetlands. She explained the impacts on the city with this loss. Ms.
Knight noted that the Tree Advisory Committee is looking for volunteers urgently. Mr. Klocke
said that the Conservation Commission is also looking for volunteers.
IV. RECEIPT & DISCUSSION
a) #S24-640 – 2 Lloyd Road – Jay Fain & Associates, LLC – Corrective Action
piping and filling of a watercourse
Ms. Williams began by orienting the commissioners as to the location of the property on
an aerial map. She showed them a watercourse. She then explained why the owner was sent a
Notice of Violation and that they had submitted a Corrective Action application to maintain the
piping of the watercourse.
Jay Fain said that he would save the larger presentation for the public hearing. He said
that Julio Milian had recently purchased the property. A soil scientist had classified the property
as an intermittent watercourse because it received drainage from Route 123. They have
prepared a mitigation plan. Ms. Williams suggested that Mr. Fain provide the full presentation.
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He explained that drainage comes off Route 123 and goes into the owner’s basement. He said
it is not a traditional watercourse. Mr. Klocke said that he believed that it would be in his client’s
best interest to provide as much information as he could before the public hearing. Mr. Fain
said that they could put the previous pipe back in. He also discussed the planting plan and
showed them the footprint for the pipe. Mr. Fain said that he was preparing a report which he
would send to the commission later in the week.
Ms. Williams showed the commissioners pictures from the site. The commissioners had
some comments about the pipe removal and alternatives for it. He explained about the pipe
further and showed them the watershed area. There was a review of two water delineation
maps from 2000 and 2024. There was a discussion about the piping of the water through the
property which Mr. Fain said would be addressed by an engineer. Ms. Williams said that the
staff had questions about a connection from one pipe to another. Mr. Fain suggested adding
more photos of the upstream area. He also said that he had spoken with the Department of
Public Works (DPW).
Mr. Fain thanked the commissioners for their time.
b) #S24-641 – 4 Singing Woods Road – William Kenny Associates, LLC -
Corrective Action removal of fill from a wetland and construction of a new SFR adjacent
to a wetland
Ms. Williams began by orienting the commissioners as to the location of the property on
an aerial map. She noted that this application would require a public hearing. The house to be
constructed would not be within the upland review area, but portions of the driveway and
stormwater management system would be. A violation had been issued in 2004 but not
remedied since then, and the corrective action work within the wetland of removing fill would
trigger the public hearing requirement.
William Kenny, professional wetland scientist, spoke on behalf of the applicant. He also
introduced another member of the project team. He shared a map of the property and surround
lots that were once one piece of property. He showed a site plan for the property including the
proposed house and pool. He discussed the plantings and boulder demarcation. There was a
further discussion about the site plan, including tree removal. Mr. Kenny said that several trees
had grown in the last twenty years. There was a discussion about the turnaround for the
driveway and a request for a buffer larger than 25 ft. There was a discussion about potential
impacts. There was further discussion about the trees in the wetlands area, both those that
would be removed and those that had been added to the wetlands. There was also a
discussion about the infiltration system and the driveway.
Mr. Klocke noted that Ms. Abruzzesse, who had spoken during public comment earlier
in the meeting, was an abutting neighbor of this property.
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There was a discussion about the date of the public hearing. Mr. Klocke said that he
would like to receive further information so that he did not recommend the public hearing at the
next meeting on July 9th.
*** MR. KLOCKE MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO PUT APPLICATION
#S24-642 – 6 RANGE ROAD – DEBERADINIS – INSTALLATION OF IN-GROUND POOL
ADJACENT TO A WETLAND AND A WATERCOURSE, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AT
7 PM.
*** MS. BRESLIN SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT; HEATHER BRESLIN
APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** NO ONE ABSTAINED.
The commissioners waited until 7 pm to begin the public hearing.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (begins at 7:00 p.m.)
a) #IWWR1-24 – Regulation Amendment – To revise definition of Regulated
Activity in §60A-2 Definitions; revision would change the upland review area to one
hundred (100) feet from the boundary of any wetland and b) #IWWR2-24 – Regulation
Amendment - To revise paragraph (A.) and add new subparagraph (B.(3)) of §60A-4
Permitted Operations and Uses regarding installation of dry hydrants as required by
Public Act 11-184; to revise paragraphs (A.) and (f.) of §60A-11 Decision Process and
Permit to add language regarding restrictions as to the time of year activities may be
conducted and permit expiration timelines to align with Public Act 12-151, and to change
all references to Department of Environmental Protection" and "DEP" to "Department of
Energy and Environmental Protection" and "DEEP".
Ms. Williams suggested that they open the public hearings together to hear comments
at the same time. Mr. Klocke opened both public hearings. No members of the public spoke for
or against the applications. Ms. Williams said they would need separate motions for each of the
amendments.
VII. DISCUSSION &/OR DECISION
a) #IWWR1-24 – Regulation Amendment – To revise definition of Regulated
Activity in §60A-2 Definitions; revision would change the upland review area to one
hundred (100) feet from the boundary of any wetland.
*** MS. KNIGHT MADE A MOTION TO ADOPT TO REVISE DEFINITION OF
REGULATED ACTIVITY IN §60A-2 DEFINITIONS; REVISION WOULD CHANGE THE
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UPLAND REVIEW AREA TO ONE HUNDRED (100) FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY OF ANY
WETLAND.
*** MS. BRESLIN SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** MS. KNIGHT MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE REVISED
REGULATION AS OF JULY 1, 2024.
*** MS. BRESLIN SECONDED THE AMENDMENT.
There was a discussion about when the revised amendment would be used for new
applications to the Conservation Commission which Ms. Williams said would be on July 1,
2024.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT; HEATHER BRESLIN
APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** NO ONE ABSTAINED.
b) #IWWR2-24 – Regulation Amendment - To revise paragraph (A.) and add new
subparagraph (B.(3)) of §60A-4 Permitted Operations and Uses regarding installation of
dry hydrants as required by Public Act 11-184; to revise paragraphs (A.) and (f.) of §60A-
11 Decision Process and Permit to add language regarding restrictions as to the time of
year activities may be conducted and permit expiration timelines to align with Public Act
12-151, and to change all references to Department of Environmental Protection" and
"DEP" to "Department of Energy and Environmental Protection" and "DEEP".
*** MR. KLOCKE MADE A MOTION TO REVISE PARAGRAPH (A.) AND ADD NEW
SUBPARAGRAPH (B.(3)) OF §60A-4 PERMITTED OPERATIONS AND USES REGARDING
INSTALLATION OF DRY HYDRANTS AS REQUIRED BY PUBLIC ACT 11-184; TO REVISE
PARAGRAPHS (A.) AND (F.) OF §60A-11 DECISION PROCESS AND PERMIT TO ADD
LANGUAGE REGARDING RESTRICTIONS AS TO THE TIME OF YEAR ACTIVITIES MAY
BE CONDUCTED AND PERMIT EXPIRATION TIMELINES TO ALIGN WITH PUBLIC ACT
12-151, AND TO CHANGE ALL REFERENCES TO DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION" AND "DEP" TO "DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION" AND "DEEP". THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD BE JULY, 1, 2024.
*** MS. KNIGHT SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT; HEATHER BRESLIN
APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** NO ONE ABSTAINED.
At this point in the meeting, the commission returned to RECEIPT & DISCUSSION
c) #S24-642 – 6 Range Road – DeBeradinis – Installation of in-ground pool
adjacent to a wetland and a watercourse
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Ms. Williams showed them the revised site plans. Marc Deberadinis explained that they
were now adding the pool to the plans. A permit was recently granted by the IWA for a new
house on this vacant lot. There would not be any removal of trees. This application did not
require a public hearing. Mr. Klocke asked that staff prepare a draft resolution for the next
meeting.
V. ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
a) #V24-1064 – 35 Weather Bell Drive – Pasquarella – Show-Cause Hearing –
Failure to meet directives of Order #V23-1058
Ms. Williams gave a brief introduction as to why the Order was issued. The applicant is
reapplying. She suggested that the deadlines be extended to September, so the applicant has
time to get the application in order.
Atty John Hall said for full disclosure that he had been the attorney for Mr. Klocke’s
house closing. Neither Mr. Klocke nor Mr. Hall thought there was a conflict of interest. He then
said that they were trying to determine where the wetlands were before the fill was placed. He
explained the process that they would pursue. He also noted that soil scientists said that
removal of the soil would not be the most prudent alternative. He believed that staff would not
agree with that. He would like to extend the deadlines so that they would have enough time to
submit a corrective action application.
There was a discussion about the type of survey to be provided. There was a
discussion about whether the applicant would fall under the new 100 ft. upland review area
regulation which would be effective on July 1. Ms. Williams said that would be a question for
Ms. Cherichetti. There was also a discussion about the topographic change chart.
At this point, the commissioners reviewed the directives of the Order and the dates that
the applicant should meet.
*** MR. KLOCKE MADE A MOTION TO UPHOLD AND AMEND THE CEASE AND
RESTORE ORDER #V24-1064 FOR 35 WEATHER BELL DRIVE WITH THE FOLLOWING
EDITS: UNDER THE DIRECTIVES ON PAGE 2, CHANGE TUESDAY, JULY 2, 2024 TO
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2024 AND THEN IN LINE 2, CHANGE THE DATE FROM
TUESDAY, AUGUST 6, 2024 TO TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2024.
*** MS. KNIGHT SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT; HEATHER BRESLIN
APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** NO ONE ABSTAINED.
VIII. RELEASE OR REDUCTION OF BOND
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a) #S24-631 – 207 West Rocks Road – O’Connor – Reduction of bond ($550 of
$2880 total) held for corrective action restoration of a wetland and buffer
Ms. Williams said that staff recommended the reduction and that the work had been
completed. The remainder is being held for the plantings to go through 2 growing seasons.
*** MR. KLOCKE MADE A MOTION FOR THE REDUCTION OF BOND ($550 OF $2880
TOTAL) HELD FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION RESTORATION OF A WETLAND AND
BUFFER.
*** MS. BRESLIN SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT; HEATHER BRESLIN
APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** NO ONE ABSTAINED.
IX. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a) May 28, 2024 meeting minutes
*** MS. BROWN MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 28, 2024 .
*** MS. KNIGHT SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** STEVE KLOCKE; CHERYL BROWN; KATHRYN KNIGHT APPROVED.
*** NO ONE OPPOSED THE MOTION.
*** HEATHER BRESLIN ABSTAINED.
X. CONSERVATION COMMISSION ITEMS
a) White Barns Conservation Restriction Area – proposal for limited work
(removal of five (5) hazardous trees) within the Conservation Restriction Area –
Confirmation of consistency with the intent of Conservation Restriction said that
Ms. Williams said that Ms. Cherichetti had visited the site. Five trees would be removed
within the restricted easement area. Ms. Williams said that the commission had to sign off for
the staff to be able to handle this through a declaratory ruling. She showed them a list of trees
which included the ones that they are requesting to be removed. Mr. Klocke said that the
commission did not mind the staff handling this matter. Ms. Knight if some could be replaced. If
this is a requirement, then the applicant would have to amend the plan.
XI. CONSERVATION INITIATIVES
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Mr. Klocke said that there was an Open Space Inventory which Ms. Breslin said she
would be interested in learning more.
XII. COMMENTS OF STAFF
a) Report of the Senior Environmental Officer
There were no comments from Ms. Williams.
XIII. COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
a) Report of the Commission Chair
There were no comments from Mr. Klocke.
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
*** MR. KLOCKE MADE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
*** MS. BRESLIN SECONDED THE MOTION.
*** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Meeting adjourned at 7:44 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Diana Palmentiero
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Agenda
MEETING NOTICE & AGENDA
CONSERVATION COMMISSION/ INLAND WETLAND AGENCY
will meet TUESDAY, June 25, 2024 at 6:00 p.m.
by Videoconference and Teleconference
For public access, anyone may access a meeting by telephone, Zoom, and/or the City of Norwalk YouTube channel.
Specific instructions and links can be found at https://www.norwalkct.org/1913/Meeting-Notices.
Members of the public can call in and listen to a meeting. They will not be able to speak or see any of the meeting
participants. Each meeting will use a unique Meeting/Webinar ID. Please find the information using the link above.
Members of the public who wish to provide "live comments" during a public hearing will need to register in advance and
use the Zoom meeting platform. All participants will be muted upon entering the meeting. To speak, click the “raise your
hand indicator” and you will called on by the host of the meeting during the public hearing section. Please find the
information using the link above.
The meeting recording and minutes will be posted on the City of Norwalk website within seven (7) days after the meeting.
Members of the public who wish to provide public comment on a specific application are encouraged to submit those via
email in advance of the meeting. For these comments to be read into the record, they should be submitted at least three
hours in advance of the meeting start time. Please email Alexis Cherichetti at ACherichetti@norwalkct.org to provide
written public comment prior to the meeting.
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. PUBLIC COMMENT
IV. RECEIPT & DISCUSSION
a) #S24-640 – 2 Lloyd Road – Jay Fain & Associates, LLC – Corrective Action piping and filling of a
watercourse
b) #S24-641 – 4 Singing Woods Road – William Kenny Associates, LLC - Corrective Action removal of
fill from a wetland and construction of a new SFR adjacent to a wetland
c) #S24-642 – 6 Range Road – DeBeradinis – Installation of in-ground pool adjacent to a wetland and a
watercourse
V. ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
a) #V24-1064 – 35 Weather Bell Drive – Pasquarella – Show-Cause Hearing – Failure to meet
directives of Order #V23-1058
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS (begins at 7:00 p.m.)
a) #IWWR1-24 – Regulation Amendment – To revise definition of Regulated Activity in §60A-2
Definitions; revision would change the upland review area to one hundred (100) feet from the boundary
of any wetland.
b) #IWWR2-24 – Regulation Amendment - To revise paragraph (A.) and add new subparagraph (B.(3))
of §60A-4 Permitted Operations and Uses regarding installation of dry hydrants as required by Public
Act 11-184; to revise paragraphs (A.) and (f.) of §60A-11 Decision Process and Permit to add language
regarding restrictions as to the time of year activities may be conducted and permit expiration timelines
to align with Public Act 12-151, and to change all references to Department of Environmental
Protection" and "DEP" to "Department of Energy and Environmental Protection" and "DEEP".
VII. DISCUSSION &/OR DECISION
a) #IWWR1-24 – Regulation Amendment – To revise definition of Regulated Activity in §60A-2
Definitions; revision would change the upland review area to one hundred (100) feet from the boundary
of any wetland.
b) #IWWR2-24 – Regulation Amendment - To revise paragraph (A.) and add new subparagraph (B.(3))
of §60A-4 Permitted Operations and Uses regarding installation of dry hydrants as required by Public
Act 11-184; to revise paragraphs (A.) and (f.) of §60A-11 Decision Process and Permit to add language
regarding restrictions as to the time of year activities may be conducted and permit expiration timelines
to align with Public Act 12-151, and to change all references to Department of Environmental
Protection" and "DEP" to "Department of Energy and Environmental Protection" and "DEEP".
VIII. RELEASE OR REDUCTION OF BOND
a) #S24-631 – 207 West Rocks Road – O’Connor – Reduction of bond ($550 of $2880 total) held for
corrective action restoration of a wetland and buffer
IX. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a) May 28, 2024 meeting minutes
X. CONSERVATION COMMISSION ITEMS
a) White Barns Conservation Restriction Area – proposal for limited work (removal of five (5)
hazardous trees) within the Conservation Restriction Area – Confirmation of consistency with the intent
of Conservation Restriction
XI. CONSERVATION INITIATIVES
XII. COMMENTS OF STAFF
a) Report of the Senior Environmental Officer
XIII. COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
a) Report of the Commission Chair
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
To view Wetland Permit application materials, go to:
https://www.norwalkct.org/1956/Permit-Applications
Upcoming Meetings:
July 9, 2024 & July 23, 2024