Harbor Commission (Application Review Committee)
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · June 25, 2020
Minutes
CITY OF NORWALK
HARBOR MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
APPLICATION REVIEW COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MEETING
JUNE 25, 2020
ATTENDANCE: Dr. John Pinto, Committee Chair; Alan Kibbe, Chris
MacDonnell, John Romano
OTHERS: John Crespo, Tony Mobilia, Jeffrey Mangels, Dennis Santella,
Geoff Steadman, Consultant; Steve Bartush, Shellfish
Commission; Joe Schnierlein, Water Quality; Atty. Elizabeth
Suchy, Carmody Torrance Sandak & Hennessey, LLP; Brian
Baker, Planning and Zoning; Dean Martin Anchor Engineering.
This meeting was conducted by Zoom/Teleconference.
The public was able to listen to this meeting by calling a conference line.
CALL TO ORDER
Dr. Pinto called the Application Review Committee meeting to order at 5:03 p.m. A
quorum was present.
1. 310 Wilson Ave., CAM Revised Plan Application and application for a
Special Permit, WEB construction, LLC. The applicant proposes to re-develop
a currently vacant property as a contractors’ yard for outdoor material storage
located on a “previously disturbed” and developed area. The property is served by
City sewer and water. Storage of materials will comply with FEMA minimum
flood elevations. A new on-site storm water retention system consisting of a catch
basin and oil separator is proposed and is accompanied by other utilities and
landscaping. The revised plans incorporate comments from Norwalk Zoning staff
and John Gaucher of DEEP. All proposed work/activity is landward of the coastal
jurisdiction line (CJL). The following revisions have been made: removal of a 20’
block wall to be replaced with a low curb and additional filter fabric. Previous
landscaping and fence with privacy slats will remain based on discussion with
John Gaucher at DEEP.
Atty. Suchy explained that the change that was made to the application was a result of
comments from Mr. Gaucher at DEEP even though the area involved is located outside of
the DEEP’s jurisdiction. There is no activity or plans for the area in DEEP’s jurisdiction.
The 20-foot high wall will be removed and replaced with a 8 inch high curb. There will
be a fence to protect the materials from migrating to the neighboring site or onto tidal
wetlands.
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Mr. Steadman asked if there had been a public hearing date had been set. Atty. Suchy
said that the hearing was scheduled for July 15th.
Mr. Steadman said that Atty. Suchy had stated that Mr. Gaucher’s comments did not
involve the area under DEEP’s jurisdiction. Mr. Steadman said that he understood that
Mr. Gaucher was authorized to comment on the application as part of the CAM review.
The existing wall constituted a mandatory referral to his office for comments.
Atty. Suchy said that her comment was that the activity was located outside of the
jurisdictional line, which means the activity is outside of the area for review. However,
the applicant did respond to Mr. Gaucher’s comments. The application was sent to Mr.
Gaucher by the Harbor Management Commission and in light of this, Atty. Suchy said
the applicant had responded and adjusted the plan accordingly. The wall was deemed to
be a structure that was inappropriate, resulting in its reduction to a curb.
Mr. Steadman asked if the engineers were confident that the curb would be sufficient to
contain the run-off from the area. Atty. Suchy replied that Mr. Dean Martin had review it
and also noted that there was filter fabric around it along with a 15-foot access way
between the area and the wall. The edge of the processed materials is not immediately
adjacent to the wetlands.
Dr. Pinto asked Mr. Steadman if the issue had to do with flood plain hazard zones and the
certification of a flood zone. Atty. Suchy said that she believed that the changes do
address the certification requirements.
Mr. Romano asked about the issue of filter fabric there which could result in a collection
of water in the area that should go through a leaching system and a curtain drain. Atty.
Suchy said that there had been a discussion about having filter fabric along the length of
the wall, but no mention of any additional drainage for storm water. The proposed
changes have been already reviewed.
Discussion followed about possibly have a rain garden or additional mitigation measures
to prevent heavy metals from leaching into the creek. Atty. Suchy said that she did not
recall discussion about additional filtering measures. Mr. Steadman said his
understanding was that the applicant would provide additional information about how the
storm water would be discharged from the site into the wetland area. He pointed out that
there was a second round of discussion which Atty. Suchy was not involved with and this
was when the concerns were mentioned.
Atty. Suchy said the applicant did provide a brief memo from Anchor Engineering about
the general permit process and requirements were. She said that she would recommend
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that Anchor Engineering to keep the Commission advised of the status. Mr. Romano said
that the concern was regarding arsenic possibly leaching into the wetlands.
Dr. Pinto asked if the Industrial Storm Water General Permit has been issued. Atty.
Suchy said that it had not. Discussion followed about the details regarding the letter to the
Conservation Committee.
An aerial view of the proposed site was displayed on screen. Atty. Such apologized for
the fact that the engineer, Mr. Martin, was not available to discuss the details of the
drainage plan. She read the portion of the previously submitted report to the
Commissioners.
Mr. Steadman asked if the conditions of approval would include the maintenance of the
storm water run-off and ongoing monitoring of the effluent and whether those would be
attached by the Zoning Commission or by the DEEP general permit. Atty. Suchy said
that as part of the original November 21, 2019 application filing, there was operational
maintenance plan which included a number of requirements and obligations imposed
upon the operator from the Zoning Commission if approved for a Special Permit. The
operational maintenance plan has not been changed at all. There also was a drainage
report dated March 6, 2020 submitted to the Commission. Both of these plans were
submitted prior to the proposed changes to the wall.
Mr. Steadman said that the Harbor Commission wanted to reserve their right to comment
on the material submitted to DEEP. He wished to reiterate the comments that were made
at the last meeting regarding perpetual maintenance and monitoring of the effluent.
Discussion followed about protecting the wetlands and aquatic area from runoff.
Atty. Suchy informed the Committee members that all the plans were currently being
reviewed by Mr. Tom Little of DPW and the questions that Mr. Steadman was raising
were the ones that Mr. Little will be looking at. She added that she would advise Anchor
Engineering that when they apply for the DEEP permit that they should forward a copy
of that to Dr. Pinto.
Mr. Steadman pointed out that making a finding that this is consistent with the Harbor
Management Plan as opposed to having no objection to it would indicate that the Harbor
Commission felt it was an improvement to the storm water management in this area.
Discussion followed.
Mr. Dean Martin joined the meeting and gave a brief overview of the rainwater
management. He noted that the plan had the water filtering through rock along the
surface of the storage yard area. There have been comments from DPW about requiring
additional water filtration. This is being prepared right now and will include additional
retention and filtration.
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Mr. Bartush had a question regarding the details of the system, which Mr. Martin
answered for him. A site plan of the proposed project was displayed on screen.
Mr. Steadman had some questions about the wall. Mr. Martin explained that the 20-foot
height had been to allow the operator to cover the piles and had nothing to do with storm
water management.
The discussion moved to the fact that the site was basically flat and would have to be
pitched to allow water drainage. There will be standard catch basins with filter fabric
under the grate. That would require maintenance. This will be added to the operation and
maintenance plan, along with the silt fence maintenance. Discussion followed about the
details involving the millings and test bores. Mr. Macdonnell asked that the report from
the test pilling that was done for the drainage be shared with the Commission. Mr.
Martin said that it would be.
Mr. Steadman asked if the City had approved a recent moratorium on contractor’s yards.
Mr. Martin said that this application had been submitted before the moratorium had been
approved.
Mr. Steadman expressed concerns about the contractor’s yard being right next to the
wetlands.
Mr. McDonnell pointed out that the comments appear to be based on environmental
concerns and he was not sure that DPW would address that level of impact. He said that
DPW’s concerns were based on the quantity of flow and not about particulate matter. Dr.
Pinto said that the certification for industrial waste water had a list of various substances.
Mr. Steadman asked Dr. Pinto to check with DEEP about this.
The discussion moved to the approval process and the certificate timeline requirements.
Mr. Steadman listed the various concerns expressed in a previous letter as follows:
The proposed site improvements should be carefully reviewed by the engineering
division to assess the adequacy of the proposed Flood plain fill and grading to
meet FEMA requirements. The proposed storm water infiltration, retention and
discharge plants to avoid impact on tidal wetlands in Village Creek.
There are also concerns about run off of heavy metals from newly crushed stone
and as a result a requirement for appropriate sampling and testing of the runoff
should be included in any storm water management plant that may be considered
for the property.
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As a condition of approval of any storm water management system, the Zoning
Board should require the owner or operator to operate or to maintain the system in
accordance with regularly scheduled maintenance procedures and to properly
dispose of all accumulated residue and debris.
The Commission reserves its right to review the submittal that the applicant is
providing to DEEP for compliance with the Storm Water Management General
Permit And to make any appropriate recommendations In the course of that
registration.
Mr. Steadman noted that DEEP does not have a standard set back for tidal wetlands for
this sort of development. He repeated his concern regarding reserving the right to make
additional comments.
Dr. Pinto said that the Application Review had made a previous statement and had no
problem moving forward.
Mr. Steadman said that he would be cautious about having a contractor’s yard close to the
tidal wetlands as it could be perceived as being consistent with the Harbor Management
Plan.
** MR. MCDONNELL MOVED TO EXPRESS NO OBJECTION AT THIS TIME
WITH THE FOLLOWING CAVEATS:
THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE CAREFULLY
REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERING DIVISION TO ASSESS THE
ADEQUACY OF THE PROPOSED FLOOD PLAIN FILL AND GRADING
TO MEET FEMA REQUIREMENTS. THE PROPOSED STORM WATER
INFILTRATION, RETENTION AND DISCHARGE PLANTS TO AVOID
IMPACT ON TIDAL WETLANDS IN VILLAGE CREEK.
THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT RUN OFF OF HEAVY
METALS FROM NEWLY CRUSHED STONE AND AS A RESULT A
REQUIREMENT FOR APPROPRIATE SAMPLING AND TESTING OF
THE RUNOFF SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ANY STORM WATER
MANAGEMENT PLANT THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR THE
PROPERTY.
AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF ANY STORM WATER
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE ZONING BOARD SHOULD REQUIRE
THE OWNER OR OPERATOR TO OPERATE OR TO MAINTAIN THE
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SYSTEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH REGULARLY SCHEDULED
MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES AND TO PROPERLY DISPOSE OF
ALL ACCUMULATED RESIDUE AND DEBRIS.
THE COMMISSION RESERVES ITS RIGHT TO REVIEW THE
SUBMITTAL THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING TO DEEP FOR
COMPLIANCE WITH THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT
GENERAL PERMIT AND TO MAKE ANY APPROPRIATE
RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE COURSE OF THAT REGISTRATION.
** MR. KIBBE SECONDED.
Atty. Suchy said that she would forward any additional information that comes in and
will ask the engineer to forward the DEEP information to the Commission. Dr. Pinto
said that he would share any information with the Commission.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. DOT Walk Bridge Construction Proposal. Update to include and utilize Manresa
Island as a staging and storage area.
3. DOT’s plans on relocation of Maritime Aquarium and Seaport Association
excursion vessels. Discussion of latest video docking demonstration held June 17th at
the Walk Bridge Construction site.
Dr. Pinto said that he asked the DOT to attend the meeting to discuss the modifications
that they had made regarding Manresa Island and the positioning of the vessels between
the bridges. The Commission had a number of questions about both issues.
** DR. PINTO MOVED TO TRANSMIT THE FOLLOWING REQUEST THAT
THE DEEP FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS AS DISCUSSED AT THE
NORWALK HARBOR MANAGEMENT MEETING ON JUNE 25TH TAKE NO
ACTION ON THE DOT’S SUBSTANTIALLY REVISED PERMIT
APPLICATION FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE WALK BRIDGE UNTIL SUCH
TIME AS:
THE DOT DESCRIBES THE REVISIONS TO THE NORWALK HARBOR
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE NORWALK SHELLFISH
COMMISSION DURING THE PUBLIC MEETING OR MEETINGS FOR
THAT PURPOSE; HEARS AND DISCUSSES QUESTIONS FROM THE
TWO COMMISSIONS AND DEEP CONSIDERS TIMELY, WRITTEN
COMMENTS PROVIDED TO DEEP AND THE DOT BY THE
NORWALK HARBOR MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE
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NORWALK SHELLFISH COMMISSION. THIS IS ALL IN
PREPARATION FOR THE APPLICATION THAT THE DOT PLANS TO
SUBMIT TO THE DEEP ON JUNE 26, 2020. WE HAVE NOT HAD A
CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT APPLICATION NOR HAVE THEY
DISCUSSED THE PLANS WITH US IN ANY SATISFACTION.
THE DOT HAS INFORMED THE NORWALK HARBOR
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE NORWALK SHELLFISH
COMMISSION THAT DOT HAS SUBSTANTIALLY AMENDED THE
PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED APPLICATION FOR REPLACEMENT OF
THE WALK BRIDGE. AMONG THE CHANGES INCLUDED IN THE
REVISED APPLICATION ARE PLANS TO UTILIZE A PORTION OF
MANRESA ISLAND AS A PROJECT STAGING AREA. A VIRTUAL
PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE 16, 2020 TO DISCUSS THESE
PLANS AND THE DOT INFORMED THE PUBLIC THAT PUBLIC
COMMENTS WOULD BE ACCEPTED UNTIL JULY 3, 2020.
THE NORWALK HARBOR MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE
NORWALK SHELLFISH COMMISSION SUBMITTED QUESTIONS
DURING THAT PUBLIC MEETING. THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE NOT
BEEN RESPONDED TO ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR APPLICATION ON JUNE 26, 2020
BEFORE THE CLOSURE OF THE ANNOUNCED PUBLIC COMMENT
PERIOD AND POSSIBLY WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE PUBLIC
COMMENTS SUBMITTED.
ON JUNE 17TH, THE DOT CONDUCTED A DOCKING AND
MANEUVERABILITY EXERCISE INVOLVING THE NORWALK
MARITIME AQUARIUM AND THE NORWALK SEAPORT
ASSOCIATION VESSELS IN SUPPORT OF THE DOT’S PROPOSED
VESSEL RELOCATION PLANS. NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
CONCERNING THIS EXERCISE HAS SINCE BEEN PROVIDED TO
THE NORWALK HARBOR MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE
HARBOR MASTER. PREVIOUSLY, NORWALK HARBOR
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE HARBOR MASTER
REQUESTED THAT A PROFESSIONAL RISK ASSESSMENT BE
CONDUCTED TO DEFINE AND ASSESS THE RISK INVOLVED IN THE
PROPOSED VESSEL OPERATIONS, IDENTIFY HAZARDS AND
DEVELOP, IF POSSIBLE, MITIGATING ACTIONS TO REDUCE THE
ACKNOWLEDGE RISK, WHICH THEY HAVE NOT DONE.
ON JUNE 25, 2020, THE DOT INFORMED THE NORWALK HARBOR
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND THE NORWALK SHELLFISH
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COMMISSION THAT A REVISED PERMIT APPLICATION WOULD BE
SUBMITTED TO THE DEEP ON JUNE 26, 2020 AND THAT THE DOT
WAS PREPARED TO MAKE PRESENTATION TO THE TWO
COMMISSIONS DURING OR ABOUT THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST.
FOR THESE REASONS AND THE FAILURE OF THE DOT TO RESPOND TO
THE COMMISSION’S QUESTIONS, CONCERNS AND ISSUES.
** MR. ROMANO SECONDED.
**THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
** MR. ROMANO MOVED TO HAVE THE HARBOR MANAGEMENT
COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST THAT THE DEEP FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASONS AS DISCUSSED AT THE PLAN REVIEW
COMMITTEE MEETING.
** MR. MOBILIA SECONDED.
**THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT.
Dr. Pinto adjourned the Application Review Committee meeting at 6:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
S. L. Soltes
Telesco Secretarial Services
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Agenda
Norwalk Harbor Management Commission
and
Application Review Committee Meetings
Thursday June 25, 2020
5:00 PM
VIRTUAL MEETING TO BE HELD ONLINE
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Agenda
5:00 PM - APPLICATION REVIEW - committee members only- Pinto
1. 310 Wilson Avenue, CAM Revised Plan Application and application for special
permit, WEB Construction, LLC. The applicant proposes to re-develop a currently
vacant property as a contractor’s yard for outdoor material storage located on a “previously
disturbed” and developed area. The property is served by city sewer and water. Storage of
materials will comply with FEMA minimum flood elevation. A new on-site stormwater
retention system consisting of a catch basin and oil separator is proposed and is
accompanied by other utilities and landscaping. The revised plans incorporate comments
from Norwalk Zoning Staff and John Gaucher of DEEP. All proposed work/activity is
landward of the coastal jurisdiction line (CJL). The following revision have been made:
removal of the 20’ block wall and replacement with low curb and additional filter fabric.
Previous landscaping and fence with privacy slats will remain based on discussion with
John Gaucher at DEEP.
2. DOT Walk Bridge Construction Proposal. Update to include and utilize
Manresa Island as a staging and storage area.
3. DOT’s plans on relocation of Maritime Aquarium and Seaport Association excursion vessels.
Discussion of latest video docking demonstration held June 17th 2020 at the Walk Bridge
Construction site.
Standing Action Items: DOT’s Plans to relocation of Maritime Aquarium and Seaport Association
excursion vessels. Open discussion of future Walk Bridge proposals regarding placement of transmission cables
by Eversource and DOT, DOT’s plans for stationing work barges in Norwalk Harbor;
DOT’s plans to monitor water quality.
5:45 PM - Full Commission
1. Call to Order/Pledge
2. Roll Call
3. Chairman’s Report - Romano
4. Staff Reports:
a. Harbor Master - Scully
b. Consultant - Steadman
5. Shellfish Commission - Johnson, Bartush
6. Committee Reports:
a. Application Review
b. Mooring and Harbor Safety - Santella
c. Finance - Mobilia
d. Plans and Recommendations - Mangels
e. Newsletter / Web site - Kibbe
f. Water Quality - Crespo / Schnierlein
g. Bridges - Mobilia - Report covered within other committee reports
7. Public Comment
8. Approval of Minutes
9. Adjournment
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