Joint Services Study Group
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · January 28, 2010
Minutes
Joint Services Study Group 1/28/2010 Minutes (Draft)
CITY OF NORWALK
JOINT SERVICES STUDY GROUP
BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION/BOARD OF EDUCATION
JANUARY 28, 2010
ATTENDANCE: Fredrich Wilms, Chairman; Leo Mellow; Jody Bishop-Pullan,
Glenn Iannaccone
STAFF:
City of Norwalk: Thomas Hamilton, Director of Finance;
Ossie Lewis, Director of Management/Budgets;
Board of Ed: Dr. Dan Cook, Interim Chief of Operations;
George Giannitti, Financial Services/Purchasing Agent
OTHERS: Dr. Lynn Moore, West Rocks Middle School
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Wilms called the meeting to order at 5:35 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
** MR. IANNACONE MOTIONED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE
MEETING OF DECEMBER 3, 2009 AS PRESENTED.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Recycling at City and Board of Education Facilities
Dr. Cook provided an overview and stated that he, Mr. Wilms and Mr. Giannitti attended
the “start-up” day at Rowayton Elementary School and were very impressed with how
well the pilot has gone. He asked George Giannitti describe the program, and he stated
that there are levels of recycling that start with cafeteria cans/bottles, then trays, then
office paper, followed by full classroom recycling. Mr. Giannitti reported that Fox Run
and Wolfpit schools are up and running, and next will be Marvin, then middle schools,
followed by the high schools, which are doing cafeteria cans/bottles. He reported that
there has already been an 80% reduction in general trash and an increase in recyclables
that should amount to a large savings for the District, as well as the City.
Mr. Alvord explained that there is a savings of $47.50 for each less dumpster pull,
multiplied for each week, times all schools amounts to thousands of dollars in garbage
pick up savings. In addition the recyclables are sold at $17.50 per ton, which is another
City budget savings.
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Mr. Hamilton asked about the high schools, and Mr. Giannitti explained that each school
varies with their procedures and he works with the Principals to accommodate what
works best for their cafeteria layout. He added that the Principals and Environmental
Clubs have been very cooperative and the program is well on track,
Dr. Cook suggested that a reward be issued to each school for their participation in the
new recycling program, and Mr. Wilms added that he was also thinking along those same
lines, in terms of a $500 “incentive” or allocation to help supplement funding for field
trips or enrichment programs.
Mr. Wilms asked Mr. Alvord if there were any barriers from the DPW perspective, and
Mr. Alvord responded that all is working well with the cooperative efforts by the schools
and the City. He added that he has blue bins available and can upgrade the outside
containers to the larger barrel type if needed. He commented that there was a tremendous
educational value for students to take home the benefits of recycling and added that he
has been impressed with the school resources that have been focused to the program.
Printing Services
Mr. Wilms asked Dr. Cook to update the group on the status of the printing services
consolidation efforts, and Dr. stated that they have been in negotiations with Corporation
Counsel regarding the Xerox contract. He added that he is not in a position to release the
numbers, but that would be announced at the next BOE meeting.
Dr. Cook stated that it looks to be a favorable position of negotiating a more economic
service agreement; that they are looking at relocating the Copy Center back to City Hall
where efforts of consolidating copying needs with the schools and City departments can
take place. He stated that already they have been able to save the Registrar of Voters a
good deal of money by including them with their copy services.
Dr. Cook added that Mr. Foley has been very helpful with issuing the RFPs and assisting
Mr. Giannitti with outsourcing information. He added that it will be a homerun for
everyone with ultimately a more efficient system of consolidation of copying and printing
services.
Mr. Wilms asked Mr. Hamilton for an update on the payroll improvements and Mr.
Hamilton said that one consideration was whether the City should outsource the
payroll system. He said that while MUNIS has its flaws, the payroll portion does work,
but the new time and attendance portion needs to be fixed first before automation can be
implemented.
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Mr. Hamilton said that there were some cities that combined outsourcing and with in-
house processing. He pointed out that one thing for municipalities is that the maintenance
of the various tables and pay scales when union clauses are renegotiated and changed.
Mr. Hamilton said that it would make some sense to look at outsourcing the services, and
it would give the City a benchmark for comparison, and if there were an-in house payroll
solution, he would like to use MUNIS.
A brief discussion followed about whether this should be done now or wait until after the
next twelve months when the gathering of data has been automated. Mr. Hamilton said
that there was more work to do internally before anything can be determined, and
suggested that the item be kept on the agenda for further discussion as the results of the
new time and attendance systems are implemented and evaluation data becomes
available.
Mr. Wilms stated that he is very encouraged with the level of cooperation with the City,
Finance Department, and the Purchasing Department in working together to save money
for the City.
Discussion Concerning 2010-2011 Budget
Mr. Wilms asked Mr. Hamilton for an update on the 2010-11 Budget and Mr. Hamilton
stated that the capital budget is due to be out next Monday. He added that the Operating
Budget will be out the following week, scheduled to be released at the February 8 BOE
meeting. He stated that the BET has met with the BOE Finance Committee and that it is
going to be a difficult budget year, and tat extraordinary steps are needed from both sides
to preserve services. He added that the process culminates with the Council setting the
budget cap, and the reconciliation process gets negotiated and evaluated with all levels
plus City bargaining groups.
Mr. Hamilton commented on the directive that the Council fully expects a zero percent
increase, which has been communicated to all City Departments and Committees and it
has been suggested that the reconciliation process be started sooner rather that later, once
the Council has set the CAP. Mr. Wilms stated that he cannot see how the City is going
to reach this goal without having a tax increase, and Mr. Hamilton stated that there very
well may have to be a slight increase in taxes.
Mr. Wilms added that there is no magic, but that it is an accumulative process of cutting
and saving and it all depends how it all adds up, but that unfortunately the measure of
success is that no one is happy.
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New Business
Mr. Wilms said that he would like to keep the momentum going to further address areas
of consolidation and duplication avoidance with City and Board of Education services.
He added that it may be time to look toward the next challenge and suggested that the
group review the list of joint services and select the next area to address for consolidation
efforts.
Ms. Bishop-Pullan stated that depending on the area, there could be union issues or other
limitations and suggested that Mr. Wilms guide the committee on the parameters for each
area. Mr. Wilms stated that he would provide the group with a copy of the list of joint
services analysis for them to review and bring to the next meeting their thoughts on what
should be next on the “to be addressed” list.
Adjournment
** MR. WILMS MOVED TO ADJOURN.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Marilyn Knox
Telesco Secretarial Services
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