Mayor's Water Quality Committee
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · September 7, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF NORWALK
MAYOR’S WATER QUALITY COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 7, 2023
ATTENDANCE: Joe Schnierlein, Chairman; Diane Lauricella; Dick Harris; John Crespo; Steve Bartush;
Geoffry Steadman
OTHER: Dr. John Pinto; William Mooney
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schnierlein called the meeting to order at 6:02 P.M. There was a quorum present.
ROLL CALL
A roll call of those present was performed.
COMMUNICATIONS
DEEP – ANY ONE
Mr. Steadman reported that he had talked with D.E.E.P. about the status of the review of the Eversource
permit application. He said that they should not anticipate a public notice about the tentative
determination to approve it and they had more reviews to do. He said that D.E.E.P. intends to require
Eversource to post a performance bond. Further discussion followed. There has also been an update to
the status of D.E.E.P’s review of the proposed amendment to the POCD. The letter is still being
developed.
DEPT. OF AQUACULTURE OR HEALTH DEPT. – STATUS FOR VIBRIO
Mr. Mooney reported that there had not been any notifications regarding the status of Vibrio. There had
been a CDC advisory that had gone out recently regarding concern for increased cases.
HARBOR COMMISSION –GEOFF OR
Mr. Steadman reported that there was a proposal by the DoT to work on route 7 that was of interest.
PLANNING AND ZONING – DICK HARRIS
Mr. Harris reported that there had been a sampling study for PFOS that was 3,600 pages long. He
provided an overview of what was in the report for those present.
DPW – TREATMENT PLANT TOUR – CANCELLED.
Efforts have been made to break the tour into two separate visits.
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OLD BUSINESS
DIRECTORY OF WHO TO CALL - DIANE
Ms. Lauricella said she had reached out to Planning & Zoning and Mr. Mooney to collect their complaint
forms.
NEW BUSINESS
POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES -STILL INTENT ON MULTIPLE FAMILY HOUSING ON WATER ST. AND
CONFLICT WITH DEVELOPING ON SITES KNOW FOR HAZARDOUS WASTE.
Mr. Steadman provided the Harbor Commissions recommendations for review. He said that the Harbor
Management Commission was not able to make a favorable recommendation concerning the proposed
POCD amendment. Review of the reasons followed. He provided photos of flooding on Water Street for
those present. Further discussion regarding Water Street followed. Ms. Lauricella noted that there were
still questions regarding the existence or absence of contamination. She provided further information
including the discovery of several barrels. Further discussion followed.
** MS. LAURICELLA MOVED THAT THE WATER QUALITY COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES THAT THE LAND
USE PLANNING AND REGULATIONS ARE CONNECTED TO WATER QUALITY MATTERS IN MULTIPLE
WAYS. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE WATERFRONT DOES AND HAS REMAINED A VITAL ASSET. THE LAND
USE STUDY CONTAINS MAIN VALUABLE DETAILS BUT TWO MAJOR ITEMS ARE IN NEED OF ATTENTION
AND AMENDMENT. THE WATER QUALITY COMMITTEE WILL WRITE A LETTER TO THE MAYORS OFFICE
AND PLANNING AND ZONING TO REQUEST THAT THE INDUSTRIAL WATERFRONT ZONE LAND USE
STUDY ADOPTION BE REJECTED AND PLACED ON HOLD UNTIL THE FOLLOWING MATTERS ARE
DISCUSSED WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND OTHERS AND AMENDED:
1. THE CONTAMINATED SITES IN THE STUDY AREA.
2. TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE ITEMS IN THE LETTER WRITTEN BY THE HARBOR COMMISSION
RELATED TO THE QUESTION OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND REDUCTION OF
FUTURE MARINE DISTRICT EXPANSION.
** MR. BARTUSH SECONDED THE MOTION.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WITH AN ADDITIONAL ‘YES’ VOTE FROM MR. BARTUSH’S CAT.
Discussion followed regarding the placement of a school within the flood plane as well as other
development projects within flood plains. Mr. Steadman provided a flood insurance map for review.
RT 7 AND MERRITT INTERCHANGE DEVELOPMENT. NO MENTION OF IMPACT ON SILVERMINE R. AND
NORWALK R. WATERSHEDS.
Chairman Schnierlein provided an overview of the item for those present. Mr. Steadman noted that they
had missed the deadline for submitting public comments. He provided a review of the project for those
present. Further discussion followed.
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CLIMATE CHANGE, HEAT, AND WQ: BRIEF GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT CURRENT AND NEAR-FUTURE
EFFECTS – DIANE’S REQUEST
Ms. Lauricella said that she felt that one of their roles was to offer the mayor and the City resources
related to the role that climate change is making on water quality and quantity. She suggested a webinar
to discuss these things before the end of the year. Chairman Schneirlein said he would be happy to
provide information.
ANYTHING ELSE?
There was nothing else at this time.
PUBLIC COMMENTS IF TIME PERMITS
There were no Public Comments at this time.
READING AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM 8-3-2023.
** MR. STEADMAN MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF 08/03/2023 AS SUBMITTED.
** MR. BARTUSH SECONDED THE MOTION.
** THE MOTION PASSED WITH FIVE (5) IN FAVOR (SCHNEIRLEIN, STEADMAN, HARRIS, LAURICELLA,
CRESPO) AND ONE (1) ABSTENTION (BARTUSH).
NEXT MEETING IS OCT. 5, 2023
ADJOURNMENT
** MR. BARTUSH MOVED TO ADJOURN.
** MR. STEADMAN SECONDED THE MOTION.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
The meeting adjourned at 6:48 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted
Ian A. Soltes
Telesco Secretarial Services
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Agenda
Mayor’s Water Quality Committee Agenda
For Sept. 7, 2023
a) Call to order:
b) Roll call: Steve Bartush,, Diane Lauricella, Dick Harris, Bill Mooney,
Harry Rilling, Joe Schnierlein, Geoff Steadman, Louise Washer
c) Communications:
DEEP – any one
Dept. of Aquaculture or Health Dept. – status for Vibrio
Harbor Commission –Geoff or
Planning and Zoning –
Dick Harris
DPW – treatment plant tour – cancelled.
d) Old Business –
Directory of who to call - Diane
e) New Business
a) Potential zoning changes -still intent on multiple family housing on
Water St. and conflict with developing on sites know for hazardous
waste.
b) Rt 7 and Merritt interchange development. No mention of impact
on Silvermine R. and Norwalk R. watersheds.
c) Climate change, heat, and WQ: Brief general discussion about
current and near-future effects – Diane’s Request
d) Anything else?
f) Public Comments if time permits
g) Reading and approval of minutes from 8-3-2023. See below.
h) Next meeting is Oct. 5, 2023.
i) Adjournment.
CITY OF NORWALK
MAYOR’S WATER QUALITY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 3, 2023
Joe Schnierlein, Chairman; Dick Harris, Diane Lauricella, Geoff Steadman
William Mooney, Health Department
The meeting was held via Zoom teleconference.
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Schnierlein called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL
The roll was called. A quorum was present.
COMMUNICATIONS
DEEP – any one
Mr. Harris gave a very brief overview of the testing costs and their results. Mr. Harris said that
they had done some comparative testing of the more expensive (York) and least expensive
(Cyclopure) testing kits by the well fields near the new playing fields. The least expensive test
yields test results at about 2/3rd of the results from the more expensive test kit results. He gave
the details.
Dept. of Aquaculture – Steve or Geoff, sampling for Vibrio – Joe
Mr. Steadman said that they had not received written communications from DEEP, there have
been discussions with the DEEP staff about the Walk Bridge and potential damage to the
shellfish resources. There have also been conversations about the Harbor Master’s authority.
Mr. Schnierlein said that he had recently encouraged two Aquaculture staff members at the
beach and spoke with them about his concerns about Vibrio. The Department of Health had
issued warnings about Vibrio. There has been one death and two others had developed
infections. The victim who passed away had eaten shellfish from another state. The other two
victims had been wading in the water with open sores on their legs. Mr. Schnierlein asked Mr.
Steadman to send the statement to all the Committee members.
Dept. of Health – Bill
Mr. Mooney said that the testing at the 15 beach sites had all been good. There have been no
reported cases of swimmer’s itch. Harbor Commission –Geoff
Mr. Steadman said that the Harbor Master was going to be replacing the mooring conditions. He
also provided a brief update on the Plan of Conservation and Development and the proposed
zoning changes. There will be many coastal management issues.
Mr. Schnierlein said that he had seen the work crews setting up to remove phragmites between
Oyster Shell Park and the Maritime Aquarium. He added that the water temperature by the
Aquarium was in the 70’s and the oxygen levels were very low. Fortunately, there have been no
large schools going up the river.
Planning and Zoning – Dick Harris
Mr. Harris said that the local water treatments were trying to get to 10 parts per trillion. He said
that it would only be a matter of time before an advisory would be issued for the Norwalk River.
Mr. Harr
DPW – treatment plant tour – cancelled.
Mr. Schnierlein said that Ralph cancelled the tour because only three people signed up.
OLD BUSINESS Directory of who to call – Diane
Ms. Lauricella said that she had sent out a draft directory and she was contacting any department
that might have any involvement with water quality. She said that she hoped to have the final
document finished by the end of the year and spoke about possibly having a page on the City
website.
Ms. Lauricella said that she had been thinking about how to have anonymous complaints. She
will be speaking with the new Communications Director who oversees the Customer Service
Department about this. There is a page for the water utility companies on the Health Department
website.
NEW BUSINESS
a) PFAS future testing comparison with expensive test vs. less expensive test – Dick
Mr. Harris said that they did not have enough information on the test results to make a clear
decision on which test to use at this time.
Mr. Harris said that there had been a meeting with Save the Sound about the DEEP consent order
and the #2 discharge.
b) Potential zoning changes -still intent on multiple family housing on Water St.
Mr. Steadman said that there had been quite a bit of interest on this and there would be
requirements in the POCD. He said that there had been an earlier zoning change proposal that
was rejected by the Harbor Commission. The top area of Water Street would be a mixed use,
urban density redevelopment district because it is near the train station. He reminded everyone
that the upper portion of Water Street is often subjected to flooding. The Planning Department
feels that the properties are of significant value to the City. The goal is to increase the density at
the upper harbor but this area is in the 100 flood year zone.
Right now, the Harbor Commission is reviewing the POCD changes. There were also concerns
about the future development of Manresa Island.
Mr. Schnierlein said that when he had been teaching, he took a class to a Planning Committee
meeting where the development around the Harbor was being reviewed. He said that people were
amazed back then to see the development so close to the water with no consideration for
flooding.
Ms. Lauricella said that it was still not too late to submit comments to the Planning Department.
Ms. Lauricella mentioned a meeting that had taken place the night before and noted that there
were errors in the contaminated properties study. She said that she would like to speak to Mr.
Steadman about the issues she identified. Ms. Lauricella then gave an example some of the
brownfield sites. Discussion followed about the potential of the Harbor Commission holding a
public meeting.
c) Update on progress made on CT DEEP Sewer Violations: Invite WPCA Staff or DPW
Council Chair Barbara Smyth - Diane’s request
Ms. Lauricella said that she had located an article about the April 2022 consent order, which is
enforceable. She said that she was sure that Mr. Cole and the City were aware of this and
working on it. There is an Ann Street siphon and some issues with the microscreens at the
treatment plan. She said that she wished to know if any progress had been made and if funding
had been set aside.
Mr. Harris said that plans had been submitted to the DEEP and the City was waiting to hear
back. Ms. Lauricella said that she had hoped that one of the other City officials would be present
to speak about this. She said that they should find a way to have an update on this. Recently, she
noticed a number of “flushable” wipes, which often cause problems. Mr. Schnierlein said that the
Committee had been invited to attend the WPCA meetings.
d) Climate change, heat, and WQ: Brief general discussion about current and near-future effects
– Diane’s Request
Ms. Lauricella said that this discussion could be held next month since the Committee has such a
wealth of knowledge and should be educating the public. She suggested they think about it for
the future.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There was no one from the public who wished to address the Committee at this time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• July 6, 2023
The following corrections were noted:
Page 1, under Communications, Department of Health, line 2: please change the following from:
“Mr. Schnierlein discussed, Mr. Harris did a sample a few weeks ago
due to red water. Milford waters contained red algae and a note was sent to Diana.”
To: “Mr. Schnierlein said Mr. Harris had picked up a sample and delivered that sample
containing the red algae to Milford. Mr. Schnierlein said that he had sent a note to Diana because
the test results indicated there was Provost stromium minimum, which is a hazardous algae
bloom. Mr. Schnierlein’s concern was that he had encountered two dog walkers at Taylor Farm.
The dog walkers told him their dogs had been swimming and became violently ill within 24
hours. When this was communicated to the head of the DPW, the DPW director informed Mr.
Schnierlein that it was a tidal pond. Mr. Schnierlein felt they should have posted a notice that the
water was potentially hazardous. Mr. Schnierlein said that he had not followed up with any other
dog walkers and no warning was posted. There was a dog show scheduled for that week-end. Mr.
Schnierlein did not want any other members of the AKC becoming upset.”
Page 2, under Old Business, first bullet point, line 2: please change the following from: “did not
approve the new turf by only 4 votes”
To: “did not approve the new turf by only 49 votes”
** MS. LAURICELLA MOVED THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 6, 2023 MEETING AS
CORRECTED.
** MR. HARRIS SECONDED.
** THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 6, 2023 MEETING AS
CORRECTED PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
Next meeting is Sept. 7, 2023.
ADJOURNMENT.
** MR. HARRIS MOVED TO ADJOURN.
** MS. LAURICELLA SECONDED.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
The meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted.
S. L. Soltes
Telesco Secretarial Services