Planning Commission
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · February 16, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF NORWALK
PLANNING COMMISSION
February 16, 2021
PRESENT: Fran DiMeglio, Chair; Tamara Shockley; Mary Peniston; Tammy Langalis; Steve
Ferguson; Mike Mushak; John Lesko; Brian Baxendale (arrived at 5:57 p.m.)
STAFF: Steve Kleppin; Bryan Baker
OTHERS: Henry Dachowitz
I. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. DiMeglio called the meeting to order at 5:36 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Mr. Kleppin called the roll. It should be noted that this meeting was held on Zoom.com with all
participants calling in, separately.
III. DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON CAPITAL BUDGET
A. Discussion with Norwalk CFO Henry Dachowitz
Mr. Dachowitz began his presentation of his Capital Budget recommendations by noting that the
commissioners had received his written memo about them. He said that there was money in the rainy day
fund but there were expenses such as pensions and pay increases which were putting pressure on the
city’s finances. He noted that the debt service increases have an effect on the Operating Budget which, in
turn, has an effect on the taxes that Norwalk’s residents pay. He explained that the city could borrow tax
free money for a long period. He also explained how the city borrowed funds from the government. He
then discussed the Capital Budget process. He said that some projects have been approved but have
not been bonded. He noted that the city is at 9% of debt service. Bond agencies do not like to see a city
at more than 10%. This would cause the city to lose their AAA bond rating. He explained that some
projects could be cancelled. He then explained how they could keep their debt level steady as well as
how they could increase their purchasing capacity. He noted that he had asked City departments to push
out some of their projects. He did not want to approve projects if they would not be started in the current
year. Some projects were only partially funded.
Ms. DiMeglio asked about projects that had been marked as new by city departments but the
Planning Commission had seen before. Mr. Dachowitz explained the difference between new and what
had been requested in the past.
There was a discussion about the Open Space Fund. It was noted that this was requested by
Recreation and Parks but the funds were spent by the Conservation Commission. Mr. Dachowitz noted
since it was a commission, it did not have its own department. He said he would follow-up with the
commissioners about this.
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There was a discussion about the city’s bond rating and which cities in Connecticut Norwalk had
been reviewed. The bond rating agencies look at the rainy day fund to see if it is decreasing. Mr.
Dachowitz said the city would not give up it's AAA bond rating. He said that the rainy day fund had been
critical during the pandemic. If it did increase, then the city could pay off some long term debt. He thought
that the city had been fortunate during COVID, especially since residential home prices increased
because of the influx of purchasers from New York City.
There was a discussion about increasing the Capital Budget by $10 million and whether it would
affect their bond rating. Mr. Dachowitz did not want to decrease the bond rating to AA as a strategy for
the city’s financial well-being. There was a discussion about the final Capital Budget number. Mr.
Dachowitz noted that the scope of a project could be trimmed down. He also said that projects could be
deferred. There was a discussion about the funding for the Norwalk High School project.
There was a discussion about whether there was a list of projects that had been approved in the
last few years that could be deferred. Some had been started but not yet closed out or completed.
There was a discussion about the amount of money that has been funded in the past,
approximately $20 million worth of projects. There was also a discussion about what projects could be cut
but Mr. Dachowitz noted that he had asked departments to defer projects. He explained how his
department had made recommendations on projects that had been started but funding had not been
spent.
There was a discussion about the COVID relief funding from the federal government that the
Board of Education would receive. It was discussed about whether some of that funding would be used
for ventilation in the public schools. Mr. Dachowitz noted that the Board of Education had received some
indication of what funding they would receive from the federal and state levels. He also noted that the
Board of Education could only use that funding for certain items but they could not plan the Capital
Budget on the assumption that it would be received.
There was a discussion about what the bottom line Capital Budget funding would be so that the
Planning Commission would not go over it. Mr. Dachowitz explained how they could defer, cancel or
change the scope of some projects which could help the city’s finances.
There was a discussion about Capital Budget funding that was still sitting in accounts, having not
been spent. Mr. Dachowitz noted that not everything could be funded and that his department had to say
no to some projects. There was also a discussion about offering an incentive for vendors that come in on
time on projects. There was also a discussion about corporate sponsorships.
There was a discussion about the city being an Alliance district which meant that the Board of
Education was not allowed to receive less funding, on the operating side, than the previous year. Mr.
Dachowitz did not think it was the same for the Capital Budget.
There was a discussion about whether the city would be held to similar standards for next year’s
Capital Budget cycle. He explained that he would have to be tight on the Capital Budget because it would
be difficult on taxpayers. There was then a discussion about the tax assessments received from rental
buildings. There was also a discussion about the interest rates the city pays which Mr. Dachowitz
explained was a blended rate. Most of the fundings were below 2% interest rates. There was also a
discussion about the Operating Budget.
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At this point, Mr. Dachowitz left the Zoom call. Ms. DiMeglo said there would be a break at 6:54
p.m. The commissioners returned at 7:03 pm.
B. Discussion and action on Capital Budget 2021-22 to 2025-26
There was a discussion about the spreadsheet and what is available for Capital Budget funding.
Ms. DiMeglio noted that they would look it over line by line. There was a discussion about whether they
should be adding funding to the Finance Department’s recommendations. Ms. DiMeglio noted that the
meeting would end at 9 pm. Mr. Kleppin reminded her that the meeting agenda would have to be posted
so they decided to hold another meeting on Thursday, if the work on the Capital Budget requests was not
completed at this meeting.
The commissioners began by reviewing the Finance Department’s recommendations. They would
have a discussion when they did not agree with the Department’s recommendations. They funded the
Police Department requests as well as the Fire Department. There was a discussion about the roof on the
Meadow Street Fire Station. They then agreed to all of the Fire Department requests.
The next department, Public Works, had been almost fully funded per the Finance Department’s
recommendations. It was suggested to cut back on some items that were funded annually and take those
funds to be used in other one time projects. It was suggested to cut the Pavement Management project
by $1 million and put it into the Watercourse Maintenance and Stormwater Maintenance projects. There
was also a discussion about taking the $1 million and giving it to another department. They decided to
come back to these 2 Capital Budget requests.
The next department they reviewed was the Operations Department which they decided to fund
according to the Finance Department’s recommendations.
The next department they reviewed was the Recreation and Parks Department. There was a
discussion about the Broad River Complex. There was also a discussion about turf fields and whether
these should be deferred especially due to health concerns about using turf. There was a discussion
about some projects that had funding requests removed. There was a discussion about the Veteran’s
Memorial Park Capital Budget request which had been increased by the Finance Department. The
commissioners wondered why it had increased. Mr. Kleppin was asked to contact Mr. Dachowitz to clarify
this discrepancy. The commissioners agreed with all of the other Capital Budget requests as they were
recommended by the Finance Department.
There was a discussion about funding for the Open Space item. Mr. Kleppin explained the
rationale for funding this item. The commissioners discussed whether to fund it this year because of Mr.
Dachowitz’s reminder that they should be conservative. Some commissioners decided to leave it as
recommended by the Finance Department. It was noted that the Planning Commission was not against
open space.
The next item was for Buildings. There was a discussion about the Nathaniel Ely building not
being as well maintained as other school buildings. This building, however, is not under the purview of the
Board of Education, since it is used for pre-school children. They decided to recommend fully funding this
building although the funding request had been removed. There was then a discussion about the Police
Facilities Capital Budget request.
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The next item was for the Water Pollution Control Authority Capital Budget request which the
commissioners decided not to change.
The next item was for the Economic and Community Development Capital Budget request which
the commissioners decided not to change.
The next item was for the Transportation, Mobility and Parking Capital Budget requests. There
was a discussion about the transportation master plan and traffic signal equipment. They also discussed
the traffic light at Scribner and whether this request should be funded. There was a discussion about the
Rowayton Avenue sidewalk which the commissioners decided to partially fund. They decided to fully fund
the Norwalk River Valley Trail which the Finance Department had declined to fund. They also funded the
Transportation Master Plan which the Finance Department had also declined to fund. There was a
discussion about traffic signal equipment and whether it was an item that should wait until the city hired
it's new Transportation Director. There was then a discussion about the West/Belden/Mott intersection.
The commissioners decided to fund the traffic signal equipment by a vote as follows:
Ms. DiMeglio, Mr. Lesko, Mr. Ferguson, Ms. Shockley and Mr. Baxendale voted yes to funding
the traffic signal. Mr. Mushak, Ms. Peniston and Ms. Langalis voted no for funding the traffic signal
equipment.
There was a discussion about the funding for the West/Belden/Mott intersection. There was a
discussion about not funding this and deferring this item to the following year. The commissioners
decided to vote on this matter as follows: Ms. DiMeglio, Mr. Baxendale, Mr. Lesko, Mr. Mushak and Mr.
Ferguson voted yes. Ms. Peniston and Ms. Shockley voted no. Ms. Langalis abstained.
The next item was for Planning and Zoning. The commissioners decided to fund this
department’s requests as recommended by the Finance Department.
The next item was for Business Development and Tourism. There was a discussion about the
Entrepreneurship Microgrant Program and whether to fund it. Ms. DiMeglio noted that there were other
similar programs in the state. Mr. Ferguson explained that there was a similar program with the Chamber
of Commerce which the city could offer its support to the Chamber. There was then a discussion about
the permitting process for businesses in Norwalk. Ms. Langalis said she had read an article about how
difficult it was. The commissioners discussed how much to fund this item. There was a discussion about
how the city would be hiring a consultant to handle this program.
There was a vote about not funding the Entrepreneurship Microgrant Program which failed as
follows: Ms. DiMeglio and Ms. Langalis voted yes. Mr. Mushak, Ms. Shockley, Mr. Baxendale, Mr.
Ferguson, Mr. Lesko and Ms. Peniston voted no. Since the vote failed, the commissioners compromised
and decided to fund it for $75,000.
The next item was for the Historical Commission which the commissioners decided to fund as
recommended by the Finance Department. It was noted that the Historical Commission spent their funds
wisely.
The next item was for the Arts Commission and Code Enforcement and Parking Authority which
the commissioners decided to fund as recommended by the Finance Department.
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The Capital Budget request from the Human Relations and Fair Rent department had been
deleted by the Finance Department but the commissioners restored funding.
The Capital Budget request from the Library department had been deleted by the Finance
Department but the commissioners restored funding. One of the projects was for digitization of the
newspapers. Most commissioners wanted to fund it so that it could be finished. They did not fund the
auditorium refresh.
The next item was for the Board of Education. There was a discussion about whether the Board
of Education could be spending the COVID funding that they would receive from the federal government.
There was a discussion about funding the curriculum and technology Capital Budget requests which the
Finance Department had not recommended. The commissioners decided to fund half of what the Board
of Education had requested.
There was a lengthy discussion about funding the renovation of bathrooms in the public schools.
Ms. DiMeglio thought that this type of renovation could be done quicker by hiring local plumbers. It was
suggested to reduce the funding to $1 million and that the projects should be completed at two schools
within a year.
There was a discussion about the Silvermine driveway project which the Finance Department had
removed funding. The design had not been completed. Some commissioners thought that the funding
should be restored to this project. There was a discussion about why the design had not been completed,
but some thought it was because of loss of staffing and COVID. There was a discussion about not
funding the entire amount but rather, they decided to recommend funding it for $1 million.
The next item was for the Redevelopment Agency which the commissioners decided to fund as
recommended by the Finance Department. There was a discussion about affordable housing since many
2 income families could not afford to live and work in Norwalk.
The next item was for the Information Technology which the commissioners decided to fund as
recommended by the Finance Department. There was a discussion about having more automated
payments on the city’s website.
The commissioners then looked at the grand total for all of the Capital Budget requests which the
Planning Commission would recommend. However, there were still a few items that had to be reviewed.
Ms. DiMeglio also asked whether they could revisit this on Thursday, February 18. The commissioners
decided to complete the review at this meeting.
There was a discussion about the items that would still have to be reviewed. The commissioners
decided to add $500,000 more to the Storm Water Management Plan and fund the Watercourse
Maintenance as recommended by the Finance Department.
There was some discussion about items from the Recreation and Parks Department that needed
input from the Finance Department. Ms. DiMeglio asked Mr. Kleppin to inform them of those answers the
following day. Mr. Baker noted that for Veterans Memorial Park there had been a mistake on the request.
For the athletic fields, it was asked that Mr. Dachowitz inform them why the Finance Department had
recommended funding when the department had not requested it. At this point, the item was zeroed out.
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The commissioners then reviewed the grand total for all of the Capital Budget requests which the
Planning Commission would recommend
The commissioners would receive a copy of the spreadsheet the following day once the Finance
Department had responded to their request. Ms. DiMeglio noted that the letter to the Mayor was due to
him on March 5, 2021.
*Whereas the Planning Commission held meetings on January 19, 2021; January 26, 2021; and January
27, 2021 to review the capital budget requests
*Whereas the Planning Commission held a Capital Budget public hearing on February 3, 2021
** MS. DIMEGLIO MOVED: THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the Norwalk Planning Commission that
the Capital Budget be APPROVED, as modified, with an amount of $31,441,822 for fiscal year 2021-
2022; and:
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that notice of this action be forwarded to Mayor Rilling; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that notice of this action be forwarded to the Common Council.
Mr. Baxendale seconded.
Fran DiMeglio; Tamara Shockley; Mary Peniston; Tammy Langalis; Steve Ferguson; Mike
Mushak; John Lesko; Brian Baxendale approved.
No one opposed.
No one abstained.
IV. COMMENTS OF DIRECTOR
There were no comments from Mr. Kleppin.
V. COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
There were no comments from the commissioners.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Ms. Peniston made a Motion to Adjourn.
Mr. Baxendale seconded.
Fran DiMeglio; Tamara Shockley; Mary Peniston; Tammy Langalis; Steve Ferguson; Mike
Mushak; John Lesko; Brian Baxendale approved.
No one opposed.
No one abstained.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Diana Palmentiero
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Agenda
PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2021 – 5:30pm
VIRTUAL MEETING TO BE HELD ONLINE
THE CHAIR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION/VIEWING INSTRUCTIONS BELOW
Agenda
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON CAPITAL BUDGET
A. Discussion with Norwalk CFO Henry Dachowitz
B. Discussion and action on Capital Budget 2021-22 to 2025-26
IV. COMMENTS OF DIRECTOR
V. COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
VI. ADJOURNMENT
FUTURE MEETINGS
Planning Commission – March 10, 2021 – Regular Meeting – 6:00pm
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website within seven (7) days after this meeting.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2021 – 5:30pm
VIRTUAL MEETING TO BE HELD ONLINE
THE CHAIR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION/VIEWING INSTRUCTIONS BELOW
Agenda
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON CAPITAL BUDGET
A. Discussion with Norwalk CFO Henry Dachowitz
B. Discussion and action on Capital Budget 2021-22 to 2025-26
IV. COMMENTS OF DIRECTOR
V. COMMENTS OF COMMISSIONERS
VI. ADJOURNMENT
FUTURE MEETINGS
Planning Commission – March 10, 2021 – Regular Meeting – 6:00pm
1
Special Legal Requirements for this Meeting
To allow public access, anyone may access the meeting by either telephone, Zoom and/or the
City of Norwalk YouTube Channel. Additional instructions for public access have been attached
to the backup materials for this meeting (refer to attachment: “Participating and Attending Public
Meetings Virtually”). Please also see the information below concerning viewing/participation
for this meeting.
Telephone Access (Listening and Speaking Only)
- Dial: 646-558-8656
- Enter Webinar ID: 849 0419 5417
To watch the webinar: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84904195417
Participating and Attending Public Meetings Virtually:
- https://www.norwalkct.org/DocumentCenter/View/15695/7---
PublicGuidance_ZoomMeetings---462020docx
For those that just wish to view the meeting but not participate, the live stream can be seen on the
City of Norwalk YouTube Channel. PLEASE NOTE THAT DUE TO SCHEDULING
CONFLICTS IT IS NOT GUARANTEED THAT A LIVE YOUTUBE STREAM WILL
BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE USE THE ZOOM LINK ABOVE TO
WATCH THE MEETING IF NO YOUTUBE STREAM IS AVAILABLE:
- https://www.norwalkct.org/youtube
This meeting will also be recorded and a copy of the audio recording will be posted on the city
website within seven (7) days after this meeting.
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