Public Power Authority Committee
Regular MeetingNorwalk, CT · October 30, 2008
Minutes
Power Authority Committee 10/30/08 Minutes (Final)
CITY OF NORWALK
POWER AUTHORITY COMMITTEE
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 30, 2008
ATTENDANCE: Kelly Straniti, Chair; Michael Geake, Douglas Sutton, Andrew
Conroy (7:21 p.m.)
STAFF: Thomas Hamilton, Finance Director; Ossie Lewis, Finance
OTHERS: Laurel Lindstrom, Common Council Member, William Sawicki,
UHY, LLP; Douglas Marsh, Organizational Dynamics, LLC
CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Straniti called the meeting to order at 7:17 p.m. There was not a quorum present.
UPDATE ON STATUS OF PUBLIC POWER AUTHORITY
PRELIMINARY FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. Sawicki then distributed copies of a report titled “Preliminary Feasibility Study: New
Municipal Power Authority Status Report, October 30, 2008”. He then reviewed the first
few pages of the Preliminary Study. Mr. Hamilton asked about the figures between the
actual distribution and the generation.
Mr. Conroy joined the meeting at 7:21 p.m. A quorum was now present.
Mr. Hamilton asked which six towns were part of the work area cited on pg. 6. They are
Norwalk, Westport, Darien, Noroton, Noroton Heights and Wilton.
In speaking about the frequency of interruptions, Mr. Sawicki said that there did not
appear to be many serious interruptions. Mr. Hamilton pointed out that the Second and
Third District did not have to file statistics regarding this with the State.
Mr. Marsh pointed out that there has not been a strong trend of transfers from investor
owned power companies to municipally owned power companies over the last few years.
Mr. Marsh then gave a brief overview of CMEEC. He added that Cheshire had explored
purchasing CL&P following an increasing number of interruptions to service. After a
few attempts to form a power authority, the town and CL&P reached an agreement and
the service improved.
One issue is a change in the DPUC rules, which allow CL&P more latitude in purchasing.
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Mr. Marsh then reviewed the energy demand growth for the City. Since Norwalk is
already a smart purchaser regarding energy, having a Power Authority would not result in
significant savings, since the differential between South Norwalk Electric Works
(SNEW) and CL&P is only one penny, a CL&P customer using 1,000 kwhr a month,
would pay $12.00 more than the SNEW customer in their energy costs. Mr. Geake asked
if the fact that the Second and Third Taxing District’s non-profit status had been factored
in. Mr. Marsh said that was an important factor and that he would research that aspect
more thoroughly.
Mr. Conroy said that in the past few months, his electrical costs have been around .23¢ or
.24¢ per kilowatt hour. Mr. Marsh said that he believed that might be because of the fuel
delivery costs, which were not factored into the kilowatt hour numbers for SNEW and
CL&P. Mr. Marsh said that the information had been directly given to them by the
companies.
Mr. Marsh then reminded everyone that if the City pursued acquisition, the City would
need a buying service, hire buyers, or consultants, which would be an added cost. Mr.
Geake asked about the two tiers of membership in CMEEC, one being a full membership
and the other being an associate.
Mr. Sawicki then reviewed a theoretical scenario as outlined on page 14 of the report
with the members of the Committee. Ms. Straniti asked if the per monthly charges on
page 14 would be in addition to the cost of the energy. Mr. Sawicki said that the City
would have to recover that money in some manner.
Mr. Hamilton pointed out that CL&P was not interested in selling their assets, which
means that the City would have to take it. The value of the assets would be determined
by the court after years of litigation. Mr. Marsh pointed out that if Norwalk creates a new
authority, it would only be allowed to bond for seven years, while if it became a City
department, there would be a 30 year bonding period. CL&P is not interested in leasing
equipment because CL&P is planning on investing 30 million in capital improvements in
Norwalk over the next five-year. The City would have to assume that maintenance and
upgrading costs if the City took the system over.
In doing the research, a company was located in Massachusetts that does customer
service because Massachusetts has many municipal power authorities. However, a
system like this would require a third party operator, which has not been easy to locate.
Work is still being done regarding the steps that would be needed in order to acquire
assets from CL&P for a voluntary sale and for an involuntary acquisition. Mr. Marsh
then reviewed the concerns and issues with Manresa Island Power Plant as a primary
power generator. Manresa is an oil-fired plant and only operates a few days a month.
There are also DEP concerns regarding the plant.
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Mr. Marsh then reviewed four possible alternatives, aggregator, direct supplier, Energy
Improvement Districts and Retail Co-operative. The last two have limited applications.
Mr. Marsh said that the spreadsheets would be developed for the Committee in the next
few weeks, along with exploring the four alternatives further.
Mr. Conroy asked if there was a boutique generation was an option. Mr. Marsh said that
the group had not explored this. Mr. Hamilton commented that the Norwalk High School
had a co-gen unit, as does the hospital. He added that co-gen units generate energy, but
can not pick up the full load because they are not as efficient as a regular power plant.
Ms. Straniti asked if there were any grants available for this. Mr. Marsh said that he had
not discovered any.
Mr. Conroy said that he was not looking to get rid of CL&P, but to reduce the rate for the
residents for the City.
Mr. Marsh said that he would expect to have a draft of the report, but said that the early
indications were that a new power authority would not be feasible.
Ms. Straniti asked about the risks to the City. Mr. Hamilton said that he felt that the risks
would be enormous.
Mr. Hamilton then asked if the group would include more information on what is left
regarding the Margin of Opportunity.
APPROVE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF AUGUST 6, 2008
** MR. GEAKE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 6,
2008 MEETING AS SUBMITTED.
**MR. CONROY SECONDED.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADJOURNMENT
** MR. CONROY MOVED TO ADJOURN.
** MR. GEAKE SECONDED.
** THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
The meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Soltes
Telesco Secretarial Services
City of Norwalk
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