President and Board of Trustees
Regular MeetingOak Park, IL · May 28, 2024
Minutes
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Village of Oak Park Oak Park, Illinois 60302
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Meeting Minutes
President and Board of Trustees
Tuesday, May 28, 2024 5:00 PM Village Hall
I. Call to Order
Village President Vicki Scaman called the Special Meeting to order at
5:09 P.M.
II. Roll Call
Trustee Straw joined the Meeting at 5:23 P.M.
Present: 7- Village President Scaman, Village Trustee Buchanan, Village Trustee Enyia, Village
Trustee Parakkat, Village Trustee Robinson, Village Trustee Straw, and Village
Trustee Wesley
Absent: 0
III. Agenda Approval
It was moved by Trustee Robinson, seconded by Trustee Wesley, to approve the
Agenda. A voice vote was taken and the motion was approved.
V. Non-Agenda Public Comment
There was no public comment.
VII. Village Manager Reports
Village Manager Kevin Jackson introduced this evening's retreat session
to discuss financial and strategic planning and the police station
improvement project.
VIII. Village Board Committees & Trustee Liaison Commission Reports
There were no comments.
XI. Regular Agenda
A. ID 24-294 Vendor Presentations for the Strategic Financial Management Planning
Program
Interim CFO Donna Gayden introduced the Item and Baker Tilly Director
Steve Toler presented the Item.
Trustee Robinson inquired about the basis for the model. Director Toler
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said it is not proprietary. They will use information from the general ledger
and discussions with staff about key drivers to develop a model the Village
would own and update. She asked what flexibilities are embedded over the
long term. Director Toler said they would work with the Village to identify
key drivers and assumptions. They include a recessionary impact and it will
be a long-range forecast.
Trustee Robinson asked if a refresh assessment will be done on the
long-term Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) budget. Director Toler said they
want to assess the current CIP budget and then help inform if there is an
under-funded or un-funded project that needs additional resources.
Trustee Parakkat asked if the planning horizon is 20-30 years. Director
Toler said they will focus on the 5-10 year horizon. Trustee Parakkat
inquired how the prioritization and identification of financial needs happen
for the outer years. Director Toler said they want to understand what
infrastructure is out there so long-term decisions can be made today.
Trustee Parakkat asked if they have a sensitivity analysis with certain risk
events like a pandemic. Director Toler said they factor in physical and
fiscal events that could play a role, and use that information to help inform
the potential range of costs.
Trustee Parakkat asked if the prioritization of large initiatives would come
back to the Board during the planning process. Manager Jackson
confirmed it will be part of the financial planning process. There is the
public facilities projects, lead line replacement, and general capital needs
including water and sewer. CFO Gayden added that the long-range plan is
updated annually.
Trustee Parakkat asked if there are inputs we are thinking of from other
taxing bodies that will inform what the overall picture might be. Manager
Jackson said we hope to do some level of engagement with the other
jurisdictions to try to support the Board's interest and collaborating around
the goal of affordability.
Trustee Straw inquired how the firm plans for the unknown. Director Toler
said circumstances, infrastructure, and technology will change and they
have to use the best information we have today for predicting as well as we
can into the future. Trustee Straw asked how population modeling will work
into that. Director Toler said Oak Park does not have a significant amount
of urban growth boundary to expand into so it would be population
densification. He said the firm wants to understand the economic
development initiatives and plans on the horizon for development and
redevelopment to best inform the model of those impacts.
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Trustee Straw inquired how customizable the model is after the fact as the
Village Board composition changes every two years. Director Toler said
the numbers are always changing so they build into a dynamic fiscal model
that they create in Excel that is changeable and will be usable in the future
as people and priorities shift. Trustee Straw asked if we are doing the
optional labor costing model. Manager Jackson confirmed we will do that.
Trustee Straw asked how labor costing is modeled over a 20-year time
horizon. Director Toler said you work with the best information you have
today, take it by position, and understand each pay plan and benefits.
Trustee Buchanan asked what gap this initiative will fill. CFO Gayden said
the Village has a budget for the current year 2024 and a proposed budget
for 2025. We are planning a lot of projects and a strategic financial plan
looks at where we are today, the past, and projects out the future. This
makes the budgeting for the upcoming years easier and allows us to know
where you will possibly be and helps us to make better decisions. Manager
Jackson said we do not have a model that currently does that. This model
will be able to be updated iteratively and be available to future Boards as
an institutional practice. CFO Gayden said it is standard practice for
municipalities of this size and smaller.
Trustee Robinson asked if the firm is providing the same model for union
and non-unionized employees. Director Toler said the labor-costing model
is based on the salary and benefits of each position. She said she sees the
way we arrive at those costs to be very different. Collective bargaining
agreements are the driver for unionized employees. Director Toler offered
to share some samples of different models they have done. He said they
build these models specifically for what suits the best needs of the Village.
President Scaman noted she has been asking for future trends for a
number of years and this will help us do that.
Manager Jackson said the Village will bring a recommendation and
contract back to the Board for consideration in the next few weeks.
B. ID 24-286 A Presentation on the Potential Financial Opportunities and Limitations
Related to the Options for the Police Station Improvement Project
Public Works Director Rob Sproule introduced Chapman and Cutler LLP
law firm and Speer Financial. CFO Gayden clarified that the Village does
not currently do business with Chapman and Cutler. Chapman and Cutler
Partner Larry White introduced Partner Joe Saverino who presented to the
Village Board.
Trustee Robinson asked if the Village turns over title of the building and the
real property acts as collateral in these relationships. Partner Saverino said
the legal title typically will stay with the public sector and the real estate
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interests are not going to be part of the collateral for the transaction. She
asked if there are operating and maintenance obligations built into these
contracts, which Partner Saverino confirmed. She asked if the private
sector entities come together and form a separate legal entity consortium,
which Partner Saverino confirmed they will typically form an LLC which
protects the Village from bankruptcy and liability. She asked if they are
conducting due diligence on the consortium entity or the underlying private
sector entities. Partner Saverino said due diligence would be done during
the RFP and procurement process.
Trustee Parakkat inquired about the additional risk premium. Partner
Saverino said it is difficult to say because there is not a baseline. It
depends on what you are asking the private company to do. Trustee
Parakkat asked if the Village has done something like this in the past.
Manager Jackson said he worked on significant projects in Champaign
and Long Beach. Trustee Parakkat inquired about the recourse if
negotiations fall through. Partner Saverino said there is no guarantee that a
team will make it all the way through.
Trustee Straw said a mixed use development structure is not just a risk
allocation vehicle but it could substantially defray the Village's costs.
Partner Saverino said mixed use properties are more complex and you
could craft incentives for the private companies that are going to develop it.
Trustee Straw inquired about the limitations on the assignability of the
interests of the private entities involved. Partner Saverino said you build
protections into those definitions.
Trustee Straw asked where municipalities get this wrong. Partner Saverino
said it is having unreasonable expectations in terms of the risk sharing
early on so you want to rely heavily on your feasibility analysts and financial
advisors that know the space and market.
Speer Financial Senior Vice President Raphaliata McKenzie presented to
the Village Board.
Trustee Buchanan asked why this would work, what these private entities
would get out of this, and how this is different than taking out a large bank
loan. Partner Saverino said when dealing with complex projects, you can
engage separate design firms and architectural engineers. Manager
Jackson noted the current Village Hall does not have a contract for
operations and maintenance. We want to explore the opportunity and have
a lease impact on the Village and extend the lifecycle of the building.
Partner Saverino said he can share the slide deck and a sample RFQ.
Trustee Parakkat noted the historic preservation architects assessed that
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the current Village Hall is structurally sound and allows for renovation.
Manager Jackson said there are significant accessibility issues related to
the current structure. The estimated renovation costs are $30M-$40M on
top of financing a new police station. Trustee Parakkat noted that estimate
included relocating Council Chambers. Manager Jackson said this is part
of the due diligence process.
The Village Board took a recess from 7:08 P.M. to 7:37 P.M.
C. ID 24-287 A Facilitated Discussion on Village Board Goals and Priorities for the Police
Station Improvement Project
Director Sproule introduced the Item and Ludwig Speaks LLC Facilitator
Steve Ludwig. Facilitator Ludwig presented the Item and led the Trustees
through group activities and the Trustees reported out on their discussions.
It was moved by Trustee Robinson, seconded by Trustee Enyia, to extend the
meeting past 10:00 P.M. A voice vote was taken and the motion was approved.
President Scaman said she is not hearing any support for Option 1 to build
a new police station onsite.
Trustee Wesley said $150M is a non-starter for him and something better
needs to be done with the numbers for him to vote yes on anything.
Trustee Robinson said she agreed with President Scaman and would not
consider Option 1.
Trustee Parakkat agreed with Trustee Wesley and said the number has to
come down a lot.
Manager Jackson said we won't get to any real costs until we get to the
next phase. Trustee Wesley confirmed he wants to see a lower order of
magnitude cost than what has been presented by the last two architects.
Trustee Parakkat said coupling these two decisions together would delay
it. It would help to have the costs of a new facility and a renovation
staggered. The police facility is the priority.
Trustee Straw agreed that he does not need to see Option 1 come back.
He said he would be interested in an option that isn't necessarily moored to
this site. He suggested building vertically in the Avenue Garage in a way
that is a mixed use development or looking at other spaces in the village
we have an interest in acquiring. He said he is open to a creative Option 4.
President Scaman said if expediency and cost are valued, then the land we
own is both of those things. Trustee Straw said he doesn't want expediency
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to be at the cost of making the best decision. He said bringing private
investment to the project, which would be difficult on this site, isn't
something we should overlook. He said he didn't love any of the options
and maybe a new option is the way to get consensus around what's next.
Trustee Enyia said he is open to Options 2 and 3.
President Scaman recommended having conversations with the Village
Manager on assessments of space in our community, which Manager
Jackson agreed.
XII. Call to Board and Clerk
Trustee Wesley said he thoroughly enjoyed the moderation and facilitation
this evening.
XIII. Adjourn
It was moved by Trustee Wesley, seconded by Trustee Straw, to Adjourn. A voice
vote was taken and the motion was approved. Meeting adjourned Tuesday, May
28, 2024 at 10:22 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Deputy Clerk Hansen
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Meeting Agenda
President and Board of Trustees
Tuesday, May 28, 2024 5:00 PM Village Hall
A Special Meeting will start at 5:00 p.m. in Room 101.
The President and Board of Trustees welcome you. Statements may be made by
citizens at the beginning of the meeting, as well as when agenda items are reviewed. If
you wish to make a statement, please complete the "Instructions to Address the Village
Board" form which is available at the back of the Chambers, and present it to the staff
table at front. When recognized, approach the podium, state your name and address
first, and please limit your remarks to three minutes.
Instructions for Non-Agenda Public Comment
Non-agenda public comment is a time set aside at the beginning of each regular
meeting for citizens to make statements about an issue or concern that is not on that
meeting�s agenda. It is not intended for a dialogue with the board. You may also
communicate with the board at 708.358.5784 or e-mail board@oak-park.us.
Non-agenda public comment will be limited to 30 minutes with a limit of three minutes
per person. If comment requests exceed 30 minutes, public comment will resume after
the items listed under the regular agenda are complete.
Instructions for Agenda Public Comment
Comments are three minutes per person per agenda item with a maximum of three
agenda items to which you can speak. In addition, the Village Board permits a
maximum of three persons to speak to each side of any one topic that is scheduled for
or has been the subject of a public hearing by a designated hearing body. These items
are noted with (*).
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Agenda Approval
IV. Minutes
V. Non-Agenda Public Comment
VI. Proclamation
VII. Village Manager Reports
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VIII. Village Board Committees & Trustee Liaison Commission Reports
This section is intended to be informational. If there are approved minutes from a recent
Committee meeting of the Village Board, the minutes will be posted in this section.
IX. Citizen Commission Vacancies
This is an ongoing list of current vacancies for the Citizens Involvement Commissions.
Residents are encouraged to apply through the Village Clerk’s Office.
X. Citizen Commission Appointments, Reappointments and Chair Appointments
Names are forwarded from the Citizens Involvement Commission to the Village Clerk
and then forwarded to the Village President for recommendation. If any appointments
are ready prior to the meeting, the agenda will be revised to list the names.
XI. Regular Agenda
A. ID 24-294 Vendor Presentations for the Strategic Financial Management Planning
Program
B. ID 24-286 A Presentation on the Potential Financial Opportunities and Limitations
Related to the Options for the Police Station Improvement Project
Overview: With the support of the Finance Department, financial consultants will present
various financial models and discuss their benefits and constraints as potential
support for the Police Station Improvement Project.
C. ID 24-287 A Facilitated Discussion on Village Board Goals and Priorities for the Police
Station Improvement Project
Overview: The Village Board, Facility Review Committee, and Village staff have identified
strategic goals for the Police Station Improvement Project through the Space
Needs Assessment and Historic Preservation Evaluation process. This
facilitated discussion will assist the Village Board with the affirming and
prioritization of those goals in an effort to ensure that the Village Board’s
future actions align with their values.
XII. Call to Board and Clerk
XIII. Adjourn
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