School Facilities Ad Hoc Committee
Regular MeetingPortland, ME · August 30, 2016
Minutes
School Facilities Ad Hoc Committee
Committee Co-Chairpersons
Marnie Morrione, Chair, Portland Board of Education ∙ Ethan K. Strimling, Mayor
David Brenerman, District 5 City Councilor Nicholas M. Mavodones, At-Large City Councilor
Justin Costa, District 4 City Councilor Sarah J. Thompson, At-Large Board of Education
Stephanie Hatzenbuehler, District 4 Board of Education Anna Trevorrow, At-Large Board of Education
Tuesday, August 30, 2016
5:00pm – 7:00pm
City Hall – Council Chamber
Meeting Minutes & Notes
The meeting began at 5:04pm.
Attendance:
Mayor Strimling, School Board Chair Marnie Morrione (Committee Co-Chairs)
Superintendent Xavier Botana
Councilors: David Brenerman, Justin Costa, Nicholas Mavodones
School Board Members: Stephanie Hatzenbuehler, Sarah Thompson, Anna Trevorrow
Deputy City Manager Anita LaChance
Special Assistant to the Mayor Jason J. Shedlock
Mayor Strimling and Board Chair Morrione began the meeting by welcoming the Committee Members
and the public and letting the attendees know the purpose of the evening. Xavier Botana, along with
representatives from Oak Point Associates, would walk through the Builds for Our Future plan, how it
relates to the school tours that the Committee attended, and how the proposed plans tie into students’
educational needs.
The minutes of the July 25th meeting of the School Facilities Ad Hoc Committee were approved
unanimously.
1. Presumpscot
a. Plan includes improvements and an additional 36,000 ft2 @ $16.2 Million
i. Need a breakdown of exactly what that square footage entails
b. 2nd Floor expansion may be able to be eliminated, but structure would need
to be in place for possible future expansion
i. Cost of 2nd floor is roughly $2.5 million
c. Proposed size of school would make it about same size of Longfellow, still
smaller than Lyseth and Reiche
d. Updating carpets, windows, walls, electrical throughout the school are all
part of the proposed plan
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e. Partitions to combine classrooms and enable shared teaching are not part of
the current plan, but could be added if the staff and administration deem
appropriate
f. During renovation, students would not be displaced, as they can use
modulars as swing space for a limited time
g. Offsite improvements (sidewalks, roads) might be needed. Oak Point will
consult with a Civil Engineer
h. Current traffic routing would more heavily utilize Sherwood Street
i. Options might be to remove on street parking
ii. Traffic study is needed
iii. Fears of bottlenecks expressed
i. Non-equity items are repairs that were not funded in the Capital
Improvement Plan but subsequently added as a part of the Buildings for
Our Future plan.
j. Possibility of a larger shared use gym/cafeteria does not assist in flexibility
of space, since the cafeteria would still make the gym unusable during meal
serving times
k. Enrollment fluctuates widely at Presumpscot and possible Front Street
housing expansion can possibly factor into future enrollment numbers
2. Longfellow
a. Plan includes improvements an additional 17,000 ft2 @ $16.4 Million
b. Relocation of students during renovation would be to adjacent Deering
High School swing space
c. There is currently asbestos in ceiling and floor tiles – floors and ceilings
would be replaced under the proposed plan
d. Proposal includes separate heat for Longfellow (currently tied to Deering
High School)
e. Sprinklers throughout building will be brought up to current code
f. Expansion would eliminate a portion of staff parking and displace student
parking for Deering
i. Will likely cause concern in the community
ii. Considerable pushback in the past because of spillover into the
neighborhood
iii. Data needed from prior community forums to gauge public
response (dates and number of people attended)
iv. Suggestion to engage community again on the proposed plan
g. A K-8 plan to merge schools was not discussed by the Board of Education
and is not favored by the current Longfellow principal, not the
Superintendent because of size of school and mixing of various
neighborhood children (too large a catchment area) and mergers does not
guarantee state funding to move forward (same issues related to the
question of merging Lyseth and Lyman Moore)
h. There is no need for sidewalk alterations, grading of existing property will
accommodate ADA-related upgrades
3. Reiche
a. Smaller footprint: Plan includes improvements and additional 6,000 ft2 @
$18 Million
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b. Under proposed “relocation” plan for students, disused modulars from
Presumpscot would be moved to campus of Reiche to use as swing space at
a yet-to-be-determined cost
c. The proposal includes a hybrid plan of walls around spaces where
Kindergarten or small-group focused learning is needed, but an open
concept with possible movable walls is envisioned for other classrooms
d. Acoustic experts will be engaged to address noise issue that accompanies
open concept design – money is currently in the budget for acoustic design
and furnishings
e. Non-equity items at Reiche include a roof (facilities staff state that though
the roof may have an additional few years of life by the time the project is
complete, the construction of skylights to address light issues in the interior
of the building would necessitate replacing the roof)
f. The plan includes an additional Pre-K classroom
i. The school is already listed as over-capacity
g. Explanation for the low square-footage addition and second-highest cost
includes the need for a new roof as well as major utilities upgrades because
of the original design of the building
h. Further exploration of relocating basketball courts and redesigning other
areas of the campus are being discussed
4. Lyseth
a. Plan includes improvements and an increase of 37,000 ft2 @ $20 Million
b. Possible elimination of 2nd floor is les straightforward than Presumpscot
i. Since Lyseth is proposed to be at the end of the construction
process, if enrollment continues to shrink, elimination of the 2nd
floor is a possibility
c. During renovation, students would not be displaced, as they can use
modulars as swing space for a limited time
d. There are many questions around the work proposed by the city and being
planned for currently and what is included in the Buildings for Our Future
proposal. School and City staff are working together on ensuring there is
no duplication of proposed costs and costs already included in the Capital
Improvement Plan
i. Sidewalk, ballfield drainage are being discussed and would need to
be addressed regardless of moving forward with school renovations
ii. Budget can be adjusted based on work done and work still needed
on campus
iii. Possibility of moving up project based on economics of doing the
entire project (school and grounds) at once will be explored, taking
into account the cost of doing a portion sooner and a portion later
(in future escalated costs)
e. Non-equity items at Lyseth are few, as many items that would fall into this
category have already been addressed
f. Except for the addition of a Pre-K class, the proposed renovations do not
anticipate allowing for increased enrollment
i. A majority of renovation are adding a separate gymnasium as well
as a second floor to ensure more appropriate use of space and the
elimination of the modulars currently on site.
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5. General Issues
a. Admin costs in the proposal are for project reserves and contingencies
i. Movable equipment accounts of 6%
ii. Technology (wiring and other hard costs) accounts for 3%
iii. LEED Certification utilized reserve funds
iv. Unforeseen overruns in bids and construction are included in
contingencies
b. What is the status of the elementary school task force?
c. Would adding to Ocean Avenue impact the need for a 2nd floor at Lyseth?
d. More explanation on the downfalls of a combined gym/cafeteria
i. Eating in gyms can take up nearly half the day
ii. P.E. cannot be scheduled during those times
iii. When P.E. is held in classrooms, the teachers are not teaching P.E.
1. Stretching, games, teamwork, not physical education
iv. Stage area of gyms cannot be used either
1. Cannot hold a school-wide presentation with community
because of space limitations
v. Classroom teaching would normally use P.E. period to work on
lesson plans in the classroom – if classroom is used, they must go
somewhere else and cannot adequately prepare their classroom for
study
e. How many schools have three lunches (thus monopolizing gym times)?
i. Longfellow has two with the third (for older children) held in the
classroom
ii. Presumpscot has three lunches
iii. More information needed on Reiche and Lyseth
f. If proposed renovations of the four schools in question was performed,
would they meet the same standards as the new Hall School, Ocean
Avenue, and East End Community School now meet?
i. Yes, they would meet the equity standards set by the Board of
Education
ii. Seven school would then meet equity standards, with Riverton also
at or near the same standard
6. Announcements
a. Questions and answers to be distributed by September 9th
b. Next School Facilities Ad Hoc Committee Meeting will be reserved to
walk through questions and answers
Presentation by Oak Point Associates is included in the official minutes.
The meeting adjourned at 7:16pm.
Submitted by Jason J. Shedlock, Special Assistant to the Mayor
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School Facilities Ad Hoc Committee
Committee Co-Chairpersons
Marnie Morrione, Chair, Portland Board of Education ∙ Ethan K. Strimling, Mayor
David Brenerman, District 5 City Councilor Nicholas M. Mavodones, At-Large City Councilor
Justin Costa, District 4 City Councilor Sarah J. Thompson, At-Large Board of Education
Stephanie Hatzenbuehler, District 4 Board of Education Anna Trevorrow, At-Large Board of Education
Tuesday, August 30, 2016
5:00pm – 7:00pm
City Hall – Council Chamber
Agenda
1. Review and approval of 7/25 Committee meeting minutes
2. Discussion and follow up from school tours
3. Presentation of school facilities needs
a. Xavier Botana, Superintendent
b. Oak Point Associates
4. Set topic areas for upcoming Committee meetings
a. Discussion of questions and answers
b. Financial
c. Educational need
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