Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular MeetingRomeoville, IL · April 25, 2017
Minutes
Village of Romeoville
1050 W Romeo Rd
Meeting Minutes - Final
Tuesday, April 25, 2017
7:00 PM
Village Hall Board Room
Planning and Zoning Commission
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - Final April 25, 2017
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
Present 7- Commissioner David Venn, Commissioner Petra Burgess, Commissioner Rich
Holloway, Associate Member Gary Hoffman, Commissioner Jim McConachie,
Commissioner Paul Scieszka, and Commissioner Dan Repetowski
Absent 3- Commissioner Steve Pyle, Associate Member Rick Gougis, and Associate Member
Dawn Sakalas
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A motion was made by Commissioner Burgess, seconded by Commissioner
Scieszka, that this Agenda be approved. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Scieszka, seconded by Commissioner
Repetowski, that the March 28, 2017 Minutes be Approved. The motion carried by
a unanimous vote.
PZMIN17-01 Planning and Zoning Minutes 3/28/2017
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Attachments: PZC Minutes 3-28-2017
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PH17-2248 A Public Hearing on a Special Use Permit for a Planned Unit
Development - Final Development Plan for B & W Truck Repair at
667 Parkwood Ave
A motion was made by Commissioner Holloway, seconded by Commissioner
Scieszka, that this Public Hearing be Opened. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Senior Planner Nathan Darga read the Project Compliance Report.
Description/Title: B & W Truck Repair at 667 Parkwood
Type of Review: Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan
Summary:
B & W Truck Repair has purchased the vacant lot at 667 Parkwood Avenue.
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This site was formerly the Seebert Landscaping Company which burned down several
years ago. B&W has purchased the property and is proposing to redevelop the site with
a truck repair and inspection facility. The site is approximately 1.5 acres in size. The
applicant is proposing a 11,752 square foot building with an area for truck repair and
inspection and an area for office. The facility will feature a safety lane where trucks can
drive through the building and complete their necessary inspections. There will be four
bays for repair.
During the concept plan review it was noted that there is a dispute with the neighbor to
the north (Wayne Cassells, Keneal Graphics, 679 Parkwood) who has been driving on the
B&W property to access his truck dock on the side of his building. The Planning
Commission and Village Board requested that the applicant try to work out access with
the neighbor. The current proposal shows access to the Keneal property with a gate.
Trucks would enter through the B & W access lane and be able to maneuver through the
gate. The applicant and the neighbor have not come to terms on whether this is
acceptable to both parties. It does, however, fulfill the Village request to provide access.
Additional arguments are a private matter between the two property owners.
Since the concept plan the building has been changed to all precast concrete. There are
no longer any code exceptions being requested for metal building construction. The two
code exceptions that are being requested are reducing the front yard parking setback
from 25’ to 10’ and reducing the building setback on the south side from 20’ to 16.93’.
These reductions are necessary to move the building southwest enough to allow for the
trucks maneuver on site, including the maneuver to allow access to the Keneal property.
The applicant will also be providing the Village a 60’ x 45’ easement area for a future
project to relocate and reconstruct the Parkwood lift station. This is part of the reason for
shifting the building to the south.
Method of Investigation:
The Development Review Committee has reviewed the proposal. The Planning
Commission reviewed the Concept Plan on 9-13-16. The Village Board reviewed the
Concept Plan on 9-21-16.
Recommendation:
The Development Review Committee is recommending Approval contingent on staff
comments.
Chairman Venn asked if the Village is confident that all the gas and oil storage meets
requirements.
Planner Darga stated the all regulations would be followed inside and outside of the
building.
Mr. Chris Lavoie, Consulting Engineer - 1050 W IL Rte. 126, Plainfield, IL - Sworn
Mr. Lavoie stated that there is a triple basin outside at the point of exit of the safety lane
and it would comply with all the regulatory codes.
Mr. Wayne Cassells, 260 Millcreek Lane, Naperville, IL 60540 - Sworn
Mr. Cassells passed out two (2) handouts to the Commissioners. Mr. Cassells is the
owner of lot 2 (679 Parkwood) Kneal Graphic Solutions and has been in the Village just
over 30 years. Mr. Cassells feels he has had a solid working relationship with the Village
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over the years. Mr. Cassells is concerned about the ingress/egress issue for his trucks
with the new development of B & W Trucking Facility. Mr. Cassells referenced a letter he
received from the Village signed by Steve Gulden dated Sept. 7, 2016 stating the
depressed dock on the south side did not appear to have a building permit. Mr. Cassells
stated that his building was designed for the corner lot that he purchased from Mr.
Rediehs in Sept. 1986. Mr. Cassells discussed the handouts and talked about a
proposed road that was never completed. The road project was stopped by the Army
Corps in 1989 due to wetland infringement. The roadway area was filled in by Kneal
Graphics and used for its trucks. Seebert Landscape later purchased the property (lot 3),
and made improvements to the proposed road and allowed Kneal Graphics to use the
area.
Mr. Cassells stated that the subdivision was replotted in March of 1993 and passed out
another handout to the Commissioners. The subdivision new plat, approved by the Village
and the County shows a named street called Braasch Dr. in the easement area.
Mr. Cassells stated that he is willing to work with B&W to find a solution that works
better for Kneal Graphics.
Commissioner Scieszka asked staff to explain the 1993 plat handout.
Planner Darga stated that first handout was a concept plan showing several streets. The
original plat from1986 only recorded the lots on Parkwood and the lines have never
moved. The 1993 plat that shows (handout) Braasch Dr. does not actually cover the lots
in question it covers the lots behind. The lots on Parkwood are just shown as reference.
This plat also shows Greenwood Dr. being dedicated as a public street. There are no
roadways shown for the subject area in any tax maps or anything dedicating it to the
Village. These are the conclusions that were arrived at after researching the property
before sending the letter dated Sept. 7, 2016 to Mr. Cassells.
Mr. Cassells stated that he was sold a corner lot by the developer and designed his
building for a corner lot and has used the area for ingress/egress for 30 years.
Commissioner Holloway asked if there is an easement recorded at Will County
Recorder’s office with respect to this property.
Planner Darga stated that staff has not been able to find any easement that was recorded
or dedicated to the Village or stating that lot 2 (Kneal Graphics) has rights to the area.
The Village does understand that Kneal has been using the area and asked B&W to work
Kneal during the planning for their development and staff believes they have done that.
The Village believes that this is a private matter between the two parties and should be
resolved by them.
Chairman Venn asked if the Village has fulfilled its obligation to PH17-2248.
Planner Darga stated that he believes it has.
Mr. Jim Wagner, Helen & Wagner, 804 N. Washington St., Naperville, IL - Sworn
Mr. Wagner stated that there was some discussion about moving the truck docks to the
north side of the building but it was cost prohibitive. Mr. Cassells retained an engineer to
supply plans for access through the existing 60 ft. roadway easement that it uses. This
plan was rejected by the developer. The plan shown tonight by B & W with the trucks
backing in over 200 ft. with a blind turn is unacceptable to Mr. Cassells.
Commissioner Scieszka asked for clarification on the term “easement” that keeps being
used. Mr. Darga stated that there is no recorded easement. The plat shows an area that
states reserved for future roadway and utilities.
Commissioner Burgess asked what would happen in the future with the current situation.
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Planner Darga stated that the easement needs to be recorded.
Mr. Wagner stated that the important document is the recorded document, Romeoville
Industrial Park Unit One drawing. Mr. Wagner passed out copies to the Commissioners.
Mr. Wagner explained that in September of 1986 when the property was subdivided Mr.
Cassells owned lot 2 (lot 3 is the development property) and the drawing shows a 60 ft.
strip on lot 3 that states reserved for utility and roadway easement. Mr. Wagner feels
according to Illinois law that when this was recorded it created the easement and all
parties have a right to use it whether it is dedicated or not.
Mr. Wagner stated that Mr. Cassells building was designed and approved with the loading
docks on the south side to utilize the easement area so the trucks could make the turn
needed. Mr. Wagner agrees that the easement is on lot 3 but is subject to the rights that
are held by those that have the right to use the easement including the owner of lot 2.
Mr. Wagner stated that this is called an Express Easement. Mr. Wagner stated that the
other important point is something called a Prescriptive Easement. This type of easement
provides adverse protection when someone has been openly and obviously using a piece
of land over the course of 30 years in Illinois. Mr. Wagner states that Mr. Cassells, due to
recorded documents and use over the years has a right to continue to utilize the land and
that the owner of the land to the south cannot do anything to interfere with that.
Mr. Wagner stated that Mr. Cassells does not have a problem with the owner to the south
developing the property as long as it does not infringe on his rights of ingress/egress to
his property. Mr. Wagner stated that the trucks can make the turns needed within the 60
ft. easement. Mr. Wagner handed out another drawing that Mr. Cassells engineers came
up with today (4/25/17) showing an alternative plan for the trucks to use while staying on
the 60 ft. easement. Mr. Wagner would like the Commissioners to defer their decision
on this Public Hearing until both parties come to an agreement.
Commissioner Holloway asked Mr. Wagner about the Prescriptive Easement and if it is
an automatic right or would have to be approved by a court of law. Mr. Wagner stated
that it can be declared but would have to be decided by the court if it is challenged.
Steve Rockwell, Director of Community Development asked Mr. Lavoie to assist Planner
Darga in showing the Commission B&W’s drawing showing the proposed access for
Kneal Graphics.
Mr. Lavoie showed the drawing on the overhead screen to the Commission and discussed
the plan they are proposing. Mr. Lavoie stated that his client has looked at many options.
In October he did receive a drawing from Mr. Cassells’ engineer that shows a turning
motion that goes far beyond the reserve area for the easement. Mr. Lavoie stated that his
client disputes that the easement exists. Mr. Lavoie stated that his client has extended
the “Olive Branch” to try and come to a workable solution but the caveat is that it must be
a workable solution for both parties. Mr. Lavoie feels that this proposed drawing does this.
Mr. Lavoie has only received one drawing since last September from Mr. Cassells that
totally disregarded B&W‘s development. Mr. Lavoie has been instructed by his client to
work with Mr. Cassells and wants to be a good neighbor and feels that the plan presented
tonight works for everyone. Mr. Lavoie has researched all the documents and does not
believe that the loading dock for Kneal Graphics was put in with the original building and
can find no record of it. Also the easement does not show up in title to the property and
was only noted as reserved for future use. Mr. Lavoie has been trying to work with Mr.
Cassells but unfortunately only received the second proposal since October at tonight’s
meeting. Mr. Lavoie has been working on the project and feels what was presented
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tonight works and is asking for the approval of the Commission.
Mr. Cassells talked about the plan from his engineers that was presented tonight. He is
concerned about the plan from B & W with the trucks having to back in over 200 ft. Mr.
Cassells is willing to work with B&W to find a solution.
Mr. Lavoie stated that his client is willing to work with Mr. Cassells to find a solution that
works. However, Mr. Lavoie stated that he would like to move forward on the premise that
they are providing a solution that works. B & W is willing to work with Mr. Cassells and
record the easement, but must have a solution that works for both parties. Mr. Lavoie
feels that the only fair solution proposed since last October is the one he presented
tonight. Any solution must be equitable for both parties and cannot leave B & W’s
property undevelopable because of turning motion. Mr. Lavoie is asking this Commission
to move this plan forward and B & W will continue to work with Mr. Cassells to find a
solution.
Chairman Venn stated that this Commission is not litigators or judges or should they be
but, it seems that there is a large portion of this case that still needs to be investigated
by the Village. Chairman Venn is suggesting that when the Commission makes its
motion they consider tabling this for a month to give both parties time to reach a solution.
Steve Rockwell Community Development Director commented that if this plan is approved
tonight and presented at the May 3, 2017 Board Meeting that any additional documents
would have to be turned in by Wednesday April 26, 2017.
Mr. Rockwell stated that this matter has been going on for some time and does not feel
that a month’s delay will solve anything. Mr. Rockwell stated that the prescriptive
easement could be a court matter and recommends that this move forward contingent on
staff comments and let the Village Board proceed.
A motion was made by Commissioner Scieszka, seconded by Commissioner
McConachie, that this Public Hearing be Closed. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
PH17-2249 A Public Hearing on an Amendment to the Special Use Permit for a
Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan for the CN
Group at 525 Anderson Drive
A motion was made by Commissioner Burgess, seconded by Commissioner
McConachie, that this Public Hearing be Opened. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Senior Planner Nathan Darga read the Project Compliance Report.
Description/Title: CN Group at 525 Anderson
Type of Review: Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan
Summary:
The CN Group has purchased the vacant property at 525 Anderson Drive. They are
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proposing a spec warehousing / industrial building for the site.
This property was originally approved as Romeoville Commercial Park Lots 13 & 14 (ORD
06-0444). That PUD showed three buildings across the two lots. The southernmost
building was constructed as well as some of the overall site improvements. Due to the
recession, the northern two buildings were never constructed. The area where the
northern two building would have been was subdivided off and purchased from the bank by
a developer. It is now being purchased by the CN Group who is proposing a spec
building on the site.
The building would be approximately 32,291 square feet with 6,000 square feet being
devoted to office. They are proposing 20 truck docks and 34 car parking spaces. The
connection in the rear would be maintained for fire access only. The two existing curb
cuts on Anderson would be utilized in their current location. No new curb cuts are being
proposed.
The following exceptions to Village code are being proposed. Three of the four were
previously approved in ORD 06-0444 and are being repeated here for clarity.
1.Front Yard Parking Setback. Reducing from 25’ to 12.92’.
2.Parking Stalls. Allowing 9’ x 18’ edge to edge parking stalls
(this was originally approved in ORD 06-0444)
3.Parking lot Drive Aisle. Allowing 24’ edge to edge drive aisle
(this was originally approved in ORD 06-0444)
4.Landscaping along rear lot line. Waiving the normal code requirements to comply
with the Forest Preserve District’s prairie plantings (this was originally approved
in ORD 06-0444).
The building would be a precast concrete structure with glass and canopies in the front
by the office area.
Method of Investigation:
The Development Review Committee has reviewed the proposal. The Planning
Commission reviewed the concept plan on 9-13-16. The Village Board reviewed the
concept plan on 9-21-16.
Recommendation:
The Development Review Committee recommends approval contingent on staff
comments.
David Nosek, CN Group, 1521 N 31st Ave., Melrose Park, IL - Sworn
No questions from the Commissoners or the public.
A motion was made by Commissioner McConachie, seconded by Commissioner
Scieszka, that this Public Hearing be Closed. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
6. NEW BUSINESS
ORD17-1364 An Ordinance Approving a Special Use Permit for a Planned Unit
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Development - Final Development Plan for B & W Truck Repair at
667 Parkwood Ave
Attachments: ORD 17-1364 Exhibit A
ORD 17-1364 Exhibit B
ORD 17-1364 Exhibit C PZC Report
A motion was made by Commissioner Scieszka, seconded by Commissioner
Holloway, that this Ordinance be Recommend for Approval With Conditions to
the Village Board on 5/3/2017. The motion passed with Commissioner Burgess
voting no.
ORD17-1365 An Ordinance Approving an Amendment to the Special Use Permit
for a Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan for the CN
Group at 525 Anderson Drive
Attachments: ORD 17-1365 Exhibit A
ORD 17-1365 Exhibit B
ORD 17-1365 Exhibit C - PZC report
A motion was made by Commissioner Scieszka, seconded by Commissioner
Holloway, that this Ordinance be Recommend for Approval With Conditions to
the Village Board on 5/3/2017. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
RES17-2298 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Easement
Venture One at 1200 Schmidt Road
Attachments: RES 17-2298 Exhibit A
A motion was made by Commissioner Holloway, seconded by Commissioner
Scieszka, that this Resolution be Recommend for Approval to the Village Board
on 5/3/2017. The motion carried
RES17-2299 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Subdivision-Blain’s Farm &
Fleet
Attachments: RES 17-2299 Exhibit A
A motion was made by Commissioner Holloway, seconded by Commissioner
Repetowski, that this Resolution be Recommend for Approval to the Village
Board on 5/3/2017. The motion carried
RES17-2300 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Subdivision-Romeoville
Gateway
Attachments: RES 17-2300 Exhibit A
A motion was made by Commissioner Holloway, seconded by Commissioner
Scieszka, that this Resolution be Recommend for Approval to the Village Board
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on 5/3/2017. The motion carried
7. OLD BUSINESS
None
8. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD
None
9. CHAIR'S REPORT
Nothing
10. COMMISSIONER'S REPORT
Nothing
11. VILLAGE BOARD LIAISON REPORT
Nothing
12. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REPORT
Nothing
13. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Scieszka, seconded by Commissioner
McConachie, that this Meeting be Adjourned. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
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Agenda
1050 W Romeo Rd
Village of Romeoville
Meeting Agenda
Planning and Zoning Commission
Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:00 PM Village Hall Board Room
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
PZMIN17-013 Planning and Zoning Minutes 3/28/2017
Attachments: PZC Minutes 3-28-2017
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
PH17-2248 A Public Hearing on a Special Use Permit for a Planned Unit
Development - Final Development Plan for B & W Truck Repair at 667
Parkwood Ave
PH17-2249 A Public Hearing on an Amendment to the Special Use Permit for a
Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan for the CN Group
at 525 Anderson Drive
6. NEW BUSINESS
ORD17-1364 An Ordinance Approving a Special Use Permit for a Planned Unit
Development - Final Development Plan for B & W Truck Repair at 667
Parkwood Ave
Attachments: ORD 17-1364 Exhibit A
ORD 17-1364 Exhibit B
ORD17-1365 An Ordinance Approving an Amendment to the Special Use Permit for a
Planned Unit Development - Final Development Plan for the CN Group
at 525 Anderson Drive
Attachments: ORD 17-1365 Exhibit A
ORD 17-1365 Exhibit B
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RES17-2298 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Easement
Venture One at 1200 Schmidt Road
Attachments: RES 17-2298 Exhibit A
RES17-2299 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Subdivision
Blain’s Farm & Fleet
Attachments: RES 17-2299 Exhibit A
RES17-2300 A Resolution Approving a Final Plat of Subdivision
Romeoville Gateway
Attachments: RES 17-2300 Exhibit A
7. OLD BUSINESS
8. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD
9. CHAIR'S REPORT
10. COMMISSIONER'S REPORT
11. VILLAGE BOARD LIAISON REPORT
12. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REPORT
13. ADJOURNMENT
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