City Council
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · October 28, 2015
Minutes
City Hall and Court House
City of Saint Paul 15 West Kellogg Boulevard
Council Chambers - 3rd
Floor
Minutes - Final Katie Burger, Executive
Assistant, 651-266-8560
City Council
Council President Russ Stark
Councilmember Dan Bostrom
Councilmember Amy Brendmoen
Councilmember Bill Finney
Councilmember Dai Thao
Councilmember Dave Thune
Councilmember Chris Tolbert
Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:30 PM Council Chambers - 3rd Floor
Council Voting
The reader calls the names of all Councilmembers. A vote in favor is cast by remaining
silent, and a vote against is cast by saying no or nay. When the voting is complete, the
reader will state whether the motion passed or failed.
ROLL CALL
Present 6 - Councilmember Dan Bostrom, Councilmember Amy Brendmoen,
Councilmember Dai Thao, Councilmember Chris Tolbert, Councilmember
Bill Finney and City Council President Russ Stark
Absent 1 - Councilmember Dave Thune
CONSENT AGENDA
Note: Items listed under the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion with no
separate discussion. If discussion on an item is desired, the item will be removed from
the Consent Agenda for separate consideration.
Approval of the Consent Agenda
Consent Agenda is adopted as amended
Yea: 6- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Brendmoen, Councilmember
Thao, Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember Finney and City Council
President Stark
Nay: 0
Absent: 1- Councilmember Thune
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1 RES 15-1814 Authorizing the Department of Planning and Economic Development
to submit applications to the Department of Employment and
Economic Development for Contamination Cleanup and Investigation
Grants and to the Metropolitan Council for Tax Base Revitalization
Account Program for the 745 Cleveland Avenue, Fillmore Avenue,
former Sholom Home, and University Avenue Inc (former Lexington
Library) sites.
Adopted
2 RES 15-1820 Authorizing the Fire Department to enter into an agreement with Fire
Solutions Systems for the use of the Saint Paul Fire Department
training facilities.
Adopted
3 RES 15-1821 Authorizing the Fire Department to enter into a joint powers agreement
with Century College to provide Hazardous Materials Technician
training for firefighters October 12 - November 24, 2015.
Adopted
4 RES 15-1826 Authorizing the Department of Parks and Recreation to apply for
$143,475 in funding through the Conservation Partners Legacy grant
program to enhance 60 acres of woodland habitat at Indian Mounds
Regional Park and, if successful, enter into an agreement providing
indemnification for the MN Dept of Natural Resources.
Adopted
5 RES 15-1836 Approving grant funds through the Citywide Neighborhood STAR
Year-Round Program for the Lost and Foundry Metal Shed Project in
the Schmidt Artists Lofts.
Adopted
6 RES 15-1842 Approving the use of grant funds through the Neighborhood Star
Year-Round Program for Historic Saint Paul and Greening the
Avenue.
Adopted
7 RES 15-1848 Approving a Liquor Outdoor Service Area (Patio) license to L & E of St
Paul, Inc. d/b/a Bay Street Grill and Bar (License ID #20100000617)
for the premises located at 731 Randolph Avenue in Saint Paul.
Adopted
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8 RES 15-1849 Approving adverse action against the Cigarette/Tobacco license held
by Langano Grocery & Meat LLC d/b/a Langano Grocery & Meat LLC
located at 421 University Avenue West in Saint Paul.
Adopted
9 RES 15-1851 Approving the Memorandum of Agreement for the 2016 - 2017 Health
Insurance contributions. (Laid over from October 28.)
Laid over to November 4
10 RES 15-1852 Approving the 2015 Rules & Regulations for the Department of Parks
and Recreation.
Adopted
12 RES 15-1857 Approving the Mayor's Reappointment of Ken Peterson to the District
Energy of Saint Paul Board of Directors.
Adopted
FOR DISCUSSION
ROLL CALL
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11 RES 15-1856 Initiating amendments to the Saint Paul Zoning Code pertaining to
parkland dedication fee expenditures by referring them to the Planning
Commission pursuant to Minn. Stat. § 462.357, Subd. 4 for a study,
report, and recommendation regarding their adoption. (Laid over from
October 28.)
Councilmember Thao said he is not clear what Parks and Rec and PED (Planning
and Economic Development) need to change. It was passed on October 3. He
would like to hear from staff as to what they are trying to do. He is not ready for a
vote.
Donna Drummond, Director of PED, appeared and said staff took a closer look at the
area you can spend. They felt the half mile distance restriction did not match the
service areas. Some facilities have bigger service areas.
Thao said he has in front of him an area of low mobility. Some do not have the
means to travel. If they move forward, how do they ensure there is equity in those
communities that need this the most.
Drummond said Parks is not at this meeting. These are generated by development
projects that pay this fee. It is a strict standard to evaluate where the money can be
spent. When they spend money on this fund, it has to come back to the Council.
Thao said we can’t take parkland dedication from the Bus Barn site and use it on the
East Side. Drummond responded that is right. Under state law, there has to be a
connection. They would not be able to spend it way across town. There is a table of
different types of facilities and service areas. Some are bigger than half a mile.
Thao asked for examples of 2016-2017 where parkland dedication would be used.
Drummond responded there has only been one expenditure: Frogtown Farms.
Thao said he would like to hear from Parks. If we change that, we are continuing to
institutionalize inequality especially for the people who need it the most.
Council President Stark read some language. The idea is if it was happening in an
area already served, it creates an opportunity to spend it in an area underserved.
Thao recommended laying it over for a week. He would like to make sure he fully
understands what they are trying to do.
Councilmember Tolbert and Stark asked who it goes back to. Drummond responded
that under state law the Planning Commission has to comment on amendments.
This is a minor amendment. The plan was to have them review it, provide
recommendations, and the Council would have their own public hearing.
Tolbert said this should go to the Parks Commission. A lot of thought went into every
word of that. There may have been 7 public hearings. Parks should get a look at it.
Drummond said the Planning Commission looked at this intensely and worked on it
over a long period of time. They worked with Parks staff and the City Attorney's
Office on this language.
Stark said when they got feedback, they were suggesting we not limit where the
funds could be spent. That would not be consistent with state law. Their
recommendation was greater flexibility.
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Thao said Planning will send it back to us. We can lay this over, figure it out, not
have to go through the public hearing again. A sensible compromise.
Bostrom said there has been enough confusion. A one week layover will not make
much of a difference, is reasonable, and will not change anything.
7 in favor, none opposed
Resolution is laid over to November 4
Laid over to November 4
Yea: 7- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Brendmoen, Councilmember
Thao, Councilmember Thune, Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember
Finney and City Council President Stark
Nay: 0
13 RES 15-1859 Accepting the Robert Street Transitway Alternatives Analysis
Conclusion.
Stark the work that went into developing the two alternatives. The recommendation
is rapid transit and street car. They want to make sure they support transit way in the
future. There should be some sort of transit investment there.
Stark moved approval
7 in favor, none opposed
Res is adopted
Adopted
Yea: 7- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Brendmoen, Councilmember
Thao, Councilmember Thune, Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember
Finney and City Council President Stark
Nay: 0
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14 AHPC 15-3 Public hearing to consider the appeal of the Central Presbyterian
Church to a condition of approval by the Heritage Preservation
Commission regarding one condition to restore and use metal ridge
caps at 500 Cedar Street. (Public hearing held on October 7, 2015.)
Amy Spong said that this was referred back to HPC (Historic Preservation
Commision). It was discussed on October 28. There was new information to the
Council on October 7 and more questions arose. The contractor was able to attend.
It was productive discussion with the HPC. It was long, detailed, and technical. The
HPC has modified their condition and are not requiring the continual metal ridge caps
on areas that currently do not have it. That was the man reason for the appeal. They
were able to verify some things about this product not being able to use with lead and
copper. There was an additional question about the historical copper. The
contractor verified that the membrane material can be installed next to the copper.
The HPC felt it was important to keep the existing copper. Finally, the HPC
recommends the Council adopt the remaining conditions that were part of the original
HPC decision that the appellant was not appealing.
David Colby, Pastor, said they are grateful.
Thune said they heard the appeal on October 7, and laid it over to October 28. The
met on October 22. The contractor was present. They have reached an agreement.
(Thune read the details of his appeal into the record.)
Thune moved to deny the appeal with the conditions that he read.
7 in favor, none opposed
Motion of intent, appeal is denied with modification.
Motion of Intent, appeal is denied with modifications
Yea: 7- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Brendmoen, Councilmember
Thao, Councilmember Thune, Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember
Finney and City Council President Stark
Nay: 0
ORDINANCES
An ordinance is a city law enacted by the City Council. It is read at four separate
council meetings and becomes effective after passage by the Council and 30 days after
publication in the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Public hearings on ordinances are held at
the third reading.
Second Reading
15 Ord 15-54 Creating a commercial development district to be known as the
Schmidt Brewery Commercial Development District pursuant to
Section 17.07.1 of the Saint Paul City Charter and Section 409.20 of
the Saint Paul Legislative Code.
Laid over to November 4 for third reading/public hearing
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16 Ord 15-55 Granting a competitive cable franchise for Qwest Broadband Services
Inc. d/b/a/ CenturyLink.
Council President Stark moved an amendment. The City did due diligence.
6 in favor, none opposed
Amendment is approved and ordinance is laid over to November 4 for third
reading/public hearing
Amended and laid over to November 4 for third reading/public hearing
Yea: 6- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Thao, Councilmember Thune,
Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember Finney and City Council
President Stark
Nay: 0
Absent: 1- Councilmember Brendmoen
First Reading
17 Ord 15-56 Amending Chapter 21 of the Administrative Code pertaining to the
minimum qualifications for City Engineer.
Laid over to November 4 for second reading
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 3:57 p.m.
Yea: 7- Councilmember Bostrom, Councilmember Brendmoen, Councilmember
Thao, Councilmember Thune, Councilmember Tolbert, Councilmember
Finney and City Council President Stark
Nay: 0
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Council Meeting Information
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The agendas and Council files are all available on the Web (see below).
Councilmembers use iPads to review the files during the meeting. Using the iPad
greatly reduces costs since most agendas, including the documents attached to files,
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Saturdays at 12:30 p.m., and Sundays at 1:00 p.m. (Subject to change)
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Agenda
City Hall and Court House
City of Saint Paul 15 West Kellogg Boulevard
Phone: 651-266-8560
Meeting Agenda
City Council
Council President Russ Stark
Councilmember Dan Bostrom
Councilmember Amy Brendmoen
Councilmember Bill Finney
Councilmember Dai Thao
Councilmember Dave Thune
Councilmember Chris Tolbert
Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:30 PM Council Chambers - 3rd Floor
Council Voting
The reader calls the names of all Councilmembers. A vote in favor is cast by remaining silent,
and a vote against is cast by saying no or nay. When the voting is complete, the reader will
state whether the motion passed or failed.
ROLL CALL
CONSENT AGENDA
Note: Items listed under the Consent Agenda will be enacted by one motion with no separate
discussion. If discussion on an item is desired, the item will be removed from the Consent
Agenda for separate consideration.
1 RES Authorizing the Department of Planning and Economic Development to submit
15-1814 applications to the Department of Employment and Economic Development for
Contamination Cleanup and Investigation Grants and to the Metropolitan
Council for Tax Base Revitalization Account Program for the 745 Cleveland
Avenue, Fillmore Avenue, former Sholom Home, and University Avenue Inc
(former Lexington Library) sites.
Sponsors: Stark
2 RES Authorizing the Fire Department to enter into an agreement with Fire Solutions
15-1820 Systems for the use of the Saint Paul Fire Department training facilities.
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Fire Solutions Systems Agreement
3 RES Authorizing the Fire Department to enter into a joint powers agreement with
15-1821 Century College to provide Hazardous Materials Technician training for
firefighters October 12 - November 24, 2015.
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Financial Detail 15-1821
Century College Haz Mat Tech Agreement
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4 RES Authorizing the Department of Parks and Recreation to apply for $143,475 in
15-1826 funding through the Conservation Partners Legacy grant program to enhance
60 acres of woodland habitat at Indian Mounds Regional Park and, if
successful, enter into an agreement providing indemnification for the MN Dept
of Natural Resources.
Sponsors: Finney
5 RES Approving grant funds through the Citywide Neighborhood STAR Year-Round
15-1836 Program for the Lost and Foundry Metal Shed Project in the Schmidt Artists
Lofts.
Sponsors: Stark
6 RES Approving the use of grant funds through the Neighborhood Star
15-1842 Year-Round Program for Historic Saint Paul and Greening the Avenue.
Sponsors: Finney and Thune
7 RES Approving a Liquor Outdoor Service Area (Patio) license to L & E of St Paul,
15-1848 Inc. d/b/a Bay Street Grill and Bar (License ID #20100000617) for the
premises located at 731 Randolph Avenue in Saint Paul.
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: Bay Street Grill and Bar, Signed license condition affidavit 9/11/15
8 RES Approving adverse action against the Cigarette/Tobacco license held by
15-1849 Langano Grocery & Meat LLC d/b/a Langano Grocery & Meat LLC located at
421 University Avenue West in Saint Paul.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: Notice of Intent to Suspend License with Affidavit of Service.pdf
SPLC 310.05(m)
9 RES Approving the Memorandum of Agreement for the 2016 - 2017 Health
15-1851 Insurance contributions. (To be laid over to November 4 for adoption.)
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: 2016 - 2017 Health Ins Contribution MOA
10 RES Approving the 2015 Rules & Regulations for the Department of Parks and
15-1852 Recreation.
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 2015 Rules and Regulations for Parks Brochure.pdf
11 RES Initiating amendments to the Saint Paul Zoning Code pertaining to parkland
15-1856 dedication fee expenditures by referring them to the Planning Commission
pursuant to Minn. Stat. § 462.357, Subd. 4 for a study, report, and
recommendation regarding their adoption.
Sponsors: Thune
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12 RES Approving the Mayor's Reappointment of Ken Peterson to the District Energy
15-1857 of Saint Paul Board of Directors.
Sponsors: Stark
13 RES Accepting the Robert Street Transitway Alternatives Analysis Conclusion.
15-1859
Sponsors: Thune
FOR DISCUSSION
14 AHPC 15-3 Public hearing to consider the appeal of the Central Presbyterian Church to a
condition of approval by the Heritage Preservation Commission regarding one
condition to restore and use metal ridge caps at 500 Cedar Street. (Public
hearing held on October 7, 2015.)
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: HPC Decision Letter for 500 Cedar
HPC Design Review Application for 500 Cedar
Appellant letter Central Pres Church
Staff Report 500 Cedar Central Presbyterian - roof REVISED
Decra Product Info 500 Cedar
Example Photos Submitted by Applicant
500 Cedar - Roofing Size Comparisons
Sample of Historic Slate with Measurements
500 Cedar PowerPoint Presentation for Public Hearing
Adopted HPC Minutes for Public Hearing 08-27-15
Central Presbyterian Church Letter
ORDINANCES
An ordinance is a city law enacted by the City Council. It is read at four separate council
meetings and becomes effective after passage by the Council and 30 days after publication in
the Saint Paul Legal Ledger. Public hearings on ordinances are held at the third reading.
Second Reading
15 Ord 15-54 Creating a commercial development district to be known as the Schmidt
Brewery Commercial Development District pursuant to Section 17.07.1 of the
Saint Paul City Charter and Section 409.20 of the Saint Paul Legislative Code.
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: Exhibit 1-2015 Schmidt Brewery CDD Map
Schmidt Brewery CDD - Planning Commission Resolution #15-43
Schmidt Brewery CDD - Keg House Signed Petition
16 Ord 15-55 Granting a competitive cable franchise for Qwest Broadband Services Inc.
d/b/a/ CenturyLink.
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Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Exhibits A & B
First Reading
17 Ord 15-56 Amending Chapter 21 of the Administrative Code pertaining to the minimum
qualifications for City Engineer.
Sponsors: Stark
SUSPENSION ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT
Council Meeting Information
The City Council is paperless which saves the environment and reduces expenses. The
agendas and Council files are all available on the Web (see below). Councilmembers use
iPads to review the files during the meeting. Using the iPad greatly reduces costs since most
agendas, including the documents attached to files, are over 1000 pages when printed.
Web
Meetings are available on the Council's website. Email notification and web feeds (RSS) of
newly released Minutes, Agendas and Meetings are available by subscription. Please visit
www.stpaul.gov/council for meeting videos and updated copies of the Agendas, Minutes and
supporting documents.
Cable
Meetings are live on St Paul Channel 18 and replayed on: Thursdays at 5:30 p.m., Saturdays at
12:30 p.m., and Sundays at 1:00 p.m. (Subject to change)
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