Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · July 30, 2013
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR 13-37 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 1279
MACKUBIN STREET within fifteen (15) days after the August 21, 2013, City
Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Remove the building within 15 days with no option for repair.
RE: 1279 Mackubin St (Single family)
Paul Belmonte, owner, appeared.
Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
The building is a one-story, wood frame, single-family dwelling on a lot of 7,841
square feet. According to our files, it has been a vacant building since June 30,
2010.
The current property owner is Paul L. Belmonte per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
On May 15, 2013, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken.
An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on May 21, 2013 with a
compliance date of June 20, 2013. As of this date, the property remains in a
condition which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $43,100 on the land and $4,300 on
the building.
Real estate taxes are current through the first half of 2013.
The Vacant Building registration fees in the amount of $1,440 are now due and
owing. (Note: all vacant building fees for previous years have been paid by
assessment.)
As of July 29, 2013, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been done.
As of July 29, 2013, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
There have been five (5) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2010 which
resulted in no WORK ORDERS being issued.
Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$25,000. The estimated cost to demolish is $10,000 to $12,000.
DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders the
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property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days, if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- have no Sanborn Insurance maps or building permit
- built in 1939, maybe as an accessory building
- it's set back on the lot
- small workers cottage
- 1 story, gabled roof house on the North End
- has non-historic siding
- this area was not identified in any way; it's really not even part of the general
character of the neighborhood; it's not consistent with the rest of the primary houses
- this has a very narrow lot; the others in the area are large
- demolition would not have an adverse affect
Mr. Belmonte:
- he is not here to contest
- he wants the city to tear it down so that it's done right
- has been working with Matt Dornfeld
- he bought the property for the land, not the building; will build on it sooner or later
- bought it in 1990
- he will keep maintaining the property
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend the removal of this building within 15 days with no option for
rehabilitation
- City Council Public Hearing Aug 21, 2013
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/21/2013
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
2 RLH SAO 13-27 Appeal of Fern Ewasiuk to a Summary Abatement Order at 1087 ARUNDEL
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant the appeal.
RE: 1087 Arundel St (Single Family)
Ms. Moermond:
- will have the city do the clean-up of the unapproved part of the alley
- has every intention of deleting the assessment associated with that
- when the assessment letter comes through, return the yellow post card saying
you're appealing it and she will grant the appeal
- because there are costs associated with this clean-up, she will make a trade with
the homeowners: she would like them to file to vacate the alley so that it becomes
part of their properties
- procedure for vacating the alley includes fees: 1) the City Clerk charges $100 and
she thinks that the Office of Real Estate charges somewhere around $600, the total
of which could be split up among the neighbors to pay for the vacation
- basically, you need the neighbors' signature in the surrounding area to do a
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vacation; go around and ask people to sign the petition and pony-up for the money
- the Ward 5 City Council Office and the District Council will coordinate help with this
vacation process
- Ms. Lynn Taliaferro agreed to send in her yellow card for the assessment appeal
when it comes
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/21/2013
3 RLH SAO 13-28 Appeal of Lynn Taliaferro to a Summary Abatement Order at 1095 ARUNDEL
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant the appeal.
RE: 1087 Arundel St (Single Family)
Ms. Moermond:
- will have the city do the clean-up of the unapproved part of the alley
- has every intention of deleting the assessment associated with that
- when the assessment letter comes through, return the yellow post card saying
you're appealing it and she will grant the appeal
- because there are costs associated with this clean-up, she will make a trade with
the homeowners: she would like them to file to vacate the alley so that it becomes
part of their properties
- procedure for vacating the alley includes fees: 1) the City Clerk charges $100 and
she thinks that the Office of Real Estate charges somewhere around $600, the total
of which could be split up among the neighbors to pay for the vacation
- basically, you need the neighbors' signature in the surrounding area to do a
vacation; go around and ask people to sign the petition and pony-up for the money
- the Ward 5 City Council Office and the District Council will coordinate help with this
vacation process
- Ms. Lynn Taliaferro agreed to send in her yellow card for the assessment appeal
when it comes
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/21/2013
4 RLH SAO 13-29 Appeal of Neil Dieterich to a Summary Abatement Order at 2171 KNAPP
STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
Property owner in compliance.
Withdrawn
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
5 RLH VO 13-38 Appeal of Tovah Flygare, Southern Minnesota Legal Services, on behalf of
tenants to a Fire Certificate of Occupancy Revocation and Order to Vacate at
1660 CUMBERLAND STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Order withdrawn because issue has been resolved.
Withdrawn
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1:30 p.m. Hearings
Correction Orders
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
6 RLH FCO Appeal of Bruce Johnson to a Correction Order-Reinspection Complaint at
13-173 159 GRANITE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
RE: 159 Granite St (Single Family)
Bruce Johnson, Responsible Party, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- re-inspection of a complaint which took place Jul 15, 2013 by Brian Tonnancour
- 2 complaint items: 1) back porch, steps and railings are unsafe; repair in an
approved manner
- inspector writes: rails, stairs and floor boards, under the floor boards need
repair/replacement
- 2) kitchen sink - repair/replace and maintain an approved kitchen sink; the sink is
leaking below
- speaking with the inspector - likely the P trap leaking; easy fix
- back porch, etc. - have photos which show rot in many places; it's pretty shaky-
inspector said
- it appears that there's some kind of blocks holding up the deck; it should have
footings
- attached deck to house needs some investigating
- looks as though some extensive repairs need to be made to the deck under permit
- the previous complaint came in Jun 4, 2013; it was about a mold problem that is
getting worse; the inspector wrote about basement dampness; water backed up from
a drain in the laundry room (unsanitary interior); fence in the back yard; window
frame and trim; duct tape on the dryer duct; extermination of mice
- last Certificate of Occupancy Inspection was completed in Apr 2013
Mr. Johnson:
- he owns one side of this side-by-side
- the complaint came in because the tenant is behind in rent; and she is on a first
name basis with that inspector so, instead of calling Mr. Johnson to fix it, she calls the
inspector
- he has no problem if there's a real issue
- in this case, he had Roto Rooter come out and he pulled out stuff that she had been
stuffing into the drain; when Mr. Johnson asked her about it, she told him that she
didn't use that and the exact same towels were sitting right on top of the toilet (he
took photos); she is purposely destroying the property to not pay rent
- he started the eviction process; then, she called Southern Minnesota Regional
Legal Services (SMRLS)
- her lease is up in 2 months
- she disconnects and loosens up the pipes under the sink so when the inspector
comes, it'll drip; as soon as you tighten it again, it's fine
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- the place next door (157 Granite) was vacant for 2 years; he called DSI on it; there
was no power, no water; the water pipes burst because there was no heat; the Fire
Dept came out and shut it off so, there were mice there; now they remodeled it
without permits; it was sold; he hired an exterminator
- it was a code compliance building 5-6 years ago and the porch has not changed in
that time period; Jim Seeger came out and approved it as constructed
- Inspector Tonnancour came over and said that if fire men came up the stairs with all
their gear, it could be a problem; however, both he and the inspector came up there
and it didn't move
- his real issue is the lack of courtesy that he would expect from the inspector; for
instance, they had an appointment on the 21st and he said, "Call me when it's done
and I'll swing by and check out the drain." He had it taken care of on Jun 26th, called
him and he never heard back; then, he gets his C of O in the mail and he assumed
that it was done; then, he got a voice mail Jun 15 left at his work on Fri Jun 12; he
has my cell phone number but he left it on the work number (Mr. Johnson does not
work on Fri); the voice mail said that the appointment on the 12th was canceled at 2
pm and he'd re-schedule it for Jun 15th at 9 am; he got to work on Mon and got the
message; however, he doesn't have that flexible of a schedule that he could leave
that same day so, he sent the inspector an Email at 7:41 a.m. about it - he never
heard anything back but the inspector went to the property that day without
responding to me; is concerned about this inspector going to the property on his own
- the inspector has Mr. Johnson's cell phone number and has called him at that
number (Ms. Shaff: asked Mr. Johnson to fill out the contact information on the form
and sign it)
Ms. Moermond:
- the sink sounds as though the issue is already solved and probably won't happen
again
- porch - I need another opinion on the deck/stairs, etc.
- asked Ms. Shaff to take a look at the deck situation - meet Mr. Johnson at the
property
- it bothers her that the deck showed up on this list but not on the previous list
- will lay this over for 2 weeks (Aug 13, 2013 LH)
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/13/2013
7 RLH FCO Appeal of Howard Merrill to a Re-Inspection Fire Certificate of Occupancy
13-174 With Deficiencies at 1080 MACKUBIN STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant until September 15, 2013 for the driveway to come into compliance by adding
more Class 5 and cleaning up the boundaries.
RE: 1080 Mackubin St (Two-family dwelling)
Howard Merrill, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- photos in Legistar
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy re-inspection Jul 17, 2013 by Inspector Scott Perrier
- 2 exterior items left on the report
- garage - scrape and paint
- driveway - the Appellant and the inspector made an agreement on 3-22-13 that the
Appellant needed 90 days to complete the work; but it wasn't completed; photos
show a lot of vegetation; it should be durable, dustless surface
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Mr. Merrill:
- the garage has been addressed
- he consulted with a rental expert, who is also a city council person in another
municipality, who told him that it's grandfathered-in since it's a continued use since
1965 under the requirements of the time and that you can't come in with a new
regulation and make it retroactive
- he did not make an agreement with the inspector back in Mar; the inspector asked
him, "About how much time do you think it might take you to do all this?" That was
not an agreement; it was an estimate of time
Ms. Moermond:
- with all due respect to Mr. Merrill's friend who is on another city council, we are not
talking about whether or not a driveway can be present, we are talking about the
maintenance thereof
- this driveway needs to be maintained as a durable, dustless surface
- when there are weeds growing throughout and the gravel is spreading all over, it's
no longer a driveway, it's a yard full of gravel
- if you have to mow it, it's no longer durable and dustless
- straighten out the edges, clean it up and put in some fresh Class 5
- will grant until Sep 15, 20113 to come into compliance with the driveway: fresh
Class 5 and clean, defined lines on the driveway
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/21/2013
8 RLH FCO Appeal of Andrew Dick to a Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice
13-172 at 739 SIMS AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
LHO recommends the following:
Item 3 (address numbers) - Deny the appeal;
Item 4 (flashing on dormer) - forthcoming;
Item 7 (mattress and other materials in basement) - no longer appealing because in
compliance;
Item 11 (dryer vent) - deny the appeal;
Item 13 (guardrail) - deny the appeal (owner needs to tighten up the guardrail);
Item 16 (smoke detector) - no longer appealing because in compliance
CPH: 9/4/13
RE: 739 Sims Avenue (Three/Four Family Dwelling)
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy inspection conducted by Inspector Brian Tonnancour
on Jul 9, 2013
- 19 deficiencies were listed
- 6 are being appealed: 3, 4, 7, 11, 13, 16
Mr. Dick:
- can take off #16, tenant had just taken it off; it's been replaced
- had code compliance in 2010; all should be code compliant except for whatever the
tenants have caused since then
- #4 flashing on dormer: he sent his roofer out there; roofer said it was fine; that's the
way it's supposed to be
- Mr. Dick called the inspector about it and he was pretty short with him; the inspector
wanted Mr. Dick to seal the flashing (?)
- there's no photo of flashing
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Ms. Shaff:
- will go out and take a look at the flashing; and take photos
Mr. Dick:
- #7 the basement is a partial basement, not a crawl space
- the tenant threw that twin sized box spring away
- tenant has only about 1/20 of the basement filled-up
- the Order says, "Remove mattress and other materials from the basement."
- no photos of basement
- #11 dryer duct - it was all up to code and then maybe a maintenance man put in the
flexible connector just so you could move the dryer a little and it would remain
connected
Ms. Shaff:
- the code does let you use a flexible duct for transition areas; however, the material
that is sold at "big box" stores isn't up to code; what you can use is very expensive
and the UL label must be visible
Mr. Dick:
- he pulled out the washer to get a better photo of the dryer duct; he already took out
the flexible connector
- he read on the city website that you can have flexible duct (Ms. Shaff: the
Mechanical Code is clear on that); it's the stpaul.gov website that says you can have
flexible duct; it doesn't say anything about a UL listing: "A section of flexible metal is
permissible if it is less than 6 feet long."
- he doesn't want to pull a permit and hire a mechanical company to come out just to
say, "Yes, it's fine; and charge me $300."
Ms. Moermond:
- in the letter, this item is called out under the Mechanical Code 504.6
Ms. Shaff:
- the Mechanical Code is clear - unless you owner-occupy the place, you need a
licensed contractor under permit to do the dryer duct work (so that the work is all
done correctly); Ms. Moermond has no leeway on the Mechanical Code; a
mechanical contractor needs to pull a permit and look at this, then have it signed-off
Mr. Dick:
- #3 too - provide Unit #1 and Unit #2 on each of the inside doors; he lists St Paul
Legislative Code 71.01 - and it doesn't say anything about that
- he has Unit #1 and Unit #2 on the mailboxes in front of the house, should be good;
seems nitpicky (Ms. Moermond: wants to review SPLC 71.01) - Ms. Moermond will
amend #3 because Legislative Code 71.01 is incorrect; it should be 71.05 and the
Fire Code is Section 505
- #13 third floor stairway (inspector says the guardrail is shaky); I'll make sure it's
sturdy
Ms. Moermond:
- at City Council Public Hearing Sep 4, 2013
- will lay this over until Aug 13, 2013 LH; Inspector Shaff can put a staff report on that
record
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/13/2013
2:30 p.m. Hearings
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Vacant Building Registrations
9 RLH VBR 13-45 Appeal of Justin Waggoner, JUT Capital, LLC, to a Vacant Building
Registration Requirement at 361 BATES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Lantry
Owner was not notified of date and time.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/6/2013
10 RLH VBR 13-44 Appeal of Adam of Ilfrich, LLC to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement
at 910 MAGNOLIA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Owner was not notified of date and time.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/6/2013
Staff Reports
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