Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · February 4, 2014
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA 14-75 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 703 BEDFORD
STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
703 Bedford Street
Reduce the assessment from $310 to $155.
Seeley
- reported it as a Summary Abatement Order with a compliance date of 11 -6-13
- work was done on 11-8-13 for $310
- no mail was returned
- order sent to Kevin Younge, property management, and occupant
- there is some history on the property
- as assessment is coming later
Bonnie Barlage
- she is with EIG
- recently took management of this property
- this was a problem property
- they took steps to vacant the tenants
- the property sat vacant for a few months
- they invested money to get it looking nice again
- neighbors were not happy that they evicted the people
- t.v.s would show up at the property
(video was shown)
Barlage
- the unit was vacant
- the summary abatement order had carpet on it
Moermond
- this was dumping
- there was a good faith effort
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- Barlage's folks had taken the carpet away
- asked about the history
Seeley
- they took over after July
- it was a huge t.v. and it could not have been dumping
- since then, there was an order on boulevard trash containers
- yesterday, there was three feet of snow, which needs to be cleared out
- there are two properties and it has been really rough
Moermond
- it snowed last week and the neighbors want to walk through that area
- she will lay this over for three months
- then she will have four months
- if it is a spotless record, she will delete the assessment *
- if not, she will recommend approval *
Barlage
- they are in the process of hiring a new maintenance guy
- they have a refugee family in Bedford and they will pay them $25 a month to take
care of the carts
Seeley
- there is no parking back there
Barlage
- none of the people have cars
Moermond
* - will recommend cutting the assessment in half
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
2 RLH TA 14-51 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 714 BELLOWS
STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
714 Bellows Street
If permits are finaled by March 12, 2014, will recommend deleting the fee. As of 3/12
11:00 a.m. permits (electrical and building) have not been finaled.
Carl Berger appeared
Joseph Yannarelly
- this is a Category 1 vacant building
- owner was instructed to pull proper permits
Moermond
- utilities were shut off
Berger
- he talked to them
- the glass and electrical was done
- he picked up the permits
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- he did not know he was in violation
- he used to work as a property inspector
- he does not have the strength he had before
- he is at the point of coming to completion
- it has been handled gingerly on staff’s part
- this is a turn key house and ready to be moved into
- he has interest in North Dakota
- he put $40,000 into the house
- the electrical will be completed next week
- he was going to have all the permits and things done
- he will be putting a new furnace
- he was a juvenile judge for years
- he worked for FINA
- he noticed a lot of things that were not in the initial report
- he is about 90% done
- he will be done within a month
- the only thing that will not be done is he will be putting a roof on
Moermond
- the house moved into the vacant building program October 2012
- a vacant building fee was paid
- there were some months in the vacant building program, which is negligible
- she is ready to let it go
- she would like the permits to be closed
- this goes to Council on March 19
- inspections will be done at that time
- if the major permits are closed out on March 12, she will make sure it is deleted
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
3 RLH TA 14-69 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 662 BURR STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
662 Burr Street
Approve the assessment.
Vlada Gazalabova appeared.
Paula Seeley
- The summary abatement order was issued on 10-30-13, rechecked on 11-6-13
- work was done on 11-8-13 at a cost of $300
- work orders sent to Dana Markhasin, Stephanie Schmidt, and occupant
- summary abatement was for tires in the front yard
Gazalabova
- when they received the letter, the maintenance crew was sent
- maintenance went there on November 20
- the deadline was November 6
- Dana Markhasin and Stephanie Schmidtasks are the management company
Moermond
- the legal obligation is to the owner
- there is no returned mail
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Gazalabova
- she did not receive the original letter
Seeley
- the certificate of occupancy may have been updated after the fact
Moermond
- she got the tax letter
- it was two weeks after the deadline that the work was done
(video shown)
Moermond
- that was a really easy thing for the crew to spot
Gazalabova
- they must have gone there and missed it
Moermond
- the owner was notified
- her crew does not go out there very often
- notice was sent out on October 30 originally
- it was three weeks later when the crew was sent there
- she will recommend approval of the assessment
(Seeley gave Gazalabova her copies of documents)
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
4 RLH TA 14-53 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1405G, Assessment No. 148704 at 1042 BURR STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Inspector called trash hauler, Veolia, on 10/22/13 to check on status of service;
Veolia did not have an account for this address. PO called inspector on 10/30/13
stating they had Veolia for trash service; inspector called Veolia again who said they
had the account listed under 1032 Burr Street which account included 1036 and 1042
Burr Street. Inspector recommends deleting the assessment due to information error.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
5 RLH TA 14-62 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 749 CHARLES
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
749 Charles Avenue
Approve the assessment and spread the payments over 5 years.
Fara Azizudin appeared
Joseph Yannarelly
- vacant building file opened May 6, 2010
- 90 days extension for rehab to be complete
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- it went to assessment because it was not complete
Azizudin
- she was here before
- in August, she totaled her car
- her dad got rear ended, and he was doing the work
- after the car was gone, her job didn’t work out
- she is expecting or hoping to get started
- her dad is telling her two weeks
- four months would be better
Yanarelly
– there are several active permits
Azizudin
- she will borrow money from her sister and get started soon
- she will have been in the program for almost the entire year
- she didn’t have enough workers
- she is taking a loan from her sister
Moermond
- it was in the vacant building program
- it would not be out until the anniversary date
- next year’s fee will be gone
- she will recommend approving it and spread over 5 years
- the real estate office will send out a letter and it will have a bill in it, and you can
make arrangements to them
- when asked if it can be cut in half, Moermond responded Azizudin can go to the City
Council
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
6 RLH TA 14-71 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 322 COTTAGE
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
2/4/14: Owner called and stated missing hearing; rescheduled to 2/18/14.
2/6/14: Owner called again and stated tenant is happy to pay the fees so he don't
need to reschedule hearing.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
7 RLH TA 14-70 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 759 EDGERTON
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
759 Edgerton Street
Approve the assessment.
Vlada Gazalabova appeared. (She also appeared on 662 Burr Street.)
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Paula Seeley
- Summary Abatement Order sent 11-6-13, rechecked 11-12-13
- work was done 11-15-13
- previous complaint of tall grass, weeds
- orders sent to Anton Yelchin, Stephanie Schmidt, and occupant
- summary abatement order has remove mattress and futon from rear yard near alley
Moermond
- wondered if there a call for an extension because order was sent on the 6th,
compliance date on the 12th, and crew didn’t show up until the 15th
- she will treat this issue the same way as 662 Burr Street, but she will look at the
video
(video shown)
Moermond
- approve assessment
- we will give Gazalabova a fire certificate of occupancy form
- we have the right address on record
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
8 RLH TA 14-60 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 589 FOREST
STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
9 RLH TA 14-64 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 766 FULLER AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
766 Fuller Avenue
Delete the assessment.
Shimelis Dadi appeared
Paula Seeley
- summary abatement order sent 11-8-13 with a compliance daet of 11-12-13
- work was done on 11-15-13
- sent to State of Minnesota and Shemelis Dadi
- order is to remove several items
- it was bought from the State of Minnesota
- clearly appears to be illegal dumping
Dadi
- bought in May
- somebody dumped stuff on the land
- got another letter that extended the deadline
- letters are confusing
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Moermond
- (looked at letters from Dadi)
- both are summary abatement orders
- they are the same issues covered in both orders
- the cleanup was done on 11-15-13 before the deadline
- one order was from Skally and the other was Gavin
- they were the same description
- will delete the assessment
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
10 RLH TA 14-19 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 226 GROTTO
STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Thao
Forthcoming.
Referred to the City Council due back on 2/19/2014
11 RLH TA 14-50 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 624 HAZEL STREET
NORTH.
Sponsors: Lantry
2/21/14: See attachment email from Connie Sandberg, DSI, recommended reducing
the fee from $1595 to $1440. LHO concurs with the recommendation.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
12 RLH TA 14-72 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 394 HOPE STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
394 Hope Street
Approve the assessment.
Ben Hosfield appeared
Seeley
- reported that summary abatement order was sent on 11-10-13 with a compliance
date of 11-25-13
- work was done 11-27-13
- no mail returned
- there is some history on the property
- notice sent to Covenant Capitol and Trikin Ventures
- summary abatement order says to remove broken kids bikes, plastic tubs, bricks,
tires in the yard, litter on the boulevard
(video shown)
Hosfield
- he sent his guys to get all of that and he thought they did
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Moermond
- recommend approval
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
13 RLH TA 14-78 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1404A1, Assessment No. 148518 at 649 IVY AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
NOTE: Assessment to be at 2/19 PH but in error, it got scheduled for 3/19 PH. Real
Estate gave new number and will be on for 3/5 PH. No change of recommendation.
649 Ivy Avenue East
Approve the assessment.
Robert Weiker apepared.
- gave Mai Vang (paralegal) a power of attorney, a letter from the owner, and
cancellation for the contract for deed
- the only reason he is here is that Stratford Woodlane says they have never been in
possession of the property
- the affidavit from the fee owner states that
- he is not asking them to eliminate anything done there
- the cancellation of the contract for deed was filed in December 2013
- he does not want any more letters; that is all he is asking for
- they never were in possession of the property
Moermond
- the City pulls the ownership records from the county
- whoever is the owner of record is who shows up in the computer system
- he needs to talk to them
Weiker
- he has a copy from the recorders office
- it shows the cancellation of the contract of deed from the fee owner and Stratford
Woodlane
- at no time was Stratford Woodlane in possession
- it is junk property
- in 19 years, they owned property across the street
- no matter who puts the debris there, you are liable
- the City of Saint Paul does a good job of shoveling and cutting the grass
- he is 83 years old and spends an hour everyday picking up the streets on Wilson
and Bates because people throw junk in the street
- there is no way you can train them
Seeley
- the owner of the property is Stratford Woodlane
Moermond
- she will approve the assessment
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/5/2014
14 RLH TA 14-59 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
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Project No. J1405G, Assessment No. 148704 at 764 JAMES
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
Owner missed hearing and contacted the office on February 5; can't make hearing
until March 18.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014 (Legislative Hearing on
March 18, 2014)
15 RLH TA 14-63 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 707 JESSAMINE AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Delete the assessment; rehab completed less than 30 days after anniversary date.
(No hearing necessary)
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
16 RLH TA 14-77 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 754 MAGNOLIA
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
754 Magnolia Avenue East
Approve the assessment.
Angelita and Timothy Phipps appeared.
Angelina and Timothy Phipps appeared.
Yannarelly
- came into the vacant building program Sept. 18
- condemned for lack of water service
- it is in as a Category 1
Angelita
- looking at this vacant building fee and the time period
- fee has April 8 to December 18, which is incorrect
- amount is $1440
Moermond
- she can explain it
- (Angelina approached)
- vacant building fee billed during this time period
- the bill went out ahead of time
Angelita
- they went through a bankruptcy, Chapter 7
- they went to court on May 6
- they were discharged out of bankruptcy
- this house was also put into bankruptcy
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Timotny
- the mortgage company took over the house
- they do not have ownership of the property
Angelita
- they talked to Paula
- they knew the water was going to be shut off
- they vacated Aug 18
- Paula said they had two days to vacate the premises
- they were not living there; they were just moving stuff out
- it had gone back to the bank
- she is wondering if she could sign over the deed in lieu
Moermond
- responded she does not take deeds in lieu
- asked who is showing up as the tax owner of the property
Seeley
- the Phipps show up as the tax owner
Angelita
- sheriff sale was 11-26-13
Moermond
- they will not be stuck with the bill
- the bank will be stuck with the bill if they are in title
- she will leave it on the property
- they are not the owner of the property and are not responsible
- the bill stays with the property
(There was some discussion between the Phipps and Yannarelly about items
remaining in the property. The Phipps were advised to contact the inspector to get
the items out; however, it is the mortgage company that probably put the padlock on
the property.)
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
17 RLH TA 14-76 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1615 MARGARET STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
1615 Margaret Street
Delete the assessment.
Ben Hosfield appeared.
Seeley
- Summary Abatement Order sent 11-8-13 with a compliance date of 11-13-13
- no mail returned
- SAO sent to Covenant Capital and to the occupant
- SAO has bags of yard waste and tires near the alley
(video shown)
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Hosfield
- he removed the things by the alley
- he didn’t know the back yard was an issue
Moermond
- clearly there was a yard of leaves and people were raking it up
- deleted the assessment
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
18 RLH TA 14-6 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 1152 MARION
STREET. (Amended to Project No. J1404A3, Assessment No.
148520)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
1152 Marion Street
To be laid over for 3 months. If no more nuisance abatement, LHO will recommend
deleting the assessment.
Darlene Hoppe and Rosa Patterson appeared.
Paula Seeley
- summary abatement order sent 10-23-13 with compliance date of 10-30-13
- work was done 10-31-13
- sent to Darlene Hoppe and occupant
- summary abatement includes pallet, wood, uncovered garbage containers, and light
bulbs in alley
Hoppe
- said there were two containers open
- there was a broken dresser
- she never had light bulbs in her containers
(Video shown)
Seeley
- when people see containers without covers, it is inviting
Peterson
- in response to a question, responded that one of the containers was hers
- pickup is on Mondays
- they wouldn’t pickup the barrel with the light bulbs in it
Moermond
- she sees that the notice went out on Wednesday, the 23rd
- on Monday, there would be garbage pickup
- she would have learned on Monday for sure
- she wondering why they didn’t address it
Patterson
- she called the person that came out there on the 31st
- they picked up the containers
- she pulled that container into the garage
- the summary abatement order talks specifically about containers and light bulbs
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- the people next door were remodeling
Hoppe
- a whole bucketful of light bulbs would have to be someone from construction
- she pays the bill next month
- no one else was living upstairs
Moermond
- the notice that went out said specifically that the barrel with the light bulbs would
have to be taken care
- the responsibility for garbage service lies with the landlord
- she sees that there was notice and there was opportunity given to clean it up
- she is not hearing there was a stop taken to deal with this
Hoppe
- there was a stop because Peterson called someone
- people next door put stuff there all the time
- if they had belonged to Patterson, she would have put it back in the garage
- she is the best tenant Hoppe has had
Moermond
- will lay this over for three months
- if there are no problems there, she will recommend they delete it
- if there are problems, she will recommend they approve it
Referred to the City Council due back on 2/19/2014 (Public Hearing to be
continued to May 21, 2014)
19 RLH TA 14-54 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1846 MARSHALL
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
1846 Marshall Avenue
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
20 RLH TA 14-52 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 515-517 MINNEHAHA
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
515 Minnehaha Avenue East
Delete the assessment. Notification went to previous owner.
Mai Vang
- said this would be the second reschedule
- told owner she could read the written statement at the hearing
- owner is recovering from a broken leg
Moermond
- assessment should be deleted
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- she closed on October 14
- the notice went out 11-14-13
Paula Seeley
- it was a mess yesterday
Referred to the City Council due back on 2/19/2014
21 RLH TA 14-74 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 610 MINNEHAHA AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Owner to provide closing statement. Recommendation is forthcoming.
610 Minnehaha Avenue East
Bonnie Barlage
- it is cleanup
Seeley
- Summary Abatement Order sent 10-30-13
- work done on 11-8-13
- orders sent to James Sundberg, Fletcher, and occupant
- orders to remove mattresses from rear yard
Barlage
- it is a new owner
Moermond
- this assessment stays with the property
- laid over for two weeks to get it squared away
- she would like to know when the property got transferred
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 2/18/2014
22 RLH TA 14-65 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1232 SEVENTH
STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
1232 Seventh Street East
Laid over to get more information from the work crew and owner's contractor.
Rose Blalock, TAV Investors, owner, and Mr. Frelix
Frelix
- TAV is a family business
Blalock
- has no clue of what this is.
Seeley
- Summary Abatement Order was sent on 10-15-13 with a compliance date of
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10-25-13
- work as done on 11-4-13
- no mail returned
- several complaints of overflowing dumpster on property
- previous complaints of trash in yard, snow and ice
- orders sent to Blalock and occupant to empty dumpster or remove it
- complaint came from fire inspector who wanted it out of there
(video shown)
Blalock
- they had a contractor who was doing a tear down of the garage
- Inspector James Thomas was coming around and interfering
- they had problems with neighborboods putting things into the dumpster
- she thought the City had removed the dumpster
- the company that rented the dumpster was the one who came
- they are trying to figure out how they are stuck with a bill
- they cleaned up after every notice
- Inspector James was harassing the contractors
- they did get a new inspector
- he put a notice on the door saying everyone in the building had to be removed
Moermond
- the dumpster looked full
Seeley
- they dump it at Veolia and then they contact the company and tell them to pick it up
- this originated from a long line of stuff from the certificate of occupancy
(Lots of talk back and forth)
Moermond
- will lay over to February 18, 9:00.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 2/18/2014
23 RLH TA 14-56 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. 1404T, Assessment No. 149003 at 683 SIMON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
24 RLH TA 14-55 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 290 STINSON
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
290 Stinson Street
Approve the assessment and spread the payments over 3 years.
Piper Van Ness appeared
- she got a notice to get this cleaned up
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- the renter said the stuff was not hers
- her husband went over and removed some stuff
- she got another notice
- she called the officer and he said it looked like it had been cleaned up so don’t
worry about it
Seeley
- summary abatement order was sent 11-14-13
- work was done on 11-21-13 for $476
- sent to Piper Van Ness and occupant
(video shown)
Ness
- said she was surprised and had no idea what it looked like
- it was not her stuff
Moermond
- recommends approval and divide over 3 years
(owner returned to the legislative hearing room later)
Van Ness
- talked to her husband, and he was wondering if it is possible to make it the tenant’s
responsibility
Moermond
- that is a private contractural relationship with the tenant
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
25 RLH TA 14-79 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. 1404T, Assessment No. 149003 at 1046 STINSON
STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
26 RLH TA 14-66 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 523 TEDESCO
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
27 RLH TA 14-67 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 832 THIRD STREET
EAST.
Sponsors: Lantry
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No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
28 RLH TA 14-68 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 647 VAN BUREN
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
647 Van Buren Avenue
Reduce the assessment from $476 to $237.
Stephane Reis appeared.
Seeley
- Summary Abatement Order sent 11-6-13
- work was done on 11-14-13 for $476
- no mail returned
- SAO also issued 7-13-13 about loose garbage outside container rear yard alley
- orders went to Tim Reis Construction and to occupant
Reis
- she never got the original letter
- if you look at the history, they take care of it
- during this time period, the tenant took off
- at one time, there was a van in the backyard
(video shown)
Reis
- she didn’t know it was there
- they never let things go to assessment
- she had a tow truck called to pick up the van
Seeley
- Skally sent a SAO in July on the same thing as Novmber
(they looked at photographs together, then they went to Seeley’s laptop to look at
photos)
(looked at video again)
Reis
- they clean up everything
- they cannot afford this assessment
- if she had the first order, she would have had it cleaned up
Moermond
- asked for other history
Seeley
– one in 2012 and one in 2011; one a year
Moermond
- there is responsibility there
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- owner didn’t get the order
- she has taken care of things in the past
- she will cut the assessment in half to $237
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
Special Tax Assessment Rolls
29 RLH AR 14-1 Ratifying the assessments for Collection of Vacant Building Fees billed
April 8 to September 18, 2013. (File No. VB1405, Assessment No.
148804)
Sponsors: Lantry
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
30 RLH AR 14-2 Ratifying the assessments for Property Clean Up Services during
November 2013. (File No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504)
Sponsors: Lantry
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
31 RLH AR 14-3 Ratifying the assessments for Trash Hauling Services during
November 2013. (File No. J1405G, Assessment No. 148704)
Sponsors: Lantry
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
32 RLH AR 14-4 Ratifying the assessments for Tree Removal Services during
November 2013. (File No. 1404T, Assessment No. 149003)
Sponsors: Lantry
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/19/2014
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
33 RLH SAO 14-2 Appeal of James Wacek and Nora Liksai to a Summary Abatement
Order at 1364 ALASKA AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Inspector gave owner extension until March 1, 2014 for compliance.
Withdrawn
1:30 p.m. Hearings
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Fire Certificates of Occupancy
34 RLH FCO 14-22 Appeal of Lyle Rambo to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at
877 CHARLES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
877 Charles Avenue
Owner asked for extension of March 1 deadline as his wife passed. LH recommends
April 1, 2014 deadline.
RecommendGrant until March 1, 2014 for items to come into compliance with the
exception of the roof which is granted until September 1, 2014.
Lyle Rambo appeared along with Mike Hotzler.
A.J. Neis
- this is a Fire Certificate of Occupancy notice in response to a complaint received on
Jan. 9 that the kitchen sink was falling
- inspector went to the property and identified multiple code violations
- there is a lot of deferred maintenance in the home
- it is unkept
- the certificate of odcupance is due for renewal
Rambo
- it is not the floor, it is the ceiling
- (he approached and showed Moermond a sample of the ceiling)
- the lady upstairs ran the sink over
- he asked her when she will pay the rent
- there are other things written there for the sidewalk
- after his son passed away, he divided it so he can make the payments
- the one upstairs is only a month and a half behind
- neither tenant has paid anything this month
- he is not supposed to do any lifting; he just had heart surgery
- whenever he goes down, he takes care of the sidewalk
- the inspector came out right after that snow storm
- they don’t sweep the steps
- his shovel disappeared; he has to take another shovel down there
- (spoke of the tenants being behind in the rent).
Moermond
-asked does he have any other properties.
Rambo
- his son passed away and that is why he has it
- his wife just got out of the hospita and is in a nursing home
- the inspector has seen how dirty it is
- he cannot find anything wrong with the cabinets
Moermond
- she does not see anything about the cabinets.
Rambo
- tenant will not let him in
- he only goes in when they are there because he could get accused of taking
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something
Neis
- the City holds the landlord responsible for damages caused by the tenant
- the owner can also find a company to provide the services
Rambo
- he took the one upstairs to court, and the judge gave her three months to catch up
on the back rent
Neis
- roof – there are a few pictures that show the shingles have deteriorated. This was
only a complaint inspection
- the inspector did not do a full inspection on the property
- the chimney is an issue
Moermond
- it looks like there is a tree coming out of the chimney
Rambo
- he is not sure about the chimney
Neis
- Item 3 is to grant the inspector to the building so he can check the property
- Item 4 – doors do not fit tightly into the frames, multiple locks on the doors, holes in
the door
- shower doors need maintenance in one of the units
- fire extinguishers are not required, but have to be maintained if there
- if the owner does not want to pay for new extinguishers, he could get rid of them
- Item 8 is for holes in the wall
- usually when there are holes of that nature, they are tenant related
- windows are in good condition
- frames are rotten and deteriorated
- kitchen cabinets – Item 10 – are gross unsanitary. They are out of sync, a little
warped, and need to be cleaned
- he would instruct his inspectors to not touch the cabinets because of the stuff on
them
- there are missing tiles on the floor, some of the gaps are hard to see because the
dirt looks like it could be caulk
- the inspector only wrote up 12 orders, but there may be 30 other things that need to
be written up
- there seems to be a lot of deferred maintenance
Rambo
- knows it is dirty
- the City comes up with complaints but when he tries to do anything about it, they
say he has to go to court
- he pays the sewer, water, garbage
- now he gets a bill for storm sewer
- his plan is to evict them come spring, and sell it
Neis
- one of the things he is looking at is the unsanitary conditions could cause them to
condemn the building
- if they are not getting compliance with the landlord, they can start off with a
revocation with an order to vacate, then they will move to a condemnation
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- the revocation and condemnation have the same effect on the building
- given the way the tenants are living, he does not know how the owner can get a
really good start with the tenants living there
Rambo
- asked what protection does the landlord have
Moermond
- the City cannot get involved in private arrangements between him and the tenants
Neis
- asked how long he owned the property
Rambo
- he has had it for a long time
Neis
- there appears to be a trend of the building being in disrepair back to 2001
- (gave a list of problems dating back from 2001 to 2012)
- rubbish, rent, leak in plumbing, insects, mold, etc.
- 2011 – this was inspected by Imbertson, there was a garage issue, and it was taken
down
- the furnace and water heater were not being taken care of
- it appears there is a long history of hard to maintain compliance
- the owner should screen his tenants more
- there are free classes for landlords
Moermond
- asked owner what he is looking for
Rambo
- time to do something so that he can get in there
Moermond
- she is sympathetic for a little bit
- he has to get in and fix things
Rambo
- concurred and said he wants to get in there, too
Neis
- received ten days from Inspector Hall
- he was expecting all the items to be complete by today
- they do not inspect him to have his roof fixed in 9 days
- the inspector would like a good faith effort
- they wanted to get into the property today
Rambo
- he talked to the tenant today for the rent
- she said the inspector was there today
Moermond
- she would like the inspector to come around March 1 and send out a letter
- then, these things can be addressed except for the roof
- she is happy to go to September 1 on the roof and chimney issues
- the owner is going to get another set of orders
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- Neis should get the inspector scheduled and have the whole house looked at
- the inspector will let the owner know the date and time
- if the owner does not comply with those orders, the certificate will be revoked and
the building emptied.
Neis said the week of March 3 they will send out an appointment
(Rambo showed receipts to Moermond)
(Moermond is granting an extension to March 3 on the existing orders. The roof has
an extension to September 1)
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/5/2014
35 RLH FCO Appeal of Gary T Walker to a Re-Inspection Fire Certificate of
13-256 Occupancy with Deficiencies at 1011 VICTORIA STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
1011 Victoria Street North
Grant the appeal to allow owner to continue to be in the Fire Certificate of Occupancy
Program if he has his permit finaled by April 1, 2014. If not, he will be referred to the
Vacant Building Program.
Moermond
- read into the record that the owner cannot come because of the distance
Neis
- he has not had an inspection since July
- the building inspector did not want to sign off on the ceiling issue
- it may need a variance granted
- perhaps that is what is holding upon the permit
Dornfeld
- they do not have a current file
- they closed it without it being code compliance
.
Neis
- Insp. Thomas indicated the there was a final wall covering on walls and stairs
- at 6 feet it should be 6'8" or get variance
- the last notes on this file were 7-22-13
- very little left to complete
- have not had any complaints
- the warm air permit was finaled
- the building permit may have been slowed up because of the head room
- there are minor things to take care of
- he is comfortable putting this back into the certificae of occupancy program
Mai
- owner said he has been in Arizona, but is back
Neis
- owner's son is living at the property
- it still has the address of Arizona
- he is comfortable putting it back in the certificate of occupancy program
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Moermond
- recommend the Council grant the appeal to allow the property to continue in the Fire
certicate of occupancy program and not the vacant building program if the permits
are finaled by April 1
- if they are not finaled by April 1, they can be in the vacant bulding program
Referred to the City Council due back on 2/19/2014
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
36 RLH VBR 14-7 Appeal of Loni LaBrocca to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 72
ROSE AVENUE WEST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
72 Rose Avenue West
Grant the appeal.
Lonie LaBrocca is here.
Neis
- this was a referral sent to the office from St. Paul Regional Water on 11-20-13 for a
water shutoff
- a letter was sent out on 11-22-13 indicating the building was condemned and
restore water service by 12-2-13
- On 12-3-13, Inspector Urmann followed up with Water Department & it was still off
- notified owner and property manager
- property manager said the tenant moved out and it would be taken care of
- on 12-4-13, the water still had not been turned on
- inspector went out, the property was still vacant
- inspector indicated he did not provide the proper notice to owner
Dornfeld
- Kalis opened a Category 2 vacant building on 1-27-14
- he noted minimal things, other than the fact house was vacant
- it was maintained and appeared to be in fair shape on the exterior
- there is a truth-in-sale of housing on file
LaBrocca
- after the tenants moved out, the owners wanted to put the house up to sale
- truth-in-sale of housing was done after it was vacated.
Dornfeld
- it looks clean
- there are some open electrical wiring
- it looks like it is in decent shape
Neis
- he cannot in good faith stand up for the inspector’s condemnation orders if notice
was not given to the property owner
LaBrocca
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- she has the printout of the payment to the water company made out on 11-16-13
- we didn’t get a letter
- she called Perrier, who said he was not able to reverse it
- he refered her to Matt, who suggested they come down there
- Perrier had called the water company as well as she
- they have confirmation that the water was turned out, and we had confirmation that
payment was made on line
- Water said there was a glitch in the system and that several people got notices that
the water service was not paid when it was paid
- she asked if it can be reversed
Moermond
- recommends granting the appeal
Neis
- asked if they need to do a certificae of occupancy inspection
LaBrocca
- to her knowledge, it will not be a rental; the owners will inhabit
Neis
- they will hold off until May to see if the transaction has gone through
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/5/2014
Window Variances: No Hearing Necessary
37 RLH FCO 14-19 Appeal of Joe Brennan to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at
724 WILSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Lantry
724 Wilson Avenue
Grant a 2-inch ceiling height variance for both the front and back basement
bedrooms.
(grant without hearing)
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/5/2014
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-75 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 703 BEDFORD STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
2 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-51 No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 714 BELLOWS STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
3 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-69 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 662 BURR STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
4 RLH TA Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-53 No. J1405G, Assessment No. 148704 at 1042 BURR STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
5 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-62 No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 749 CHARLES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
6 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-71 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 322 COTTAGE AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
7 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-70 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 759 EDGERTON STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
8 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-60 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 589 FOREST STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
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9 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-64 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 766 FULLER AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
10 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-19 No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 226 GROTTO STREET
NORTH.
Sponsors: Thao
11 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-50 No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 624 HAZEL STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Lantry
12 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-72 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 394 HOPE STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
13 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-78 No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 649 IVY AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
14 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-59 No. J1405G, Assessment No. 148704 at 764 JAMES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
15 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-63 No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 707 JESSAMINE AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
16 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-77 No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804 at 754 MAGNOLIA AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
17 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-76 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1615 MARGARET STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
18 RLH TA 14-6 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 1152 MARION STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
19 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-54 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1846 MARSHALL AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
20 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-52 No. J1404A, Assessment No. 148503 at 515-517 MINNEHAHA
AVENUE EAST.
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Sponsors: Brendmoen
21 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-74 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 610 MINNEHAHA AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
22 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-65 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 1232 SEVENTH STREET
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
23 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-56 No. 1404T, Assessment No. 149003 at 683 SIMON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
24 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-55 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 290 STINSON STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
25 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-79 No. 1404T, Assessment No. 149003 at 1046 STINSON STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
26 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-66 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 523 TEDESCO STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
27 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-67 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 832 THIRD STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Lantry
28 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
14-68 No. J1405A, Assessment No. 148504 at 647 VAN BUREN AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Special Tax Assessment Rolls
29 RLH AR 14-1 Ratifying Collection of Vacant Building fees billed April 8 to September
18, 2013. (File No. VB1405, Assessment No. 148804)
Sponsors: Lantry
30 RLH AR 14-2 Ratifying Property Clean Up services during November 2013. (File No.
J1405A, Assessment No. 148504)
Sponsors: Lantry
31 RLH AR 14-3 Ratifying Trash Hauling services during November 2013. (File No.
J1405G, Assessment No. 148704)
Sponsors: Lantry
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32 RLH AR 14-4 Ratifying Tree Removal services from November 2013. (File No. 1404T,
Assessment No. 149003)
Sponsors: Lantry
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
33 RLH SAO Appeal of James Wacek and Nora Liksai to a Summary Abatement
14-2 Order at 1364 ALASKA AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
34 RLH FCO Appeal of Lyle Rambo to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at
14-22 877 CHARLES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
35 RLH FCO Appeal of Gary T Walker to a Re-Inspection Fire Certificate of
13-256 Occupancy with Deficiencies at 1011 VICTORIA STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
36 RLH VBR Appeal of Loni LaBrocca to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 72
14-7 ROSE AVENUE WEST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Window Variances: No Hearing Necessary
37 RLH FCO Appeal of Joe Brennan to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at
14-19 724 WILSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Lantry
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