Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · April 22, 2014
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH OA 14-1 Recommending that the Board of Ramsey County Commissioners
deny the application of Kerry Essler for repurchase of tax forfeited
property at 663 LAFOND AVENUE. (Reconsidered and public hearing
continued from April 9) (Amended to approve the application for
repurchase)
Sponsors: Thao
Recommends the County approve the repurchase of the property provided the
following conditions are met:
1) for a period of 3 years, the property owner shall have a public health/house calls
social worker visit 2 times a year with the requirement that hoarding and unsanitary
conditions be reported to City Code Enforcement officials; and
2) alternatively, the property owner would be required to maintain a Fire Certificate of
Occupancy with annual inspections; and
3) additionally, companion animals must be licensed and vaccinated per City code;
not exceed the legally allowable number of three and be spayed/neutered.
RE: 663 Lafond Avenue (Single Family)
Ms. Moermond:
- will will amend the resolution to recommend the county approve the repurchase
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/7/2014
2 SR 14-36 Reviewing request of owner to have Council reconsider its Order to
Remove or Repair the Structures at 438-442 BEACON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
The Bank decided not to rehabilitate the building; therefore, DSI can proceed with
demolition unless the owner decides to do the demolition.
RE: 438-442 Beacon Avenue (Single Family)
Christian Brandt, attorney representing Bayview Loan Servicing, appeared.
City of Saint Paul Page 1
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
Mr. Brandt:
- late last night, he got word that the bank decided not to go ahead with the repairs
- apparently, the numbers didn't work out for them
- the $5,000 Performance Deposit had been made
Ms. Moermond:
- write a letter to the Department of Safety and Inspections ask for the $5,000 to be
refunded
- will let DSI know and they will go ahead with the demolition
Received and Filed
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
3 RLH SAO 14-8 Appeal of Alfonso Gomez to a Summary Abatement Order and
Correction Notice at 1717 ENGLEWOOD AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
Grant until May 9, 2014 for compliance.
RE: 1717 Englewood Avenue (Single Family)
A friend appeared on behalf of the owner, Alfonzo Gomez.
Appellant:
- Mr. Gomez' English isn't sophisticated enough to read the Summary Abatement
Order and Correction Notice
- his deceased wife's father became ill on Easter; and Mr. Gomez drove to Algona,
Iowa, and is on his way back now; don't know whether or not he'll get here in time
Ms. Moermond:
- pointed out the statement in Spanish at the top of the Summary Abatement Order
Inspector Scott St. Martin:
- Inspectors Kaisersatt and Ross are here for a learning experience
- Apr 1, 2014: complaint of discarded furniture, abandoned vehicles, etc.
- Apr 2, 2014: sent Orders to remove improperly stored/accumulated refuse,
including appliances, vehicles; also sent a Correction Notice to remove a commercial
vehicle; compliance date of Apr 14, 2014
- today, he went out and took some pictures; he made vast improvements over what
was there previously but work still needs to be done
- he spoke with the Appellant prior to today's hearing about the possibility of seeking
help from House Calls - Dumpster
- today, the commercial truck was gone and also some of the other things; a lot of
clean-up has taken place
Ms. Moermond:
- sees a lot of metal; is this a scrapping situation?
Appellant:
- no, he doesn't scrap
City of Saint Paul Page 2
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
- entered documents including a work plan
- after his wife passed away, people began to help him and he bought a new stove;
the old stove was removed from the kitchen and dismantled and apparently, there's
enough metal for him to sell it; he would benefit from the proceeds of the sale; he still
needs to put it in the pick-up truck that he's repaired and take it to the person who
buys it
Mr. St. Martin:
- it didn't appear to be a scrapping business; it appears to be more of a collection of a
lot of different things that had been discarded
- the inspection dealt only with the exterior complaint; did not go inside
- they have an aggressive work plan to finish the job
Appellant:
- Mr. Gomez' wife, Carla, of 22 years, died from a very sudden serious disease; she
had been a nurse who worked for the SPPD as well as Regions and Public Health;
Mr. Gomez works at Regions Hospital on the night shift; his English is limited; he has
a long history of working; his wife handled all of the record keeping for the household
so when she became ill, a lot of the record keeping fell into disarray; people who
have come over to try to help have moved things around making the problem worse
- in addition, his daughter was in a car accident
- Mr. Gomez has done a lot of work so far; he has enlisted the help of his friends
- that commercial truck had to be repaired before it could be licensed and moved; it
was taken care of
- there are 2 vehicles there that he does not own nor were the titles transferred to
him; they tried to investigate the titles but all of that information had been purged;
looked into the procedure of an untitled vehicles - it requires bonding, etc. but Mr.
Gomez can't afford that; he is willing to have those vehicles removed
- he has a current licensed tagged pick-up truck, in addition to his personal vehicle,
that he wants to use to haul the scrap metal to the buyer and he also wants to use it
for hauling the woody brush from the yard to the composite site; that truck needs to
be repaired: battery and brakes before he can use it; that's why they are asking for a
little more time
- they are trying to get rid of the items in an earth friendly way
- because he has already accomplished so much, he will be able to finish the job in a
reasonable amount of time; he is committed and wants to apply
Ms. Moermond:
- when she sees things like this on the outside of the house, she becomes concerned
about the inside, especially, in the case of bereavement; the inside of the house
could be full
- Orders can be sent in both Spanish and English; and there's an available sevice
called Language Line (interpreted phone conversation)
- the city also has a very good Spanish interpreter on staff
- the Ward 4 aide also speaks Spanish
Appellant:
- the house is not full; it's in disarray and it's not clean; 2 of his friends have moved in
and are working on that
- his wife was unable to clean because she was ill and his daughter, who speaks
English and is in college, was in a car accident; she is now in charge of the record
keeping
- he also has a very well-behaved highly trained dog, a Jack Russell Terrier
- Mr. Gomez works at Regions Hospital; has excellent health care and has seen a
bereavement counselor; currently, he is back to work and functioning well
- asked if there is any discount for removing the 2 vehicles? They now have tabs; he
City of Saint Paul Page 3
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
found them
- getting the pick-up truck repaired is crucial; it will be repaired in the neighborhood
- to finish up, it will probably take between 2-3 weeks
Ms. Moermond:
- to speed up the clean-up, she suggested that another vehicle besides Mr. Gomez'
truck be used to remove these things
Appellant:
- the pick-up truck can probably be repaired within a week's time; the shop is right on
University and Aldine; doesn't think the repair will be a time-consuming problem
Ms. Moermond:
- original date of the Order: Apr 2, 2014
- appeal was filed on Apr 9, 2014
- original compliance date: Apr 14, 2014
Mr. St. Martin:
- it's just a matter of getting it all cleaned up
- explained that a "Manager's Tag" could be used to tow the vehicles at no cost
because they are not their own vehicles and they are on their property
- ultimately, they would like to see the recycling, but if that's not an option, a free
dumpster could be obtained from House Calls
- they have a nice work plan
Ms. Moermond:
- the plan is a good one
- City Council Public Hearing May 7, 2014
- deadline: May 9, 2014; practically speaking, the inspector will come to inspect on
Mon, May 12, 2014
- you can do a "Manager's Tow" because the vehicles were abandoned on the
property (Parking Enforcement)
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/7/2014
Correction Orders
4 RLH CO 14-2 Appeal of Anton Soukhanov to a Correction Order at 1280 SEVENTH
STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thune
Grant until July 15, 2014 for the owner to go through a site plan review for the parking
issue. The parking area has to be dramatically diminished to 3 parking spaces.
Grant the use of a Class 5 parking surface but the owner will need to put some sort of
separation between the parking area and the grass area (clean boundaries). The
owner must also maintain the property.
RE: 1280 Seventh Street West (Apartments)
Anton Soukhanov, owner, appeared.
Mr. Soukhanov:
- appealing: 1) the railing; one is installed and is up to code; 2) the driveway - 4
months ago when I was here, 2 fire inspectors came out and they both agreed that it
was OK; that's how I got my Certificate of Occupancy
City of Saint Paul Page 4
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
Ms. Moermond:
- thinks that Mr. Soukhanov Withdrew that appeal although he says that he didn 't
Mai Vang:
- checked back on that appeal and it was Withdrawn
- it was a Correction Notice from Inspector Rick Gavin dated Oct 23, 2013;
compliance date Oct 28, 2013
- called out: vehicles must be correctly licensed ........... and they need to be on an
approved surface.. "
Inspector Scott St. Martin:
- following up on the Code Enforcement Correction Notice
- had complaints coming in about overflowing trash containers and putting trash in a
pick-up truck
- Apr 1, 2014 - Inspector Ross went out and sent a Correction Order of sanitation to
immediately remove all outdoor stored materials including refuse, trash receptacles,
bags, wooden table and refuse in pick-up truck; he also noted that the vehicles were
parked on an unapproved surface; cease parking on the unapproved surface and to
get a permit or re-surface
- Mar 14, 2014 read Fire Order: multiple items - zoning site plan is needed; the
exterior was called out, too
- Mar 26 - re-inspection
- Mar 27 - more Orders sent with re-inspection Apr 15, 2014 by Inspector Shaff
Ms. Moermond:
- from the photos, it looks like a compacted dirt surface
Mr. Soukhanov:
- he agrees with everything - trash & refuse has to be gone; truck is gone; it's parked
somewhere else
- he has photos
- thinks the railing is adequate; if he could afford to get a new one, he would; the
same with the driveway, if he could afford $4,700 for asphalt or maybe
$9,000-$10,000 for concrete, he would do it
- both are adequate and are up to code
- his tenants are slashing his tires; they will be out soon
- although the asphalt is deteriorated, the inspector did approve it about 3 months
ago they approved his C of O (that was the big issue)
- the railing isn't in bad shape; it's just an old school 1970 railing; there's no
movement in it; it's secure
Mr. St. Martin:
- both Inspector Ross and he have been out there
- maybe the parking area didn't look as bad last fall but with this bad winter - freezing
and thawing have turned it into dirt and mud
- at this point, both Inspector Ross and he agree that the surface needs something to
be done
Mr. Soukhanov:
- they are correct but that's actually the alley (he can show a picture); the alley is
ridiculous
Mr. St. Martin:
- he agrees: the alley is very rugged
City of Saint Paul Page 5
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
Mr. Soukhanov:
- the gravel on the alley was actually put in 5-6 years ago by the government
- in the main driveway, there are maybe three or four 2' x 2' x 4" water holes; his
tenants have never complained about them
- tenants: a mom, whose kids are taking advantage of her with their boyfriends and
girlfriends; they throw parties, etc; he's has called the police 6 or 7 times (on record)
and they go out the back door or the front door; they even got away when the police
surrounded the place
- tenants will be out in 9 days; he gave them 1 1/2 months notice on their contract; he
believes that they will fight it
Ms. Moermond:
- so, they are not going to be gone; there's a fair chance the neighborhood will
continue to have this situation
- thinks that Mr. Soukhanov didn't do adequate tenant screening
Mr. Soukhanov:
- it's been smooth sailing with the tenants for the past year until they slashed his tires
because he asked them to pay the rent on time
- the neighbors so far, have only voiced a problem with the garbage
- screening tenants needs some work; these problem tenants were recommended by
a great tenant of his, who's been with him for 6 years
- after they got notice to vacate the property, these tenants took a hammer to another
tenant's car and put a hole in the transmission
Ms. Moermond:
- this surface is not an acceptable parking surface; the asphalt is deteriorating to the
point of compacted dirt
- the alley certainly looks like it needs more class 5; she can put in a call to Public
Works
- the worst ruts are adjacent to a garbage can
Inspector Ross:
- to get a contrast, he took a picture of a bench - the paved area is the adjacent
parking lot for the adjacent building; none of this area is actually paved; it might be
recycled class 5, class 6, class 7, which is asphalt mixed with ... ; if it was ever
paved, boy! it's in bad shape
- also, the pick-up truck with the snow plow was there on Fri
Ms. Moermond:
- wondering if the back yard is completely compacted or is it just this 2-vehicle depth
area of compacted dirt for parking
Mr. Ross:
- and about 4 cars wide
- thinks there's some grass in the back area
Mr. Soukhanov:
- the parking area is 1000 sq.ft; you can squeeze 5 cars in there
- it seems like he's going to lose this case, so, can he make his tenants park on a
side street so that he doesn't have to put in a approved surface for parking? (he just
doesn't have the money to do it)
- they are up-side-down on the property (bought it for $320,000 and it's worth about
$220,000 right now); and they can't get a home equity line of credit and they can't get
any kind of loan for it; so, taking out more money on a property where they are losing
$10,000/year is not going to happen
City of Saint Paul Page 6
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
- for him, the only solution is putting down class 5 gravel; he can afford to get about
20 tons from Shakopee Gravel; but the city can't approve that because he's already
called the Fire Marshal about it
- in most suburbs, class 5 gravel is approved
Ms. Moermond:
- that solution can happen in this room; we can talk about that
- she would like to know more about what Zoning would require for providing parking
on this lot; we have existing parking for a duplex and she thinks that 3 parking spaces
need to be provided for a duplex
- Mr. Soukhanov will need to go through a site plan review for the parking spaces;
apply with DSI
- that parking area needs to be dramatically diminished; ideally, she'd say 3 spots
- will recommend that he be allowed to use class 5 surface and that there be a
distinct separation between the parking area and the lawn area; can use curb stops
- need to go through site plan review for 3 parking spaces
- deadline for compliance of the parking area is Jul 15, 2014
- will Lay Over the railing matter for 3 weeks
Mr. St. Martin:
- added that the Appellant remain cognizant of the garbage /refuse issue; make sure
to have enough containers and that tenants pick up and use the containers
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/7/2014
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
5 RLH VBR 14-34 Appeal of Nam Nguyen to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at
1000 ALBEMARLE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant an extension until May 23, 2014 to get Fire Certificate of Occupancy
re-instated and hold Vacant Building fee for 30 days.
RE: 1000 Albemarle Street (Single Family)
Nam Hguyen, property manager, appeared.
Inspector Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings:
- Condemned by Fire Inspector Scott Perrier Apr 2, 2014
- Inspector Perrier documented a water shut-off and the dwelling was open to entry
- he transferred it to the Vacant Building Program due to the Condemnation
- Apr 3, 2014, Mr. Dornfeld went out and confirmed that the front door was open and
the garage service door was open; there were a few minor code violations, also: torn
screen, siding damage, front porch storm door was off its hinges, peeling paint on
wood trim, large pile of junk and tree brush in the back yard
- Apr 3, 2014, he issued a Summary Abatement to clean-up the yard and to secure
the house and garage
- Apr 10, 2014, he re-checked and found that neither had been completed; he issued
a Work Order to secure the house and garage and also to get the yard cleaned-up
- Apr 14, 2014, Parks completed the work
- what ever is left at the property, get rid of it; yard waste can go to the compost site
City of Saint Paul Page 7
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
- Mr. Dornfeld posted the Vacant Building placards
Mr. Hguyen:
- is a little confused
- Michael Mandanas is the owner; the water bill is under his mom's name; and when
the purchase went through, they weren't sure who was going to be the record owner
at that point
- he is the property manager, representing Tran Enterprises
- the house is already cleaned out and ready to go
Ms. Moermond:
- the property has a provisional Certificate of Occupancy (covers you until the first
Fire C of O inspection)
- the house will need a Fire Certificate of Occupancy inspection if you are going to
rent it
Mr. Hguyen:
- they are looking to rent the property as soon as possible
- he wants to pay all the fines up front and get the C of O inspection
- he's not sure why the garage door was open
- the latch for the front door wasn't lining up properly so he went over and lined it up,
got it locked and locked the front screen door, too; when he came back again, the
front screen door was popped open and the main entry door had marks on it
Mr. Dornfeld:
- that sounds like Restoration Professionals
Mr. Hguyen:
- he secured it before they got there because when he went there afterward, he went
to the back door and wasn't able to open it and wondered why, so he went around
the front and saw that there were 2 nails to the front of the screen door and 6 or 7
nails for the top and bottom of the main entry door; and part of the frame was busted
and laying inside; so, they might have gotten the Work Order and went ahead and
secured the door even though the door wasn't open to entry
Ms. Moermond:
- she doesn't think that ResPro would do that; that wouldn't be consistent with the
contract
Mr. Hguyen:
- he was sure that it was closed shut and locked before he left
Mr. Dornfeld:
- ResPro is a very large company; they charge only $ 11.95 to do that plus
administration fees but he's pretty certain that they wouldn't just screw people's doors
shut that were already locked and secured for $12
Mr. Hguyen:
- he understands that - but that screen door was locked from the inside and there's
no way to open it unless someone used a great amount of force to open it
- has been the property manager since Mr. Mandanas purchased it around Jun 2013
- he didn't know that the city would Condemn a house for a water shut-off; he talked
to the water company, who told him that he had to pay $160+ they wanted the water
to be turned on, too; he thought that the bill only needed to be paid
- at first he had renters signed up to go in Apr 1, 2014 but then they backed out and if
no one was in there, he didn't feel the need to get the water turned back on; he was
City of Saint Paul Page 8
Legislative Hearings Minutes - Final April 22, 2014
concerned about someone coming in and ruining the pipes, which in turn could ruin at
lot in the house
Ms. Moermond:
- explained that when the water is shut-off, the Water people call the city to report
that
- is trying to figure out what the best strategy is to get this house safe and habitable
again
- she would like to see it get its Fire C of O; application has been made
- if you can re-instated the Fire C of O in 1 month, then, it can be rented ($170 cost of
inspection)
- contact Supervisor Leanna Shaff, 651/266-8980 to set up an appointment
- if you can't get the C of O by May 23, 2014, you will be in the VB Program
- can get the Existing Fuel Burning Equipment Safety Test; hire a licensed contractor
who's licensed to do work in the City of Saint Paul
Mr. Dornfeld:
- will make this property a Category 1 VB so that the water can get turned back on
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/7/2014
City of Saint Paul Page 9
Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH OA Recommending that the Board of Ramsey County Commissioners deny
14-1 the application of Kerry Essler for repurchase of tax forfeited property at
663 LAFOND AVENUE. (Adopted April 2)
Sponsors: Thao
2 SR 14-36 Reviewing request of owner to have Council reconsider its Order to
Remove or Repair the Structures at 438-442 BEACON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
3 RLH SAO Appeal of Alfonso Gomez to a Summary Abatement Order and
14-8 Correction Notice at 1717 ENGLEWOOD AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
Correction Orders
4 RLH CO Appeal of Anton Soukhanov to a Correction Order at 1280 SEVENTH
14-2 STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thune
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
5 RLH VBR Appeal of Nam Nguyen to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1000
14-34 ALBEMARLE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
City of Saint Paul Page 1 Printed on 4/18/2014
Legislative Hearings Meeting Agenda - Final April 22, 2014
City of Saint Paul Page 2 Printed on 4/18/2014