Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · July 15, 2014
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR 14-13 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
1093 ARCADE STREET within one-hundred and eighty (180) days
after the August 20, 2014, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Laid over to August 12 for the following conditions to be met:
1. contact Ramsey County Property Tax Records and make sure address is current;
2. pay outstanding real estate taxes for 2012;
3. provide general and subcontractor bids;
4. provide a work plan, including timelines and must be done in accordance with the
Code Compliance Report;
5. post the $5,000 performance deposit;
6. provide financial documentation dedicating the funds (construction loan, a line of
credit or a bank statement) for the project;
7. if using bank statement, provide an affidavit letter committing the funds for the
project; and
8. maintain the property
RE: 1093 Arcade Street (Duplex)
Chi Nguyen and Tom Phung, White Oak Investment Group LLC, owner, appeared.
Mr. Phung:
Correct contact information:
- White Oak Investment Group LLC, 1098 Arcade St, St. Paul MN 55106-2602
(where his mom, Chi, lives)
- Thomas Phung, 1600 128th Lane NW, Coon Rapids, MN 55448
- he set up the LLC and wants mail sent to his address because his mom does not
speak English very well (Tom and his mom are White Oak Investment Group LLC)
- purchased this property Nov 11, 2011
Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
-The building is a one-story, wood frame, duplex, on a lot of 2,178 square feet.
According to our files, it has been a vacant building since June 30, 2010.
-The current property owner is White Oak Investment Group LLC per AMANDA and
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Ramsey County Property records.
-On April 16, 2014, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken.
An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on April 30, 2014 with a
compliance date of May 30, 2014. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $5,800 on the land and $24,200
on the building.
-Real estate taxes for 2012 are delinquent in the amount of $707.21, including
penalty and interest. Taxes for the first half of 2014 have been paid. (Property is
scheduled for tax forfeiture July 31, 2014.)
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by cash on June 16, 2014.
-A Code Compliance Inspection was done on May 17, 2011 and has since expired. A
new Code Compliance Inspection was applied for on June 30, 2014 but has not yet
been completed.
-As of July 14, 2014, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been eighteen (18) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2010.
-There have been nine (9) WORK ORDERS issued for:
- Garbage/rubbish
- Boarding/securing
- Tall grass/weeds
- Snow/ice
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$40,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $12,000.
DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders the
property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days; if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- built in 1889; 1 1/2 story vernacular workers cottage, by James W. Oye
- when it was built, this whole block face was one lot; there were 4 store fronts and
this house at the corner; there was an auto garage at the back
- since that time, lots have been divided
- last surveyed for historic purposes in 2011; before in 1983; it was not identified in
either survey has having any potential for historic significance
- new siding; window and door changes
- originally, it was built without a front porch; it had just a stoop; since then, the entry
porch has been expanded
- it does not have any potential for historic designation
- demolition would not have an adverse effect on the historic character of the area
- original permit index card says it's a 1 story; built as a black smith shop (commercial
use along Arcade)
Ms. Moermond:
- seeing that the 2012 taxes weren't paid; there's no statement about 2013 taxes; and
the first half of 2014 has been paid
- Mr. Magner is checking for a receipt for 2013
- this is a duplex on a tiny lot; so, probably, it could not be rehabbed as a duplex, only
as a single family
- it's scheduled to forfeit in a couple of weeks because of nonpayment of taxes
Ms. Nguyen:
- she paid off all the taxes; she owes nothing; she went to the Ramsey County Office
Mr. Magner:
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- system shows: 2 different numbers; 2 payments for 2012
- could be outstanding assessments
- he thinks that Ms. Nguyen and Mr. Phung need to contact Ramsey County Tax
Records to verify what's been paid
Ms. Moermond:
- Mai, have Katie call 266-2000 to find out exactly what the deal is on the tax situation
- noticed that the property has a lot of Orders on it since 2010 (they purchased in Nov
2011)
Mr. Magner:
- looking at their 2014 tax statement, the county still lists their address as 842
University Ave W
- you need to contact Ramsey County to change your address
Ms. Nguyen:
- she has put a lot of money into the house and she wants to finish it and sell it
- everything is done
Mr. Magner:
- a lot of the SA were back in 2010 and early 2011; have trailed off since then
- owners did rehab in 2011
- originally had a plumbing permit, warm air, mechanical, electrical and building in
2012; project was never finished
- that code compliance has expired; a new one has been applied for; Mr. Seeger
needs to inspect
- they need to post $5,000 performance deposit and get a grant of time
Mr. Phung:
- she had a lot of issues with contractors and needs more time
Ms. Moermond:
- in 2012, there's a tax balance of $707; 2013 taxes are paid; the first half of 2014 is
paid
- so, you need to pay the rest of 2012 taxes; change that address
- if you don't pay the $707, the county will take the house
- county has the University address as the contact address; you need to change that
so that they mail notices to the right address
Mr. Phung:
- this is the first that we are aware of the $707 not having been paid; will take care of
it right away
- they have a new contractor; old contractors didn't finish the work
Ms. Moermond:
- conditions on getting more time:
- change address at Ramsey County and paying rest of 2012 taxes
- check with the Attorney General's Office about those contractors who took your
money without finishing the work
- she needs to see bids from contractors
- permits need to be signed-off
- needs to see a Work Plan that shows timelines and deadlines
- submit the $5,000 Performance Deposit (refundable when project is completed on
time)
- need to see that you have money to finish the project (bank accounts; line of credit,
etc.)
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- need to continue to maintain the property
- will LAY this OVER to Aug 12, 2014 Legislative Hearing
- City Council Public Hearing Aug 20, 2014
- she will put in a call to expidite the Code Compliance Inspection Report ASAP
- will send a letter to confirm
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/12/2014
2 RLH RR 14-14 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 1438 EDMUND
AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the August 20, 2014, City
Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Stark
Remove the building by September 5, 2014.
RE: 1438 Edmund Avenue (Duplex)
Jerry L. Walczak, owner, appeared.
Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
-The building is a one-story, wood frame, single-family dwelling, with a detached
two-stall garage, on a lot of 4,792 square feet. According to our files, it has been a
vacant building since December 5, 2013.
-The current property owner is Jerry L. Walczak per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
-On March 13, 2014, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of
deficiencies which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs
were taken. An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on May 14,
2014 with a compliance date of June 13, 2014. As of this date, the property remains
in a condition which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $20,400 on the land and
$125,400 on the building.
-Real estate taxes for the first half of 2014 are current.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by check on January 13, 2014
-As of July 14, 2014, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been done.
-As of July 14, 2014, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been four (4) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2013.
-There has been one (1) WORK ORDER issued for tall grass & weeds (work was
done by owner).
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$150,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $15,000.
-DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders
the property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days; if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
- Note: have included 2 Fire Reports from 2 separate dates (Dec 2013 and Mar 1,
2014)
- the 2nd fire began at the knee wall of stairs
Mr. Walczak:
- it was a duplex, not a single family home
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- built in 1915 as a workers cottage with a bungalow look to it
- original owner was Jas Helm
- originally built with an open 1-story full front porch (has been enclosed)
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- index card for original building permit says it's a 1-story structure; she assumes it
was built as a 1 1/2 story
- some additions - front and others
- located in the middle of the block
- neighborhood was last surveyed in 1983; neither this property nor neighborhood
was identified as having potential historic significance
- not eligible for the national register
- the fire damage was fairly substantial
- demolition would not have an adverse effect
Mr. Walczak:
- next week, they will remove the asbestos; wait 10 days and then, within a couple
weeks, it'll be demoed
- they did an investigation on the 2nd fire; just got done with that and the checks were
mailed out Jul 1, 2014
- the main general contractor is his buddy; he doesn't know who the actual demo
contractor will be
Mr. Magner:
- Mr. Walczak needs to submit a copy of their signed demo contract to the city for the
record; and as long as they complete it by the time outlined in their contract, the city
won't do anything; if it goes past that time, the city would need to hire someone
- the city would prefer that his contractor do it
Mr. Magner:
- asked if he'd be making application for building at the same time as the demo or will
there be time between the two
- explained that he will need to finish the demolition, which will include backfilling the
site, add top soil and seed; the city can't allow an open hole to sit for any length of
time; it would be a nuisance and need to go through a city process
- if you can submit a building application at the same time as you apply for a demo
permit, then, the city can allow you to tear the house down, remove the foundation
and leave the hole without backfilling for no more than 30 days; and you'll need to
properly fence the site
- that and the contract for demolition could be sent to the hearing officer; she would
pass that back to him (DSI) and they would make a note of it in the file (if they get
complaints)
- the building permit first needs to go to plan review; they would send it over to zoning
to make sure it meets the intent of the zoning (R-4), single family
Mr. Walczak:
- he will find out about all that
Ms. Spong:
- there will also be infill design standards for the property; they are basic but you have
to have a certain percentage of windows on the front; the entrance way has to be
clearly defined; etc.
Mr. Walczak:
- he plans to build an up-and-down duplex (Ms. Moermond: you may need a variance
to build a duplex there)
Mr. Magner:
- you'll need to check with zoning on that; it's listed in our system as a duplex and
there's a time period as to a nonconforming use existing, which is generally 365 days
- it's his understanding that if a nonconforming use is re-established within 365 days,
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it would be allowable; i.e. the use ceased to exist at the time DSI opened the Vacant
BUilding file (Dec 15, 2013); so, from Dec 15, 2013 - Dec 15, 2014, if you pulled your
building permits, you could probably re-establish that non-conforming use; you need
to verify that with the Zoning Office)
- make sure the demo contractor has a wrecking license in the City of St. Paul; he
also needs to contact Ramsey County Environmental to make sure they do a
walk-thru (county requirement) and submit documentation about asbestos and
hazardous waste
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend the City Council order this building down within 15 days
- deadline Sep 5, 2014
- City Council Public Hearing: Aug 5, 2014
FYI: as of 8/8/14, no action on owner pulling demo permit on his own.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/20/2014
3 RLH RR 14-15 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 1164
MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the August
20, 2014, City Council Public Hearing. (To be referred back to
Legislative Hearing on September 16, 2014 and City Council Public
Hearing on September 17, 2014)
Sponsors: Stark
8/8/14: Duey Erlien called on behalf of Freddie Mac that they wished to have this
matter heard. Rescheduled to 8/12/14 LH.
No one appeared. Remove the building within 15 days with no option for repair.
RE: 1164 Minnehaha Avenue West (Single Family)
Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
-The building is a one-story, wood frame, single-family dwelling, with a detached
one-stall garage, on a lot of 4,792 square feet. According to our files, it has been a
vacant building since October 22, 2012.
-The current property owner is Tammy Martinez per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
-On May 2, 2014, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken.
An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on May 7, 2014 with a
compliance date of June 6, 2014. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $20,400 on the land and
$115,600 on the building.
-Real estate taxes are for the first half of 2014 are current.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by assessment on December 3,
2013.
-As of July 14, 2014, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been done. (Note: a
code compliance inspection fee was paid January 24, 2014; however, an inspection
was never done.)
-As of July 14, 2014, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been seven (7) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2012.
-There have been seven (7) WORK ORDERS issued for:
- Garbage/rubbish
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- Boarding/securing
- Tall grass/weeds
- Snow/ice
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$75,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $12,000.
-DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders
the property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days; if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
- could not gain access
- per Inspector's Essling's file: 2012 notes - phone call from property owner's
boyfriend; he said that owner had hired contractor to do exterior work; contractor
never finished work; he walked away; he didn't pull permits either; boyfriend said he's
working on the interior - walls and floors; he also stated that he has brought in a
roll-off and...... I will delay Condemnation until I check for permits; if permits are
pulled and exterior is in compliance, Condemnation will be lifted
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- house built in 1947; no Sanborn Insurance Map
- Hamline Midway neighborhood
- last neighborhood surveyed 1983; house was not old enough to be considered for
historic purposes
- some vinyl siding went up; newer windows and doors
- demolition would not have an adverse effect
- not eligible for individual or potential historic district
- has no interior photos
- looks like a newer escape window in the basement
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend the City Council order the building removed within 15 days with no
option for rehabilitation
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/12/2014
Repurchase Applications
4 RLH OA 14-10 Recommending that Ramsey County deny the application of Linda P.
Ji, Attorney for Rock of Ages Missionary Baptist Church, for
repurchase of tax forfeited property at 507 DALE STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Thao
Deny the repurchase.
RE: 507 Dale Street North (Church/Synagogue/Temple)
No one appeared.
Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- we are well versed in this property's history
- DSI has no specific issues with this; it boils down to resources
- the church, at the time, did not have the resources to maintain or repair the
nuisance/hazardous conditions at the site
- ultimately, DSI had to hire a contractor to remove the structure to provide safety to
that neighborhood
- if they now have the resources to purchase and maintain the property... that's fine
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- had tall grass and weeds in 2010; had snow walk in 2013; 2 more snow walks in
2014
Ms. Moermond:
- the basis of the application is that the city was in error by knocking down the
structure; and that knocking it down was a problem in any number of ways for the
church; and that the city didn't follow due process. This issue should/could have been
handled in district court after the Council ratified the assessment.
- there is time attached to the appeal of the tax assessment; it's pretty tight (not the
right venue)
- Rock of Ages allowed this building, during their ownership, to deteriorate through a
lack of maintenance to a point where it constituted a dangerous structure and needed
to be removed.
- because of that history of not maintaining the property, she will recommend the City
Council recommend to Ramsey County against repurchase
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
5 RLH OA 14-12 Recommending that Ramsey County deny the application of Coretta
B. Walker-Rinehart for repurchase of a tax forfeited duplex located at
1057 DAYTON AVENUE and 1059 DAYTON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Deny the repurchase.
RE: 1059 Dayton Avenue (Duplex)
No one appeared.
Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- some complaints: Certificate of Occupancy complaint in 2013; C of O complaint in
2009; garbage, rubbish complaint in 2008; garbage-rubbish in 2007; mattress 2007;
not a huge amount of history but some previous things
- Mr. Walker is familiar with most of the staff; he owned a number of properties and
there have been conversations with him
Ms. Moermond:
- she's looking at an extensive history: shoveling, mowing, vehicle issues
- will recommend against the repurchase of this property
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
6 RLH OA 14-11 Recommending that Ramsey County approve the application of Curtis
W. Baker for repurchase of tax forfeited property at 660 JESSAMINE
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Approve the repurchase.
RE: 660 Jessamine Avenue East (Single Family)
No one appeared.
Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- not a lot of complaints on the record
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- water shut-off in 2012; tree issue in 2006
- has prior permit activity
Ms. Moermond:
- she called for police calls and there were none
- the guy is out of work
- if he can come to a deal with the county ...
- he's been maintaining the property
- she will recommend approving the repurchase
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
7 RLH OA 14-9 Recommending that Ramsey County deny the application of Kyle Erin
Christensen for repurchase of tax forfeited property at 1219 ROSS
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Deny the repurchase.
RE: 1219 Ross Avenue (Single Family)
Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- based on complaints received, there's been quite a bit of activity here: many tall
grass and weeds; Summary Abatements; Shut-offs; snow walks; vehicles; etc. in
recent history
- city was out there a lot since 2006-2007
- photo shows a lot
- in this situation, he would recommend denial of the repurchase
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend denial of the repurchase
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
8 RLH SAO 14-24 Appeal of Clifton Boyd Jr. to a Summary Abatement Order at 649
SMITH AVENUE SOUTH.
Sponsors: Thune
Deny appeal and grant until August 8, 2014 for compliance.
RE: 649 Smith Avenue South (Miscellaneous-H-Utility & Other)
Clifton Boyd, Jr., owner, appeared.
Inspector John Peter Ross:
- this property is directly south across the street from the Capital View Cafe
- received a complaint Jun 16, 2014 that read: parking lot turned into storage area,
including large barrels of an unknown liquid
- Mr. Ross went out Jul 2, 2014 for re-inspection; has photos where you can see
conduit being stored on some pallets; he talked with the owner and that material was
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used for the light rail project; several large blue barrels holding commercial ice milk;
owner talked about this storage being somewhat temporary in nature for the light rail
project and offered some alternatives regarding screening the fencing, etc. Mr. Ross
said that he needed to do a little research on the zoning of the property to find out
what exactly what was allowed
- in consultation with both Licensing and Zoning, he found that this property is in a B2
zoning district and outdoor storage of materials is not allowed; B2 zoning district was
established on a community business district generally to allow for vehicular and
pedestrian traffic .... goes on to say.."storage, servicing, or processing shall be
conducted within completely enclosed buildings;" so, with that information, he sent a
Summary Abatement Order, dated Jul 3, 2014 with a compliance date of Jul 14,
2014: Remove outside storage of metal conduit, plastic conduit, scrap wood and
pallets, plastic tubs of unknown liquid - possibly deicer. He also quoted Code 66.441
- "All business, storage, servicing or processing shall be conducted within completely
enclosed buildings."
- according to Zoning, relief might be sought by rezoning to Industrial (not sure how
likely that is)
- in the appeal, the owner states: "Storing of normal supplies used in my daily
electrical supply business. I must have the ability for outside storage to be
competitive in my industry. I'm willing to fully enclose the outside yard, including
privacy fencing, as well." (more permanent, rather than temporary)
- photos
- he could consider a storage shed
Mr. Boyd:
- the previous owner, Donnie's Drywall, used the entire lot to store trucks and
everything else for a number of years; he acquired that building with the assumption
that he would be able to do the same; he was unaware until the inspector told him it
was in a B2 Zoning District
- they are an electrical supply company; currently, they are working on the 3 largest
projects they have had in their history, one of the reasons that they need some type
of outside storage (ballparks, light rail, etc.)
- if they are not allowed to have outdoor storage, it puts them in a position to be
non-competitive because they wouldn't be allowed to order directly from
manufacturing every day when they need them without absorbing a lot of overhead
- he was hoping that the hearing officer would consider allowing them to put up a
6-foot fence with privacy screening, as well as a gate, so that it won't be "an eye
sore" to the neighborhood because they are the only supply company on that whole
block
- currently, they are working with the Saint Paul Port Authority to find a larger facility
but have not yet been able to identify one within their price range; so, their plans are
to move to a larger facility
- they are looking for some type of temporary solution (variance, exception) so that
they can continue to operate on a daily basis
- took the liberty to look into the time it would take to enclose the property and a
company said that they could have it done within 2 weeks
Ms. Moermond:
- for her, there's no question; this is not an appropriate use of the land; it's a B2 zone
and outside storage is an industrial use, which is not allowable at this location
- the Summary Abatement Order is appropriate
- Mr. Boyd's economic concerns can't be a part of what she looks at; she is looking
strictly at the land use issues
- will recommend denying this appeal and grant until Aug 8, 2014 for compliance
- City Council Public Hearing Jul 23, 2014
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/23/2014
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Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
9 RLH VO 14-25 Appeal of Gerald Kaluzny, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal
Services, on behalf of James Frye to a Notice of Condemnation-Unfit
for Human Habitation-Order to Vacate at 1755 GRACE LANE.
Sponsors: Lantry
Grant until August 12, 2014 for compliance.
RE: 1755 Grace Lane (Single Family)
Gerald Kaluzny, Attorney, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services (SMRLS)
and James Frye, Occupant, appeared.
Mr. Kaluzny:
- we have a signed Cash for Keys agreement from Freddie Mac; they are paying
$3500 for these folks to vacate by Aug 12, 2014
- is asking the city to allow them to stay there until that time
Ms. Moermond:
- she heard back from the inspector who went out the day of their last LH and he said
that there were still beds present; the beds were turned up against the walls; there
were still personal belongings of those folks; so, it looked like it was continuing to be
operating as a boarding house
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- speaking with Inspector Niemeyer this morning, he told her that he has been told
that since that inspection, it has been noticed by others that there are only 2 people
living at the house and it has quieted down tremendously
- there are no complaints
Mr. Kaluzny:
- they were aware that the inspector would find beds there because the people that
left didn't take anything with them; they were basically, squatters
- we knew that was going to happen when we left here that day
Mr. Frye:
- the people who had been in the front bedroom left a mattress, box spring; misc
articles but no clothes
- in each bedroom in the basement, just about everything was left by the people:
various clothes, mattresses
- all of that is gone from the rooms
- he is storing the mattresses in the basement in one area; there's mold all over them;
he's stacking them and is waiting to go out the back door to the garbage area for the
city to come and pick them up
- he called the city to pick up that stuff
- he had to put the electric bill in his name or they would have shut the power off; he
had to pay back to May when the owner took his name off the bill ($700+)
- he has been doing his best to clean things up; he took a VIDEO this morning
- 2 rooms are not empty-vacated: his room and Ron's room
- no one else is living at the house
Mr. Kaluzny:
- under this contract, they will be under the obligation to remove everything; they will
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have to return the house completely clean; if they don't, they will lose $3500 - it's
quite an incentive to get it all done
Ms. Moermond:
- is willing to look at the date Mr. Kaluzny put out there; she needs some conditions to
ensure that we have a property that remains non-problematic for it's neighbors
- no more than the 2 occupants; girlfriends may come over
- wants the house broom clean
- wants Mr. Frye to take out those mattresses, etc.as a condition of continuing to live
there. the city should not have to be responsible for cleaning up his mess.
- if the city ends up taking out those things, there will be a substantial charge
- will recommend a vacate date of Aug 12, 2014
- City Council Public Hearing Aug 6, 2014
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
10 RLH VO 14-23 Appeal of Trudie and Stephen Ellsworth to a Revocation of Fire
Certificate of Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 788 CHARLES
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Owner in compliance.
Withdrawn
11 RLH VO 14-26 Appeal of Andy Hybben to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of
Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 37 WYOMING STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
Laid over for owner to provide a work plan with timelines.
RE: 37 Wyoming Street East (Duplex)
Andy Hybben, 37 Wyoming LLC, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy Revocation and Order to Vacate issued by Inspector
Sean Westenhofer on Jun 16, 2014
- issue: Mr. Hybben nor his representative show up for appointments and we're not
getting compliance
- has been going on since Feb 2014; no show for appointments and no messages left
asking for re-schedules
- we have curling shingles; need parking area paving; need a lot of exterior work
done; still need access to much of the interior; basically, a lot of deferred
maintenance
- 2 units
Mr. Hybben:
- apologizes for not making appointments
- he proposes to put on a new roof and pave the parking area
- he needs time to get that done
- this house will be sold eventually
Ms. Shaff:
- Mr. Hybben owns a lot of properties and this is an issue with all of them
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Mr. Hybben:
- yes, lately, it has been; he apologizes
- has 6 of his properties up for sale right now
- he plans to have all his properties sold within 2 years; he wants to retire
- his sons don't seem to follow through like he expects them to; he needs to push
them more
- he can give Mr. Westenhofer more access; the lady who lives there is a very private
person and she's tough but he knows that he has the authority to go in there and
inspect
Ms. Shaff:
- explained that Mr. Westenhofer was going on vacation starting tomorrow and won't
be back at work until next Thu, Jul 24
Mr. Hybben:
- you send me a letter and I will respond to confirm
- problem: someone tapped into his email in Jun and locked it up so that he could not
get in; someone found his password and went in and changed his password; it has
been fixed since then and he checks email everyday
- his son Brian showed up for an inspection in Mar
- he knows the things that need to be done; sometimes, in the past, he thought that
Brian was taking care of things but he didn't so, he can see that he needs to follow up
on Brian; he will take care of things
- you have my word; until I get these sold, it is my sole responsibility
- he can't rely on Brian
Ms. Shaff:
- call Mr. Westenhofer today; he's in the office: 266-8982
Ms. Moermond:
- will give you 2 weeks to get the inspection done
- will LAY this OVER to Jul 29, 2014 to give Mr. Hybben time to put together a Work
Plan
- within the next 2 weeks: get the inspection; allow Mr. Westenhofer access; put
together a Work Plan
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/29/2014
12 RLH FCO 14-92 Appeal of Tiffany Olmo to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
(Condemnation) at 681 YORK AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Owner in compliance.
Withdrawn
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
13 RLH FCO 14-96 Appeal of Faye Sparks to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 374
CHEROKEE AVENUE.
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Sponsors: Thune
Property owner informed front desk that this be rescheduled to July 22.
No one appeared. Deny the appeal.
RE: 374 Cherokee Avenue (Single Family)
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy inspection process
- chimney issue: any fire burning equipment needs to be properly vented; it needs to
be safe to have a fire in there
- Inspector Westenhofer wrote the appropriate Order because this house hadn't been
inspected since 2008 and we don't have anything that tells us that the fireplace is
safe
Ms. Moermond:
- wondering if this is a case where welding the flue would be of any assistance
Ms. Shaff:
- it depends upon the venting
- the average person doesn't have any idea of how a fire place works or that they
should even open a flue; they build their little fire and all of a sudden, there's a house
full of smoke
- she has seen where other owners have literally put a screen to it so you can't build
a fire; also insulated the chimney so that there's not so much heat loss
- chimney fires are just awful; all should be inspected
Ms. Moermond:
- wants to put on the record that Ms. Sparks appears to be filing not only as a private
individual but she also uses her contact address at the state capitol; there's no
private contact information, which is troubling; she also uses her status as an
employee at the State Senate as a part of her appeal, which isn't acceptable in her
view
- will recommend denial of the appeal on the chimney, lacking any additional
argument
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/22/2014
14 RLH FCO 14-95 Appeal of Floyd Johnson to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 503
FOREST STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
Grant an extension until September 12, 2014 for the window in Unit 1, northeast room
to come into compliance by 1) discontinuing use of the room as a sleeping room; 2)
open up the entire porch windows; or, 3) put in a new window leading to the outside.
RE: 503 Forest Street (Duplex)
Floyd Johnson, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy inspection conducted Jun 19, 2014 by Fire Inspector
George Niemeyer
- Unit #1 - the NE bedroom egress exits into an enclosed porch; it must go directly to
the outside
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- originally, it was not an enclosed porch
- this has not been written up in the past
- Inspector Spiering inspected in 2011
Mr. Johnson:
- he always has passed inspections and doesn't understand why not this time
- entered and explained his photos
Ms. Moermond:
- the problem is that you need to have 2 ways to get out of the room and one of those
exits needs to go directly outside; in this case, you have to pass through the porch
before you can get to the outside
- past inspectors should not have allowed this
- Mr. Johnson has 3 options: 1) stop using the room as a sleeping room; 2) remove
all the windows and the door from the porch; or 3) cut a window into the bedroom wall
- easiest solution: open up the porch
- will recommend granting an extension to Sep 12, 2014 for compliance
- CIty Council Public Hearing Aug 6, 2014
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
15 RLH VBR 14-53 Appeal of Nurul Amin to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal
Notice at 290 HARRISON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
Waive the Vacant Building fee for 3 months (90 days).
RE: 290 Harrison Avenue (Single Family)
Nurul Amin, owner, appeared.
Inspector Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings:
- house was Condemned Jul 2, 2013 by Code Inspector Ed Smith
- we have a water shut-off and numerous exterior code violations: rotted siding;
soffit, eaves and fascia damage; broken windows; torn screens; garage is in
dilapidated condition; misc
- Mr. Smith transferred the file to the Vacant Building Program
- on Jul 11, 2013, Mr. Dornfeld opened up a Category 2 VB
- there was securing during that time frame; boarding the garage, porch, some doors
- Mr. Amin went through the city's Sale Review process and was approved to
purchase the property Mar 18, 2014
- a Code Compliance Inspection Report is on file
- as of today, he has not seen any trade permits that have been issued
- property has been maintained since Mr. Amin has taken over
- we are here today to address the VB fee that is 3 days past due
Ms. Moermond:
- looks as though Mr. Amin has bids to get the rehab work done
Mr. Amin:
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- first of all, they collected bids and got a contractor, who delayed the work for 3
months and then, he backed out
- he found another contractor and work is in progress
- he plans to complete the work in 2-3 months
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend waiving the VB fee for 3 months so that Mr. Amin can pull permits; if
he goes longer than 3 months, he will get another VB bill
- 3 months should give Mr. Amin enough time to get the permits pulled and finaled;
then, he won't have any bill at all
- can begin to pull permits at 9 am tomorrow
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
16 RLH VBR 14-54 Appeal of Daniel Diaz to a Vacant Building Registration and Correction
Orders at 14 SYCAMORE STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thao
Grant an extension until September 10, 2014 to finish the items on the list provided
that all life safety issues are addressed and that the house is in compliance when
Inspector Dornfeld makes a walk-thru inspection. The driveway issue is granted until
August 1, 2015 for owner to put in more Class 5 and have defined boundaries
between the grass and gravel.
RE: 14 Sycamore Street West (Single Family)
Daniel Diaz, son of owner, Angela G. Hernandez, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- it checked out that this house is owner-occupied and that it would not be in the Fire
C of O Program anymore
- Mr. Dornfeld would be following up on the Orders
Ms. Moermond:
- one of her concerns was that Mr. Diaz understood the list of things that needed to
be done
Mr. Diaz:
- they are working on the deficiency list right now and it won't take very long
- he is here to disagree on the driveway
Ms. Shaff:
- the driveway is in very bad shape; the asphalt is very deteriorated and is overgrown
Mr. Diaz:
- there has never been asphalt there since his mom moved in 21 years ago
- the house is approximately 90 years old, was built in 1925; if there ever was asphalt
there, it was 50-60 years ago
- right now, the driveway is dirt
Ms. Moermond:
- the driveway needs to be fixed
Mr. Diaz:
- well, there's no way we can do it; we don't have money and if we can't get if fixed,
then DeLisle is going to take the property back from his mother because he'll say that
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he'll fix it and then his mom loses the property because she can't afford to pave the
driveway
- he doesn't understand why this is happening now, almost 90 years later; he doesn't
think that's fair to his mother or to his father because he's not here to stick up for her;
if he were still here, he'd be doing all the talking but he's not here
- his family doesn't have the money to do something like that
Ms. Moermond:
- and, we don't want Mr. DeLisle to take back the house
- Ms. Shaff, Mr. Dornfeld and Mr. Diaz gathered around Ms. Moermond to take a look
at the photos
- the driveway is just really compacted down and there's nothing holding it in place;
and there's no clean line - just a spread out parking area
- asked if his family could put down Class 5
Mr. Diaz:
- he is not working right now; his brothers are working but they make only $10/hour
- is wondering if his mom can move back into the house
- all the things Ms. Shaff had talked about - the life-safety issues have been taken
care
- if Mr. Dornfeld could come over and inspect today, he'd be surprised at the change
- they took care of the cover plates, smoke detectors, CO alarm, back step, etc.
Ms. Moermond:
- we can give you an extension on the driveway until we are over the hump on this
Mr. Dornfeld:
- would be glad to follow-up on these Orders (deadline Sep 10)
Mr. Diaz:
- he talked to an attorney about ownership/title and the attorney said that if Mr.
DeLisle doesn't switch the contract over after the house is paid off, then Mr. Diaz
should contact him; there's nothing that they can do right now
Ms. Moermond:
- wants to see a cleanly defined line between the driveway and the yard areas; can
use different kinds of things to define the line or can just make sure that grass is
planted right up to the driveway
- rake out the driveway
- Class 5 is a particular size of gravel
- Mr. Dornfeld will go to find out if all the life-safety issues have been addressed and
then Mr. Diaz mother can move back in again
- Sep 10, 2014 deadline for the rest of the Orders except for the driveway, which will
have a deadline of Aug 1, 2015 for Class 5 gravel
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/6/2014
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 15, 2014 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
14-13 1093 ARCADE STREET within fifteen (15) days after the August 20,
2014, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Bostrom
2 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
14-14 1438 EDMUND AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the August 20,
2014, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Stark
3 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
14-15 1164 MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the
August 20, 2014, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Stark
Repurchase Applications
4 RLH OA Making recommendation to Ramsey County on the application of Linda
14-10 P. Ji, Attorney for Rock of Ages Missionary Baptist Church, for
repurchase of tax forfeited property at 507 DALE STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Thao
5 RLH OA Making recommendation to Ramsey County on the application of
14-12 Coretta B. Walker-Rinehart for repurchase of a tax forfeited duplex
located at 1057 Dayton Avenue and 1059 Dayton Avenue.
Sponsors: Thao
6 RLH OA Making recommendation to Ramsey County on the application of Curtis
14-11 W. Baker for repurchase of tax forfeited property at 660 JESSAMINE
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
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7 RLH OA Making recommendation to Ramsey County on the application of Kyle
14-9 Erin Christensen for repurchase of tax forfeited property at 1219 ROSS
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
8 RLH SAO Appeal of Clifton Boyd Jr. to a Summary Abatement Order at 649
14-24 SMITH AVENUE SOUTH.
Sponsors: Thune
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
9 RLH VO Appeal of Gerald Kaluzny, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal
14-25 Services, on behalf of James Frye to a Notice of Condemnation-Unfit for
Human Habitation-Order to Vacate at 1755 GRACE LANE.
Sponsors: Lantry
10 RLH VO Appeal of Trudie and Stephen Ellsworth to a Revocation of Fire
14-23 Certificate of Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 788 CHARLES
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
11 RLH VO Appeal of Andy Hybben to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of Occupancy
14-26 and Order to Vacate at 37 WYOMING STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
12 RLH FCO Appeal of Tiffany Olmo to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
14-92 (Condemnation) at 681 YORK AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
13 RLH FCO Appeal of Faye Sparks to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 374
14-96 CHEROKEE AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
14 RLH FCO Appeal of Floyd Johnson to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 503
14-95 FOREST STREET.
Sponsors: Lantry
2:30 p.m. Hearings
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Vacant Building Registrations
15 RLH VBR Appeal of Nurul Amin to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal Notice
14-53 at 290 HARRISON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
16 RLH VBR Appeal of Daniel Diaz to a Vacant Building Registration and Correction
14-54 Orders at 14 SYCAMORE STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thao
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