Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · September 2, 2014
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:30 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
1 RLH VO 14-43 Appeal of Marvin Hanks II to a Notice of Condemnation Unfit for
Human Habitation Order to Vacate at 1282 MINNEHAHA AVENUE
WEST.
Sponsors: Stark
Grant until September 17, 2014 for compliance or the building must be vacated by
September 19, 2014.
RE: 1282 Minnehaha Avenue West (Single Family)
Marvin E. Hanks II, Occupant, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy Condemnation / Order to Vacate
- inspection Aug 28, 2014 conducted by Ms. Shaff
- started out Mar 1, 2013; it came to their attention via Case Managed Property Units
(file opened)
- "SPPD executed a search warrant at the property on Dec 20, 2012 resulting in the
homeowner being cited for operating a disorderly house. SPPD also recovered drug
paraphernalia, scales, pipes and 3 long guns
- owner of record is Marvin E. Hanks
- City Attorney, Ms. Skarda, issued multiple letters to Mr. Hanks to come into
compliance with the abatement program; at that time they believed it to be owner
occupied; Marvin E. Hanks II is here today, the Appellant; those letters went
unanswered and in the interim there have been numerous neighborhood complaints;
there have been other police calls
- couple months ago: they confirmed that the Appellant's father had passed away,
so, the property became part of the Fire C of O Program; she scheduled an
appointment and went to inspect at the end of Jul 2014; Mr. Hanks II was very
reluctant to let her in; however, he did allow her to enter along with SPPD Officer
Charles Graupmann
- inspected house and found missing smoke detectors, CO alarms, open wiring,
bathroom upstairs has open walls; she wrote quite a few Orders and talked to
Appellant about those Orders
- went back the next day because the smoke detector that was there was an older
type that was missing a cover and battery; unfortunately, the smoke detector was not
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replaced
- since then, there had been more police calls and an arrest of someone with an
active warrant
- more complaints - one about people climbing the outside wall of house
- because she was unable to reach Appellant, she stopped by about 1 1/2 weeks
before the last inspection; Appellant had lost or misplaced his phone; we went over
what absolutely had to be done
- in the meantime, Appellant had realtor come by
- Appellant is not in a financial position to do the work that it would take to repair the
house; and because it hasn't yet gone thru probate, he is not the homeowner
- went out Aug 28, 2014; his friend, Ms. Wells, was there and said that the Appellant
hadn't come home the night before; he did, however, ask her to help him out; they
went to the 2nd floor, especially looking for CO alarms, smoke detectors, etc; much
to her dismay, Appellant had not done anything and they found him sleeping in his
room with a hasp type lock from the inside; Mr. Hanks came out and they talked; she
told him that she was immediately Condemning the property and that he should
appeal the Condemnation
- life safety issues: open wiring, plumbing not functioning properly; lots of deferred
maintenance; she still doesn't know if the CO alarm is there but Mr. Hanks says he
has a new combination smoke detector/CO alarm; 2 add-on roofs on entries that are
sagging; retaining wall on west side of house is going to come loose one of these
days; doesn't believe that the taxes on the house have been paid this year; roof;
holes-missing sheet rock
- Mr. Hanks II plans to get his name on the deed, then fix up the house a bit and put it
on the market
- if it were owner-occupied, would estimate repairs between $25,000-$50,000
Mr. Hanks II:
- has contacted a probate attorney (pro bono); at first, he didn't know what he was
supposed to do
- wants the Condemnation to be lifted until he gets the house in his name
- he's had contractors look at it and they ask why the house is being Condemned;
there are a lot worse houses on that same block
- he thinks it's because of the police but they didn't find what they thought they were
going to find; he thinks that it's just because he has a lot of young friends - people of
color - that come and go; it's getting to the point, that they can't even stand outside
and the neighbors will call the cops right away; when the police come, they are
always very cordial; they say, "I don't hear anything; I don't see anything; why are we
being called." It sounds as though the police are getting tired of the calls, tired of
coming out there, pretty much wasting their time
- the house is on the corner - kind of on display
- father died 1 1/2 years ago in Feb; he had Parkinson's for 10 year; he was taking
care of his father until he died; that was his every day job - to make sure that he was
OK; he didn't even know that he could get paid for caring for him - Comfort Care - he
didn't have time or money to take care of the upkeep of the house; he didn't have a
job; doesn't have a job now
- the house condition hasn't changed much since he died
- he knows an outside investor who wants to put $20,000-$30,000 into the house to
put it on the market; he wants to do that quickly but probate court is holding them
back and he's already talked to a realtor about that
- while he's still living there, they plan to put on new siding and fix the bathrooms
- has dumpster coming today to take out junk, etc.
- wants to make sure all contractors are licensed and bonded in St. Paul
- he plans to stay there until the house is sold to a 3rd party; a couple of friends are
staying there temporarily and not paying too much rent
- he has trash service from Aspen
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Ms. Shaff:
- has concerns about the locks on the inside of sleeping rooms, too
- code enforcement Orders: for trash and trash service and police calls
- the Appellant needs short timelines; if he's not under the gun, nothing gets done
- he has replaced the smoke detectors and gotten trash service
- if this would become Mr. Hanks II property, she would suggest that the Fire C of O
file remain open unless it becomes a Registered Vacant Building
Ms. Moermond:
- asked about the plumbing system
Ms. Shaff:
- it smelled musty downstairs and there was a lot of laundry; Appellant said that when
he runs the washer, everything backs up in the bathroom
- doesn't think there's a venting issue
Mr. Hanks II:
- that problem is fixed - doesn't back up any more; fixed it with a snake
- all the laundry is gone, the carpet is gone and it's been painted
- the couch outside will be gone in the dumpster
- he is the only child, so probate won't take too long; needs to submit some
paperwork
- Ms. Shaff is helping him get things straightened out; he is grateful
Ms. Moermond:
- not hearing that things are going to change in the near future; hearing that things
will change after probate/ownership switch happens, which is uncertain
- told Mr. Hanks II that he will need to look for different housing
- if he can get things addressed so that Ms. Shaff can walk away from this in 2
weeks, he can remain living there; if he can't, he will need to be out by the following
Fri (Sep 17, everything needs to be done or the house needs to be vacated by Sep
19, 2014)
- Sep 17 is City Council Public Hearing day; Appellant may attend to talk with them
about this; she thinks that Council needs to here his case
- will get a letter after this hearing
- she fears that nothing will get done but is hopeful that Appellant and his friends can
pool their resources in order to hire and electrician, fix walls, etc.
- Appellant will still be going thru probate and sell the house but he can't be living
there unless he can get the C of O
- there were a lot of police calls
Mr. Hanks II:
- explained that the "disorderly house thing" was thrown our
- there are no criminal charges
- he was not hiding anyone with a warrant
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend granting until September 17, 2014 for compliance or the building
must be vacated by September 19, 2014
- Ms. Shaff will modify the placard
Referred to the City Council due back on 9/17/2014
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:30 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
1 RLH VO Appeal of Marvin Hanks II to a Notice of Condemnation Unfit for Human
14-43 Habitation Order to Vacate at 1282 MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST.
Sponsors: Stark
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