Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · April 28, 2015
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR 14-15 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 1164
MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the August
20, 2014, City Council Public Hearing. (Public hearing continued from
February 18) (To be amended to grant 180 days for rehab or removal)
Sponsors: Stark
Alex Stojmenovic, realtor and general contractor, appeared.
Elton Mykerezi, Arc Realty and Green Housing, owner, appeared.
Mr. Mykerezi:
- purchased property from Freddie Mac Feb 24, 2015
Mr. Stojmenovic:
- Mr Mykerezi has bought a lot of Category 2 Vacant Buildings
- when he attempted to pull a permit, he ended up talking with Reid Soley, who
informed him that they needed to attend this hearing but he didn't go into detail as far
as problems with this property; he took pictures and to him, it didn't look like a house
that was in horrible shape
- Mr. Mykerezi has bought 11 properties in the area and most of them were Cat 2 VB;
one is across the street at 11 23 Minnehaha, duplex, Cat 2 VB; they converted it back
to single family
Ms. Moermond:
- background: Jul 2014, this property was subject to demolition and discussed at City
Council; then, the property went to HUD; HUD is immune to city and state
regulations; so, they don't have to fix the property no matter how many Orders the
city issues; and they don't have to disclose to a purchaser the circumstances of the
property, and Orders, pending assessments, etc; so, i'ts 'Buyer Beware'
- the city is aware that this happened and is trying to be sympathetic; at the same
time, they are trying to get the nuisance condition abated
- we are not going to debate whether this is a Cat 3 VB subject to demolition; that's
been going on for the past 9 months; this building is subject to demolition
- she wants to work on conditions under which the city would not need to demolish it;
hopefully, something can be figured out
- wants them to hear Inspector Steve Magner's report
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Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- as of Tue Jul 15, 2014:
-The building is a one-story, wood frame, single-family dwelling, with a detached
two-stall garage, on a lot of 4,792 square feet. According to our files, it has been a
vacant building since October 22, 2012.
-The current property owner is Tammy Martinez per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
-On May 2, 2014, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken.
An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on May 7, 2014 with a
compliance date of June 6, 2014. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $20,400 on the land and
$115,600 on the building.
-Real estate taxes for the first half of 2014 are current.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by assessment on December 3,
2013.
-As of July 14, 2014, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been done. (Note: a
code compliance inspection fee was paid January 24, 2014; however, an inspection
was never done.)
-As of July 14, 2014, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been seven (7) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2012.
-There have been seven (7) WORK ORDERS issued for:
- Garbage/rubbish
- Boarding/securing
- Tall grass/weeds
- Snow/ice
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$75,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $12,000.
- on that day of the hearing, no one showed up; Aug 12, 2014 LH, the realtor for
Freddie Mac appeared; Ms. Moermond indicated that she would lay this over for a
code compliant inspection to be performed; the performance deposit paid; work plan;
was going to CC Aug 20, 2014 with a lay over to Sep 16, 2014
Ms. Moermond:
- her notes indicated that 3 CDC's had been contacted on this, as well as Green
Homes of MN
Mr. Mykerezi:
- he was not contacted last year in Aug about this property by Mr. Duey Erlien
Mr. Magner:
- a letter was sent Aug 13, 2014 that went to Mr. Erlien, HighPointe Realty on behalf
of Freddie Mac that laid out the conditions for the next LH, which was to be
conducted Sep 16, 2014, at which time, Mr. Erlien appeared and said that they would
maintain the property and rehabilitate the structure for the mortgage company or
Freddie Mac at that time; his estimate came in at $45,000; that was laid over to Oct
14, 2014 LH, at which time, no one showed; it was laid over
- fast forward..... we were apprised that the property was purchased by Corridor
Properties LLC
- he read the letter that was sent to Mr. Elton Mykerezi Mar 26, 2015 for an Order to
Repair or Remove the Structure (attached); that letter listed conditions to be met
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- house built in 1947; vernacular cottage style; no Sanborn Insurance Map
- Hamline Midway neighborhood; no current survey of the neighborhood
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- last neighborhood surveyed 1983; house was not old enough to be considered for
historic purposes
- last photos she has are from 2013 showing some vinyl siding and newer vinyl
windows and doors
- has no interior photos
- looks like a newer escape window in the basement
- the house lacks integrity to be considered for historic preservation
- demolition would not have an adverse effect
Ms. Moermond:
- asked Mr. Mykerezi what they have been able to pull together
Mr. Mykerezi:
- their usual process is to buy the houses, which usually are Cat 2 VB; Alex submits
the Work Plan that is checked by Mr. Soley or another inspector; then, they usually
do construction financing a few days after they are bought, either through
Bridgewater Bank or Platinum Bank, small banks that are very experienced in
commercial construction lending
- not actually knowing the situation, they have closed on a construction loan with
Bridgewater Bank (they send their own inspector to make sure that the Work Plan is
reasonable; they also send an appraiser to estimate the value of the property after
the work is finished; then, they determine how much they can lend)
- he entered the Work Plan and the loan documents ($45,000)
- he also has proof of additional funds, if needed
Mr. Magner:
- a performance deposit has been posted (Mar 18, 2015)
- code compliance inspection report was applied for Aug 27, 2014; so, if they get a
grant of time from CC, they are free to pull permits and get moving on the project
- $45,000 is probably very close to where it needs to be (DSI has no concern)
A short recess was taken to allow Ms. Moermond and Mr. Magner time to review the
bids and other documents. (scanned)
Mr. Magner:
- the only history of problems is prior to their ownership
Mr. Stojmenovic:
- needs approximately 4 months to complete the project
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend a grant of 180 days
- should be able to pull permits tomorrow (Steve Magner)
- City Council Public Hearing May 20, 2015
Remove or repair the building within 180 days.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
2 RLH RR 14-12 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 391 VIEW
STREET within fifteen (15) days after the July 23, 2014, City Council
Public Hearing. (Public hearing continued from February 4) (To be
referred back to Legislative Hearing on May 26, 2015; Council public
hearing to be continued to June 3, 2015)
Sponsors: Thune
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A meeting is set up to discuss the matter.
Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
- has not spoken with Betty Moran about this recently; it is his understanding that
parties were seeking to see some recourse through some action the city could take -
originally, the question was whether the city attorney could shorten the forfeiture to
the State of Minnesota through a state law that allows a municipality to take that
action against the property owner
- we have a scenario where the house is listed to Joseph G. Schwartz and to
Deutsche Bank; DSI has notified Deutsche Bank but have not received a response;
he believes that Joseph G. Schwartz is deceased and the family members, although
local, don't seem to have the capacity to take any action, even probate; so, we are
back to the total abandonment situation
- we had a discussion at the last LH about speaking with council and asking Ms.
Skarda to start that action
- one option we have is to lay this over for a short period
Ms. Moermond:
- this is on City Council Public Hearing May 20, 2015
- let's set up a meeting with Ms. Skarda for next week to talk about this property and
other properties in this same situation
- will lay this over to the May 12, 2015 Legislative Hearing
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 5/12/2015
3 RLH RR 15-11 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 614 CALIFORNIA
AVENUE EAST within fifteen (15) days after the May 20, 2015, City
Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Bostrom
(No one appeared.)
Inspector Steve Magner, Vacant Buildings:
The building is a one-story, wood frame and brick/stucco facade, single-family
dwelling with a detached one-stall garage on a lot of 7,405 square feet. According to
our files, it has been a vacant building since April 23, 2012.
The current property owner is Robert R. Douglas per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
On February 4, 2015, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of
deficiencies which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs
were taken. An ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on
February 17, 2015 with a compliance date of March 19, 2015. As of this date, the
property remains in a condition which comprises a nuisance as defined by the
legislative code.
Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $16,700 on the land and $33,300
on the building.
Real estate taxes are current.
The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by assessment on August 4, 2014.
As of April 27, 2015, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been requested or
performed.
As of April 27, 2015, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
There have been six (6) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2012.
There have been six (6) WORK ORDERS issued for:
- Boarding/securing
- Tall grass/weeds
- EFV
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Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$40,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $12,000.
DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders the
property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days; if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
Amy Spong, Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC):
- build in 1927; original owner was C. A. Bodly
- Prairie Bungalow style; charming architecturally; unique details for being so small;
low sloping hip roof; large, deep eaves; the brick band around the entire base of the
house; bands of windows; it also has a brick window box with detail
- the 1-stall garage was added in 1935
- new windows
- looks pretty much in tact
- the neighborhood includes some infill housing right next door and across the street
from different eras
- it was within the boundaries of the 2011 survey project in this neighborhood but was
not identified as a potential historic structure nor was it in any identified historic
district that were identified as having potential for district designation
- even though it's an architecturally charming little house, it doesn't rise to the level to
meet the criteria
- encourages rehab but demolition would not have an adverse effect
Ms. Moermond:
- no information leading the city to believe that this is a foreclosure at this time
- will recommend removal within 15 days
Remove the building within 15 days with no option for rehabilitation.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Correction Orders
4 RLH CO 15-6 Appeal of Tamika and Edgar Tate to a Correction Notice at 345
MAPLE STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
Tamika and Edgar Tate, tax owners, appeared.
Inspector John Peter Ross:
- a complaint came in regarding a retaining wall; it's condition and structural integrity
- Inspector Hoffman went out and took photos
- sent Correction Notice to repair or replace the retaining wall; it needs a plan to
review and a permit to do the work
- completion date: Jun 26, 2015
- photo on the screen; you can see that the retaining wall abutts the neighbor's
driveway; about midway down the driveway, you can see the bulge in the wall
- Inspector Hoffman contacted a DSI engineer, Brian Karpen, regarding the wall; Mr.
Karpen provided a report (attached)
- Mr. Karpen's findings: 1) the top of the wall has deflected considerably - 6";
Although the wall is still standing and retaining the soil behind it, this excessive
deflection could already be termed a failure of the wall; 2) at the interface between
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the limestone and CMU, there is a projection of approximately 2 inches along a
horizontal line in the wall, which indicates a shear failure of the joint between the
limestone and CMU courses added above; and 3) the original limestone portion of the
wall shows significant deterioration.
- he includes a number of repair options and photos that show some things the
neighbors have done
Inspector James Hoffman:
- Structural Engineer Brian Karpen met him at the property and evaluated it; he wrote
a recommendation on his report
- the initial complaint was a referral from Fire Inspection; the property at one time was
a C of O property
Mr. Tate:
- they live at this property
- has been trying to get contractors and engineers out to take a look but they are
booked solid and so they decided to appeal to buy some time
- when he got the report, initially, he understood that the wall needed to be replaced;
to him, it looks like a good wall; so, he is a little confused as to what options he has;
what he is required to do to come into compliance
- has a call into Planning & Economic Dev to inquire about financial assistance
- they don't know what to do and where to start
- some contractors said that missing caps could be a problem; also the trees; etc.
- has had quotes from $2,000 - $20,000
- they purchased the house Contract for Deed a couple years ago on a 15-yr plan;
are from Indiana and weren't aware of these types of problems
- after they got the Notice, they looked at the history of Notices and found that back in
2007, there was a complaint on the same thing on the same part of the wall; they did
not find anything that came out of it
- they want to make the wall safe with no damage to their neighbor's
Ms. Moermond:
- thinks that there should have been a disclosure to the Tates that this was a
pre-existing condition
Mr. Ross:
- a TISH inspection done May 2013
- John Kauck is the owner
Mr. Tate:
- some of the repairs done to the wall were just not done correctly; done tacky; loose
blocks; shoddy work
- Mr. Kauck never said anything about damage to the property
Ms. Moermond:
- community resources: a community development corporation may be able to help;
some groups may have deferred loans or low interest loans but she is not sure what's
available to Contract for Deed purchasers
Mr. Tate:
- he spoke with Dayton's Bluff Community Resource Neighborhood Group about a
deferred loan program which they would not qualify for because of their income; they
also have a low interest loan - 4%
Mr. Hoffman:
- anchor plates were put in by the neighbor to shore up his retaining wall (photo);
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engineers core drill a hole and insert something that tightens up and pulls against
itself
Mr. Tate:
- the wall goes all around the house
- even the engineers said that it will be difficult to do because of the location of the
wall
Ms. Moermond:
- collapse is coming, we just don't know when
- it can be repaired
- Dayton's Bluff Neighborhood Housing Services, 823 7th St East: 651/774-6995;
Executive Dir: Jim Erchul
- Eastside Neighborhood Development Company, 965 Payne Ave, Suite 200:
651/771-1152: Ex. Dir: John Vaughn
- they do homeowner-type assistance
- need to figure out how much it's going to cost: 1) to stabilize the wall; or 2) to
replace the wall; we are all about stabilization, financially
- it's great you made it through the winter
Mr. Hoffman:
- the repair is needed at the highest point of the wall; if it falls, it could, potentially, hit
the neighbor's house
Ms. Moermond:
- wants to grant some time to do the repair but if the wall collapses, all bets are off;
then, everything has to be removed quickly
- thinks we can get through the summer
- the first thing is to get an engineer to write up what is needed to be done and the
cost; something that a contractor could use or a landscaper to do the repairs; should
be able to get funding for both those things; then, get finances arranged: loan, grant
- we're just talking about "repair"
- let's go with Sep 1, 2015 to work on getting this going; if there are problems, like a
collapse, we will need to handle it immediately; if it goes down and you don't get it
cleaned up right away, the city will issue an Emergency Abatement Order, which
means that if you don't have it cleaned, a city crew will come in pretty quickly to clean
out the neighbor's driveway because it would be a nuisance condition; and you would
need to pay the cost for that; it would be far cheaper to do it yourself
Mr. Tate:
- asked if the the city had an ordinance that said they must have a retaining wall that
high right there
Ms. Moermond:
- no; it just needs to be serviceable and stable
Mr. Hoffman:
- based on what DSI's engineer said and based on how close that is to the house,
15-20 feet away, if you start dropping the wall down, you're actually going to be
eating into the depth of your foundation, which could cause other problems
Mr. Tate:
- some said that the tree roots might be causing the problem; he's talked with a tree
removal service
- now, we have better information and move forward more specifically
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Ms. Moermond:
Grant until September 1, 2015 to come into compliance with the retaining wall.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO 15-17 Appeal of StarShamia Cindrich to a Summary Abatement Order and
Vehicle Abatement Order at 873 WOODBRIDGE STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
Inspector Joel Essling met with the occupant/appellant and found that the exterior is
now in compliance except for one vehicle that has missing glass. The vehicle was
vandalized so he gave appellant 30 day extension to get glass installed. Appeal is
moot and a hearing was not necessary.
Withdrawn
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
6 RLH VO 15-20 Appeal of Nancy Phillips to a Fire Certificate of Occupancy Revocation
and Order to Vacate at 1117 WHITE BEAR AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Deny the appeal; no one appeared.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
7 RLH FCO 15-62 Appeal of Bonnie Shoebottom to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at
1551 GRANTHAM STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
Bonnie Shoebottom and her brother, Glenn Griffen, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Attempted Fire Certificate of Occupancy Inspection - Correction Notice
- inspection conducted by Jeremy Hall on Apr 21, 2015; asking for access to conduct
the C of O inspection
- appeal is asking to be out of the program
Ms. Shoebottom:
- her family has owned it for 85 years
- her father died in Aug 2012; her parents had been living there along with her
nephew, Glenn's son, who was in and out of college and jobs
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- when her father died, her mother would have nothing to do with "assisted living;"
that house was built by her parents for her before she was born; she refused to move
and refused to admit that she needed to move until she started to fall more often
- they thought they had her talked into an assisted living arrangement, at least for the
winter; but she pulled a Power of Attorney
- after she came back from spending time with a son in Maryland around Christmas,
she insisted that she was going to stay in the house
- the boiler died and they replaced it; the Power of Attorney was not yet in effect
- she stayed until she fell down the basement stairs and broke her leg; she went into
TCU; they didn't keep her in the hospital; she broke one of the bones in her lower leg;
when she healed from that, there was an opening in the Assisted Living Facility as
that complex, so, she moved in there under protest; but she couldn't go home
because she couldn't take care of herself; and, as she was getting used to living in
the assisted living facility, she fell in her apartment and broke her arm
- they finally got her to agree to selling the house
- they've been trying to clean things out of the house
- family is living there
Glenn:
- his oldest son as been living in the house since 2006, helping out the grandparents;
and his daughter moved in at the end of Mar 2015
- he is trying to work on his own house that he has lived in for the past 52 years, only
3 blocks from 1551 Grantham St
- they have gotten rid of approximately 80% of the newspaper, junk, etc. that have in
there 50+ years
- they have a lot more to do; most of the furniture is gone
- there a lot of deferred maintenance: wiring, plumbing, ceilings, floors, etc.
- the grandkids will continue to be in the house until it's sold
Ms. Shoebottom:
- they need to sell the house in order to support her in assisted living facility; she has
less than $50,000 in the bank, total; she has their dad's pension and Social Security;
her income does not meet her current expenses
- they have a realtor involved in the selling of the house
- they are aware that it would pretty much be an "as is"
- they are trying to get it sold by the end of the year
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend that this be out of the Certificate of Occupancy Program
- if the grandkids move out, we will revisit this; Michael Griffen and Rachel Griffen live
there
- as long as they are there, she will treat it as an owner-occupied property
Grant the appeal for owner to be out of the Fire Certificate of Occupancy Program.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
8 RLH FCO 15-54 Appeal of Tony Hoong to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 407
LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Tony Hoong appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy Inspection conducted Apr 7, 2015 by Fire Inspector
Grant Heitman
- 9 items on deficiency list
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- Appellant is asking for more time
- re-inspection date is May 19, 2015
Mr. Hoong:
- he needs more time; is has finals up until May 14, 2015; graduates May 18; then, he
has a trip planned to Aruba for about 1 weeks
- their tenant is moving out Jun 1, 2015
- he is hoping to be finished with the house by Aug 1, 2015
- the house needs some upgrades and he's doing most of it by himself
Ms. Moermond:
- if tenants are out by Jun 1, she can grant an extension to Aug 1, 2015 because the
house will be empty
- we don't need to do a referral to Vacant Buildings
Grant until August 1, 2015 for compliance provided tenant is out by June 1, 2015.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
9 RLH FCO 15-52 Appeal of Alana Sasaki to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1701
MARGARET STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
Alana Sasaki, owner, appeared; Roger Strodtman also appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
- Fire Certificate of Occupancy Inspection conducted Apr 1, 2015 by Fire Inspector
Jonathan Gaulke
- 8 deficiencies
- appealing #1- provide an approved guard rail
- and #4- ceiling height measured 79 inches at the highest point (6'7"); code requires
7 ft high over half the floor area
Ms. Sasaki:
- #1- long, gradual stairs, 3 of them; since they are very gradual and have been that
way for 46 years; and many of the neighbors in that area have a similar stairs, is it
possible not to have to hire someone to put in a guardrail
Mr. Strodtman:
- provide photos on his cell phone (Ms. Moermond asked for them to be emailed to
her)
Ms. Shaff:
- that would not require a guardrail if the stairs were redone; then, they'd be looking at
handrails (more than 3 steps)
- it's existing so, they will WITHDRAW that Order
Ms. Moermond:
- photo shows a set of stairs with a very low incline; the neighbors' stairs had a
steeper incline; there is a pre-existing condition that there was no handrail or
guardrail; because it's a pre-existing condition, the Order with Withdrawn by Fire
Safety and Inspections
- done; that Order is WITHDRAWN (#1)
- re: Ceiling height
Ms. Sasaki:
- a 1940's house; at the peak of the ceiling, it measured 79 inches; has carpeting; it
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was very close so the inspector told them to appeal
Ms. Shaff:
- photos on her computer - after the rehab
- doesn't think that it's original on the upper level - this type of closet structure
- it's a beautiful home; great remodeling
Ms. Sasaki:
- the CIty of Saint Paul remodeled it
- she doesn't think that they changed the ceiling
- typically, those areas were not constructed to be sleeping areas
Ms. Moermond:
- has a problem with the ceiling height; you won't have half of the floor area at least at
6'7"
- wondering if there's a signed-off permit; she wants to explore that
- will talk to the building official about this
Ms. Sasaki:
- thinks they called it a 2-bedroom home with a bonus when she purchased it; not a
3-bedroom
- they rented it out as a 2-bedroom
Ms. Moermond:
- will look into this; will get back to you
Item #1 is withdrawn by the dept; forthcoming on the upper level ceiling height issue.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
10 RLH FCO 15-58 Appeal of Robert Thayer and Nancy Meade-Thayer to a Fire
Inspection Correction Notice at 2298 PRISCILLA STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
Robert Thayer and Nancy Meade-Thayer appeared.
Mr. Thayer submitted some photos (attached herein)
Leanna Shaff:
-a Fire C of O inspection conducted by Inspector Lisa Martin on April 7, 2015. There
are 2 deficiencies left in this notice
-the exterior parking area, parking in the alley has been surfaced with wood chips
-this is a not an approved parking surface, as well as durable or dustless
Ms. Moermond:
-asking why they're appealing
Mr. Thayer:
-the dryer vent has been repaired
-don't know if inspector went back to look at it
-Standard Heating did the work and pulled the permit out
-regarding the parking area, photos were given to you, 5 of those showing our
parking area, the next 3 show how much pavements there is around them
-learned in the Capital Region Watershed District, 42% of surfaces are impermeable
-this was a shock to me and I have no idea
-that means that to our environment that prudence the land in our parking pads and
run down the alley into the street and contribute to flooding downstream
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-believe strongly that using a surface like the woodchips allow the rain water to soak
in instead of problem somewhere else
-every surface needs maintenance and if they were to put in permeable pavers,
concrete, it would have to vacuum every year
-asphalt needs to be maintained
-with woodchips, when it breaks down they bring in a new load and spread them
-they never had any complaints from the neighbors because they take care of their
property
-they understand our interpretation of dustfree does not include wood chips but they
don't see dust flying
-it meets the intent of the ordinance
Ms. Thayer:
-they are very good landlords, had done friendly improvements to their property,
installed high efficiency furnaces
-has very nice garden using the woodchips
-they are Class A building
-putting asphalt down goes against everything they believe in
-from the pictures, they had Capital Regions go to the property and to put in
permeable pavers wouldn't work in this location because a slope towards the alley
and they said it won't work here
-they have been trying to get a system that would meet the durable part
Ms. Moermond:
-she suggested two thoughts: not going to accept woodchips as a parking surface but
she thinks that one thing hasn't been explored is that instead of paving or dealing
with the entire surface, she likes the old car lines, like those old houses with
driveways that has lines for a cement path for each tires
-that would work and that would be a permeable surface in between the lawn or
woodchips
-that would keep it open and not a hard surface for the vast majority of the area
-she really appreciates the environmental concerns but have never seen woodchips
as parking surface
-whether it should or shouldn't, it would be a policy discussion down the line
-suggested that they talk to site plan review and they should go with a light paver
solution for where the tires need to go
-they would need 8 strips for the parking
Ms. Shaff:
-she drove by the property, it looks like the house to the west has the same thing
-the garage with the plywood over the windows, part of the parking area is that theirs
-the woodchips goes right up to the neighbor's garage
-Zoning will be talking to them about parking too close to the neighbor's
Mr. Thayer:
-that area is theirs
-permeable pavers across this whole area will be too costly, about $33,000.
Ms. Shaff:
-and Standard Heating's permit has not been finaled yet.
-should have dryer vent inspected since it's done
Ms. Moermond:
-grant until October 1, 2015 for the tire lines
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
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11 RLH FCO 15-56 Appeal of Jim Hansen to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1692
RACE STREET.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Grant the appeal for owner to be out of the Fire C of O Program. No hearing was
necessary.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
12 RLH VBR 15-29 Appeal of Paul Johnson to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 419
FRY STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
Paul Johnson, owner, appeared.
Inspector Rich Singerhouse:
- has been in the Vacant Building Program since Mar 24, 2009
- sale review was approved Nov 13, 2014
- code compliance inspection done Oct 30, 2014
- no permits as of yet
- Inspector Matt Dornfeld has spoken with Mr. Johnson on the phone; Mr. Johnson
hopes to have the sign-off by mid-summer
- the building has been maintained; no problems
- Vacant Building fee was due Mar 24, 2015
Mr. Johnson:
- he purchased the house in Nov 2014
- goal: completely renovated by mid-summer
- the heating contractor is pulling out the old stuff and putting in new furnace/central
air
- will be pulling permits for electrical and plumbing; heating permit will be pulled today
- he had an earlier goal but was in a car accident while on a bike and it took a few
months to heal
- he took some before and after pictures (entered)
- has done a lot of exterior work; nonpermitted work - removal of trees/bushes;
painted
Ms. Moermond:
- have it done by Aug 1, 2015 and she will waive the VB; if not done, there will be a
VB fee and a lot less likely that it will be prorated
- you will be allowed to pull permits; Mr. Singerhouse will put that into your file
Waive the VB fee until August 1, 2015.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
13 RLH VBR 15-30 Appeal of Todd Dexheimer, Chief Manager, S & D Real Estate
Solutions, LLC, to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal Notice at
905 THIRD STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Finney
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Todd Dexheimer, Chief Manager, S & D Real Estate Solutions LLC, appeared.
Inspector Rich Singerhouse, Vacant Buildings:
- has been a Vacant Building since May 5, 2014
- sale review approved Feb 9, 2015 to S & D Real Estate
- code compliance on file - done Nov 13, 2014
- permits open: plumbing, electrical, building
- no issues at the property
- the VB fee was due May 5, 2015
Ms. Moermond:
- sounds like you're working hard on it
- how long before you're done
Mr. Dexheimer:
- will be done Aug 1, 2015 - solid; we don't mess around
- all permits have been pulled
- have had rough-in inspections for plumbing & electrical signed off
- mechanical doesn't need any permits
- has the Orsatt Test
- on to the final stages of building; drywall starts this Wed
Ms. Moermond:
- will recommend that this VB fee is waived for 90 days
- if it will take longer than 90 days, you will get a bill; if you don't pay the bill, it will go
to assessment and that can be appealed, at which time, we can talk about prorating it
Waive the VB fee for 90 days.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
14 RLH VBR 15-27 Appeal of Jamie Thelen, St. Paul Old Home Plaza, LLC, to a Vacant
Building Registration Renewal Notice at 370 UNIVERSITY AVENUE
WEST. (To be referred back to Legislative Hearing on October 20,
2015; Council public hearing to be continued to October 21, 2015)
Sponsors: Thao
Jamie Thelen, St. Paul Old Home Plaza, LLC, appeared.
Mr. Thelen:
- we only got involved less than 2 years ago
- it's an historic renovation
- he was here last year; we are still on that same schedule
- last year, we completed the demo on 3 other buildings on site; during the summer of
last year, they removed all the asbestos inside the historic building; they pulled the
final permit on the building to start the actual re-construction in Oct 2014, as
scheduled; it's about a 12-month construction project inside the building; we are also
doing an addition on the back of the building' we've been active at the building ever
since; our goal for completion was fall 2015 and we will be done in Oct
Ms. Moermond:
- a lot of consideration has been given for this project; she has a lot of other VB
where the fees are being paid in full and they are working on those, too; the program
isn't meant to cut a break over the course of 5 years; this is the cost of the VB
Program over all the VB in the city
- looking at this and thinking that there's been a lot of forgiveness on these fees
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Mr. Thelen:
- an historic renovation takes a long time
- we had an amendment; there were some changes to the plan; that needed to be
approved
- they sat idle for work inside the building for about 75 days waiting for approvals at
the state and federal offices that they just got this morning; it takes that much time
- they have been involved only since 2012; before it was owned by someone else
- it's almost a $20M project
- building inspectors for reconstruction are out there all the time; we paid those fees
- we will continue to maintain the building and complete the renovation
Mr. Singerhouse:
- Inspector Matt Dornfeld's notes: property has been maintained; there's been no
problems; permits are open; workers are on site daily
- it's been in the VB Program since Apr 23, 2012
- LHO cut the 2014-2015 VB fee in half
- on Apr 23, 2015, the 2015-2016 fee is due
Ms. Moermond:
- this is due at City Council Public Hearing May 20, 2015; she will recommend that
they send this matter back to LH in 6 months, Oct 20,2015, when you'll be finishing
the project; it will go to CCPH right away the next day, Oct 21, 2015
- reasoning: the real estate folks have to have the tax assessments certified so they
can be sent over to the county to show up on your 2016 tax bill
- will send you a letter confirming
- if at that time, you are done or very, very close, she will cut the VB fee in half; if not
done, she will sort it out
To be referred back to Legislative Hearing on October 20, 2015 and City Council
Public Hearing on October 21, 2015.
Referred to the City Council due back on 5/20/2015
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 1164 MINNEHAHA
14-15 AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the August 20, 2014, City
Council Public Hearing. (Public hearing continued from August 20,
September 17 and December 3, 2014) (To be referred back to
Legislative Hearing on April 28, 2015 and City Council Public Hearing on
May 20, 2015)
Sponsors: Stark
2 RLH RR Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 391 VIEW STREET
14-12 within fifteen (15) days after the July 23, 2014, City Council Public
Hearing. (Public hearing continued from January 7)
Sponsors: Thune
3 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 614
15-11 CALIFORNIA AVENUE EAST within fifteen (15) days after the May 20,
2015, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Bostrom
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Correction Orders
4 RLH CO Appeal of Tamika and Edgar Tate to a Correction Notice at 345 MAPLE
15-6 STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO Appeal of StarShamia Cindrich to a Summary Abatement Order and
15-17 Vehicle Abatement Order at 873 WOODBRIDGE STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
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11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
6 RLH VO Appeal of Nancy Phillips to a Fire Certificate of Occupancy Revocation
15-20 and Order to Vacate at 1117 WHITE BEAR AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
7 RLH FCO Appeal of Bonnie Shoebottom to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at
15-62 1551 GRANTHAM STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
8 RLH FCO Appeal of Tony Hoong to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 407
15-54 LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
9 RLH FCO Appeal of Alana Sasaki to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1701
15-52 MARGARET STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
10 RLH FCO Appeal of Robert Thayer and Nancy Meade-Thayer to a Fire Inspection
15-58 Correction Notice at 2298 PRISCILLA STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
11 RLH FCO Appeal of Jim Hansen to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1692
15-56 RACE STREET.
Sponsors: Tolbert
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
12 RLH VBR Appeal of Paul Johnson to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 419
15-29 FRY STREET.
Sponsors: Stark
13 RLH VBR Appeal of Todd Dexheimer, Chief Manager, S & D Real Estate
15-30 Solutions, LLC, to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal Notice at 905
THIRD STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Finney
14 RLH VBR Appeal of Jamie Thelen, St. Paul Old Home Plaza, LLC, to a Vacant
15-27 Building Registration Renewal Notice at 370 UNIVERSITY AVENUE
WEST.
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Sponsors: Thao
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