Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · July 7, 2015
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 7, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA 15-349 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1506E, Assessment No. 158308, at 1217 ALBEMARLE
STREET
Sponsors: Brendmoen
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
2 RLH TA 15-323 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1509, Assessment No. 158816 at 400 BATES
AVENUE. (To be laid over to September 15 Legislative Hearing and
October 7 Public Hearing) (Amended to File No. VB1509A,
Assessment No. 158829)
Sponsors: Finney
Gary Rosenbaum, owner, and Jane Prince, Attorney, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly, Vacant Buildings:
-Mr. Seeger said that he was out there recently and apparently, Mr. Rosenbaum is
very close
-our position is that we are not worried so much about the fee; just want to get
everything signed-off
Ms. Moermond:
-is of the same mind
-building permit is finaled
-list is from Jul 2014 - what was left to do at that point
Mr. Yannarelly:
-the VB file was opened Feb 21, 2007; so, we are looking like 4-5 months into this
year
-Mr. Magner talked with Mr. Seeger; apparently, there's just a very short list; he like to
have him finish off the list; and we'll deal with the VB fee as leniently as possible; so,
he can put that money into the rehab
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Mr. Rosenbaum:
-he's doesn't know when he'll finish; he's not allowed to be on a ladder for a while and
he doesn't have a car; he has the paint to do one side; he can scrape the lower part
but he can't go up and do the rest until he's healthy enough to do it; at the rate that
his health is progressing, he'd say that it'd be next spring when he could be totally
finished because everything is slower with him at the moment
Ms. Moermond:
-asked it's sought any assistance; there are some programs designed for people with
lower incomes to help with situations like this
Mr. Rosenbaum:
-he has not sought assistance; he's been overwhelmed with many things
-he makes $400 a month; he has the materials to finish that one paint job; he can
probably get a friend to come and help this summer
-he doesn't have disposable money to buy batteries or anything
-$400 a month doesn't cover his bills; he is trying to work with Social Security - it's
difficult for him
-he's not going to ask friends to give him money
Ms. Moermond:
-there's a short list of things that needs to be done before this place can be legally
occupied
-this was originally in LH in 2008; and again in 2009 when you had long lists; and
now, you're almost there
Ms. Prince:
-she's a neighbor and Mr. Rosenbaum's legal representative
-she will work with Gary on completing this list in a timely way; there are a number of
neighbors who are very invested in this property because it's a community asset
Mr. Rosenbaum:
-Jim Seeger came out last summer, not recently
Ms. Moermond:
-understands that Mr. Seeger was trying to contact him so he could take a look
-you need to talk to Mr. Seeger - get him out there
Mr. Rosenbaum:
-he's been fighting with Sprint and his phone went dead; so, he has another number
-he can do all the things this summer except for replacing the roof covering and he
doesn't have money to do that - the shingles need to be replaced; they are curled and
damaged
-he's in a class action suit with the Attorney General over the defective shingles that
were put on in 2004 and that's in progress
-he can't get up on the roof anyway
Ms. Moermond:
-that's why you need some help to do that; it needs to be done this year
-there are a lot of options without the law suit; Ms. Prince is ready to help you find
those alternative ways to handle this, along with the roofing
-in not happy about his being in the house
-you need to be in a code compliant house as quickly as possible
-let's get everything done quickly
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Mr. Rosenbaum:
-he has nowhere to live
-he has no source of income; he can't work; nothing is coming through with Social
Security
Ms. Moermond:
-knows that a House Calls Social Worker has been in contact with Mr. Rosenbaum
Ms. Prince:
-will arrange an appointment with Jim Seeger to go through the list; and come up with
a plan
Mr. Rosenbaum:
-this house is better than 95% of the houses on the East Side as far as being code
compliant; everything is brand new in it
Mr. Yannarelly:
-maybe the roof could be dealt with at a later date; don't need to get the roof replaced
right now in order to get a Code Compliance Certificate
Ms. Moermond:
-is willing to look at a further reduction than half of the VB fee because of his
circumstances (having fallen off the ladder and having money concerns, etc.)
-let me know what kind of plans develop
-Ms. Prince can give you sound advice about housing, in general
-will Lay this Over to Sep 16, 2015 LH at 9 am
To be laid over to September 16 Legislative Hearing and October 7 Public Hearing.
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/15/2015
3 RLH TA 15-354 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 530 CHARLES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
7/9/15: Owner called and stated he misunderstood the public hearing and wants to
reschedule. Rescheduled to July 21.
7/7/15: No show; approve the assessment.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
4 RLH TA 15-344 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1510G, Assessment No. 158411 at 581 COOK AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Delete the assessment; property owner had service and called inspector; message
was not received because inspector was on vacation. (No hearing necessary.)
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
5 RLH TA 15-355 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 751 COOK AVENUE EAST.
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Sponsors: Bostrom
Delete the assessment.
Ka Houa Moua Vang, owner, appeared. Mai Vang interpreted.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Apr 22; compliance Apr 26
-pre-aurhorized work order for a cost of $288 + $160 = $448
-sent to Ka Houa Moua Vang and Tou Yeng H. Vang at 1876 Mechanic Ave, St. Paul
and Occupant
-no returned mail
-garbage, rubbish on side of garage
-photo
Mr. Vang:
-he cleaned up the front and sides of the garage (talking about the Mar 10 SA
instead)
-he did not received the Apr 22 Summary Abatement Notice; wasn't aware of this
issue
VIDEO - city cleaned up
Ms. Moermond:
-that's not the same as what's shown in this photo; this was cleaned up by the time
the crew got there
-will recommend deletion
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
6 RLH TA 15-350 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 1164 COOK
AVENUE EAST. (Public Hearing to be continued to September 2,
2015)
Sponsors: Bostrom
Craig Gelderman, owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-Vacant Building file opened Mar 27, 2012; changed to a Category 2 VB in Sep 2014
-no code compliance inspection report
-no permits
-just the annual VB fee of $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
-2 complaints on the property; no Work Orders
Mr. Gelderman:
-he acquired the property from his mother's estate in 2014; she had been in a nursing
home for several years; so, there was no work done on the house
-2012, Inspector James Thomas came out and listed 7 deficiencies, which were
pretty superficial; they have all been taken care of
-he has asked Mr. Thomas to come back out to inspect the house; he sent him the
documentation for a Fire Certificate of Occupancy application
-has the smoke detector affidavit; existing fuel burning equipment safety test report
-he painted the walls and replaced the bottom step support
-thinks all is done; waiting for Mr. Thomas' response
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-sell or rent
-it's a small house and has been in the family since 1920's
-thinking about keeping it; has one daughter a senior in college; and one that just
recently graduated
Ms. Moermond:
-sounds like you're really close to being finished with the repairs
-simplicity/cost wise, she would prefer that he get his Certificate of Occupancy
-gave him Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff's phone number; she is supervisor for the
eastern half of the city; call her and schedule a Certificate of Occupancy inspection
per my direction
-if all is done within the next 6 weeks, we will delete the VB fee
-City Council Public Hearing is scheduled Aug 19; at that time, she will ask them to
Lay this Over for 2 weeks (Sep 2)
Mr. Yannarelly:
-will change this to a Cat 1 VB
Ms. Moermond:
Owner to schedule a Fire C of O inspection and if he gets his Fire C of O re-instated
by September 2, the assessment will be deleted. PH to be laid over to Sept 2, 2015.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
7 RLH TA 15-351 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 25 ELIZABETH
STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
Jonathan Gutierrez Rivera, owner, appeared.
Ms. Moermond:
-she had asked for some follow-up; we held the VB fee for 90 days
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-there is code compliant inspection report as of Jun 16, 2015
-Vacant Building fee: $1440 + $155 = $1595
Mr. Rivera:
-they didn't allow him to pull permits
-is here today to understand where we are at
-he got the report and is ready to pull permits
Ms. Moermond:
-in Jan 2015, you appealed the Registered VB; you appealed that and she waived the
VB fee for 90 days while you were to finish the project
-in the meantime, you got the code compliance inspection but didn't pull permits or
start the work
-you've been in the VB Program since Jan 13, 2015
Mr. Rivera:
-will be done with the work before the permits expire (6 months)
Ms. Moermond:
-you've been in the VB Program for more than half a year and we already did a
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waiver
-will recommend approval of this VB fee assessment and if you want to appeal
further, go to the City Council meeting in Aug and tell them where you are at
Mr. Rivera:
-last time, when I was here, you mentioned that you were going to do something in
the taxes; that's why I'm here
Ms. Moermond:
-we can do a payment plan; it would divide this assessment over 5 years on the
property taxes; you would be billed 1/5 of the amount for the 2016 property tax year
Mr. Rivera:
-when I was here last time, after those 90 days, you said that I could pull permits right
away but when I went to DSI, it was a totally different story; we went back and forth;
finally, they said that I needed the code compliance inspection report - so, I'm I good
now to pull that permit or not?
-that other guy from the city (Dornfeld) said that I was good to go to pull permits
Mr. Yannarelly:
-found a note from Mr. Dornfeld in May, Inspector Dornfeld said, "Legislative Hearing
on May 12; Denied Appeal fees to go to assessment; Allow permits to be pulled"
Ms. Vang:
-Mr. Rivera came twice: once in Feb and then in May
Ms. Moermond:
-he said you could pull permits but someone at the DSI desk, somehow didn't get that
message
Ms. Vang:
-the first VB fee he appealed, Ms. Moermond recommended a 90-day waiver and
allowed permits to be pulled
-the second one, you denied the appeal but allowed permits to be pulled
Mr. Yannarelly:
-the VB folder has a notation about Jan 14 allowing permits but nothing following it;
so, someone didn't make that notation in there
Ms. Moermond:
-so, you are ready to pull permits now
Mr. Rivera:
-that's what I want to clarify
Mr. Yannarelly:
-you should be able to pull permits now because your VB fee has been assessed
Ms. Moermond:
-go pull permits; let's see how far you can get by the time this is up for public hearing;
if you can get some of this done, I'm much more likely to look at decreasing it; if it's
not until the end of the year, she will have a hard time decreasing it
-Mr. Yannarelly will have this all straightened out so that you will be able to pull
permits today
Mr. Yannarelly:
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-he will email Mr. Soley now for him to put in a note in the file that permits are allowed
to be pulled because the VB fee is being assessed
Ms. Moermond:
-if the front desk isn't giving you permits, you tell them to contact Mr. Reid Soley
Approve the assessment and spread the payments over 5 years.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
8 RLH TA 15-356 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 967 FREMONT
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Yongyong Zhang, owner, and a friend, Quoc, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Apr 7; compliance Apr 13; re-checked Apr 13
-work done Apr 15 for a cost of $412 + $160 service charge = $572
-no returned mail
-sent to Yongyong Zhang and Shichun Han, 810 Niagara Ln N, Plymouth, MN; and
Occupant
-remove overflowing garbage container in rear yard
-photo on screen
Mr. Zhang:
-a rental house
-he didn't get a Notice about the clean-up; he just the letter to come here
VIDEO - city emptied Waste Management container, rubbish on the ground, tire,
table, etc.
Ms. Moermond:
-staff said they mailed this Notice to you at Niagara Ln and they didn't get the mail
back again; the city met their requirement
Mr. Zhang:
-he has not problem paying; he just didn't know what this was about
Inspector John Peter Ross:
-the tires, insulation, cabinet, duct work, etc, were added by the time the crew came
out
Ms. Seeley:
-general garbage fee: $260; general refuse fee: $112; Auto tires: $40; + code enf.
fee
Ms. Moermond:
-she hears all the time that people didn't get the Notice
-the Orders were written specifically for overflowing garbage container in rear yard;
the Order wasn't written for tires or furniture, etc; those were added later, which
means that you weren't given notification that those things, as well, needed to be
dealt with
-she will delete those fees off the bill
-reduced fee from $572 to $420
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-you need to go by this property more frequently
-there's a problem with garbage/trash pick-up; make sure that there's a pick-up
service
Ms. Seeley:
-2 weeks after that we got a complaint: 2 garbage cans from Waste Management are
behind the garage, overflowing with garbage; garbage has not been collected for over
a month; Inspector Hoffman went out there and said that the containers were empty;
he called and the service is now current
Ms. Moermond:
Reduce the assessment from $572 to $420.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
9 RLH TA 15-345 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 80 HATCH AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Scott Beck, Certificate of Occupancy Responsible Party, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-Vacant Building registration fee: $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
-anniversary date: Apr 10, 2014
-got his code compliance certificate on Jun 30, 2015
-just 2 1/2 months into the year
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend deletion
Delete the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
10 RLH TA 15-357 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 1030 MACKUBIN
STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Thomas Huynh, owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Apr 1; compliance Apr 6; re-checked Apr 6
-work done Apr 8 for a cost of $316 + $160 service charge = $476
-failure to maintain exterior property
-sent to Howard R. Merrill, trustee, 1887 Merrill St, Roseville, MN
Mr. Huynh:
-purchased house Apr 16; doesn't think that this assessment is his responsibility
because he didn't own the house on Apr 1
-the title company didn't tell him anything about this
Ms. Moermond:
-when you buy the property, you also buy it's debt - it attaches to the property
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-the previous owner got the Notice
-this clean-up happened only 1 week before you purchased the property
-at closing, the seller was supposed to tell you about pending assessments, Orders,
fees, etc.
-you have to pay this bill
-you can contact the realtor/previous owner and tell them that they neglected to
inform you
VIDEO- city removed fire debris, wood, glass, etc.
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend approval of this assessment
Approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
11 RLH TA 15-346 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 503 OHIO STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
Yi Chen, Certificate of Occupancy Responsible Party, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Apr 3; compliance Apr 13; re-checked Apr 14
-work done Apr 15 for a cost of $430 + $40 service charge = $470
-sent to Bonnie Chen, 503 Ohio St; Gerald J Schult/Bernice M Schult, 9 Oakridge Dr,
South St. Paul
-mail was returned from Bonnie Chen but owner Gerald Schult received it
-large TV outside near dumpster area
Mr. Chan:
-his mother, Bonnie, owns this property but she does not live there
-his mother is buying it Contract for Deed; it's an apartment building and she has
never lived there
-did not get anything in the mail; the mailing address was for Gerald and Bernice
Schult (previous owners); he's lucky that he got this
-his parents and he share the same address
-this is the first time he's hearing about this
-the City of St. Paul gave him a Certificate of Occupancy every year; they have my
address; so, I don't know why I didn't get Noticed
-he gets trash dumped constantly at this place: mattresses, couches, the whole
neighborhood seems to dump there, so, he constantly has to clean things up; he
doesn't even know what garbage this is talking about (assumes from the letter)
Ms. Moermond:
-the address we have for Bonnie Chen, 503 Ohio, is the one that she/her title
company would have filed with with Ramsey County Taxation or the title office;
Ms. Seeley:
-at the time, Ramsey County did not have Mr. Chen's address at 6836 Park Ave S,
Richfield, MN 55423; so, he didn't get the Orders
VIDEO - city picked-up TV outside the dumpster at the rear of apt 205 at 503 Ohio St
Mr. Chen:
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-if he had known about it, he would have removed it
Ms. Seeley:
-he got his C of O Certificate on May 13, 2015
Ms. Moermond:
-this Order was issued 6 weeks before the address was changed
-the city did the clean-up and they did notify the owner of record; they had your
mom's name but her wrong address
Mr. Chen:
-he's not profiting much from this building; there's so much work to be done; and
then, he feels so embarrassed - how do you clean something up that you not notified
about? He feels is just unfair because he didn't get Noticed,
Ms. Moermond:
-and,,, the city didn't have your information, so, they couldn't sent you a Notice
Mr. Chen:
-and he didn't know that the city didn't have that information
Mr. Chen:
-they financed through the owner; he doesn't understand how the address still
remained the same
Ms. Moermond:
-will think about this one
-you will need to go to Ramsey County to change the address
Mr. Chen:
-he did that 2 months ago when they renewed the Contract for Deed and he had a
lawyer do it; so, he doesn't understand
Ms. Seeley:
-there's a lot of C of O issues
-this is the only clean-up on the record
Mr. Chen:
-there's a lot of garbage getting dumped there
Inspector John Peter Ross:
-was taken care of by owner; most complaints seem to be interior tenant complaints;
very few exterior complaints
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend this assessment be reduced from $470 to $235
Reduce from $470 to $235.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
12 RLH TA 15-276 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1508, Assessment No. 158812 at 1258 RICE STREET.
(Amended to Project No. VB1508C, Assessment No. 158827)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
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Appellant sent in letter via email.
Ms. Moermond reviewed the appeal letter and recommended approving the
assessment. There was no indication of when appellant will be done with the repairs
and the building has been in the VB program for 5 months.
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/15/2015
13 RLH TA 15-322 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1509, Assessment No. 158816 at 67 ROSE AVENUE
EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Jason Simmons, appeared; house is in Jeremy Simmons' name; Jason Simmons
paid for the rehab.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly, Vacant Buildings:
-Category 2 Vacant Building file opened Mar 19, 2014
-annual assessment: $2,025 + $155 service charge = $2,180
-mechanical, building, electrical permits finaled
-open warm air permit
-3 1/2 months into the program and very close to getting a sign-off
Mr. Simmons:
-he is confused because it's actually all signed off
-he called Mr. Seeger twice now
Mr. Yannarelly:
-I will email him right now to have him look into this
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend the Council delete this assessment
Delete the assessment. Building was out of VB Program in 3 months.
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/15/2015
14 RLH TA 15-353 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 710 SHERBURNE AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Yongyong Zhang, owner, and friend, Quoc, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-annual registered vacant building feeL $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
-entered the VB Program Mar 27, 2014
-all permits signed off
-Mr. Seeger just needs to issue the Code Compliance Certificate
-will email him, also, and cc MM about the status
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend deletion of this assessment
Delete the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
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15 RLH TA 15-348 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 619 SIMS AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
7/21/15: No show due to car accident. Called to reschedule again. I rescheduled
Mr. Black to August 4. No further continuance if he is a no show at the August 4th
hearing and he would need to contest to City Council.
7/7/15: No show; approve the assessment.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/4/2015
16 RLH TA 15-342 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1509A3, Assessment No. 158531 at 578 THOMAS
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Maurice Hodges appeared on behalf of Chan Huynh, a senior citizen, whose English
is limited.
Mr. Hodges:
-lives right next door to this address at 580 Thomas
-last year Ms. Huynh offered him the house but he couldn't afford it; eventually,
someone else moved in and they weren't paying rent or taking care of the property
(garbage, yard, etc.)
-he hasn't gone through her mail
-is here today because he is in the process of moving into that house and he wants to
know.....
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Feb 10, 2015; compliance Feb 17; re-checked Feb
17-no attempt to move piles of refuse and scattered furniture
-work was done Feb 19 for a cost of $476
-property has a long history; several assessments
-sent to Chan Nguyen, 499 Western Ave N, St. Paul; Nghi Huynh, 417 University Ave
W, St. Paul; and Occupant
-in capital letters: Remove multiple piles of black trash bags and garbage in the alley
VIDEO - removed bags and container
-have been 5 Excessive Consumptions
Mr. Hodges:
-sometimes he goes over there to help her because things are difficult for her
-she's a senior citizen, who is handicapped, as well
-tenants aren't taking care of things; not paying the rent either
-she offered to sell him the house, as well; he is going to rent it now and buy it later
Ms. Moermond:
-provided him with Tonya Townsend's # 651/266-6153 in Real Estate; she can look
up any assessments for clean-ups, etc.
-re this assessment, it looks like she got the Notice that things needed to be taken
care of it but she didn't take care of it
-will recommend approval of this assessment
-even is she's older and handicapped, it's her responsibility to take care of the
property
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Mr. Hodges:
-tenants moved out Jun 30 and he will be moving in next month; plans to purchase
the house in Dec or Jan
-he is fixing some things
-he would like to be notified of things; he will come down to represent this property;
he doesn't want it to get out of hand before he purchases it
Ms. Moermond:
-the letters are sent to the Occupant at this property
Approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/15/2015
17 RLH TA 15-347 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 1138 THOMAS
AVENUE
Sponsors: Stark
Appellant was misinformed of hearing date information. Rescheduled to July 21.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
18 RLH TA 15-352 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 911 WILSON
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Forthcoming. LHO wants to contact building inspector about permits.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
19 RLH TA 15-335 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. J1506E, Assessment No. 158308 at 343 WINIFRED
STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
Andrew Dunbar, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Excessive Consumption
-Sep 4, 2014, Correction Notice was sent to get a permit for a furnace replacement
-it's a Category 1 Vacant Building opened Oct 4, 2010
-inspector issued 3 separate EC's; he didn't take care of the furnace
Inspector Ross:
-the contractor was supposed to call DSI and say that the furnace has been repaired
but he didn't do it
Mr. Dunbar:
-the contractor made the correction in May; the inspector came back and verified that
it was fixed but no one closed out the permit;
-he kept calling and calling the inspector
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-then, he called Mr. Dornfeld
Ms. Seeley:
-the mechanical permit is finaled; everything is taken care of
Ms. Moermond:
-3 separate EC's for noncompliance
Ms. Seeley:
-one has been levied; this one is for $155; doesn't see any forthcoming EC's
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend this assessment be deleted
-the problem has been taken care of and one EC has already been paid
Delete the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
20 RLH TA 15-290 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate
Project No. VB1508, Assessment No. 158812 at 647 YORK AVENUE.
(Amended to Project No. VB1508A, Assessment No. 158825)
Sponsors: Bostrom
No show; approve the assessment.
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/15/2015
Special Tax Assessments - ROLLS
21 RLH AR 15-48 Ratifying Tree Removal services from April 2015. (File No. 1507T,
Assessment No. 159007)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
22 RLH AR 15-49 Ratifying Collection of Vacant Building fees billed October 21, 2014 to
March 19, 2015. (File No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
23 RLH AR 15-50 Ratifying Property Clean Up services during April 1 to 30, 2015. (File
No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
24 RLH AR 15-51 Ratifying Trash Hauling services during April 1 to 29, 2015. (File No.
J1510G, Assessment No. 158711)
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Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/19/2015
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders & Correction Orders
25 RLH SAO 15-43 Appeal of Robert J. McCarthy to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1356
JEFFERSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Deny the appeal. Appellant failed to appear for hearing and also failed to submit
diagram of his lot and how the parking area fits in, where the tree is, garage, etc;
solution that would allow for water getting through 1) permeable pavers or 2) carriage
tracks-old fashioned driveways.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
26 RLH SAO 15-46 Appeal of Thomas Adamson to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1519
ALMOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
Deny the appeal; no show for hearing.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
27 RLH SAO 15-48 Appeal of Dan Linders, Linders Specialty Company, to a Summary
Abatement Order at 432 ATWATER STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
Dan Linders, Linders Specialty Company, owner, appeared.
Inspector John Peter Ross:
-complaint came in regarding refuse; inspection was made
-Orders were issued Jun 15, 2015: Remove loose and scattered refuse around and
behind the building; compliance Jun 22
-there's been some communication between Inspector Sean Westenhofer and Mr.
Linders regarding the origin of the refuse
-under the property maintenance code, this property owner is responsible for the
clean-up
-photos
-pulled up an overhead map: large triangular property between Como, Western and
Atwater on the NW corner
Mr. Linders:
-there has been some dumping; he had called the city about it
-going back to 1985, that Como bridge had been widened; so now, the public walk
way has been shortened to maybe 10 feet on a very drastic slope
-they are trying to paint the back of their building - put some money into the building;
in order to complete the painting of the exterior of the building, they had to call the
city and ask them to trim back the trees; instead of trimming back the trees, they
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totally removed 20 trees; and upon removing these trees, the garbage was exposed;
so, he emailed in a complaint just to get someone to come out; his intention was to
work with the city; it's hard to define the property line - he asked the city to see if they
could draw the property line
Ms. Moermond:
-remembers looking at the ROW on this; there's a lot of ROW around this building; it's
confusing
Mr. Linders:
-it's really confusing because they put in a holding pond; there was a railroad spur in
there; it's a terrible piece of property; but they want to try to do some work on their
facility; they have a lot of water running in off of that high embankment; they may
need to go back and excavate that and that's the reason that they need to get the lot
line marked; the dirt on that slope is pushed up about 3 feet high on their building and
the water seeps............
-he and Ms. Moermond viewed the photos together
-a retaining pond was put in where a company used to be in the late 70's, early 80's
-they are trying to make some use of this property and improve it; but once those
trees were removed.... they had known that there had been people sleeping back
there, cooking meth back there and they decided to fix the building and take things to
the next level and clean it all up; it will take a lot of work - a lot of clean-up
-he would like to work with the city to landscape it properly; otherwise, he would just
put up a fence once he finds out where the property line and the trash would just wind
up against the fence
-he signed a graffiti waiver
-would like to get things landscaped so that no one will sleep next to the building or
do drugs there; and maybe vandalism would stop, too
-would also like to install lights alongside the building to help dissuade garbage being
thrown over there, etc. ($5,000 investment to do that)
Ms. Moermond:
-you are doing the right thing in terms of lighting and landscaping; other things that
are advised are cameras, no dumping signs, et.
Mr. Linders:
-would like to work with someone in the city so that his side of the street looks like the
other side of the street and we eliminate it as a home for people and a dumping site,
which would help the safety of the neighborhood (one less place where they are
sleeping and cooking meth)
-the business is metal fabrication and they had problems with having metal stolen out
of their back yard; now, if it's shiny, they keep it inside; they were able to catch one of
the people and they haven't had problems with that since; they've also had the
building broken into and they stole over $100,000 worth of items; so, they put in
cameras; they are slowly improving the area
Ms. Moermond:
-noted that the SPPD used to have someone who'd work with people on the
environment around and in the building for crime prevention
Mr. Ross:
-The FORCE Unit, maybe
-for property maintenance, technically, the owner would be responsible for up to the
sidewalk or the street, if there were no sidewalk
Mr. Linder:
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-so, in this particular case, what can he do to prevent people from just using it as a
dump; is he allowed to put up a 10-foot high fence
-he is really looking for someone to work with from the city to give him direction and
who knows what is allowed and what is not allowed
-the last issue he had was snow removal off the bridge: pushing the snow off onto
the backside of their building - you can see the salt going through their brick wall; it's
deteriorating the brick; when the city widened Como, they should have removed his
building instead of destroying it
Ms. Seeley:
-with a variance you can put up a 10-foot fence; go to Zoning and talk about it
Ms. Moermond:
-the scattered and loose trash around your property is your responsibility; it will be
cheaper for you to hire someone to do it than if the city does it for you
-suggested that he connect with the Ward 5 Office; also, with Forestry Division of
Parks and Rec; Code Enforcement and the FORCE Unit (Officer Graupman and
Officer Keenan); the Ward Office can orchestrate the communication
-will give you a new deadline for what's in this Order: Jul 31, 2015
-City Council Public Hearing Aug 5, 2015
Grant until July 31, 2015 for the loose and scattered refuse throughout the property to
come into compliance.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
28 RLH SAO 15-47 Appeal of John Krenik to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1270
CLEVELAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Rescheduled per request.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/14/2015
29 RLH CO 15-16 Appeal of Daniel Craig Solberg to a Correction Notice at 103 FRONT
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
7/8/15: Owner came in and requested to be rescheduled. LHO approved to be
rescheduled to July 21.
7/7/15: Deny the appeal; no show for hearing.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
30 RLH SAO 15-49 Appeal of Sean Schouveller to a Summary Abatement Order and
Vehicle Abatement Order at 873 JOHNSON PARKWAY.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Sean Schouveller, tax owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement issued Jun 18; compliance Jun 23
-remove wood, car parts, scrap metal, garbage and debris from property of store it in
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the garage
-also a Vehicle Abatement Order on a gray Chevy with expired tabs
-photos
Mr. Schouveller:
-looking for a little more time
-the gray Chevy has tabs on it now
-he plans to get rid of a lot of stuff; his grandfather passed away and he had a lot
inside of the garage that needs to go
-part of it is already gone; it will all be gone in a couple of weeks
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend an extension to Jul 24, 2015
-City Council Public Hearing is Aug 5, 2015
-an inspector will go out and check on Jul 27
Grant until July 24, 2015 for compliance.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
31 RLH SAO 15-50 Appeal of Alan Gear to a Summary Abatement Order at 598
MAGNOLIA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Alan Gear, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Jun 19, 2015; compliance Jun 24
-overgrowth of vines and rank plant growth on the west side of the property
-she spoke with Mr. Humphrey and Mr. Magner -both agree that even though, they
are not Mr. Gear's vines, etc, they are a nuisance: people can hide in them, trash
gets caught there; it need to get cut back
-overhead photo on the screen
Mr. Gear:
-the vines originate on the other side of the fence; that's not visible in the photo
-has photos of the whole neighborhood as far as plant overgrowth into the alley
-he wants Ms. Moermond to state the actual ordinance that this plant growth violates
-in Highland Park, there's plant growth all over the place
-is this the inspector's interpretation or does code specify
Ms. Moermond:
-there are 2 codes that this could come from: 1) Minimum Property Maintenance
Standards; and 2) Chap 45 - Nuisances
Ms. Seeley:
-Chap 45.15 - "Rank plant growth, vines, uncontrolled vegetation, which are
conducive to accumulation of refuse, debris, harbor of vermin, must be cut back."
Mr. Gear:
-has a photo of his front yard where the elevation is the same as his neighbors'
-has a photo of his back yard where his is a lower elevation with a walk out
basement; the neighbor's yard is 20 feet higher than his with a fence; so, the vines
are in the air; they may be protruding into air space
-his grass is all cut
-there is no vine growth on the east side
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-west side - there are electrical wires in there; he contacted Excel Energy and they
don't want to come out and cut down their easement in the air space any more; and
he's not going to cut down trees with wires; the trees aren't even on his property
-brought up his photos of neighbors' yards and throughout the neighborhood
-his house is for sale; he has owned it since 1993 and has never had a complaint;
now, he's going to make complaints on all of these other properties; and if the city
doesn't follow thru on those, he will be going back after the city
-he doesn't think it's proper to leave an Ordinance open to interpretation from one
inspector to the next
Ms. Moermond:
-needs Mr. Gear to back off of Inspector Seeley; her enforcement is not personal
-complaints come in by an anonymous call or is found upon inspection; it's a
complaint-based system; unfortunately, some of the fallout of operating under a
complaint-based system is that things are missed; it is the inspector's job to
determine whether or not it's a founded concern
Ms. Seeley:
-complaint came in Apr 27; Inspector Gavin went out and found garbage, rubbish,
loose trash, etc; May 1, he re-checked and wrote a Summary Abatement on the
vines: "Bushes, trees, plants obstructing public sidewalk and alley ROW; cut all
overgrowth back to the inside property line. Cut down and properly dispose of rank
plant growth on the side of the house and in the rear yard." He sent a Work Order to
Parks May 8, 2015; Parks said that it was done by owner; Parks was supposed to do
that work on May 19, 2015; Mr. Magner was furious and he told me to go back out
there and send another Order
-the trash, litter, etc, was done by owner
-the owner didn't take care of the vines
-the vines were put on a separate Order from the trash: "Cut down and dispose of
overgrown vines and rank plant growth along the west end of the property and
branches obstructing the alley ROW
-currently, she has 3 Orders going on in that alley
Mr. Gear:
-the city's code 45.15 isn't very clear - what is overgrowth? How much is
overgrowth?
-in Highland Park, that's what the yard's look like; that's what they want for privacy;
there's overgrowth there; What is considered overgrowth?
-the code isn't direct about overgrowth (for grass, it's over 6 inches; or protruding
over the alley)
-and this is somebody else's vines that are covering up somebody else's wall;
then,let's get everybody's greenery cut down
-that wall is not a pretty site; the wall is the property line
Ms. Seeley:
-Chap 45.15 states: "rank plant growth; vines; uncontrolled vegetation which are
conducive to the accumulation of refuse, debris and harborage of vermin must be cut
back"
Ms. Moermond:
-photos: although the roots don't originate on your property, you are responsible for
the greenery that's on your property; it does need to be removed
-the old photos show the wall; this is an overgrowth and it constitutes a nuisance
-if you believed that there are other nuisance conditions out there that should be
called, by all means, identify them and call them in; they will be investigated, as well;
call 651/266-8989
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-deadline for compliance is Aug 7, 2015
-will be on the City Council's agenda on Aug 5, 2015; they can change the deadline
Mr. Gear:
-the majority of what you see in the picture is gone
Ms. Moermond:
-you need to work with Inspector Seeley
Mr. Gear:
-I tried to; she won't; then, I tried to talk to Steve; then, I got a hold of Chuck and now,
I'm here
Ms. Moermond:
-I made my decision on what I'm recommending to the Council
Mr. Gear:
-requesting a copy of the audio for this meeting
Ms. Moermond:
Grant until August 7, 2015 for compliance.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
32 RLH CO 15-14 Appeal of Rejuv-A-Home to a Correction Notice at 1619 SELBY
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
Deny the appeal; no show for hearing.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
33 RLH SAO 15-52 Appeal of Patrick McNally to a Summary Abatement Order at 225
SIDNEY STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thune
Patrick McNally, owner appeared.
Inspector John Peter Ross:
-complaint came in about blvd plants exceeding 3 ft in height; possibly creating a
visible traffic hazard
-inspected and found to be the case
-Summary Abatement Order was issued Jun 25, 2015 to trim back the blvd plants
that exceeded 3 ft in height; compliance Jul 2
-brought pictures up on the screen
Mr. McNally:
-has photos
-property is in the middle of the block
-some of these plants do exceed 3 ft (milk weed is essential for the Monarch
Butterfly; he has Monarch eggs under some leaves)
-this has been a real good year for native plants
-bought this house 15 years ago in Oct and has been blvd planting most of that time
-he is passionate about native plants; about 80% of the plantings on the blvd is native
plants; he uses no fertilizers or pesticides
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-the blvd is actually a good place for native plants; he doesn't have to water it; they
have deep roots and there's not much run-off
-he puts a lot of work and money into this garden
-doesn't feel that the safety concern is very big
Ms. Moermond:
-she is only concerned about the driveways and getting the height down near the
driveways so that visibility is improved
Mr. Ross:
-the code: plantings are permitted on the blvd subject to the following regulations:
may not exceed 36" in height except within 5 feet from any alley or driveway where
the limit is 18"
Mr. McNally:
-of all the years he's been doing this, he was totally unaware of any height regulation
Ms. Moermond:
-thinks it's great what he's doing with the native plants in the blvd; she has no
concern about that
-her concern is just about the height within 5 feet of the driveway; get it down to 18
inches by trimming or rearranging the plants
Mr. McNally:
-thinks that 18" is a little extreme
-there's really only 1 child who rides on the sidewalk and he's talked with his parents;
they have no problem with what he's doing
Ms. Moermond:
-don't disturb the Monarch eggs
-will recommend that he get a variance of 4 foot plantings in most of the blvd, but the
side with the driveway must be down to 18 inches within 5 ft of the driveway. Grant
until August 7, 2015 to come into compliance.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
34 RLH SAO 15-51 Appeal of Catherine Wyatt to a Summary Abatement Order at 2027
STILLWATER AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Catherine Wyatt, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order sent Jun 25; compliance Jun 29: immediately remove
stakes and obstructions along the driveway/property line. This is causing an exit
obstruction, interferes or renders dangerous for passage; and a hazard for
emergency response vehicles. All exterior areas shall be maintained in a safe, sound
condition, free of hazards.
-photos
-believes that Inspector Meshuga had her move those stakes last year, too
-thinks that Ms. Martin was concerned about emergency vehicles getting into the
driveway
Ms. Moermond:
-in the photo she has, it looks like stakes
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Ms. Wyatt:
-these markers are along the edge of her driveway; she doesn't think that they hinder
people getting in and out at all
-the real issue is that her neighbor can't back up in a straight line; she drives up onto
Ms. Wyatt's asphalt, the edges crack and crumble
-there's plenty of space for vehicles to get in and out; she can get in and out of her
driveway without going onto the neighbor's property; the neighbors are renting
tenants; she had talked with the owner, who has no issue with the stakes; he thought
it was resolved; he knows why the stakes are there - it's to prevent her from backing
onto her driveway
-she already has a fence partially down the side of her driveway; if she were to
extend that fence to the end of her house, what's the difference?
-thinks the neighbor has a fear of backing up
-has already has several poles destroyed or removed; Ms. Wyatt knows that the
neighbor drove over them, she can see that by the tire tracks; she took photos; she
showed the neighbor the pictures
-Ms. Wyatt has actually seen her neighbor backing over the poles; chunks are
coming off the edge of her asphalt
Ms. Moermond:
-why is DSI asking for these to be removed?
Inspector John Peter Ross:
-the posts went up in Mar of 2015 according to Inspector Meshuga (that's when he
got a complaint)
Ms. Wyatt:
-she put up the orange posts first but they started to disappear because she would
drive right over them; then, she started to replace them with the metal ones
-the neighbor would have more problems with a fence
-her driveway is inside the property line
-the little space between the 2 driveways is not her property; the owner said that he
wants, eventually, to replace that cement driveway with a driveway that meets her
driveway
Ms. Moermond:
-I do like the fact that they are reflective markers so that someone could see them
when they are backing up or coming in
Ms. Wyatt:
-she had 2 blue reflectors at the end of the driveway that disappeared
-either the neighbor is removing them or someone else
-the owner of the rental property has spoken to the tenants about this; they don't
listen
-right now, she has taken all the poles/markers/reflectors out and put them into her
garage
Ms. Moermond:
-assumes that the asphalt has gone through plan review
-is not seeing any objective determination in the Orders saying that the driveway is
not sufficiently wide for an emergency vehicle to go in there and, is it even a
requirement that an emergency vehicle go into the driveway or simply have access to
the property from the street? It's not compelling
-whatever is in there, she'd like it to be reflective; cover the posts from top to bottom
with reflective tape and put in twice as many, equally spaced
-you will get a letter confirming that your appeal is granted
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-no specific deadline; just put them all up within the same week
Grant the appeal on the condition that the owner put reflective posts alongside the
driveway.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
35 RLH VO 15-35 Appeal of Gonzo Guerra to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of
Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 717 SMITH AVENUE SOUTH.
Sponsors: Thune
Owner in compliance.
Withdrawn
36 RLH FCO Appeal of Daniel Engen to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
15-125 (Condemnation) at 1743 IOWA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Appellant in compliance.
Withdrawn
37 RLH CO 15-17 Appeal of Patricia Hoffman to a Correction Notice at 1040 SIMS
AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Patricia Hoffman, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-complaint on the condition of the property; the roof of the house is collapsing
-Inspector Martin went out and took photos; she did not see that the roof was
collapsing; the shingles are curling and cupping
-sent Order on the roof, broken window on front door, torn screens, broken front door
handle; replace rotten eaves and soffits
-Order sent Jun 2; Jul 24 re-check
-explained that 2 months would be necessary, at least
-understands that Ms. Hoffman has filled out an application with Rebuilding Together
Ms. Hoffman:
-if she doesn't get any assistance from Rebuilding Together, she will need to get
some elsewhere
-asked for suggestions
-hoping to get an extension to Sep 29
Ms. Seeley:
-suggested Zong Vang, PED; Mai Shong, ESNDC; Brush with Kindness -
651/207-1700
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Ms. Moermond:
-the roof, eaves and soffit is the big part
-the cracked windows, screens; will give you a month deadline on that part of the
repair
-will lay this over for 2 weeks to see how you're doing with getting help financing the
rest
-asked Ms. Hoffman to contact her office in 2 weeks to let her know where she's at;
then, she will set up a deadline for the roof, eaves & soffits
Layover to discuss where appellant is at with programs that would be able to assist
her in getting the repairs done.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
38 RLH FCO Appeal of Robert Stein to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
15-112 at 332 JESSAMINE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Rescheduled per owner's request.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/28/2015
39 RLH FCO Appeal of David Lanham to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
15-116 at 1818 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST. (appellant withdrew the appeal.)
Sponsors: Bostrom
All repairs are in compliance.
Withdrawn
40 RLH FCO Appeal of Patrick Lynch to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 2121
15-117 MINNEHAHA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Finney
Frank Lynch appeared; son of owner, Patrick Lynch.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice dated Jun 9, 2015 conducted by
Inspector Jonathan Gaulke
-only appealed item is #4, the 2nd floor ceiling height, highest point is 6'6" (7 ft is
required over half the floor area)
-photos
Mr. Lynch:
-also brought photos
Ms. Moermond:
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-all photos were viewed and compared
-this is 6 inches short
Mr. Lynch:
-he doesn't know how to correct that
-the room is used for sleeping by their mother who is hearing impaired
-he and his dad bought the house in 2013 from the daughters of the man who built
the house; these 2 women, who are now in their mid-late 60's, actually grew up in
that bedroom
-built in 1952, it's been classified as a 3-bedroom house
-renters live there now
-he is 6'5" and has no problem getting up and down; there's plenty of closet space
and a window on each end of the room; it gets plenty of light
Ms. Moermond:
-this is a tricky one
Mr. Lynch:
-at the lowest point, it's just over 4 feet
-the room runs the whole length of the house; substantially large room; so, to deem it
unusable seems unrealistic, in his opinion
-they have done a significant amount of work; taken no short cuts; all new windows,
doors, new electrical system, new furnace, new air conditioner; they try to do things
above and beyond the standard
-have hard-wired smoke and CO detectors throughout, specifically, one for hearing
impaired upstairs (Ms. Shaff: I'm good with that)
Ms. Moermond:
-it's 2-3 feet wide where the ceiling is 6'6"
-seeing a nice open stairway and a good landing on the attic level; it's clean and a
good window to get out of at either end
-she; would feel more comfortably with a couple inches more
-in the 1950's, this was probably considered livable space and used as a bedroom
Grant a variance on the ceiling height in the upper level.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/5/2015
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
41 RLH VBR 15-42 Appeal of Tonja Miller to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1732
REANEY AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Layover so that inspector can conduct an inspection.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
42 RLH VBR 15-46 Appeal of Thomas W. Igar, on behalf of the Estate of William S. Igar,
to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1032 MARGARET
STREET.
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Sponsors: Finney
7/8/15: Attorney, Michelle Barrette contacted our office via email and stated she
requested that the matter be rescheduled to July 21 at 1:30 p.m.
7/7/15: Deny the appeal; no show for hearing.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/21/2015
3:00 p.m. Hearings
Other
43 RLH OA 15-6 Appeal of Fred Kueppers for Grand Heritage Properties, LLC to a Fire
Inspection Code Compliance Notice at 1659 GRAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Rescheduled per attorney's request.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/14/2015
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 7, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-349 No. J1506E, Assessment No. 158308, at 1217 ALBEMARLE STREET
Sponsors: Brendmoen
2 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-323 No. VB1509, Assessment No. 158816 at 400 BATES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
3 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-354 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 530 CHARLES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
4 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-344 No. J1510G, Assessment No. 158411 at 581 COOK AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
5 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-355 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 751 COOK AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
6 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-350 No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 1164 COOK AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
7 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-351 No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 25 ELIZABETH STREET
EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
8 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-356 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 967 FREMONT AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
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9 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-345 No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 80 HATCH AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
10 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-357 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 1030 MACKUBIN STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
11 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-346 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 503 OHIO STREET.
Sponsors: Thune
12 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-276 No. VB1508, Assessment No. 158812 at 1258 RICE STREET.
(Amended to Project No. VB1508C, Assessment No. 158827)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
13 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-322 No. VB1509, Assessment No. 158816 at 67 ROSE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
14 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-353 No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 710 SHERBURNE AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
15 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-348 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 619 SIMS AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
16 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-342 No. J1509A3, Assessment No. 158531 at 578 THOMAS AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
17 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-347 No. J1511A, Assessment No. 158524 at 1138 THOMAS AVENUE
Sponsors: Stark
18 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-352 No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822 at 911 WILSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
19 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-335 No. J1506E, Assessment No. 158308 at 343 WINIFRED STREET
EAST.
Sponsors: Thune
20 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Real Estate Project
15-290 No. VB1508, Assessment No. 158812 at 647 YORK AVENUE.
(Amended to Project No. VB1508A, Assessment No. 158825)
Sponsors: Bostrom
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Special Tax Assessments - ROLLS
21 RLH AR Ratifying Tree Removal services from April 2015. (File No. 1507T,
15-48 Assessment No. 159007)
Sponsors: Stark
22 RLH AR Ratifying Collection of Vacant Building fees billed October 21, 2014 to
15-49 March 19, 2015. (File No. VB1510, Assessment No. 158822)
Sponsors: Stark
23 RLH AR Ratifying Property Clean Up services during April 1 to 30, 2015. (File No.
15-50 J1511A, Assessment No. 158524)
Sponsors: Stark
24 RLH AR Ratifying Trash Hauling services during April 1 to 29, 2015. (File No.
15-51 J1510G, Assessment No. 158711)
Sponsors: Stark
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders & Correction Orders
25 RLH SAO Appeal of Robert J. McCarthy to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1356
15-43 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
26 RLH SAO Appeal of Thomas Adamson to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1519
15-46 ALMOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
27 RLH SAO Appeal of Dan Linders, Linders Specialty Company, to a Summary
15-48 Abatement Order at 432 ATWATER STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
28 RLH SAO Appeal of John Krenik to a Vehicle Abatement Order at 1270
15-47 CLEVELAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
29 RLH CO Appeal of Daniel Craig Solberg to a Correction Notice at 103 FRONT
15-16 AVENUE.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
30 RLH SAO Appeal of Sean Schouveller to a Summary Abatement Order and
15-49 Vehicle Abatement Order at 873 JOHNSON PARKWAY.
Sponsors: Bostrom
31 RLH SAO Appeal of Alan Grear to a Summary Abatement Order at 598
15-50 MAGNOLIA AVENUE EAST.
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32 RLH CO Appeal of Rejuv-A-Home to a Correction Notice at 1619 SELBY
15-14 AVENUE.
Sponsors: Stark
33 RLH SAO Appeal of Patrick McNally to a Summary Abatement Order at 225
15-52 SIDNEY STREET WEST.
Sponsors: Thune
34 RLH SAO Appeal of Catherine Wyatt to a Summary Abatement Order at 2027
15-51 STILLWATER AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
35 RLH VO Appeal of Gonzo Guerra to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of
15-35 Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 717 SMITH AVENUE SOUTH.
Sponsors: Thune
36 RLH FCO Appeal of Daniel Engen to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
15-125 (Condemnation) at 1743 IOWA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
37 RLH CO Appeal of Patricia Hoffman to a Correction Notice at 1040 SIMS
15-17 AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
38 RLH FCO Appeal of Robert Stein to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection at
15-112 332 JESSAMINE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
39 RLH FCO Appeal of David Lanham to a Correction Notice - Complaint Inspection
15-116 at 1818 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST. (appellant withdrew the appeal.)
Sponsors: Bostrom
40 RLH FCO Appeal of Patrick Lynch to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 2121
15-117 MINNEHAHA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Finney
2:30 p.m. Hearings
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Vacant Building Registrations
41 RLH VBR Appeal of Tonja Miller to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1732
15-42 REANEY AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
42 RLH VBR Appeal of Thomas W. Igar, on behalf of the Estate of William S. Igar, to
15-46 a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1032 MARGARET STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
3:00 p.m. Hearings
Other
43 RLH OA Appeal of Fred Kueppers for Grand Heritage Properties, LLC to a Fire
15-6 Inspection Code Compliance Notice at 1659 GRAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
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