Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · November 3, 2015
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA 15-536 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 923
AGATE STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Joseph W. Schmidt, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Jul 31, 2015; compliance Aug 5; re-checked Aug
6
-work done Aug 7 for a cost of $358 + $160 = $518
-no returned mail
-sent to Joseph and Diane Schmidt, 6534 Hokah Dr, Lino Lakes; and to the Occupant
-bold letters: Remove stack of tires by garage
Ms. Moermond:
-looks like there was overflowing garbage there, as well
Mr. Schmidt:
-he wasn't sure what this was about; living in Lino Lakes, he doesn't get the mail a
day or two before the compliance date
-he evicted the tenant that had been living there; she owed quite a bit of back rent
-then, he started cleaning up the property; had a big dumpster from LePage; found
some tires in the garage and he tried to find another company that would take the
tires; he found another company and they were going to remove the tires on the 8th;
so, he thought they had been taken care of by the dumpster company because they
were gone; apparently, the city picked them up
Ms. Moermond:
-the Order was mailed on Fri, Jul 31; compliance deadline was Wed Aug 5; it was
re-checked Aug 6 and it wasn't gone so the inspector wrote an Order for a crew to go
out on Fri Aug 7 to pick up the tires
Mr. Schmidt:
-he assumed that the city would see that he was trying to get rid of them because he
had the dumpster there
-when he went down there to put the tires into the dumpster but the dumpster was
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gone and the tires were gone
-he expected to pay to have the tires removed but he didn't expect to pay so much
-he'd be OK with paying half of the $518; he was going to have to pay $250 to have
the tires removed by Berquest
Ms. Moermond:
-photo: she is looking at the tires next to a large blue garbage can
Approve.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
2 RLH TA 15-537 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1245
ARKWRIGHT STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
3 RLH TA 15-538 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 164
ARLINGTON AVENUE WEST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No.
168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
4 RLH TA 15-531 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1038
BAYARD AVENUE (File No. CRT1602, Assessment No. 168201 ).
Sponsors: Thune
Vera Lyubeznik, GI Rentals LLC, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector Leanna Shaff:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy fee; gold card returned by Ms. Lyubeznik
-cost: $196 + $155 service charge = $351
-appointment letters sent: 3-4 and 3-27-15
-deficiency letter sent: 4-21-15
-approved: 5-15-15
-billing dates: 5-19 & 6-18-15
-no returned mail
-all mailings sent to GI Rental LLC, 1776 Yorkshire Ave, St. Paul
Ms. Lyubeznik:
-moved to new address Jun 18
-mail was forwarded Jun 11 but they didn't get it
-we got huge package of mail from new owners
-as soon as they got it, she called to re-schedule; we didn't know what was going on
Ms. Moermond:
-asked Inspector Shaff how long this property has been in the C of O Program
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Ms. Shaff:
-they entered the C of O Program in 2010
-first inspection was in 2011; this is the 2nd C of O
-class B rating; inspected every 4 years
Ms. Moermond:
-one bill went out May 19, 2015; the other one went out at the same time your
address was changing on Jun 18; so, the one that went out in May would have gone
to the proper address
Ms. Lyubeznik:
-during that time she was sick a lot and also in the hospital
-she just didn't see it come thru; if she had seen it, she would have paid it
Ms. Moermond:
-so, you are OK with paying your C of O fee but not the administrative fees
associated with it
-provided Appellant with a new C of O form
-a bill was sent to the correct address when it was a correct address; however, you
didn't get it; other things were going on in your life at that time and you could have
missed it
-will recommend approval
Approve.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
5 RLH TA 15-528 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 994
BURR STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Patricia J. Schley, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Jul 24, 2015; compliance Jul 31; re-checked Jul
31
-work done Aug 3, 2015 for a cost of $372 + $160 service charge = $478
-failure to maintain exterior property
-bold letters: Tree debris, compost on the side of the garage and in the rear yard;
wood must be split and properly stacked or removed
-sent to to Patricia J. Schley, 994 Burr St; and Occupant
-no returned mail
-she was out of town; we spoke many times; she would this spread over a period of
time
Ms. Schley:
-it was stacked fire wood and had been there for 3 1/2 years and she didn't know it
was a problem
-she was doing volunteer work in Bulgaria and didn't get home in time
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend approval divided over 5 years.
Approve and spread over 5 years.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
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6 RLH TA 15-540 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 242
CONGRESS STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
(Note: other address for this property is 469 Anita Street.)
Sponsors: Thune
Mackonnen Hidru, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Aug 5, 2015; compliance Aug 11; re-checked
Aug 12
-work done Aug 14 for a cost of $180 + $160 service charge = $340
-no returned mail
-sent to Mackonnen Hidru, 13364 Fordham Ave, Apple Valley, MN; and Occupant,
469 Anita St, St. Paul
-TV on blvd
Mr. Hidru:
-would like to see a photo or the Video
VIDEO - shows TV near the dumpster; photo shows TV in the middle of the yard
Ms. Moermond:
-knows that regular garbage companies won't pick-up TVs unless you call them
Mr. Hidru:
-this was only for the TV?
Ms. Moermond:
-the VIDEO showed that the city picked up the TV on Aug 14, 2015
-they sent Orders Aug 5; wanted it done by Aug 11; the inspector checked Aug 12 to
see if it had been removed; and the crew removed it Aug 14
-you were given a almost a week to remove it
Mr. Hidru:
-as you can see, my mailing address is different from this address and it takes time to
get the letter and then to get the TV out of there; there are no renters there
-he's done a lot of work there: siding, roof,
Ms. Seeley:
-on 9-14 the city cleaned up concrete, rubble and scrap metal, etc. in the back yard
Mr. Hidru:
-he does have an acting building permit for the house
-he's doing the work himself and it's a long trip from Apple Valley to St. Paul
-and, the city is destroying my front lawn by putting heavy equipment on it
Ms. Moermond:
-today, we're not talking about the concrete rubble; that will be a future proposed
assessment
-today, we're talking about the pick up of the TV
-she would be much more sympathetic about the TV if you didn't have another one
coming up
-and, a building permit doesn't mean that you can have refuse in the back yard
Ms. Moermond
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-will recommend approval
Approve.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
7 RLH TA 15-519 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 963
CONWAY STREET (File No. J1601B, Assessment No. 168100).
Sponsors: Finney
Approve; no show.
Clifford Dodd called to reschedule. He stated the owner has been in and out of
hospital and so he couldn't make the November 3rd hearing. He will be rescheduled
for the 3rd time to November 17. If he is unable to attend, he will need to go to City
Council.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/17/2015
8 RLH TA 15-539 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1529
DALE STREET NORTH (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
9 RLH TA 15-541 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1102
EDGERTON STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Vadim Tokman, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Jul 31, 2015; compliance Aug 7; re-checked Aug
7
-work done Aug 11, 2015 for a cost of $180 + $160 service charge = $340
-no returned mail
-sent to Vadim Tokman, 780 Cherokee Ave, Unit 2, St. Paul; BLM Management
Group, 899 7th St W, St. Paul and Occupant
-in capital letters: bushes obstructing alley; cut back and remove trash
Mr. Tokman:
-he cut his bushes back in summer
-BLM is no longer his management company; he manages his property himself
-last year, it was the same issue; I cut and it was OK; I cut the bushes the same in
alley this year, so I assumed it was fine
-he pays for garbage and they pick up garbage
VIDEO - bad video; viewed it again
Ms. Moermond:
-photos show a lot of encroachment of bushes
-showed Mr. Tokman about how much he should cut
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-will approve this assessment divided over 3 years
Approve and spread over 3 years.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
10 RLH TA 15-526 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1183
FIFTH STREET EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
11 RLH TA 15-532 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 668
FOURTH STEET EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
12 RLH TA 15-535 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 419
FRY STREET (File No. VB1603, Assessment No. 168802).
Sponsors: Stark
Paul Johnson, owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-Annual Registered Vacant Building fee $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
-VB file opened Mar 24, 2009; currently, there's 4 active permits
-Apr 28, 2015, Ms. Moermond waived the VB fee until Aug 1, 2015
-covers time period from Mar 24, 2015 - Mar 24, 2016
Ms. Moermond:
-we are 7 months into that year
-looks like you're making some forward motion
Mr. Johnson:
-he purchased property last year and then, he was in a car accident; the plan was to
get done a little faster but the car accident took him out for a few months; but he has
all his permits pulled; and the majority of the work has been done on the back end;
now, a building permit has been pulled, as well
-looking for an additional extension
Ms. Moermond:
-at this point, she won't recommend that he get another waiver - we're 7 months into
the year
-she prefers to take this assessment and prorate it based on you finishing it soon
than later
-will be in front of City Council Jan 20, 2016
-she will look at it the week prior to that and come up with something
-if you have any questions when it's close to that hearing time, give me a call or email
-if you get done by the end of Dec, we can look at a cut in the fee
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Mr. Johnson:
-when this gets done, he will be living there
Mr. Moermond:
-if we're looking at the whole fee or a substantial fee, she can divide it over 5 years
Mr. Johnson:
-he does not want the assessment divided over time; he would prefer to discuss
having an extension on the date vs paying the fee
-the property has been buttoned up; progress is being made
-have owned the property for only 1 year and for 9 months, he's been dealing with
getting back to being capable of working on the property
Ms. Moermond:
-she doesn't feel comfortable helping him out by way of a waiver any more; we're too
far into the year
-she will bringing either a recommendation to charge the whole assessment or
charge a portion of the assessment
-come to the City Council Public Hearing and explain your situation to them; and she
will be watching it to see if she can decrease it
May prorate VB fee if the repairs are done by the end of December; if work is done
after January 1, 2016, approve the whole VB fee.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
13 RLH TA 15-551 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1364
GALTIER STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
14 RLH TA 15-547 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1377
HOYT AVENUE EAST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No. 168802).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Delete; according to Inspector Singerhouse, rehab completed in August and file
should have been closed then. (No hearing necessary)
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
15 RLH TA 15-524 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 607
HYACINTH AVENUE EAST (File No. J1602E, Assessment No.
168301).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
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16 RLH TA 15-534 Deleting the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 613
IGLEHART AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thao
Kim Bennet, Occupant, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued for tall grass & weeds Jul 31; compliance Aug 4;
re-checked Aug 6
-work done Aug 10 for a cost of $160 + $160 service charge = $320
-no returned mail
-sent to Kenneth Driver, 751 Piedmont Ave NE, Apt 5, Atlanta GA; Kenneth Driver
5614 Twin Lake Terrace N, Crystal, MN and to Occupant
Ms. Bennet:
-she did receive the notice on a Fri when she came home from work
-is here to inquire
VIDEO -
-that's not on her property; she's on the other side
-Mr. Driver owns it; she's the Occupant; the bill should go to 615 Iglehart, Daniel
Acker, N2265 Curtis Rd, Stanley WI
Ms. Seeley:
-she's right
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend this assessment is deleted
Delete.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
17 RLH TA 15-550 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 122
LYTON PLACE (File No. J1602B, Assessment No. 168101).
Sponsors: Thao
Max Elkin, owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly, Vacant Buildings:
-an emergency boarding occurred at the request of the Fire Dept on Jul 9; another
boarding occurred on Jul 10 because upon re-inspection the next day by Inspector
Kalis, he called RESPRO again after he discovered that the boards have been
forcibly removed after the original boarding had taken place the day before
-total of the 2 boarding is $733.40 + $280 service charge = $1,013.40
-entered the VB Program Jan 7, 2014
-history of Orders at the property is attached
-does not have a Fire Report back yet
Mr. Elkin:
-originally, he didn't know that the Fire Dept had ordered the boarding; then, he
wondered why the building hadn't been boarded before since it had been vacant for
months before he purchased it; once he purchased it, it was posted; and it hadn't
been registered as a VB either; so, that fell on us, too
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-in addition, we were told that we couldn't touch the building because it had been
posted by DSI and no one could be in there or do anything until a code inspection
had been done
-they ordered the code compliance inspection as soon as they bought it; it took DSI a
month to get the inspection done
-after they purchase it, they found out that a homeless person had been living in it;
every time they found a window broken, they boarded it; but then, she'd find another
way in; they called SPPD several times trying to scare her out
-finally, there was a fire and he was informed about it; when they got there, they
found that the back door had been boarded and 1 window; as soon as he knew there
was a problem there, he sent his people out to board the rest of the house; he is
trying to understand how there could have been 2 trips made to board when they had
boarded; he can bring his people in as witnesses
-he received no notification at any time that he should board or do anything about this
- it all happened without his knowledge; he did, however, voluntarily, send people out
to board the rest of the building after the fire
-first of all, for boarding a back door and a window, the cost seems excessive
-secondly, at no time, was he ever instructed to do any boarding of any kind; so, it
was done and after the fact, they charged me for the boarding
Ms. Moermond:
-explained that it's standard for SPPD and Fire Dept to call RESPRO after a fire to
have the property boarded or if they were there investigating something else, like a
break-in because they can't leave the scene unsecured; they have a responsibility to
close it up (an emergency boarding); this is usually covered by insurance
Mr. Yannarelly:
-he asked Inspector Kalis about this - why he had called for another boarding right
away the next day after the fire and he said that he had been aware of this homeless
person coming into this house and he wanted to make sure that she or no one else
would be entering
-entered the 2 invoices from RESPRO; made copies for Mr. Elkin
-he is not happy with them charging $250 emergency charge the second day; often
don't do that; he's going to look into that and re-negotiate
Ms. Moermond:
-Jul 9 invoice shows that they boarded 7 openings and there's an emergency call out
fee (night) $250
-Jul 10 invoice shows that they boarded the east window and re-secured the back
door
-technically, they should not be charging the emergency charge of $250; it's
excessive; that particular part, she will cut in half ($125)
Mr. Elkin:
-he is puzzled about 2 things: 1) as he recall, the posting on the building said that no
one should do anything to the building; so, even if he wanted to board it, it was his
understanding, that he was prohibited from doing anything to the building until the
inspection was done and it was registered; there were several placards on the
building; and 2) he found out the next morning that this fire happened, he went out
there and 1 window and 1 door had been boarded; so, this thing about 7 openings
being boarded really puzzles him; he has not only witnesses but workers who will say
that we went out there and voluntarily, boarded the house for their own protection
Ms. Moermond:
-wants Mr. Elkin to put something in writing from his people - contractors that he used
- to tell her exactly when they did exactly what
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-she needs to sort out when things were done and undone and redone
-she needs documentation from RESPRO and the Fire Dept
-will Lay this Over for 1 month to allow those pieces to fall into place
-LO to Dec 1, 2015 LH
Layover to get written statement from owner's contractor who he indicated did the
boarding and for fire report(s) and something in writing from Restoration
Professionals.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 12/1/2015
18 RLH TA 15-542 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 348
MARIA AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Appprove; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
19 RLH TA 15-525 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1113
MARION STEET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Jennifer Patraw appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement issued Jul 29; compliance Aug 4; re-checked Aug 4
-work done Aug 5, 2015 for a cost of $372 + $160 = $532
-property has history
-sent to Tom Delisle/Delisle, PO Box 17122, St. Paul; Beverly L. Breault, 113 Marion
St; and Occupant
-remove refuse from side porch and backyard
Ms. Patraw:
-asked to see the video
VIDEO - city removed loose, scattered litter, brush, garbage bags, pails, baskets,
trash
Ms. Patraw:
-she was unclear as to who had done all of that because she had receipts for
dumpsters that they had ordered during that time
-if you guys removed all that, I don't know why we were paying for dumpsters
-when we do a cancellation of a Contract for Deed, they legally have an amount of
time to redeem themselves
Ms. Moermond:
-she hasn't seen a contract yet that says that the mortgage holder doesn't have the
right to go in there and take care of this business - to clean up that mess; you do
have that right
-will recommend approval
Approve.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
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20 RLH TA 15-529 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 767
MARYLAND AVENUE EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No.
168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
21 RLH TA 15-549 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 594
REANEY AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
22 RLH TA 15-527 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1651
ROSS AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
23 RLH TA 15-543 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1198
SHERBURNE AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Stark
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
24 RLH TA 15-544 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 697
STRYKER AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
25 RLH TA 15-545 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 324
SUPERIOR STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Brian W. Smith, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Aug 17, 2015; compliance Aug 25; re-checked
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Aug 25
-work done Aug 27 for a cost of $158 + $160 service charge = $318
-no returned mail
-also issued a Correction Notice on Aug 17 for repairing retaining wall; Orders don't
say a lot
-photo
-history: SA Apr 20, 2014; the photo indicates that the yard was quite a mess; again
back in 2006
Mr. Smith:
-on Aug 25, he took in 640 lbs of scrap metal to metal recycling, so, the inspector
apparently, came in the morning before he loaded the metal; what they came and
cleaned up 2 days later was not on the Order; they really had to look at things to pick
up
VIDEO - scrap lumber, scrap metal, loose and scattered debris
Ms. Moermond:
-looks like the retaining wall's been taken care of
Mr. Smith:
-he called the inspector because the clean-up crew took some window weights that
he was using to hold down a part; he said that he didn't know
-the original complaint was by a citizen, who happens to be a stone mason, about the
condition of the wall behind his property, which is not even on his property; but he
has to look at so he fixed it himself; the inspector offered to give me the number of
this fellow
-he tried to be a scrapper but he found that it really doesn't pay
-he is not scrapping any more
Ms. Moermond:
-here's her dilemma: you addressed a ton of what was going on but there was
obviously stuff still there; you made a lot of progress; she wants to give you credit for
what you did; part of it is that you are not looking at a huge assessment; it could have
been a lot bigger
-this is a repeat problem, however
Mr. Smith:
-he's not storing any more scrap metal outdoors
-he's done with scrapping
Ms. Moermond:
-you made a good faith effort
-will recommend cutting this assessment in half
-scrapping is illegal on residential property
Reduce from $318 to $159.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
26 RLH TA 15-546 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1220
SYLVAN STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Scott Pietig, 1220 Sylvan LLC, owner and property manager, appeared.
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Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Aug 3; compliance Aug 10; re-checked Aug 10
-work done Aug 12 for a cost of $324 + $160 = $484
-no returned mail
-sent to 1220 Sylvan LLC, 2025 Nicollet Ave Ste 202, Mpls and Occupant
-in caps: Remove mattresses, cabinet, RB and refuse from around the dumpster
along Sylvan st
Mr. Pietig:
-alerted to this about 1 1/2 wks ago; he called Inspector Westenhofer - the days
overlap with the last time he was here; he said they were calling us; the last SA they
got had the correct phone number; this SA had a 516 number that has no relation to
us
VIDEO - city removed mattresses, chair along Sylvan St
Ms. Moermond:
-the last time you were here it was because of an Excessive Consumption fee
-she is not comfortable without having the minutes from the last LH you attended on
this address
-right now, you got a break on the EC, which is too many inspections; here, it's about
the furniture and mattresses being near the dumpster and not being taken care of in
the time provided and the city performed that service
Ms. Seeley:
-thinks there is confusion
-Apr 30, Sean did a SA on different mattresses; he sent a Work Order and it was
done by owner, which generated a PAEC
Ms. Moermond:
-so, what we talked about a couple of weeks ago was regarding the Apr 30 Order;
today, we are talking about an Aug 3 Order
Mr. Pietig:
-apologized
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend approval of this assessment
Approve.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
27 RLH TA 15-530 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1178
THOMAS AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Stark
Valerie Woelfel, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-Summary Abatement Order issued Aug 5; compliance Aug 14; re-checked Aug 14
-work done Aug 19 for a cost of $158 + $160 service charge = $318
-no returned mail
-no history on the property
-sent to Valerie Woelfel, 1178 Thomas Ave; and Occupant
-bold letters: dresser, household items, refuse, debris, lawn mower in rear yard
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-photo
Ms. Woelfel:
-she's an archaeologist and was out of the country from May 23 - Aug 17, 2015; she
returned to her house Aug 18
-she doesn't know whose stuff that was; assumed that it was people's who had
moved out across the alley from her; she had actually called on them in the past for
leaving stuff in the alley: chairs, etc.
-she had no idea this was happening and it wasn't her stuff
-she had arranged for having her bills paid, picking up her mail, etc., etc; but being so
close to her return, no one bothered to send that notice to her
-it didn't occur to her to have someone check the alley
Ms. Moermond:
-because there were no Orders for mowing the lawn or anything else, she's assuming
that someone else was taking care of all of that; you had been responsible about that
-you have taken positive steps to take care of most everything
-it does look like dumping
-will recommend deletion
Delete.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
28 RLH TA 15-552 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 310
WEBSTER STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Approve; no show.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
29 RLH TA 15-548 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 750
WESTERN AVENUE NORTH (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Thao
Seregela Abebe, tax owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-Category 2 Vacant Building fee; the file was opened Jul 7, 2009
-there's a new owner; new code compliance inspection report; permits are pulled
-18 Work Orders between 2009 and 2012; none in the last 3 years
-work is in progress
-annual VB fee is $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
Ms. Moermond:
-looks like you got a 90-day waiver on this
Mr. Abebe:
-purchased 4 months ago
-is almost finished; tomorrow he will have an inspection
-is finishing the outside before winter
Ms. Moermond:
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-if you can get this project done by the time it goes in front of the City Council on Jan
20, 2016, she will recommend the fee is cut in half
-she can also make it payable in 3 years
If owner can get repairs done by January 20, 2016 City Council Public hearing date,
hearing officer will recommend reducing it by half.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
30 RLH TA 15-553 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 418
WHEELOCK PARKWAY WEST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Rescheduled per owner's request.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/17/2015
31 RLH TA 15-554 Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1031
MINNEHAHA AVENUE EAST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Finney
Rajindre K, Bhoelai, owner, appeared.
Inspector Joe Yannarelly:
-this has been a Vacant Building since Dec 10, 2010
-previous owner was Ramsey Co Tax Forfeiture
-annual VB fee last year was cancelled but he has a notation that Ramsey Co Tax
Forfeiture paid $525 on Feb 25, 2015
-Sale approval happened Jul 8, 2015 when Mr. Bhoelai purchased the property; then,
the VB fee was assessed on Sep 4, 2015 for $2025 + $155 service charge = $2180
-there are 4 active permits
Mr. Bhoelai:
-bought it from a gentleman in Jul or Aug; he originally purchased it
-he had all his documents in a brief case in his truck; we were doing work at the
property and someone broke into the truck and took all the documents
-when he got this letter, he noticed that he wasn't even the owner at that time; should
he be liable for this fee?
-he took possession either in Jul or Aug
-he should be done with the project in 4-5 months - Mar 1, 2016
Ms. Moermond:
-this doesn't make sense
-we will treat this as having a Dec 10 anniversary date
-if you're done by Mar 1, 2016, she will cut down the fee
-will Lay this Over for 2 months from the Jan 20, CCPH
To be laid over for 2 months from January 20 Public Hearing.
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
Special Tax Assessments - Rolls
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32 RLH AR 15-83 Ratifying Boarding and/or Securing services from during July 2015.
(File No. J1602B, Assessment No. 168101)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
33 RLH AR 15-84 Ratifying Property Clean Up services during August 4 to 31, 2015. (File
No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
34 RLH AR 15-85 Ratifying Trash Hauling services during August 5 to 26, 2015. (File No.
J1603G, Assessment No. 168702)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
35 RLH AR 15-86 Ratifying Collection of Vacant Building Registration Fees billed during
February 23 to July 23, 2015. (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802)
Sponsors: Stark
Referred to the City Council due back on 1/20/2016
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
36 RLH SAO 15-73 Appeal of Richard M. Gruber to a Summary Abatement Order at 671
HAWTHORNE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Richard M. Gruber, owner, appeared.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-this is a Condemnation; she inspected Oct 6 and found the house to have excessive
clutter; windows, doors blocked and small walking paths
-took photos
-called Sade, House Calls; set up another time to do a re-inspection but no one was
home; she looked into the window and it didn't look like anything had been done;
Sade provided a $500 dumpster, which had been there 8+ days; there were only 4
cardboard boxes in that dumpster
-the Grubers still live in the house
-Inspector Steve Magner told her to send a Summary Abatement; he wants to have a
contractor clean out the house
Mr. Gruber:
-1576 Griggs address is where they intend to move but first some remodeling is
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taking place
-bought the 671 Hawthorne house in the fall of 1986 and moved into it before
Christmas that year
-the clutter that Ms. Seeley is talking about is newspapers and magazines, some
clothes; he didn't realize how much they had; they must have been collecting for 20
years or so
-he and helpers are loading the paper up and taking it to Waldorf to be recycled; he's
working on getting it all out of the house
-his wife has taken care of all of the clothes; it's gone
-it takes time; he can't get all the paper out in just a few days; they are getting it all
done
-he's asking for more time to take all of the paper to Waldorf
Ms. Moermond:
-asked why he didn't use the dumpster that he got for free from House Calls?
-she sees from the photos that you and your wife are hoarders; the place is
Condemned and the deadline was Oct 16 to get it all out or you would need to
vacate; you are still there
-then the dept. send through an Order saying that they want you to clean this out or
they are going to hire a contractor to do the clean-out of the inside of the house so
that it's habitable
-you want to do it all yourself and you want to continue to live there
Mr. Gruber:
-yes
-there were some things in the dumpster but all the paper is going to Waldorf
-the property on Griggs is being remodeled (kitchen-cabinets, etc.)
Ms. Moermond:
-you can have time to clean it out if you leave the property (she's not going to allow
continued occupation of this property in these circumstance) or you can clean it out
quickly and you can stay there; this is a dangerous circumstance; if there's a fire,,, it
could be trouble; all the paper will get wet and collapse the floors; people have died in
St. Paul with these types of circumstances
-we need to get this done more quickly; all that is very flammable
-sounds like you done't have operable smoke detectors and CO detectors
Mr. Gruber:
-there's a smoke detector in the hallway
-the kitchen is completely cleaned out
-the living room has a little left and soon, all of it will be gone
Ms. Seeley:
-thinks the smoke detector was chirping
-the house is a duplex; tenant upstairs; she hasn't inspected the upstairs unit
-there had been a fire there and they referred it to me
Ms. Moermond:
-asked why this wasn't cleared out by the deadline, Oct 16?
-asked how quickly he could get it cleaned out so that Inspector Seeley could walk
thru?
-have it cleaned out by Fri, Nov 6 and you can stay; if it's not cleaned out, you will
need to move out and the city will send in a crew; then, you can move back in again; I
need this resolved because there's too much risk
-Fri is the deadline; Inspector Seeley will be there Fri at 10:15 am; your previous
deadline has come and gone
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-if you want to work with Veterans' Services, give them a call; Sade, House Calls will
have that number
Grant until Friday, November 6 to come into compliance with the excessive storage
throughout.
FOLLOW-UP: Steve Magner called and asked for an extension on doing the clean
out of the house. The hope is that he will move to 1567 Griggs St N, his other
property. I told him we could forestall the clean-up if the other residence is habitable
and they move there. Inspector Seeley will be checking into that. We will have a
hearing on Tuesday November 17 on this matter. -MCM 11/9/15.
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/18/2015
37 RLH SAO 15-71 Appeal of Steven Cardenas For Marcos Cardenas to a Summary
Abatement Order at 585 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
Steven Cardenas appeared on behalf of his father, Marcos Cardenas.
Inspector Paula Seeley:
-got a complaint about a temporary tent; in Minnesota, they do not meet
specifications for the snow load
-sent Summary Abatement Order Oct 7: move tent and store contents property
Mr. Cardenas:
-he is his father's care giver and he lives here
-there are a lot of senior citizens in this area
-had the tent put up last year as a carport; it was convenient for his parents; he took
his mom to chemo 3 times a week; she passed; now, for his dad's medical problems
-he looked at MN residential uses and accessory zoning structures laws and it looked
as though it passed everything
-he brought up photos (scanned)
-has 20 signatures from his neighbors (scanned)
-inspector said that maybe people complained since it was a corner lot
Ms. Moermond:
-this doesn't actually qualify as a structure; it isn't a building; it's a tent and is
temporary; it's not permanent affixed to the ground; and as a temporary structure, it
can be there for 6 months; if longer, you have to go with a regular permit - you
wouldn't get on because it can't be connected to the ground and the roof wouldn't
meet snow load requirements (danger of collapse if there's too much snow on it)
-also, high wind can lift them away
Mr. Cardenas:
-he didn't see it as a problem
-he has 2 brothers and a sister who live with them, now; and he's the one who takes
care of the majority of what happens with the house/property because he's the
primary care giver
-the neighbors done see it as a problem
-he makes sure all the snow is removed
-2 other inspectors and a fire marshal came out and said that it wouldn't be an issue
-he would like to, at least, keep it thru the winter for convenience for his dad; he'll
take it down in the spring
Ms. Moermond:
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-a building, sided and roofed, a shed could be built; at least 10 x 18 (need a permit)
Mr. Cardenas:
-financially, his money is tied up; they had no insurance for his mom; and no one is
helping him out; he's trying to keep the house for his dad
-it's a car port; it works for our situation
-he took photos of a property 6 blocks away on which are 3 of these tents
-they've lived there for 40 years
-he will take it down in spring if he can leave it up over the winter....it's for his dad;
never know when he needs to go to the hospital
Ms. Moermond:
-needs to think about this one; is inclined to give you more time; the neighbors are in
support of your situation - that's positive
-she may extend the time he can leave it there
-was observed by Fire staff, who sent it over to Code Enforcement staff at the
beginning of Oct
-will put out a decision between now and next Tue
-will send you a letter
-City Council Public Hearing Nov 18, 2015
Recommendation is forthcoming.
Referred to the City Council due back on 11/18/2015
38 RLH SAO 15-75 Appeal of Antonio Grajeda and Kasandra Tidgwell to a Summary
Abatement Order at 569 LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Waiting to hear from Sean Westenhofer to see if issue(s) has been resolved and
appeal should be withdrawn. Owner was a no-show at hearing but then she showed
up after the hearing. Active permit on file for reroofing/residing of the garage.
Appeal withdrawn per Sean Westenhofer. Appellant to contact him by the end of
next week.
Withdrawn
39 RLH SAO 15-74 Appeal of Eric Schroeder to a Summary Abatement Order at 386
SARATOGA STREET SOUTH.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Eric Schroeder, owner, appeared.
Inspector Lisa Martin:
-complaint from Public Works re: a wooden structure on the blvd in the ROW
-Summary Abatement Order was sent Oct 21, 2015 to remove the structure by Nov
2, 2015
Ms. Moermond:
-looks like a short retaining wall type deal
Ms. Schroeder:
-that structure has been there between 5-7 years; it's not attached to the ground; it's
a flower bed
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-he doesn't remember exactly when it was put in
-for the record, he did ask neighbors and got their signatures
-there's a water dish for dogs
-photos
-he called Mr. Ross, who informed him that it came from anonymous complaint and
they had to follow-up on it
-it's a flower bed; not a nuisance
Ms. Moermond:
-she would call it a ROW encroachment; it was built in the ROW
-was there a permit from Public Works for it?
-there are regulations on the height of the plantings; looks like there's no issue on
that
-it's all about the timbers of the planter
-it look nice and neat - well maintained
-she will concern herself with the timbers that are close to the curb; maybe they're too
close for snow plows, perhaps
-suggested that Mr. Schroeder apply for a ROW encroachment permit from Public
Works to see if they'll OK it; if PW issues you a permit, we don't have an issue with
Code Enforcement; if they don't issue a permit, you will appeal the permit and you'll
will end up back here again, so, we can take another look at it
-will Lay this Over to Dec 15, 2015 to give you time to find the result of the ROW
encroachment permit application
-it might be frozen in the ground by then and you wouldn't be able to work on it until
spring
Owner was advised to apply for ROW encroachment permit.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 12/15/2015
Correction Orders
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
40 RLH FCO Appeal of Jeff Swanson of Havenbrook Homes to a Fire Certificate of
15-292 Occupancy Correction Notice at 1012 BEECH STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
Jeff Swanson, construction manager, Havenbrook Homes, appeared.
Fire Inspector A. J. Neis:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice re: complaint received Oct 6 about a
deteriorating retaining wall on the east side of the property
-Inspector Efrayn Franquiz went out and issued an Order to repair and maintain the
fence and retaining wall with a compliance date of Oct 30, 2015
-appeal: the question of whose retaining wall is it?
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Mr. Swanson:
-the only way to fix the wall is to replace the wall; it runs about 150 feet - it's a big job;
it's also tricky because there's not a lot of room to work between those 2 houses; it's
an expensive job, as well
-before he replaces it, he wants to make sure that it's his wall; he has to pay for a
survey; he has applied for one and it should come within the next week or so;
however, getting the wall done may/may not happen this fall, depending on the
weather
-the aerial map shows that the wall is ours; however, it may not be accurate
-the neighbor's roof overhangs onto our property
-the wall is only 18 - 24 inches tall
Ms. Moermond:
-the document that she has also looks as though the wall is Mr. Swanson's
-the wall may be directly on the property line
-we absolutely need to see the survey in order to make a decision
-there's danger of the wall collapsing and becoming a trip hazard; also, creating an
erosion possibility, which eventually would undermine the neighbor's foundation;
there are things you can do to stabilize the soils while we're waiting for spring to
come
-inclined to wait until spring
-will Lay this Over for 2 weeks to Nov 16, LH
-you can email us to let us know what you find out from the survey
Layover to get survey done.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/17/2015
41 RLH FCO Appeal of Wayne Warnest of St. Stephanus Lutheran Church to a Fire
15-295 Inspection Correction Notice at 739 LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Wayne Warnest, Facilities Manager, St. Stephanus Lutheran Church, appeared.
Fire Inspector A. J. Neis:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice by Fire Inspection Mitch Imbertson
-appealed is the travel of door swing near the altar area of the church; while that is
clearly a violation to the current code, this door appears to have been in existence for
a very long time (possibly original); however, we don't have a good solution for
making it code complaint
-senior staff would not object if the appeal is granted
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend this appeal be granted
Mr. Warnest:
-the church is inspected either yearly or every other year
-this door has been there for close to 100 years and has gone thru many inspections
-Inspector Imbertson thought that there may be a variance allowing it
-it's a unique situation; to change it would have been major work
Ms. Moermond:
Grant the appeal.
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Referred to the City Council due back on 12/2/2015
42 RLH FCO Appeal of Peter Riemenschneider to a Correction Notice - Complaint
15-298 Inspection at 674 LAWSON AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Peter Riemenschneider, JPR Flats LLC, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector A.J. Neis:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice
-Unit 5 in the basement: ceiling height is 6'10" in 99% of the floor area
-sent to our office as either a complaint or referral
Mr. Riemenschneider:
-bought building in Feb 2015; it had already had a Certificate of Occupancy
-when they went to rent it out to a Section 8 tenant, they noted that the ceiling ht was
lower than code required
-they tried to get a variance from the city, which was rejected
-photos
-it's a very well done finished basement
Ms. Moermond:
-will recommend granting the appeal
-the Fire Code is being modified where this would not be a violation anymore
-we will send the minutes to the Public Housing Section 8 person; they and the city
will both have it in their records
-you will get a letter
Grant the appeal.
Referred to the City Council due back on 12/2/2015
43 RLH FCO Appeal of Raymond Simpson to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at
15-296 1350 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Raymond Simpson, Phalen Apartments LLC, owner, appeared.
Fire Inspector A.J. Neis:
-Fire Certificate of Occupancy Correction Notice conducted by Fire Inspector Efrayn
Franquiz
-all 18 units were inspected
-it's a long list and 10 items are being appealed
-each item should be discussed; he had questions on some of these
-photos
-#2 exterior paint is chipping, peeling on white pillars; Appellant is asking for an
extension to spring
Ms. Moermond:
-repair any opening now; will grant an extension to Jun 1, 2016 on the exterior
painting
Mr. Neis:
-#4 extermination for mice-DONE
-#5 tightened knobs on doors-DONE
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-#10 smoke detector missing-empty bracket-WITHDRAWN (inspector error)
-#14 maximum number of locks-WITHDRAWN (inspector error); can't be hook&eye;
can be a chain lock or a door knob lock
Mr. Simpson:
-would like an explanation of the point system (will be sorted out at the end)
Mr. Neis:
-#16 clean & sanitary condition (aluminum foil on range- he would need to see a
photo of this; it's common in rental units to put foil on the ranges because they don't
want to pay a damage deposit for getting grease on the ranges but foil can burn) Mr.
Simpson: tenants replace the foil as it gets dirty; he doesn't allow them to line the
burner; they put it on the walls around the range area - Neis: that's no problem -
WITHDRAWN
-#23 door open freely in living room; large opening under unit entry door; Mr.
Simpson: from the outside of the door, it may look as though the opening is 1-1 1/2
inches; however, there's carpet on the inside and if the door is too low, the carpet will
restrict the door from opening properly; the hallway is heated
-looking at the photo, he thinks the door meets the intent of the code; Mr. Neis / Ms.
Shaff will go out and take a look at this
Ms. Moermond:
-there will be a follow-up inspection; at that point, we can look at it; don't see a photo
that covers the door of #202
-Mai Vang is getting the photos from Oct 30 so we can see if one is among them
Mr. Neis:
-#30 wall - wall carpeting, yet there's a large piece of vinyl on top of it -
WITHDRAWN; he sees this quite frequently; tenants want to keep the carpet clean
so, they put a loose laid laminate floor piece over a section of carpet that may get
dirty easily; this tenant is a Keran Family from Myanmar
-#31 similar to #23; he will have to look at that one, too
Ms. Moermond:
-looking at the Oct 30 photos; few more were taken Nov 3
-Sep 8 was a complaint-based inspection; this inspection was made Oct 14
-let's talk points
Mr. Neis:
-total number of points on the building was 160 for the items being appealed (all 18
units were inspected); in order to get a Class A grade, you need fewer than 90 points
-#4-extermination addressed
Mr. Simpson:
-the extermination was addressed prior to the inspection; he emailed the
extermination documentation (Mr. Neis: the points for #4 = 6 pts; the inspector never
closed the violation; his notes say that he transferred the violation to Fire C of O); Mr.
Simpson: that aside, the reinspection date was Oct 9 and I had everything taken care
of by then and he didn't show up
Mr. Neis:
-#4 = 6 pts
-#12 = 2 pts
-#13 = 4 pts
-#14 = 4 pts
-#10 = 0 pts - (discrepancy in the system; it's supposed to be 10 pts)
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-#16 = 6 pts
-#30 = 4 pts
Ms. Moermond:
-total 28 pts and the doors are still not counted; (#23 = 4 pts)
Mr. Neis:
-he will need to look at that more closely
Ms. Moermond:
-a lot of things are already done; some are not under appeal and we have
withdrawals
-extension to Jun 1, 2016 for painting
-we are in agreement that the current deadline, Dec 1, 2015, re-inspection is fine; the
doors will be checked out at that time, as well
All items to be done by December 1, 2015 with the exception of the painting which
has been granted until June 1, 2016. Inspector will revisit Items 23 and 31 relating to
the doors for Units 202 and 302. Items 10, 14, 16, 30 have been withdrawn from the
existing Order per Supervisor Neis noting that the item(s) may be re-issued with
correct language.
Referred to the City Council due back on 12/2/2015
44 RLH FCO Appeal of Susan F. Willis to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 601
15-288 PARK STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
deny the appeal; no one appeared.
Owner called and stated missed hearing due to a death in the family. Rescheduled
to November 17 at 1:30 p.m.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/17/2015
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
45 RLH VBR 15-96 Appeal of Sharon Bruestle, representing Palm Bay, to a Vacant
Building Registration Notice at 1128 MAGNOLIA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Appeal withdrawn by Vacant Building inspector. Fire inspector is working with owner
on Fire Correction Order.
Withdrawn
46 RLH VBR 15-94 Appeal of Matt Folkerds/ Dok.LLC to a Vacant Building Registration
Renewal Notice at 134 MARIA AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Deny the appeal; no show. Owner called to reschedule and was denied; he was
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rescheduled twice.
Referred to the City Council due back on 12/16/2015
47 RLH VBR 15-91 Appeal of Nancy Barnes to a Vacant Building Registration
Requirement at 1159 PASCAL STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Stark
Nancy Barnes, owner, appeared.
Ms. Moermond:
-we have been at this for a while and it doesn't get easier; there are fewer options the
longer we go; it's been a hard one
-we have a Condemned building/owner occupied
-the main problem here is the spiral staircase up the middle of the house; the
openings that provides it decreases the structural stability and allows for fire to more
between the floors rapidly; not adequate separation, amongst other things; big
structural issues
Fire Inspector A.J. Neis:
-we had the city structural engineer, Brian Karpen, go out; he gave a staff report
-previously, the Condemnation was given a deadline to complete the Orders by Sep
1, 2015; then, an extension was given to mid-Sep if they could provide an approved
plan to get the work done
Ms. Barnes:
-her father went into the hospital; the attorney was working with my father; then, her
father signed the house over to her so that she could get funding to fix the house
-the problem was that the title didn't come until the last week of Aug, 2015, which left
1 week.... (Ms. Moermond: which is why you got an extension)
-I didn't know about that; my father got sick 3 days later and everything stopped until
he was well enough to sign the house over to her
-she talked with several people and is on several waiting lists for funding
Ms. Moermond:
-got a call this morning from Michelle Vojacek, PED, who said that for the program
that's relevant here, they would have up to $25,000; however, they haven't yet
received all the information needed from you
Ms. Barnes:
-because when the sticker went into the window, all her mail stopped; it didn't come
until after Sunday; the application was in there and the title - everything that I needed
to send to her
Ms. Moermond:
-Ms. Vojacek said that if the building is Condemned, the HUD money that PED's
program would have used, they can't use because of the Condemnation (HUD
money can't be spent on houses that are Condemned or are empty; so, you would
not qualify for those funds for just that reason
Ms. Barnes:
-Neighborhood Works has agreed to help her as well as Rebuild Twin Cities
Together; she is on their waiting lists and she can't make it go any faster
-you said that you would expedite the title the first time we were here and that never
happened; and it was months and months before it finally came
-all I need is a chance to get it done
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Ms. Moermond:
-I couldn't
-the question is "Can you stay in there while we wait on that chance?"
Ms. Barnes:
-according to the structural engineer and he stated in his report that there doesn't
seem to be an imminent structural issue; he does state that it needs to be taken care
of in a necessary amount of time; his first sentence says that he doesn't see an
immediate danger
-she has fixed many things on the list - except for those that she can't personally do
Mr. Neis:
-he has not been out to re-inspect; there was no need because there had been no
permits pulled on file
-he consulted with Ms. Moermond's office around Sep 15 and you said that you had
not heard from the Appellant's family attorney, David Front; therefore, once that
deadline had come and gone, he sent an email to Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings,
that the deadline, Oct 1, had come and gone and the documentation hadn't been
received, so they needed to placard the building as a Registered Vacant Building
Ms. Barnes:
-I never got anything about Oct 1
-she has the letter that came with the title, letter from David Front to her father and it
says, "Your daughter, Nancy, should follow-up with them to ensure that she can
move forward with any necessary remodeling work." She did call and let somebody
know that she was trying to get funding
-she wasn't sitting on her hands; the delay was because of the title not coming
Mr. Neis:
-this was an email sent Aug 31 to David Front, Attorney representing the son (not the
father or daughter) and that the son was intending to have the property transferred to
his own name and have the work done
-there was consultation with City Council to see if they would be willing to reconsider
the initial Vacate date and give them a new deadline/extension, which was done
-the son was given 2 weeks to get the title transferred into his own name and develop
a Work Plan for the property; the son indicted that he was able to do the repairs
himself; the attorney was advised that they would need a structural analysis, as well,
and that if only those 2 items were addressed in the next 2 weeks and DSI was
satisfied, we would consider giving a further extension for the work to be done; if that
work were not done or was found that the analysis was unacceptable, the Vacate
date would be Oct 1.
-he believes that all this was communicated through their attorney
Ms. Moermond:
-how many children live there?
-asked Mr. Neis if he could go out, take a look and make an assessment of the
situation
Ms. Barnes:
-three; 2 are 15; 1 is 17
-nothing major has been done
Ms. Moermond:
-Ms. Barnes needs to be working with the House Calls Program
-we are going to be talking about emptying this building; it's a matter of when; the
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only thing that will stop that is a plan from a funding source
-have Neighborhood Works and Rebuild Twin Cities Together give me a call ASAP
and we can talk about the situation - that this is a pressing situation for you; if they
are using HUD $$, they'll be in the same place as the city; if they are not using HUD
$$, they have more flexibility to work on this
-you will talk with them within this next week to get them to call me
-Inspector Neis and Mr. Karpen will go and check things out
-will LAY this OVER for 2 weeks to Nov 17
-she wants to hear from the potential lenders by Nov 16
-we will send you a letter
Inspector Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings:
-we have a Vacant Building fee coming soon
Ms. Moermond:
-will consider the VB fee under the Nov 16 appeal; allow occupancy for 2 more weeks
Layover so that owner can continue to find funding for the repairs. If funding is
available, Ms. Moermond asked that a work plan for costs and timelines be
submitted. Fire Supervisor AJ Neis and Structural Engineer Brian Karpen will revisit
the site for an update on conditions of the home.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/17/2015
48 RLH VBR 15-98 Appeal of Nachman Goldberg to a Vacant Building Registration Fee
Warning Letter Requirement at 1809 YORKSHIRE AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Rescheduled per owner's request.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 11/10/2015
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15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
1 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 923
15-536 AGATE STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 923 Agate St.SA 7-31-15
923 Agate St.Photos 8-6-15
2 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1245
15-537 ARKWRIGHT STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1245 Arkwright St.SA 8-3-15
1245 Arkwright St.Photos 8-3-15
1245 Arkwright St.Photos.8-7-15
1245 Arkwright St.Photos #2.8-7-15
3 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 164
15-538 ARLINGTON AVENUE WEST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No.
168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 164 Arlington Ave W.SA 8-7-15
164 Arlington Ave W.Photos 8-14-15
4 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1038
15-531 BAYARD AVENUE (File No. CRT1602, Assessment No. 168201 ).
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 1038 Bayard Ave.Fee Invoice.5-19-15
1038 Bayard Ave. Final Invoice.6-18-15
5 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 994
15-528 BURR STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
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Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 994 BURR STREET. SUMMARY ABATEMENT. 7-24-15
994 BURR ST.PHOTOS.7-24-15
994 BURR ST.PHOTOS.7-31-15
6 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 242
15-540 CONGRESS STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
(Note: other address for this property is 469 Anita Street.)
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 242 Congress St.SA 8-5-15
242 Congress St.Photo 8-12-15
7 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 963
15-519 CONWAY STREET (File No. J1601B, Assessment No. 168100).
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 963 Conway St.Respro Invoice.6-15-15
963 Conway St.Boarding Up Letter.6-19-15
963 Conway St.Dodd Ltr.10-19-15
963 Conway Ave.Police Report.6-11-15
8 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1529
15-539 DALE STREET NORTH (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1529 Dale St N.TG&W Ltr 8-17-15
1529 Dale St N.Photos 8-25-15
9 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1102
15-541 EDGERTON STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1102 Edgerton St.SA 7-31-15
1102 Edgerton St.Photo 8-7-15
10 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1183
15-526 FIFTH STREET EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 1183 Fifth St E.TGW Order.8-11-15
1183 Fifth St E.Photos.8-19-15
11 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 668
15-532 FOURTH STEET EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 668 Fourth St E.Summary Abatement Order.8-4-15
668 Fourth St E.Photos.8-4-15
668 Fourth St.Smith Email.10-30-15
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12 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 419
15-535 FRY STREET (File No. VB1603, Assessment No. 168802).
Sponsors: Stark
13 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1364
15-551 GALTIER STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1364 Galtier St.SAO.7-10-15
1364 Galtier St.Photos.8-7-15
14 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1377
15-547 HOYT AVENUE EAST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No. 168802).
Sponsors: Bostrom
15 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 607
15-524 HYACINTH AVENUE EAST (File No. J1602E, Assessment No.
168301).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 617 Hyacinth Ave E.Summary Abatement Order.5-13-15
607 Hyacinth Ave E.EC Ltr.5-27-15
607 Hyacinth Ave E.Photos.5-26-15
16 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 613
15-534 IGLEHART AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 613 Iglehart Ave.TGW Letter.7-31-15
613 Iglehart Ave.Photos.8-7-15
17 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 122
15-550 LYTON PLACE (File No. J1602B, Assessment No. 168101).
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 122 Lyton Pl.Respro Invoice. 7-14-15
18 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 348
15-542 MARIA AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 348 Maria Ave.SA 8-3-15
348 Maria Ave.Photo 8-7-15
348 Maria Ave.Photo 8-10-15
19 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1113
15-525 MARION STEET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1113 MARION STREET. SUMMARY ABATEMENT. 7-29-15
1113 MARION ST.PHOTOS.8-4-15
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20 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 767
15-529 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST (File No. J1603A, Assessment No.
168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 767 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST. SUMMARY ABATEMENT. 8-7-15
767 MARYLAND AVE E.PHOTOS.8-11-15
21 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 594
15-549 REANEY AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 594 Reaney Ave.SA 8-12-15
22 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1651
15-527 ROSS AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 1651 Ross Ave.SAO.8-19-15
1651 Ross Ave.Photos.8-25-15
23 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1198
15-543 SHERBURNE AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: 1198 Sherburne Ave.SA 8-27-15
1198 Sherburne Ave.Photos 8-27-15
24 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 697
15-544 STRYKER AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 697 Stryker Ave.SA 8-12-15
697 Stryker Ave.Photo 8-12-15
697 Stryker Ave.Letter from PO 10-25-15
25 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 324
15-545 SUPERIOR STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 324 Superior St.SA 8-17-15
324 Superior St.Photos 8-25-15
26 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1220
15-546 SYLVAN STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1220 Sylvan St.SA 8-3-15
1220 Sylvan St.Photos 8-10-15
27 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1178
15-530 THOMAS AVENUE (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Stark
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Attachments: 1178 THOMAS AVENUE. SUMMARY ABATEMENT. 8-5-15
1178 THOMAS AVE.PHOTOS.8-18-15
28 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 310
15-552 WEBSTER STREET (File No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502).
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 310 Webster St.TGW Letter.8-20-15
310 Webster St.TGW Photo.8-25-15
29 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 750
15-548 WESTERN AVENUE NORTH (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Thao
30 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 418
15-553 WHEELOCK PARKWAY WEST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Brendmoen
31 RLH TA Ratifying the Appealed Special Tax Assessment for Property at 1031
15-554 MINNEHAHA AVENUE EAST (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802).
Sponsors: Finney
Special Tax Assessments - Rolls
32 RLH AR Ratifying Boarding and/or Securing services from during July 2015. (File
15-83 No. J1602B, Assessment No. 168101)
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Assessment Roll
33 RLH AR Ratifying Property Clean Up services during August 4 to 31, 2015. (File
15-84 No. J1603A, Assessment No. 168502)
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Assessment Roll
34 RLH AR Ratifying Trash Hauling services during August 5 to 26, 2015. (File No.
15-85 J1603G, Assessment No. 168702)
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Assessment Roll
35 RLH AR Ratifying Collection of Vacant Building Registration Fees billed during
15-86 February 23 to July 23, 2015. (File No. VB1603, Assessment No.
168802)
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: Assessment Roll
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11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
37 RLH SAO Appeal of Steven Cardenas For Marcos Cardenas to a Summary
15-71 Abatement Order at 585 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thune
Attachments: 585 Jefferson Ave Appeal 10-22-15
38 RLH SAO Appeal of Antonio Grajeda and Kasandra Tidgwell to a Summary
15-75 Abatement Order at 569 LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 569 Lafond Ave Appeal 10-26-15
39 RLH SAO Appeal of Eric Schroeder to a Summary Abatement Order at 386
15-74 SARATOGA STREET SOUTH.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 386 Saratoga Street S Appeal 10-26-15
Correction Orders
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
40 RLH FCO Appeal of Jeff Swanson of Havenbrook Homes to a Fire Certificate of
15-292 Occupancy Correction Notice at 1012 BEECH STREET.
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 1012 Beech St Appeal 10-26-15
1012 Beech St.Photos.10-8-15
1012 Beech St.Aerial Photo w Plat Line
41 RLH FCO Appeal of Wayne Warnest of St. Stephanus Lutheran Church to a Fire
15-295 Inspection Correction Notice at 739 LAFOND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 739 Lafond Ave Appeal 10-27-15
42 RLH FCO Appeal of Peter Riemenschneider to a Correction Notice - Complaint
15-298 Inspection at 674 LAWSON AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
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Attachments: 674 Lawson Ave E Appeal 10-28-15
674 Lawson Ave E.Photos.10-15-15
43 RLH FCO Appeal of Raymond Simpson to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at
15-296 1350 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1350 Maryland Ave E Appeal 10-28-15
1350 Maryland Ave E.Photos #1.10-30-15
1350 Maryland Ave E.Photos #2.10-30-15
1350 Maryland Ave E.Photos.11-3-15
44 RLH FCO Appeal of Susan F. Willis to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 601
15-288 PARK STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 601 Park St Appeal 10-22-15
601 Park St.Photos.10-23-15
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
45 RLH VBR Appeal of Sharon Bruestle, representing Palm Bay, to a Vacant Building
15-96 Registration Notice at 1128 MAGNOLIA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1128 Magnolia Ave E.appeal.10-21-15
46 RLH VBR Appeal of Matt Folkerds/ Dok.LLC to a Vacant Building Registration
15-94 Renewal Notice at 134 MARIA AVENUE.
Sponsors: Finney
Attachments: 134 Maria Avenue N Appeal 10-15-15
47 RLH VBR Appeal of Nancy Barnes to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement
15-91 at 1159 PASCAL STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Stark
Attachments: 1159 Pascal St. N appeal 10-09-15
1159 Pascal St N.Photos #1.3-24-15
1159 Pascal St N.Photos #2.3-24-15
48 RLH VBR Appeal of Nachman Goldberg to a Vacant Building Registration Fee
15-98 Warning Letter Requirement at 1809 YORKSHIRE AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 1809 Yorkshire Ave Appeal 10-28-15
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