Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · March 27, 2018
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Minutes - Action Only
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR 18-11 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 521-523
DESNOYER AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the March 14, 2018 City
Council public hearing. (Public hearing continued from March 14) (Legislative
Hearing on March 27)
Sponsors: Henningson
Jeff Chermak, proposed buyer, appeared.
Drew Ross, Joyce Perrin & Richard Howey, Linda Van Egeran & Steven Mose,
neighbors also appeared.
Ms. Moermond: today, I was looking for: 1) the taxes to be paid; 2) $5000
Performance Deposit posted; and 3) an indication of financing sufficient to complete
the rehab, which has coat tails on it because you are doing some sort of financial
transaction between you & Mr. Olson; I need that in the record in addition to the fact
that you have the actual money (any financial/contractual agreement you have with Mr.
Olson, I need to have on the record)
Mr. Chermak: the security is this property & another property; because we can't
purchase this property, there's basically a loan going to Mr. Olson that he's been using
to hire us to rehab the property; that loan is secured by that property & another
property; I gave that signed document to you the last time we met here
Steve Magner, Code Enforcement Manager: I do have a recollection of them
submitting that document
-a letter was sent out Mar 15 to Jay Olson (attached); on Mar 13, LHO Marcia
Moermond recommended to continue to matter today, Tue, Mar 27, 2018 & for the
following conditions to be met:
1. provide a revised work plan, in accordance with the Code Compliance Inspection
Report;
2. provide signed contractor bids; and
3. provide an affidavit dedicating the funds from the US Bank account for the project.
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Scheduled to go to City Council Public Hearing Mar 28, 2018 at 3:30pm
Ms. Moermond: I guess I was looking at an older document
Mr. Ross: I want to confirm with Mr. Magner that I recollect that the agreement was left
with you 2 weeks ago
Ms. Moermond: yes; I do have the actual signed documents in front of me
Mr. Chermak: the sworn construction statement was not able to be completed
because there was no code compliance report; I received it last Fri (inspection was
done Mar 20, 2018); there are no surprises in it; I think that everything within the
building was covered by the previous bids; (electrical covered the code camp/ report;
we had to go back to the plumbing & get a revised bid from them, which I haven't yet
received; HVAC was basically the same as what was covered in the code camp/
report)
Mr. Magner: what plumbing issue was not addressed in the original bid?
Mr. Chermak: raising the meter 12 inches above the slab; & the matter of a clean out
before each horizontal take off
Mr. Magner: those are not major things; probably add $1000 onto the bid
Mr. Chermak: I do have a signed bid of the previous version & we have an agreement
to add on
Ms. Moermond: do you have the bids with you today?
Mr. Chermak: I do (entered); Ms. Moermond is reviewing them
Ms. Moermond: this goes in front of Council tomorrow
-what's the name of the person yoU're working with at INTECHS?
Mr. Chermak: the contractor's name is Jim Cotroneo
Ms. Moermond: $3900 plumbing bid; $9650 electrical bid; heating - 2 new
furnaces-$3990/unit (Behm); your general is INTECHS (only variable), which is that I
have applied for my own contractor license with the State of MN; I have a QB#, which
is how they track me in their system but they have not issued me a BC#, which is a
building contractor number; I have all the course work, etc, done; just waiting for the
email with my numbers; it may be our own LLC doing the contractor or it may be
INTECHS
Mr. Magner: I think these are the same that I have; the electrical is different; from a
staffs concern, I don't think there's any issue there
Ms. Moermond: what's your thought about changing contractors mid-stream?
Mr. Magner: my assumption is that Mr. Chermak is going to do it for less money than
his contractor; so, from a money standpoint, there's not much to do; the reality is that
if he fails to perform, the simple act of the city razing the structure puts his money in
jeopardy; the loan that he's giving to Jay Olson to pay him back to do this work is
predicated on both this property & another property; so, there's a fairly large financial
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incentive to get this completed; if we don't go forward with this, then, we're back with
Mr. Olson in charge of these properties & he's proven over time that he takes no
action; Mr. Chermak has come to the table under some difficult circumstances & has
gotten to the point where he's clearly able to rehabilitate these; if not, we'll be back
here reviewing what's happened & we can change our resolution to remove the
structure -problem solved; nuisance abated; I just don't think it will come to that; I
think they're going to get it done; and this is 2018 and there's a huge demand for
housing
Ms. Moermond: you're making some really good points, some logical points about this
situation; I'm looking at a history, a pattern of ownership & maintenance that's not
logical; I'm looking at continued ownership by Jay Olson for the next 6 months or until
the project is completed & the mortgage is finished; Mr. Olson is still a factor, a wild
card in my view because of his past actions/inactions
Mr. Chermak: a detailed Work Plan was submitted, which offered a breakout timeline;
we don't have to worry about other projects; this is our only one at this time
-my end goal is to get the neighborhood back on track
Ms. Moermond: Get me that sworn construction statement within a week with bids &
timeline
-will recommend granting 180 days
(Discussion followed with neighbors regarding Mr. Olson's other properties in Desnoyer
Park.)
Remove or repair within 180 days.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/28/2018
2 RLH RR 18-3 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 735
MARGARET STREET within fifteen (15) days after the February 14, 2018,
City Council public hearing. (Public hearing continued from February 14)
Sponsors: Prince
Forthcoming.
No one appeared.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/4/2018
3 RLH RR 18-2 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 1536
VAN BUREN AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the February 14, 2018,
City Council public hearing. (Amend to remove within 15 days with no option
for rehabilitation)
Sponsors: Henningson
Need financial documentation by April 1.
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No one appeared.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/4/2018
10:00 a.m. Hearings
4 RLH RR 18-13 Making finding on the appealed nuisance abatement ordered for 1426
DESOTO STREET in Council File RLH RR 17-29. (Legislative Hearing on
March 27)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Greta Bjerkness, o/b/o Ocwen Loan Servicing LLC, appeared.
Steve Magner, Code Enforcement Manager:
-read letter of Mar 15, 2018 to Ms. Bjerkness:
This is to confirm that on March 13, 2018 at the Legislative Hearing, Marcia Moermond,
Legislative Hearing Officer recommended continuing the above-referenced matter to
Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 330 City Hall with a City Council
Public Hearing on March 28, 2018 at 3:30 p.m. in Room 300 Council Chambers. Ms.
Moermond is requesting the following conditions to be met by March 27: 1) an updated
work plan for the remaining repairs; and 2) updated financing documentation available
if over the original amount of $75,000. If your client is still within the $75,000, what is
the cost of the remaining repairs? If those items are approved, she will ask the City
Council to continue the first $5,000 performance deposit.
-an update to that was a series of emails; the last email was sent by Joe Yannarelly:
It appears that the building permit that Jim Seeger closes out & issues the code
concerns will close the VB file (in ref to Ms. Bjerkness' email: I'm following up on the
status of 1426 Desoto; the property is set for a LH tomorrow; my client has reported
that the plumbing has passed inspection & HVAC was to be inspected today (which
was yesterday); assuming HVAC passes the inspections, all necessary areas have
passed inspection; is anything outstanding?
-what that means is that Mr. Seeger is ready to sign-off but he can't do that until HVAC
is signed off; I've checked the HVAC permit & they were out there yesterday, Mar 26;
they inspected & found a couple issues & gave verbal orders to the contractor to
correct; I believe that one of the issues is to open an area for an inspection; & the
other issue was to get another permit
-Is that your understanding, Ms. Bjerkness?
Ms. Bjerkness: I did not know any of that information
Mr. Magner: plumbing & electrical have been finaled; bldg has been inspected; Mr.
Seeger is simply waiting for the warm air (HVAC) to be finaled; the warm air was
inspected on Mar 26 & the noted indicates: duct work covered prior to inspection; bath
fan lower level bathroom; permit required for the 2nd fl bath fan; work without permits
Ms. Moermond: at City Council tomorrow (Mar 28), I will ask for a 2-week Lay Over to
give you time to get your Certificate of Code Compliance
-Steve, you can check with Mr. Seeger on Mon Apr 9
-Tue Apr 10, we'll be back here to make sure they have the code compliance
certificate
-back at City Council on Wed Apr 11, 2018
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To continue public hearing to April 11 with a Legislative Hearing on April 10, if
necessary.
Referred to the City Council due back on 3/28/2018
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO 18-16 Appeal of Ron Staehel to a Summary Abatement Order at 995 MILTON
STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Deny the appeal. (No one appeared)
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/4/2018
Other - Graffiti Abatement Order
6 RLH SAO Appeal of Opal Sherwood to a Graffiti Abatement Order at 1265 THIRD
18-20 STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Prince
Grant to July 1, 2018 for compliance with the scraping and peeling paint in front of
house facing the street.
A making finding resolution will go before Legislative Hearing on July 10 to determine if
the nuisance has been abated with a Public Hearing on July 11.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/11/2018
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations - Code Enforcement
7 RLH VO 18-10 Appeal of Chad Van Veldhuizen to a Notice of Condemnation as Unfit for
Human Habitation and Order to Vacate at 1570 STILLWATER AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Deny the appeal on the condemnation and order to vacate and refers to VB Program.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/11/2018
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
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8 RLH FCO Appeal of Cale Nelson to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at 722
18-40 GRAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Noecker
Grant an extension to April 20 to install temporary fencing for the length of the handrail;
grant to November 1, 2018 for permanent repair of the retaining wall.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/25/2018
9 RLH FCO Appeal of Zenaida Reyes to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1315 RICE
18-37 STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant an extension to June 1, 2018 for the completion of the repairs.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/25/2018
10 RLH FCO Appeal of Beth Greeder to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1441 VAN
18-42 BUREN AVENUE.
Sponsors: Henningson
Grant until June 1, 2018 to decrease occupancy to 4 unrelated adults.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/25/2018
11 RLH FCO 18-41 Appeal of Leeann Schray to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1380
WHITE BEAR AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Appeal was withdrawn by Appellant.
Withdrawn
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
12 RLH VBR 18-3 Appeal of Danielle Sobaski to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement at
1124 MATILDA STREET. (To be referred to Legislative Hearing on March 13)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Grant extensions as outlined in the work plan, noting most of the items have been
abated.
Referred to the City Council due back on 4/18/2018
13 RLH VBR 18-17 Appeal of Michael Parkey to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal Notice at
969 RICE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
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3/27/18: Deny the appeal. (No one appeared)
3/28/18: Owner came to office today and stated he missed the hearing. Rescheduled
to Monday, April 2.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 4/2/2018
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
18-11 521-523 DESNOYER AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the March 14,
2018 City Council public hearing. (Public hearing continued from March
14) (Legislative Hearing on March 27)
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 521-523 Desnoyer Ave.PH 1-12-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.SHPO 12-20-17
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.OTA 12-6-17
521 Desnoyer Ave.Photos.2-2-07.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Photos 9-11-17.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Photos 12-4-17.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Chermak-Moermond Email.2-12-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Chermak Email.2-16-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Olson Ltr.2-20-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Dubriel Email.2-21-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Howey letter to LHO.2-24-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Draft Loan & Construction Agreement.2-27-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Chermak-Moermond Email.2-27-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Chermak-Moermond Email.3-7-18
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Work Plan.3-12-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Olson Ltr.3-8-18.doc
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Kunkel Electric Estimate.3-11-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Barr Web Ind 3-10-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Boehm Heating Bid.3-6-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Intechx Services Inc Scope of Work.5-7-18.pdf
521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Bank Statement from US Bank.3-12-18.pdf
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521-523 Desnoyer Ave.Olson R-R Ltr.3-15-18.doc
2 RLH RR 18-3 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 735
MARGARET STREET within fifteen (15) days after the February 14, 2018,
City Council public hearing. (Public hearing to be continued to April 4)
Sponsors: Prince
Attachments: 735 Margaret St.Photos.11-1-17
735 Margaret St.OTA 11-7-17
735 Margaret St.PH 12-15-17
735 Margaret St.SHPO Form 12-21-17
735 Margaret St.Photos.4-26-10
735 Margaret St.Kujala-Scharf Ltr.1-19-18.doc
735 Margaret St.Kujala-Scharf Ltr.2-16-18.doc
3 RLH RR 18-2 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 1536
VAN BUREN AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the February 14,
2018, City Council public hearing. (Amend to remove within 15 days with
no option for rehabilitation)
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 1536 Van Buren Ave.OTA 10-25-17
1536 Van Buren Ave.PH 12-15-17
1536 Van Buren Ave.SHPO 11-2-17
1536 Van Buren Ave.Photos.10-19-17
1536 Van Buren. Ave.Condemnation Ltr.8-9-16
1536 Van Buren Ave.Photos.8-9-16
1536 Van Buren Ave.Sorden Design LLC Proposal.1-26-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Henneman-Bjerkness Ltr.1-19-18.doc
1536 Van Buren Ave.Henneman-Bjerkness Ltr.2-2-18.doc
1536 Van Buren Ave.Henneman-Bjerkness Ltr.2-13-18.doc
1536 Van Buren.Assistance for Homeowners Email.2-14-18
1536 Van Buren Ave.Neighborhood Assistance for Homeowners Ltr.2-14-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Neighborhood Assistance For HomeOwners_Secretary of State _Article of
1536 Van Buren Ave.NeighborhoodAssistanceForHomeowners NonProfit Ammeded ByLaw.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Assistance Homeowner Ltr.2-15-18.doc
1536 Van Buren Ave.Neighborhood Assistance For Homeowners Feb 20 2018 Response Letter.
1536 Van Buren Ave.Performance Bond Escrow Confirmation.2-20-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Proof of Funds HomeLibertyInc Pre Comitment letter.2-20-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Preliminary Timeline.2-28-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Tobak-Hanratty Ltr.2-28-18.doc
1536 Van Buren Ave.Seeger Email Re Duplex Status.2-28-18
1536 Van Buren Ave.Plans for Rehab.3-9-18.pdf
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1536 Van Buren Ave.Signed Agreement Plans for Rehab.3-13-18.pdf
1536 Van Buren Ave.Tobak-Hanratty R-R Ltr.3-16-18.doc
1536 Van Buren Ave.Sworn construction Statement from Dan Norby Home Maintainers 3-26-18.
10:00 a.m. Hearings
4 RLH RR Making finding on the appealed nuisance abatement ordered for 1426
18-13 DESOTO STREET in Council File RLH RR 17-29. (Legislative Hearing on
March 27)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1426 Desoto St.R-R Findings Ltr.1-25-18.doc
1426 Desoto St.30-Day Forfeit Notice.1-23-18
1426 Desoto St.Updated Photos.3-8-18.pdf
1426 Desoto St.R-R Findings Ltr.3-16-18.doc
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO Appeal of Ron Staehel to a Summary Abatement Order at 995 MILTON
18-16 STREET NORTH.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 995 Milton St. N.appeal.03-20-2018
Other - Graffiti Abatement Order
6 RLH OA 18-2 Appeal of Opal Sherwood to a Graffiti Abatement Order at 1265 THIRD
STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Prince
Attachments: 1265 3rd St. E.appeal.03-19-2018
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations - Code Enforcement
7 RLH VO Appeal of Chad Van Veldhuizen to a Notice of Condemnation as Unfit for
18-10 Human Habitation and Order to Vacate at 1570 STILLWATER AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1570 Stillwater Ave.appeal.3-12-18
1570 Stillwater Ave.photos Set 1.3-3-18
1570 Stillwater Ave.photos Set 2.3-3-18
1570 Stillwater Ave.photos Set 3.3-3-18
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1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
8 RLH FCO Appeal of Cale Nelson to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at 722
18-40 GRAND AVENUE.
Sponsors: Noecker
Attachments: 722 Grand Ave.appeal.03-19-2018
722 Grand Ave.Photos.3-14-18
9 RLH FCO Appeal of Zenaida Reyes to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1315
18-37 RICE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1315 Rice St.appeal.3-12-2018
1315 Rice St.Photos Doc 1.2-28-18
1315 Rice St.Photos Doc 2.2-28-18
10 RLH FCO Appeal of Beth Greeder to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1441
18-42 VAN BUREN AVENUE.
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 1441 Van Buren Ave.appeal.03-22-2018
1441 Van Buren Ave.Photos.3-22-18
11 RLH FCO Appeal of Leeann Schray to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice at 1380
18-41 WHITE BEAR AVENUE.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1380 White Bear Ave.appeal.03-19-2018
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
12 RLH VBR Appeal of Danielle Sobaski to a Vacant Building Registration Requirement
18-3 at 1124 MATILDA STREET. (To be referred to Legislative Hearing on
March 13)
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1124 Matilda St.appeal.1-12-18
1124 Matilda St.Livingston-Sobaski Ltr.2-2-18.doc
1124 Matilda St.Sobaski Ltr.2-16-18.doc
1124 Matilda St.Sobaski Ltr.3-15-18.doc
1124 Matilda St.Sobaski Ltr.3-23-18.doc
13 RLH VBR Appeal of Michael Parkey to a Vacant Building Registration Renewal
18-17 Notice at 969 RICE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
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Attachments: 969 Rice St.appeal.3-19-18
969 Rice St.Fire C of O Revocation.10-15-12
969 Rice St.Photos.5-14-13
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