Legislative Hearings
Regular MeetingSt. Paul, MN · July 17, 2018
Minutes
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Minutes - Final
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR 18-28 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 1332
DAYTON AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the August 15, 2018,
City Council Public Hearing. (Amend to remove or repair within 180
days)
Sponsors: Thao
Mark Ronea, ESSO, appeared.
Ms. Moermond: I have Red Dirt Lending LLC showing up as an owner; how does this
connect to Red Dirt?
Mr. Ronea: Bristol Properties owns the property; just happened the end of Jun 2018
Ms. Moermond: that would have been an illegal sale
Mr. Ronea: Red Dirt Lending was the first lein holder; Bristol Properties was the 2nd
lein holder & I partnered with Hendrei who took the property back; Hendrie owns Bristol
Properties; Red Dirt didn't get paid off; I'll be doing the rehab on the project; I'm not
sure who Beneficial Investments LLC is
Ms. Moermond: Beneficial show up in Jun on a code compliance report & they show
up as an owner with the county
Mr. Ronea: I believe they're the ones who lost the property..... .?
Ms. Moermond: Bristol didn't show up in the Ownership Encumbance Report - they
didn't have their name in the title chain & Red Dirt did (?)
Mr. Ronea: I believe Bristol came in later in the process; they stopped making
payments to Red Dirt when the foreclosure process started; I'm sure when things got
recorded
Supervisor Steve Magner: Summary
-The building is a two-story, wood frame, duplex with a detached, two-stall garage on a
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lot of 4,792 square feet. According to our files, it has been a vacant building since
March 12, 2012.
-The current property owner that we have listed is Red Dirt Lending LLC per AMANDA
and Ramsey County Property records.
-On April 18, 2018, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken. An
ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on April 25, 2018 with a
compliance date of May 25, 2018. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $72,000 on the land and $58,000
on the building.
-Real estate taxes are current.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by assessment on March 30, 2018.
-A Code Compliance Inspection was done on June 22, 2018.
-As of July 16, 2018, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been fourteen (14) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2012.
-There have been eleven (11) WORK ORDERS issued for:
-Garbage/rubbish; -Boarding/securing; -Grass/weeds; -Snow/ice
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$75,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $20,000.
-looking at our paperwork, Allen & Pearl McIntosch Federal, dated May 24, 1967, in
the amount of $15,150; then, there was a mortgage executed by Allen & Pearl
McIntosch in favor of Pay Setter Products Inc, dated May 6, 1981 & filed ___ 10 for
the amount of $6000; then, we skipped fwd to Combination Mortgage Security
Agreement & Fixture Financing executed by Beneficial Investments LLC in favor of
Red Dirt LLC on May 11, 2016, filed on May 25, 2016 in the amount of $199,615; so, at
some point, Beneficial Investments becomes the owner; then, there's a collateral
assignment of that mortgage by Red Dirt LLC dated in May 2016; then, the above
mortgage document has been assigned to Red Dirt in Sep of 2017; then, in Oct,
there's a Notice of Pendance, Power of Attorney, obviously a foreclosure going on;
then, a request for __ any mortg foreclosure __in Oct; this is done by Red Dirt; so,
Red Dirt is in the process of foreclosing that mortgage; it would go back to Beneficial;
then the above mortg has been foreclosed & the premises were sold to Red Dirt
Lending by a Sheriff's Certificate on Dec 20, 2017; as of Dec 2017, Red Dirt is the
owner of the property; at some point, Red Dirt owns this property; I don't see where Mr.
Grant ...... could Mr. Grant have bought the Certificate from Red Dirt? it's possible
Ms. Moermond: did that happen after Apr 25?
Mr. Magner: that question we'd have to discuss with our attorneys because if there
was a chain of mortg companies...............; it seems like Red Dirt, who was noticed on
the Order to Abate, had cleared the title & held possession of the property - if they'd
sold it after the Order to Abate, that would be a non-qualified sale; we need to know
how if you're getting it from Hendrie, how did Hendrie get it from Red Dirt; and Mr. Grant
is certainly someone who's not aware of the laws/requirements of the City of St. Paul
Ms. Moermond: him not being here is the problem
Mr. Ronea: this is my first Cat 3 home
Mr. Magner: moving fwd, we would need some type of explanation of how we got to this
point
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Ms. Moermond: as of 2 weeks ago, the county had Red Dirt Lending as being the
owner of record; I need to see a contractual agreement between the actual owner, Red
Dirt & the entity that wanted to do the rehab; that title would not transfer until the rehab
were completed
Mr. Magner: the problem here is if you're partnering with Hendrie, I don't know that it's
recorded because Ramsey Co still shows Red Dirt as the owner
Ms. Moermond: we can only talk to the owner about doing the rehab
Mr. Ronea: I did come with a Scope of Work (scanned); he plans to spend $120,000;
we have sufficient funds & are ready to start now; I did a lot of leg work preparing for
this
Ms. Moermond: we don't have the $5000 perf dep posted yet; we need that before
any recommendation for rehab is made; has someone been maintaining?
Mr. Magner: Jun 4-TGW Apr 27-boarding; snow/ice in Feb; TGW in Sep & Jul 2017;
it's been a VB since Mar 2012
Mr. Ronea: it's structurally sound; he entered proof of funds & a statment from Mr.
Grant (scanned)
Mr. Magner: Beneficial went thru Sale Review in 2016; the city needs clarification; how
did Mr. Grant end up holding the property because .........is he Red Dirt?
Ms. Moermond: I will continue this to Jul 31, 2018 LH; I need an affidavit from ESSO;
I need Mr. Grant's contact info; CCPH Aug 15, 2018
Mr. Ronea: I'll call back with Mr. Grant's contact info.
Ms. Moermond:
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Continued to July 31. The following conditions must be met in order to receive a grant
of time:
1. A $5,000 performance deposit will need to be posted with DSI at 375 Jackson St,
Ste 220, St Paul MN 55102 – please note that the deposit will be returned with interest
when the code compliance certificate is issued within the grant of time from the City
Council – which is proposed to be 180 days;
2. A revised detailed work plan or sworn construction statement which includes
timelines for completing the work required in the code compliance inspection report will
need to be provided;
3. Documentation of financing sufficient to execute the above work plan will need to
be demonstrated (line of credit, construction loan, personal bank account). The City
estimates the cost to repair to be $75,000. Your bids indicate the cost will be
approximately $115,000.
4. If the funds being used are not tied to the project (such as a construction loan), we
require an affidavit that states the necessary funds will be set aside from other
business or personal accounts. Also, please clarify if the Esso account funds will be
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used for this project or another source. We will need updated account information in
both cases.
5. If owner wants to sell the property to the person or organization rehabilitating the
property, the agreement between these parties must be approved by the City. This will
be a contractual agreement which must stipulate that the purchaser will be undertaking
the rehabilitation of the property while the property is still owned by Red Dirt Lending, in
order to be in compliance with City Codes pertaining to the transfer of
nuisance/dangerous properties; and
6. the property must be maintained.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/31/2018
2 RLH RR 18-29 Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
769-771 UNIVERSITY AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the
August 15, 2018 City Council public hearing. (Amend to remove within
30 days)
Sponsors: Thao
Mandy Pant, Project for Pride in Living (PPL) ADYC LLC, owner, appeared.
Dan Bayers, Planning & Economic Development (PED), also appeared.
Steve Magner, Code Enforcement Manager: Summary
-The building is a two-story wood frame duplex on a lot of 23,087 square feet.
(clarification: this originally did not have 23,087 sq.ft; over time, the adjoining
properties have been razed & there's a lot of history with this property; I remember
being there in the 90's dealing with it; it is now, surrounded by vacant parcels, which
have been combined for future development.) According to our files, it has been a
vacant building since February 11, 2016.
-The current property owner is PPL ADYC LLC per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
-On April 12, 2018, an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken. An
ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on April 25, 2018 with a
compliance date of May 25, 2018. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $579,500 on the land and $88,100
on the building.
-Real estate taxes are current.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by check on March 1, 2018.
-As of July 16, 2018, a Code Compliance Inspection has not been done.
-As of July 16, 2018, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been nineteen (19) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2016.
-There have been fifteen (15) WORK ORDERS issued for:
- Garbage/rubbish
- Grass/weeds
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$100,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $20,000.
-it is our understanding that there is targeted new development & the property's going
to be razed; part of the problem were having is site control; I know that the site was
previously looked at & something should have happened a number of years ago; then,
things happened so they didn't; I don't know why this has become such a dumping
ground but we are having a lot of problems out there
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Ms. Moermond: the photos seem to show evidence of break-ins, perhaps squatting in
the house; I don't see squatting, break-ins or boarding listed among the nuisances
here in the past couple of years
Mr. Magner: we have done contracted boarding in Apr 2018 & in Mar 2017
Ms. Pant: PPL acquired the bldg on Jul 11, 2017
Mr. Magner: I don't believe that PPL is putting all those things out there; they are
leaving them there - not taking them away; SA's were sent to PPL
Ms. Pant: we have somebody going out there every week to clean it up but people just
keep dumping - it's amazing; we want to tear the bldg down
Ms. Moermond: that's the plan; staff are estimating the cost to raze the bldg at
$20,000; excluding hazardous abatement, which could cost an additional $1500
(approx); what's your timeline?
Mr. Bayers: the city is involved because the developers requested financial assistance
from the city; we went to the HRA Board, allocated some resources for this project; the
developer finalized the bid, which came in a little higher than anticipated
Ms. Moermond: PPL ADYC is a limited partnership for purposes of this project but
you are separately operating non-profits (?) Ms. Pant: yes
-so, you, Mr. Bayers, got requested by this partnership for the city to assist - went thru
HRA
Mr. Bayers: the bids for the development of this project came back higher than
anticipated; this project is a 22-unit efficiency to assist homeless youth with an
emphasis on Native American youth; they had all the funding together except that the
bids came in higher than anticipated so they asked the city to assist to help fill that
gap; the city agreed to do that; we're going to the HRA Board on Jul 25 to request
additional funding; if approved at that time, the project will be fully funded & we
anticipate closing sometime around Sep 1, 2018; once closed, the bldg will be
removed & the site will commence with the environmental clean-up, which will begin a
week after
Ms. Moermond: how much are you asking from HRA?
Mr. Bayers: they're asking us for additional tax credits & that ends up being about
$194,555 annually for a period of 10 years
Ms. Pant: it depends on the pricing at the time; about $900,000
Ms. Moermond: what if there's a delay in the HRA's consideration & you aren't able to
move forward in Sep? what's the plan?
Mr. Bayers: if the HRA does not approve this additional funding,..... the tax credits
we're requesting are 2018, so they have to be used this year; technically, we can push
them back to 2019 but they are 2018 tax credits that we can use this year; so, we do
anticipate allocating them at this time
Ms. Moermond: is there money right now to remove the bldg if there's a delay?
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Ms. Pant: we have grants from Met Council to remove the bldg
Mr. Bayers: Met Council has approved those funds; City Council has accepted those
funds; we're in the process right now of finalizing the loan documents for those funds;
in most cases, we would close at the same time that we'd close all the financing on the
project
Ms. Moermond: so, closing is on Sep 1 if approved by HRA on Jul 25; City Council
Public Hearing is on Aug 15, 2018; we'd have good information right before that
Council meeting; let's touch base on Aug 14, 2018 at 9 am & put together a plan of
action; CC Agenda will list a Resolution that will say "remove/repair within 15 days" -
boiler plate language that will be amended based on our conversation on Tue, Aug 14,
2018
Mr. Magner: has the total site been acquired now?
Ms. Pant: yes, we're done with the acquisition
Mr. Magner: the original vision by the previous developer was to expand a little more
Ms. Pant: that's not in our scope
Ms. Moermond:
Continued to August 14 LH with a August 15 PH.
Recommendation is forthcoming. If owner wishes to pursue with demolition, the City
would need to see a signed contract with a licensed demolition contractor.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
3 RLH RR 18-30 Ordering the razing and removal of the structures at 877 WOODBRIDGE
STREET within fifteen (15) days after the August 15, 2018 City Council
public hearing.
Sponsors: Thao
Steve Magner, Code Enforcement Manager:
-The building is a two-story, wood frame, duplex on a lot of 3,049 square feet.
According to our files, it has been a vacant building since November 6, 2007.
-The current property owner is Ling Jian Zhou per AMANDA and Ramsey County
Property records.
-On April 11, 2018 an inspection of the building was conducted, a list of deficiencies
which constitute a nuisance condition was developed and photographs were taken. An
ORDER TO ABATE A NUISANCE BUILDING was posted on April 19, 2018 with a
compliance date of May 19, 2018. As of this date, the property remains in a condition
which comprises a nuisance as defined by the legislative code.
-Taxation has placed an estimated market value of $7,700 on the land and $89,600 on
the building.
-Real estate taxes for 2017 are delinquent in the amount of $5,399.11, which includes
penalty and interest. -Taxes for the first half of 2018 have not been paid. The property
is scheduled for tax forfeiture July 31, 2019.
-The Vacant Building registration fees were paid by assessment on December 4, 2017.
-A Code Compliance Inspection was done on February 2, 2012 and has since expired.
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-As of July 16, 2018, the $5,000 performance deposit has not been posted.
-There have been twenty-six (26) SUMMARY ABATEMENT NOTICES since 2007.
-There have been seventeen (17) WORK ORDERS issued for:
-Garbage/rubbish
-Grass/weeds
-Snow/ice
-Code Enforcement Officers estimate the cost to repair this structure exceeds
$50,000. The estimated cost to demolish exceeds $20,000.
-DSI, Division of Code Enforcement Resolution submitted for consideration orders the
property owner to repair or remove this structure within fifteen (15) days; if not the
resolution authorizes the Division of Code Enforcement to demolish and assess the
costs to the property.
Ms. Moermond: it's been a Reg VB for 11 years; taxes stopped being paid a few years
ago - will forfeit next year; code compl done in 2012, 6 years ago, ordered by Ling Jian
Zhou; no perf dep; city has done a lot of maintenance; photos show that it's an
extremely dilapidated structure; appears abandoned; some permits in 2012
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Remove the building within 15 days with no option for repair. (No one appeared.)
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
10:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
4 SR 18-103 Review request of Owner, Lynn Fagerness, dba Amadeus Holdings LLC,
to a Ratification of Assessment File RLH AR 18-5, adopted by City
Council on February 28, 2018, for property at 1119 RAYMOND AVENUE
2. (File No. VB1805, Assessment No. 188804)
Sponsors: Henningson
Lynn Fagerness, dba Amadeus Holdings LLC, owner, appeared.
Ms. Moermond: I talked with Judy Hanson, Litigation Division, City Attorney's Office; it
is my understanding that you've appealed the assessment associated with the Vacant
Building Registration at filed at District Court because you did not receive a letter that
there was a pending assessment & therefore, did not have the opportunity to address
the City Council about why you thought you shouldn't have to pay that VB fee; that you
have a hearing in Aug & today, we're establishing a record & giving you an opportunity
go forward to the City Council
Supervisor Steve Magner, Code Enforcement Manager: a VB file was opened on Jun
7, 2017; a letter was generated on Jun 8, 2017 - a Vacant Building Registration Notice;
a warning letter was sent out Jul 10, 2017; after that, the fee had not been paid during
the first 30 days; on Jul 26, 2017, the Supervisor for the West Team put in a 90-day
VB fee waiver to allow Team Inspection to be completed & permits to be pulled to
bring the bldg into compliance so that the Certificate of Occupancy could be issued
for the units; on Oct 24, 2017, a warning letter was sent out indicating that the property
is not in compliance - still a Registered VB & that the VB fee now needs to be paid;
that fee wasn't paid & so the Oct assessments were processed & left our office & went
to the assessment role; my understanding is that a letter would be sent out with a gold
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postcard to the responsible party/owner & they would be given the opportunity to
submit that postcard back to the city indicating that they wanted to appeal; because
no one showed up for that appeal, the assessment was processed along with the other
assessments & sent to taxes; that's how we got here
Ms. Moermond: you are the owner of Amadeus Holdings LLC; your address is PO Box
3074, Burnsville, MN 55337-8074 (the address of record; it's on the VB Reg Notices &
our assessment role); you did appeal the Vacate Order on this property when the C of
O was Revoked; you told me that the previous owner had done a fair bit of work without
permits; a code analysis/architectural plans would provide a map of how to bring this
bldg into compliance; to the best of my knowledge, no plans were submitted to DSI &
no permits have been pulled
Ms. Fagerness: I didn't get that last letter with the gold postcard; I've been working on
the bldg-renovating - work that did not require permits to be pulled; I had an architect
come through & he said that it was structurally sound; there was nothing that he could
do; my understanding from your direction was that I should order a code compliance
inspection, which I did on Sep 26, 2017; the trades inspectors came when I was there;
they hadn't given me any warning; I had a company, Home to Home, that was going to
do the work; at that point, they were waiting to get their contractor's license from the
State of MN; then, they'd pull the permit; they are interested in doing the work but they
haven't put me on their schedule; it's been a very long time; I keep contacting them
but they don't return my phone calls; so, I'm started contacting other contractors - all
are over-booked; - say they can start on Xdate but when that date comes, they
continue the delay; then after they've dragged me along for a few months they say,
look, we're not going to be able to do the work; then, the next company does the same
thing; I've done as much as I can do
Mr. Magner: you can't do the work in the other units that you do not inhabit; the other
units need licensed people to do the work; there's very significant work that needs to
be done; I'm concerned with your appeal on the 2017 VB fee; we gave you time; we
need to be reimbursed; also for the 2018 VB fee, which is due
Ms. Moermond: have you received the VB renewal Notices & are you going to appeal
those? If you would have gotten the letter, what you would have said, "I'm trying to get
this done but I feel like I've been getting the run around from a bunch of contractors
so I shouldn't have to pay the fee;" I'm putting words in your mouth; is that what you're
saying?
Ms. Fagerness: yes
Ms. Moermond: but you're in the Program for the entire year and to get out of the VB
Program you need to get your Certificate of Code Compliance or your Certificate of
Occupancy; are there any notes in the file, Mr. Magner?
Mr. Magner: the VB inspector has been going out every 2-3 weeks; the bldg is secure,
maintained; there's no SAs; it's the requirement of the property owner to register the
property & pay the VB fee
Ms. Fagerness: Inspector Gavin came by one day while I was there; he said that this
property was always good; I didn't have to worry about it; I took that as a good sign
-I have a list of other contractors; they find it a challenge when they see the long list;
no one wants to take on the job; I have the funds
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Ms. Moermond: you were in the VB Program for 1 year; if you would have gotten your
code compliance inspection earlier, I could have cut down the fee; now, it's difficult for
me to cut the fee; I can't prorate; I don't know who your prospects are; if you can get it
done in 90 days (Sep 7); I would delete the 2018-2019 VB fee or prorate; & I can
recommend dividing payments over time; it's the best option I have now
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Approve and spread over 5 years. Preparing new resolution to amend File No. AR 18-5
to go to PH on 7/25.
Received and Filed
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO 18-39 Appeal of Elizabeth G. Burr to a Summary Abatement Order at 2025
FAIRMOUNT AVENUE.
Sponsors: Henningson
Elizabeth Burr, Owner & Phillip Freeland appeared.
Lisa Martin:
-on June 28, order was issued to Elizabeth Burr. It was to cut and remove overgrown
vegetation throughout the yard, compliance date was for July 16. I spoke to Ms. Burr
regarding the property and photos in file as well. I can’t even see the address numbers
so I didn’t call it out. I am hoping once everything is trimmed back, I will be able to
see the numbers. We talked about rodent harborage. She said she has a few mice
coming into the house but they're contained. I did sent out a more detailed description
for some of the things we are looking at, back yard is very good.
-she has done a lot of work in the front yard and is pretty close to come into
compliance but needs a little more work to be done.
-current photos this morning.
(Lisa Martin showing photos to Ms. Moermond and explaining photos)
Ms. Burr:
-I also took some photos taken yesterday
Ms. Moermond:
-from looking at this, we have some trimmed down and path has been cleared?
Ms. Martin:
-yes.
Ms. Moermond:
-please forward photos to record.
-asking why appealing and what she is looking for
Ms. Burr:
– I can deal with and I understand about clearing walks and sidewalk and clearing the
street to the house. I get that. I think I pretty much comply with that. And the other
part I was bit overwhelmed. This was my husband’s garden. He died and I didn’t know
how to garden. Last summer, I had to do the garden without him. I had medical issue
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and was gone for 10 days. I came back and the garden was up in the sky and then I
got the abatement order. I want to keep my native plants and my flowers, my rose
bushes.
-I understand the boulevard has a different code for it.
-husband won a native garden award in 2015
Ms. Moermond:
-you got it trimmed down but the boulevard still seems to be a problem.
Ms. Burr:
-the east blvd is good. The western side has my rose bushes.
-in the past, the inspector has allowed us to keep them.
-I have cut them down and can be cut down further.
Ms. Martin:
-there seems to be a large bush somewhat tree in that blvd, purplish leaves.
Phillip Freeland:
- I attend church with her and know she was under a lot of stress so I went to chat with
her. I have son who is 19 and was looking for some work and she asks him to help
with the garden.
-I have a wild garden myself and was featured in the Star Tribune
- I felt I have some qualification to help Eliza. This was a garden that went out of
control and that is huge job to put back into control. I have been spending time over
there guiding my son and all and what might be able to be done. Our first issue was to
address the the boundaries
- the 2nd issue was relative to the blvd area which was overgrown
-she tried to maintain which was had been started by her husband and trying to bring
back into control with the City. The plants became the focus.
-I have two pages here identifying the wild flowers there growing in her yard.
-I have been trying to find these plants and make sure to create new spaces.
-We are making good progress on it.
-She is very concerned about the rose bush/tree on the west end of the blvd, been
there for a long time. Some consent from earlier that the rose bush can stay there.
-what we are dealing with is not a typical yard but it's a garden.
Ms. Burr:
-I have 2 appts with arborists. there is a berry bush up to the roof line and I am trying
to trim down.
[LHO looking at photos with Ms. Burr and Mr. Freeland]
Ms. Burr:
-the large rose bush is in the boulevard
Ms. Burr:
-yes
-photos showing that the first issue has been taken care of.
Ms. Moermond:
-continue this matter for a month as long as she continues to make progress.
Continued to August 21. Looking for owner to reduce the volume of the overgrowth
vegetation/plants.
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Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 8/21/2018
6 RLH SAO 18-44 Appeal of Rynn Burke to a Summary Abatement Order at 1729
RANDOLPH AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Rynn Burke, owner, appeared.
Ms. Burke: my wife & I bought our property in 2000
Supervisor Lisa Martin: Summary Abatement Order was issued on Jun 29, 2018 re: 24
inch fencing on a blvd
garden
Ms. Burke: it's temporary fencing; I put it in when butterflies are emerging in the
spring; I can pull it out very quickly but I actually love having it there; the birds love it &
I've had such reduced trash in the butterfly garden; I have natural stones where the
community can come & sit & watch the birds & butterflies; she brought up
photographs of the fencing & garden; the milkweeds far exceed the height of the
fencing; I can pull the fence sections out because they are not permanently installed;
only the footings are but I'd rather not pull the fence; it has added to the appearance of
the property & made people pay more attention to the signage & learn; it's well set
back from the street; the Monarch Butterfly emerges right now; they should be finished
flying in another 2 weeks (major migration); I like to put it out Mar-Apr & pull it out in
Aug
Ms. Moermond: there are concerns with fencing on the blvd: car doors, visibility, snow
plows; what I'm seeing here is a temporary fence that you intend to pull out; it's an
open, not closed fence; & you have it set back from the street; so, I would recommend
that the Council allow the fence to be in place from Apr 15 - Sep 15 in the fashion that
you've shown me in these photos (scanned)
Ms. Burke: is there a mechanism in City of Saint Paul to have an area declared some
sort of sanctuary?
Ms. Moermond: it has been assessed from time to time; what trips up everyone is
which plants would be considered native planting; I hear what you are saying & I'll
make sure that it's brought to the attention of the Council; it does come up from time
to time
Ms. Burke: I want to make you aware that there's the Xerxes Society has worked with
the U.S. Dept of Fish & Wildlife as well as the Dept of Transportation & has a local
plant list for things that support native wild life & they worked with the Obama
Administration for the wild life part of the whole thing; if you're interested, I could
propose to the city that would be helpful
Ms. Moermond: grab a business card & send me info/link, etc. that would be helpful
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Grant variance from April 15 to September 15 to allow fencing on boulevard.
A making finding resolution will be scheduled for September 18 LH with a CC on
September 26 to determine if the fencing has been abated by deadline.
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Referred to the City Council due back on 8/1/2018
7 RLH SAO 18-41 Appeal of Juliana Winner and Sei Ko to a Summary Abatement Order at
386 ROSE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Juliana Winner & Sei Ko Keo, owners, appeared. (Nathan Seng, Karen interpreter,
also appeared.)
Supervisor Lisa Martin: Summary Abatement Order with photo was issued Jun 25,
2018, by Supervisor Paula Seeley re trash along the rear fence; compliance for Jul 2,
2018; on Jul 2, Insp Seeley issued a 2nd SA with photo to remove garbage behind
garage in wooded area; compliance Jul 6, 2018
Ms. Moermond: is this garbage, etc. outside of their backyard or farther back?
Ms. Martin: I'm not familiar with the property so, I'm not sure
Mr. Keo: I didn't know that it was there; I got the letter Jul 2 & went back there &
cleaned it up; I have the 2nd letter, it was not done by compliance date
Ms. Moermond: so, you didn't put it there but the city is saying, "It's on your property;"
did they have a concern with cleaning it up?
Ms. Winner: we cleaned it up; it's gone; entered photos (scanned); it appears to
originate from the neighbor's property
Ms. Moermond: I think what happened was the original Order was sent Jun 25 with a
deadline of Jul 2; Insp went out on Jul 2 & saw that the work wasn't done so a 2nd
letter was sent; after that, it got cleaned up by the owner, so, we're fine
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Grant the appeal as the nuisance has been abated.
On July 23, 2018, Juliana Winner called and stated that the nuisance from the July
2nd SA order is not abated. She said that she abated the June 25th order.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/1/2018
8 RLH SAO 18-42 Appeal of John Flaherty to a Summary Abatement Order at 38
WYOMING STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Noecker
DSI has withdrawn the appeal as the nuisance is abated. Refund appeal fee.
Withdrawn
9 RLH CO 18-29 Amending Council File RLH CO 18-1, adopted January 17, 2018, to
grant the appeal for Nancy Mork & Amy Mork for property at 601
CALIFORNIA AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Amy Mork, owner, appeared.
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Ms. Moermond: I believe that this appeal is about getting out of the Fire C of O
Program; it looks that it was a Fire C of O file that I recommended be closed because
it had become owner-occupied & referred to Code Enforcement; Code Enf, evidently
contacted Ms. Shaff, who said that there are no open Orders on the property; it was
kind of an obscure email that Insp Seeley sent to Ms. Shaff; bottom line: I need to
know what's going on with the mechanical permit; we have a contractor & a permit & an
inspector that are not in sync; have they talked?
Supervisor Lisa Martin: I have no notes from Ms. Seeley
Ms. Mork: we have some work that needs to be done; some of these permits are from
the previous owner's time & these contractors say that I need to go to the inspectors &
the inspectors say that I need to go to the contractors; I want to know what to do
Ms. Moermond: you have one open permit that was pulled under your ownership; what
I'd like to see Ms. Seeley do, Ms. Martin, is to go & take photographs of those items
where the permits have not been closed; I want to see photos to make a determination
about whether a code violation exists for those items; if a code violations exists, then
we'll worry about the permitting; if there's no code violation, I'll consider the matter
resolved
-for the permits prior to your ownership, let's get the inspector out there to take
pictures & show them to the relevant trades inspectors; if there's no problems that are
visible from the photos, the matter is closed
Ms. Mork: OK; another issue - I had somebody out & there's also a new problem that
is not listed for which I would probably have to come up with $10,000
Ms. Moermond: we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
Fire Supervisor A.J. Neis: Mechanical Inspector Aaron Havlicek's phone number:
651/266-9043
(I don't have a recommendation)
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/18/2018
10 RLH SAO 18-45 Appeal of Harlan Dorman to a Summary Abatement Order and
Correction Notice at 547 STINSON STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
Harlan Dorman, occupant, appeared.
Supervisor Lisa Martin: Summary Abatement Order & Correction Notice
Correction Notice: has 9 items listed: parking; garage & house have exterior paint
issues; garage either needs to be repaired/removed; garage roof is deteriorated; entire
garage should come down; I've talked with Mr. Dorman regarding that; stairs are
unsafe; there's a temporary structure in the back yard; exterior sanitation - they are
working on; this file was started on a complaint; on Jun 15, 2018, we issued a
Summary Abatement Order: 1) garage repair/remove - Jul 2 compliance date; issued
to Occupant & also sent to Frank & Alice Mattson, 571 Front Ave; unique situation;
Frank & Alice Mattson are Mr. Dorman's grandparents, who have passed; Mr. Dorman
& his mother were living there & they have water damage; they had to vacate that home
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so, he's now now staying here at 547 Stinson Street, which was his grandparents'
home; his mom assists him at the house; we're working with House Calls; they have
provided a dumpster; the home has a lot of combustible materials, much of which is
from the other property at 571 Front that had all the water damage; there's a lot in the
yard & in the house; Mr. Dorman is unable to go up/down the stairs; he has a bed on
the main floor; there's a lot of stuff in the kitchen; since I've been working with them,
they've cleaned out a lot of stuff - they have almost a full dumpster; we'll get more
dumpsters if we need to; Erica was hoping to be here
-the garage, definitely, needs attention
-Mr. Dorman is doing a great job but obviously, needs more time; they have smoke/CO
detectors; there's some housing issues & some financial restraints; other problem is
that ownership is still in grandparents' name; so, technically, this would fall under a C
of O file; however, because of the circumstances & my involvement, I would like to still
work with Mr. Dorman to try to get compliance getting the house cleaned out
-garage - financial restraints; we talked about the city taking down the garage - file
appeal to spread out the payments; right now, he & his mom are taking care of the
taxes; the house is paid for; we want to make sure that he is able to maintain living in
this home
-due to his medical injury, he needs extra help
Ms. Moermond: so, things are started - moving along - you have House Calls helping;
Mr. Dorman & his mother Marilyn are working hard at the clean up; you are trying to
gather solutions; property isn't in great shape; a lot of things need repair; probably
need financial assistance, which will take some time
-does your mom work?
Mr. Dorman: she does daycare for my brothers; the house was paid for a long time
ago; we're behind on the taxes; the house at 571 Front Ave was sold for very little
money; technically, my mom lives at 547 Stinson but she spends a lot of time at my
brother's; I have a brain injury & other physical damage; I get a disability check
Mai Vang checked on the taxes
Ms. Moermond: you have an income stream; it's possible that you could get an equity
loan to pay for some repairs
Ms. Martin: my biggest concern is that the garage needs to be demoed
Ms. Moermond: average cost of removing a garage: $1500-$2000; if the city does
that, I can divide those payments over 5 years
Ms. Martin: that's what we talked about
Mr. Dorman: maybe my brother & his buddies could do it; I need more time
Ms. Martin: you could pull a permit for that
Mr. Dorman: could we have separate deadlines; I have a hard time with steps; I need
time
Ms. Martin: he'll need assistance for continuing progress; first get the house cleaned
out; then, we'll have a new inspection
Ms. Moermond: based on Ms. Martin's assessment, I want the basement cleaned out
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next because of the furnace, water heater, etc. (fire hazard); upstairs cleaned out by
Aug 15, 2018; garage demoed by Oct 15, 2018
-financial resource; check with Ms. Michele Vojecek, Planning & Economic
Development (PED) when the time comes; she understands money/resources for
rehab
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Grant extensions for the following:
-basement to be cleaned out by August 15, 2018
-upstairs by September 15, 2018
-demolition of the garage by October 15, 2018
1 making finding resolution will go before LH on August 21 with CCPH on August 22 to
determine if the basement clean-out is abated
1 making finding resolution will go before LH on September 18 with CCPH on Sept 19
to determine if the upstairs is abated
1 making finding resolution will go before LH on October 16 with CCPH on Oct 17 to
determine if the garage is demolished
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/1/2018
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
11 RLH VO 18-25 Appeal of Randall Wilke and Cameron Gilgenbahh to a Fire Certificate
of Occupancy Correction Notice- Complaint Inspection & Order to
Vacate at 1198-1200 LAUREL AVENUE. (Legislative Hearing on July
17)
Sponsors: Thao
Cameron Gilgenbach, owner, and Randall Wilke appeared.
Fire Supervisor A.J. Neis: an anonymous complaint came in about this being an
illegal triplex; Fire Inspector Steve Pieczykolan went out to the property & identified
that there were 3 units in the building on the 1st, 2nd & 3rd (attic) floors; he
Condemned the 3rd floor attic unit; all records point to the fact that this is a duplex
dating back to 2006 when a permit for windows was pulled indicating this was a duplex;
it has never been in the C of O Program; based on that, Insp Pieczykolan issued
Orders Condemning the attic unit; that is being appealed today
Mr. Gilgenbach: I've owned this place since 2007; we are appealing because we'd like
our renter to be able to ride out her lease (end of Aug) or to remove both her stove &
refrigerator; both she & we are willing to do this;
-we are owner-occupants living on the 2nd floor & our dream is to convert the attic a
master suite - making it part of our unit
Ms. Moermond: if they're calling it a 3rd unit, we're talking about separate access to
that unit; does the person who lives there go through your place to get to her place?
Mr. Gilgenbach: it's a locked door
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Mr. Neis: neither occupant has easy access to the others' unit
Ms. Moermond: I'm not thrilled about taking out the refrigerator & stove; I consider
those basic things for living; we're much safer with a refrigerator & stove than we are
substituting them with a hot plate, etc;
-you can take this to Zoning if you want to make the determination that you are a
triplex or you can empty the unit; it sounds like you are more interested in making it
part of your unit
Mr. Gilgenbach: once she's out & we can rent it any more; we're going to make it our
master suite but I would like to give her 60 days to find a new place
Ms. Moermond: I will go out to Oct 1 to empty the attic unit or for the house to be a
legal triplex
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Grant until October 1, 2018 to get Zoning approval to be used as a triplex or the
property must be vacated. (Owner can remove the placard.)
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/18/2018
12 RLH VO 18-19 Appeal of Lavonne Louismet Deyo to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of
Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 132 WESTERN AVENUE SOUTH.
Sponsors: Noecker
Laura Jelinek, Attorney and Mr. Al Harris, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal
Services (SMRLS) appeared;
Katie Haugen, Social Worker, The House Calls Program, Ramsey County, also
appeared.
Fire Supervisor A.J. Neis: waiting on a Work Plan
Ms. Jelinek: we did submit a Work Plan dated Jun 19, 2018; waiting for your approval
-re probate: our first attorney determined the case too difficult; our new attorney is a
full time probate attorney, Drew Basey, & he is on SMRLS board of directors; so, I feel
like I'm in good hands
Ms. Moermond: is there outstanding property taxes?
Ms. Jelinek: yes; Mr. Basey explained to me that even though title hasn't transferred,
Ms. Deyo is responsible for the taxes under probate laws; our next step is to work on
those ($6686.44 total)
Ms. Moermond: for our purposes, we'd like to actually see title registered with Ramsey
County; these things usually take 3-6 months; does Ms. Deyo have resources to pay
the taxes? Does she have the ability to pull equity out of the house, if necessary?
Ms. Jelinek: she may; I was contacted by the Land Trust folks & he said that they
had resources to get the taxes paid; he is amazingly resourceful
Ms. Moermond: last question re item #9 - replacing the door in the bedroom -
estimated completion date: end of Dec 2018; why so long to complete a simple door
on a bedroom?
Ms. Jelinek: I didn't think that it was an emergency; so, I was using my budgeting
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power & the bedroom door was last on the list
Mr. Harris: the guy doing the repairs said that doors were pretty expensive - between
$200-$300
Ms. Moermond: OK; so, based on this, we have 2 deadlines: 1) Sep 30, 2018
deadline; and 2) Jan 1, 2019 deadline; I accept this plan & they can do a re-inspection
accordingly
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Grant to September 30 for the remaining items except the transfer of title, back door
and bedroom repairs which shall have a deadline of January 1, 2019.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/1/2018
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
13 RLH VO 18-30 Appeal of Camille Perry to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of Occupancy
and Order to Vacate at 71 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Camille Perry & Larry Arman appeared.
Fire Supervisor Leanna Shaff: this was in LH a couple weeks ago; your
recommendation was to grant 2 weeks for toilet repair, gas line connection, smoke/CO
detectors, water heater installation permit finaled, etc; Insp Franquiz went out Jun 27,
2018 & was allowed access by Mr. Arman; he says that all deficiencies had been done
except for the permit; husband informed him that he's been unable to reach the
contractor; Insp Franquiz consulted with his supervisor, Insp Neis & was instructed to
Revoke the Fire Certificate of Occupancy for non compliance; so we're here not only
on the Fire C of O Orders but also the Revocation
-Supervisor Neis staffed this at the last hearing & it looks like the Appellants were to
come up with a Work Plan on Jul 31, 2018
Ms. Perry: we tried to figure out something for the water heater permit; we cannot find
this contractor & I've called multiple companies and with plumbing issues, they don't
want to put their name on someone else's work; a few places are willing to un-install &
re-install the water heater for $1200-$1500; yesterday, I was contacted by my mother's
friend, who's a plumber, who is willing to come out to check if it's done right; I'm in
school full time & don't have $1500 just laying around
-I've been in contact with the mortgage company to get all the proof of ownership
paperwork done; entered the initial paperwork
Ms. Moermond: Kirkland Investors LLC will be working with the county to get the title
squared away (email dated yesterday); setting aside the permitting issue, where are
you at with the rest of the repairs?
Ms. Perry: there are a few things that we could possibly get done like the window
screens but we are so stressed for cash; we own a business, too, that's registered to
the home & we just got a transmission repair (worked on right now); I have 3 kids & am
in school full time; I don't think the things on the list are very dangerous & the
aesthetic things are not a big deal for me; we have limited funds; we're buying on
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Contract for Deed; if our mortgage company would have filed the paperwork correctly, I
would not have needed an inspection; now, we're between a rock & a hard place; we
can get the Work Plan done by Jul 31, 2018
-I had a contractor come in to give us some estimates; entered to show Ms. Moermond
what it's going to cost
Ms. Moermond: these estimates are talking about more than the Orders; the Orders
are more about repairs; these estimates seem more like total rehab; I'm fully willing to
work with you, the Work Plan - what you think is doable; as soon as the ownership
issue fades away, you'll be out of the Fire C of O Program but you'll still need to get
the repairs done because this will be transferred to Code Enforcement & will be
enforced differently (easier, I think)
Ms. Shaff: you have to hire a licensed contractor for the water heater permit
Mr. Arman: we're just asking not to be rushed; I'm a tow truck driver; I don't have any
time
Ms. Moermond: do the dryer venting more quickly; you can email the Work Plan to me
by Jul 31; bring me something that you can manage; enforcement is stayed; you can
remove the placard; CCPH Aug 8, 2018
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Grant until July 31, 2018 for appellant to provide a work plan for consideration
(appellant can remove the placard). Staff Report Only.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/31/2018
14 RLH VO 18-31 Appeal of Laura Orr, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services, on
behalf of Sandra Gustafson, to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection
(which includes condemnation) at 899 CLEVELAND AVENUE SOUTH,
UNIT 512.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Laura Orr, Attorney, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services (SMRLS) o/b/o
Sandra Gustafson
Katie Haugen, The House Calls Program, Ramsey County
John Whatley, St. Paul Public Housing, City Attorney's Office
Condemnation of Unit 512, 899 Cleveland Avenue
Supervisor Leanna Shaff: started out as a referral; Insp Huseby went out to Unit 512;
found fruit flies; huge cockroach infestation; there's a lot of items strewn through the
unit; it's hard to get through; unfortunately, Ms. Gustafson has some medical issues
that prevent her from doing the work by herself; Insp Huseby went back to re-inspect
(photos in file); there's been some progress made but the cockroaches/fruit flies are
still there; & there's still a lot of stuff; we were holding off because we were of the
understanding as of Fri afternoon that there was going to be somebody in there on Sat
to give a bid on what it would take to clean the place; we didn't want to make any more
judgements until we got information on that course; & that's where we're at today
Ms. Moermond: tell me a little bit about your client
Ms. Orr: entered photos; we are a week advanced from the last photos taken Jul 10; a
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cleaning service visited yesterday; 20-yard dumpster was brought out on site;
extermination services were scheduled at 11 am today contracted by St. Paul Public
Housing Agency, Mr. Whatley's client
Mr. Whatley: I believe the first extermination treatment was conducted this morning;
the condition of the unit prevented successful treatment earlier; the unit just recently
became in ready condition to be treated; I haven't consulted on how that went; it will
require a revisit to treat; they treat everything accessible to stop it from spreading
Ms. Orr: we are appealing to ask that the Vacate Orders be lifted immediately so that
Ms. Gustafson can return to the apartment; now that the cleanup service was
preformed yesterday & the first round of extermination was performed; & provided that
Ms. Gustafson complies with continued extermination instructions, there should be no
reason why she shouldn't be able to return living there; she has been living in Motel 6,
which is not handicapped accessible; she has severe arthritis & needs a walker; she
has been physically ill & has been unable to do things; now, she's in a condition where
she can get back to her place
Ms. Moermond: is this something that House Calls has been able to assist with?
Ms. Haugen: she is in a hotel with our grant money; only for 5 days though
Ms. Shaff: is there a plan going forward because she does have such health issues
that she would need to be getting help so that she is not in this place again?
Ms. Orr: she has made her request for reasonable accommodations for disabilities
with St. Paul Public Housing for a tranfer to a more accessible unit; she has to apply
for the service programs
Ms. Moermond: is that something that House Calls can help facilitate?
Ms. Haugen: we don't provide that service but she does has a social worker who will
help her follow up
Mr. Orr: she is currently looking at a private individual who can help her; those
services are only offered at certain St. Paul Public Housing High Rise Bldgs, that's
why she is asking for a transfer to one of those bldgs; I understand that Mr. Whatley's
client has intent to ____a grant in her request for a transfer until the immediate
Condemnation issues are resolved
Ms. Moermond: I will go ahead & recommend that Ms. Gustafson will be allowed to
re-occupy today; the cleanup has taken place & the extermination has started
-this goes to City Council Public Hearing on Aug 1, 2018
-I'm going to condition her re-occupation on her continued cooperation with
extermination services & not re-cluttering her unit so that there needs to be some
monitoring; don't know who that will be thru because as you know, there's a propensity
to re-fill places where there's been hoarding/clutter, etc, especially when there's been
infestation problems
Ms. Orr: 2 of Ms. Gustafson's adult children have been very engaging on this - trying
to help their mother
Ms. Shaff: can we expect to do some inspections some time in the near future?
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Ms. Moermond: make an appointment any time next week to check on
safety/de-cluttering
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Grant appeal to re-occupy the unit on condition that appellant cooperates with the
extermination and continued efforts to de-clutter her unit.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/1/2018
15 RLH FCO Appeal of Barbara Ransom, Ree Parkside LLC, to a Fire Certificate of
18-115 Occupancy Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at 250 FIFTH
STREET EAST. (To be referred back to Legislative Hearing on
November 6)
Sponsors: Noecker
Barbara Ransom, Ree Parkside LLC/C/O Real Estate Equities, appeared along with
Chuck Repke.
Ms. Moermond: NOTE: the appeal documents reference an attached letter; there's a
note here that says our front desk didn't find an attached letter
Ms. Ransom: there is no attachment; see email from me
Fire Supervisor Leanna Shaff: Correction Notice from a complaint inspection
conducted by Inspector David Smith; it has 1 deficiency on it (photos): all the dryers
are vented inside the bldg; the Order says that they need to comply with the
Mechanical Code and be vented outside
Mr. Repke: first, to be clear, those buildings were rehabbed, initially, in the 1980's;
so, this condition has existed since at least 1986; and my client acquired the bldg in
2012 with these dryers & this system; & to be able to comply in the short time stated
in the Order, is impossible, because we have one additional problem, which is that
we're in an HPC District - this is an historic bldg; when you think about drilling 59 holes
into the side of an historic bldg to vent......... they're not going to be thrilled; so, it's
going to take some time to work out a plan
Ms. Shaff: there are manufacturers that make dryers that do not have to vent outside
(an option)
Ms. Moermond: that would also be a significant investment
Ms. Shaff: but it may be easier than drilling 59 holes in the bldg
Mr. Repke: we need to be able to talk to the HPC & you know how long it takes to get
on their agenda; my preference would be to get 120 days to be able to come back to
you with a plan (it's existed for 30+ years without there being any great mold growth;
without there ever being a fire in the bldg; the vent filter dumps the lint into a wet cup
to reduce the potential of there being a fire (the lint trap blows the lint into the water);
so, it's not a particularly combustible material anymore; the moist air has never shown
signs of there being any mold anywhere; so, I would like a reasonable period of time
so that we can discuss this with the HPC to see what's possible
Ms. Moermond: this goes to Council on Aug 15, 2018; at that time, I will ask them to
refer it back to LH on Nov 5, 2018 when we can review any plan of action with an
appropriate deadline
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To be referred back to Legislative Hearing on November 6.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
16 RLH FCO Appeal of Jeffrey Peterson to a Correction Notice- Complaint Inspection
18-114 at 1082 JAMES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Jeffrey Allen Peterson, 1082 James LLC, owner, & Jeff Bergeaux, Program Mgr for
Better Ways __ __, appeared.
Fire Supervisor Leanna Shaff: I'm the inspector at this property; there are photos;
being appealed today is the upper level attic expansion; it has sloped ceilings; the
code requires that half the floor area needs to be at or above 7 ft in height; about 1/3
of this one is 79 inches
Ms. Moermond: compliance with these Orders means either you make the ceiling
taller or vacate that room;
Ms. Shaff: it looks like it was converted quite some time ago
Ms. Moermond: It should have been communicated that I don't do variances on ceiling
height; you need to go to Steve Ubl, the city's Building Official to seek a variance in
ceiling height; I can work with you on deadlines on the C of O Orders; right now, the
Order is asking for compliance by Aug 2, 2018; tell me a little bit about your
occupancy & how long it would take for you to come into compliance
Mr. Peterson: Jeff started the Sober Living Company in 2017; he's been with us since
Jan 5, 2017 & it was Feb of Mar when we started occupying this new house on James
with some of our residence; so, he's been there for 15 months; he's stayed sober - this
has been conducive to his recovery to be in that space; if we do have to get him out of
that room, which he's been in for quite some time & find somewhere else for him in
other properties - it would be displacing him when he's pretty comfortable staying here
& has the fellowship of the others who live there
Ms. Moermond: it's been conducive to be in sober housing, I don't know how much a
particular room or ceiling slope has to do with that situation
Mr. Peterson: I don't know if we could raise the roof or get this appeal by the building
official by Aug 2, 2017
Ms. Moermond: the building official usually turns them around pretty quickly but I
would say that I haven't seen one granted to this extent but that doesn't mean that I
won't see one; but maybe someone else in the house would be willing to move to
another house
Mr. Peterson: we have 5 other sober homes; ......& I think that because our tenants
have a disability status, they should get an accommodation
Ms. Moermond: actually, it would not be a case of a reasonable accommodation for a
specific room; that does not apply at all as a term for this situation
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Ms. Shaff: I had encouraged them to appeal to look for a different outcome; I would
certainly support giving them some time to make a decision
Ms. Moermond:
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Grant to October 1, 2018 to have the attic space vacated.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
17 RLH VO 18-32 Appeal of Laura Jelinek, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services,
on behalf of Lakeisha Ivy, to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice, which
includes condemnation, at 527 TEDESCO STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Per Laura Jelinek, SMRLS on behalf of tenants, stated that the tenants have vacated
the unit and there is no longer a need for a hearing. They have canceled the appeal.
Withdrawn
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
18 RLH VBR 18-39 Appeal of Michael and Rebecca Amidon to a Vacant Building
Registration Notice at 1285 BEECHWOOD PLACE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Rebecca A. Amidon, owner, appeared.
Supervisor Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings: VB Inspector Mike Kalis made this a
Category 1 VB per code enforcement referral due to a complaint from St. Paul
Regional Water Services; water service has been off since 2015; Insp Kalis confirmed
that the water had been off since 2015; he went to inspect & he found the building
vacant & secured by normal means; & the property area was in fair shape; photos;
from what we could tell, it's a vacant home with no water
Ms. Moermond: what's going on?
Ms. Amidon: we are remodeling the kitchen in the house but it's taking longer than we
expected; we think that we're going to move into it; my husband does most of the work
there; he also works full time at another job; we pay the water bill so, I assumed that
there was water; it's a surprise about the water; I'm going to call Water Services; will
be finished remodeling around Jan 1, 2019; we do have lawn service & keep the house
up
Ms. Moermond: will recommend waiving the VB fee for 90 days so you can pull
permits
Ms. Amidon: we want a big kitchen-family room area
Mr. Dornfeld: I'll have her call me Oct 1 to schedule an inspection
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Ms. Moermond:
Waive the VB fee for 90 days.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
19 RLH VBR 18-41 Appeal of Anh Pham to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 1113
GALTIER STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Anh Pham appeared.
Supervisor Matt Dornfeld, Vacant Buildings: this is a Category 2 Vacant Building; the
Appellant was approved by our Sale Review Office to purchase the property in Aug
2017; all permits are on file; there's not been a nuisance complaint; I'm assuming we're
here to discuss the VB fee that is past due since Jun 30, 2018
Ms. Pham: we hired a guy who was supposed to complete the job in May but he had
to go to Vietnam, so that put us backward; he'll be back this or next month; if you
could give me more time - I paid him half the money already so, I don't want to call
someone else; I don't know how long it will take but if you could give me 3 months
Ms. Moermond: if it takes longer than 3 months, appeal the VB assessment & we can
talk & I can prorate
Waive the VB fee for 90 days.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
20 RLH VBR 18-42 Appeal of Desta Bedasso to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 685
MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Desta R. Bedasso, owner, appeared.
Supervisor Matt Dornfeld: this is a Category 2 Vacant Building; opened Mar 2016; Mr.
Bedasso was approved to purchase this property on Mar 10, 2017; all permits are on
file; we got 1 TGW complaint but we did not have to update that - is now in
compliance; VB Insp Tom Friel issued a 90-day VB waiver on Mar 23, 2018 (good thru
Jun 18, 2018); this VB fee that was due in Mar has gone to assessment as of Jul 2,
2018; I'm assuming that we're here today to discuss that fee
Ms. Moermond: you have already gotten a 90-day VB fee waiver; tell me what's going
on?
Mr. Bedasso: has just taken more time than anticipated; just need a short time to do
the touch-ups (more talking but audio is muffled)
Ms. Moermond: where are the permits at?
Mr. Dornfeld: all permits are open; went to assessment Jul 2, 2018
Ms. Moermond: the LH for that assessment will be on Sep 4, 2018 at 9 am in this
room; I promise that if you're done at that time, I'll cut the VB fee in half
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Deny the appeal; VB fee has gone to assessment and is scheduled for LH on 9/4/18.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
21 RLH VBR 18-43 Appeal of George Stone to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at
1079 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
George B. Stone, owner, appeared.
Fire Supervisor Leanna Shaff: this started out as Fire Certificate of Occupancy Orders
in 2016 with Fire Inspector Efrayn Franquiz; the Orders were not complied with (long
term noncompliance); went to the Vacant Building Program in 2016; on Sep 14, 2017,
we discovered that the VB file was closed; it needs a re-inspection; now, Fire Insp
Niemeyer has been assigned to this area; he writes that St. Paul Regional Water
Services & Xcel show that there has not been any usage at the property; an email has
been sent to Rich Singerhouse & Tom Friel & myself that this property should still be
in the VB Program; don't know why that file was closed; Feb 2, 2018, Insp Niemeyer
conducted a property check; the bldg appeared to still be vacant; front door boarded
up; he reviewed that we me; we sent email to VB - that the bldg is still vacant
Mr. Dornfeld: on Jun 7, 2018, Insp Tom Friel writes as follows: this is a 1 1/2 story
wood frame single family house with at detached 1 car garage; Insp Singerhouse & I
inspected the property & it appears vacant & is secure; the front door & window on
front porch are boarded; referred by Fire Insp Niemeyer; Certificate of Occupancy still
shows "Revoked" from 2016; per Fire Insp Littleton, no water usage; owner had
previously indicated that he was moving or that he was living here occasionally;
ownership indicates him living at another address, per Ramsey County; house is partly
boarded; will open a Cat 2 VB
Ms. Moermond: your appealing; what's going on?
Mr. Stone: this was my parents home; I lived there with my mother & took care of her
until she passed in 1999 & I addressed it with everybody; Mr. Friel was very kind; he
counseled me & suggested what to do; when those placards went up, there was
kicking in doors & breaking glass, etc; I got a realtor involved; I was going to sell the
house; it was an emotional thing; the early part of 2017, I incurred a Staph infection &
had to have hand surgery; I wasn't able to do much then with the property; I had always
taken care of it; I'm there constantly; I've painted quite a few rooms; I've had carpet put
in; I want to get on this wonderful market & sell it; in 2017, the church next door
wanted to lease the house for some of their parishioners; I told then that I couldn't do
that; I have a neighbor now who wants to have some relatives look at it; i'ts been an
emotional ride
-the front door was boarded up but it wasn't visible from the street; I painted the
exterior, etc; I tried to get the woodwork cleaned up; that house was an absolute mess
when I got it back; I hauled about 10 loads of stuff out of there & I finally got
everything out - I want to sell it
Ms. Moermond: so, in Dec 2016, Council changed the status from Cat 2 to Cat 1 VB
& granted an extension to Jan 1, 2017 to get your C of O re-instated; if the Fire C of O
cannot be re-instated then, a code compliance inspection would be required; that was
the recommendation to the Council and the Fire C of O was not re-instated according
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the report I just received and there's no code compliance inspection on file
-it's time to get a code compliance inspection, which was described in the letters that
you've received indicating that you needed to register this as a Vacant Building
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Waive the VB fee for 90 days but the appellant needs to go through a code
compliance inspection.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
22 RLH VBR 18-28 Appeal of Ryan Kempenich to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at
1464 MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST.
Sponsors: Henningson
LO to Jul 24, 2018; No one appeared.
Laid Over to the Legislative Hearings due back on 7/24/2018
23 RLH SAO 18-43 Appeal of Deanna Dorf to a Summary Abatement Order at 2101 KNAPP
STREET.
Sponsors: Henningson
Marcia Moermond reading Deanna Dorf's email of appeal.
-what is the condition of the garage?
Matt Dornfeld (provided photos)
-has no entry to the garage
Marcia Moermond:
-deny the appeal. There were two orders, one for tall, grass & weeds and one for the
garage.
-proceed with the demolition after the 25th
Referred to the City Council due back on 7/25/2018
3:00 p.m. Hearings
Other
24 RLH OA 18-5 Appeal of Tom Harrington to a denial of a Request for Fence Variance at
1011 JESSIE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Tom Harrington appeared. Fence Variance
Ms. Moermond: you were turned down for a fence permit by the City's Building Official,
Steve Ubl; you applied for a 5 ft high fence along the front sidewalk to keep large
German Shepherds from putting their heads over the fence when people walk by; you
provided a diagram in your application of where you wanted the fence to go (40 feet of a
5 ft high fence in front yard along the sidewalk); I have a picture of your property, an
elevation map and an aerial photo
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Mr. Harrington: he came up to verify his property
-there'd be a 1 1/2 foot setback from the sidewalk to allow room for a hosta border; we
want an open metal bar fencing between wood posts; the only adjustable fence I could
find because there is a little slope (discussing elevation map with Ms. Moermond)
-the dogs are in the front yard & side yard; I have a motor home & fire pit in the back
Ms. Moermond: I'm going to agree with the building official; these are not exceptional
circumstances; in the long run, I think it's really hard on neighborhoods to have these
extra tall fences in the front yard
Mr. Harrington: there are 5 ft - 6 ft fences in the front yard all over the neighborhood
Ms. Moermond: they can be from the front of the house back; I will recommend
denial; the Council could look at this differently
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Deny the appeal.
Referred to the City Council due back on 8/15/2018
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Agenda
15 West Kellogg Blvd.
City of Saint Paul Saint Paul, MN 55102
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
Legislative Hearings
Marcia Moermond, Legislative Hearing Officer
Mai Vang, Hearing Coordinator
Jean Birkholz, Hearing Secretary
legislativehearings@ci.stpaul.mn.us
651-266-8585
Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:00 AM Room 330 City Hall & Court House
9:00 a.m. Hearings
Remove/Repair Orders
1 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 1332
18-28 DAYTON AVENUE within fifteen (15) days after the August 15, 2018, City
Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 1332 Dayton Ave.OTA 4-25-18
1332 Dayton Ave.PH 6-8-18
1332 Dayton Ave.SHPO 5-8-18
1332 Dayton Ave.Expired Code Compliance 5-4-15
1332 Dayton Ave.Photos 4-19-18
1332 Dayton Ave.Photos 4-27-18
1332 Dayton Ave.Gerrety Systems Inc Electrical Bid.7-13-18.pdf
1332 Dayton Ave.B&B Plumbing Bid.7-9-18.pdf
1332 Dayton Ave.Ltr from William Lesher of Drake Bank-unacceptable.7-17-18.pdf
1332 Dayton Ave.Financial Doc.7-17-18.pdf
1332 Dayton Ave.MN Dept of Revenue E-Certificate of RE Value.pdf
1332 Dayton Ave.Mespo Heating & Cooling Bid.7-9-18.pdf
2 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at
18-29 769-771 UNIVERSITY AVENUE WEST within fifteen (15) days after the
August 15, 2018, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 769-771 University Ave W.OTA 4-25-18
769-771 University Ave W.PH 6-8-18
769-771 University Ave W.SHPO Form 6-14-18
769-771 University Ave W.#1 Photos 4-13-18
769-771 University Ave W.#2 Photos 4-13-18
769 University Ave W.BZA Documents 5-21-18
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3 RLH RR Ordering the rehabilitation or razing and removal of the structures at 877
18-30 WOODBRIDGE STREET within fifteen (15) days after the August 15,
2018, City Council Public Hearing.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 877 Woodbridge St.OTA 4-19-18
877 Woodbridge St.PH 6-8-18
877 Woodbridge St.Expired Code Compliance 2-9-12
877 Woodbridge St.SHPO Form 6-14-18
877 Woodbridge St.Photos 4-12-18
10:00 a.m. Hearings
Special Tax Assessments
4 SR 18-103 Review request of Owner, Lynn Fagerness, dba Amadeus Holdings LLC,
to a Ratification of Assessment File RLH AR 18-5, adopted by City Council
on February 28, 2018, for property at 1119 RAYMOND AVENUE 2. (File
No. VB1805, Assessment No. 188804)
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 1119 Raymond Ave.Fagerness Ltr.7-2-18.doc
1119 Raymond Ave.VB Registration.6-8-17
1119 Raymond Ave.VB Reg Warning Ltr.7-10-17
1119 Raymond Ave.VB Reg Warning Ltr.10-24-17
1119 Raymond Ave.Team Code Compliance Insp Rpt.9-26-17
1119 Raymond Ave.Fire C of O Revocation.4-26-17
1119 Raymond Ave.Photos.4-25-17
11:00 a.m. Hearings
Summary Abatement Orders
5 RLH SAO Appeal of Elizabeth G. Burr to a Summary Abatement Order at 2025
18-39 FAIRMOUNT AVENUE.
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 2025 Fairmount Ave.appeal.7-5-18
2025 Fairmount Ave.photo 6-28-18
2025 Fairmount Ave.Owner Photos.7-17-18.pdf
6 RLH SAO Appeal of Rynn Burke to a Summary Abatement Order at 1729
18-44 RANDOLPH AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 1729 Randolph Ave.appeal.7-10-2018
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1729 Randolph Avenue.appellant photos 7-10-18
1729 Randolph Ave.Owner Photos.7-17-18.pdf
7 RLH SAO Appeal of Juliana Winner and Sei Ko to a Summary Abatement Order at
18-41 386 ROSE AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 386 Rose Ave E.appeal.7-5-18
386 Rose Ave E.SAO w Photo.6-25-18
386 Rose Ave E.Site Plan of Property.7-17-18.pdf
386 Rose Ave E.Owner Photo.7-17-18.pdf
386 Rose Ave E.More Owner Photos.7-17-18.pdf
386 Rose Ave E.Neighboring Photos.7-17-18.pdf
8 RLH SAO Appeal of John Flaherty to a Summary Abatement Order at 38 WYOMING
18-42 STREET EAST.
Sponsors: Noecker
Attachments: 38 Wyoming St E.appeal.7-6-18
9 RLH CO Amending Council File RLH CO 18-1, adopted January 17, 2018, to grant
18-29 the appeal for Nancy Mork & Amy Mork for property at 601 CALIFORNIA
AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 601 California Ave E.Minutes.6-12-18.pdf
601 California Ave E.email.7-13-18.pdf
10 RLH SAO Appeal of Harlan Dorman to a Summary Abatement Order and Correction
18-45 Notice at 547 STINSON STREET.
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 547 Stinson St.appeal.7-12-18
547 Stinson St.Correction Notice.5-24-18.pdf
11:30 a.m. Hearings
Orders To Vacate, Condemnations and Revocations
11 RLH VO Appeal of Randall Wilke and Cameron Gilgenbahh to a Fire Certificate of
18-25 Occupancy Correction Notice- Complaint Inspection & Order to Vacate at
1198-1200 LAUREL AVENUE. (Legislative Hearing on July 17)
Sponsors: Thao
Attachments: 1198-1200 Laurel Ave.appeal.6-7-2018
1198-1200 Laurel Ave.photo.6-4-2018
1198-1200 Laurel Ave.photos.5-25-2018
1198-1200 Laurel Ave.Vang-Appellant email.6-18-18.pdf
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12 RLH VO Appeal of Lavonne Louismet Deyo to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of
18-19 Occupancy and Order to Vacate at 132 WESTERN AVENUE SOUTH. (To
be referred to Legislative Hearing July 17)
Sponsors: Noecker
Attachments: 132 Western Ave S.Photos.11-29-17
132 Western Ave S.Photos.2-5-18.pdf
132 Western Ave S.Deyo Ltr.5-3-18.doc
132 Western Ave.appeal.4-26-2018
132 Western Ave S.Deyo Revised Ltr.5-31-18.doc
132 Western Ave S.chain emails.6-4-18.pdf
132 Western Ave S.Service Report - 5-25-18.pdf
132 Western Ave S.Fire C of O Orders-Updated.6-5-18
132 Western Ave S.Photos.6-5-18
132 Western Ave S.Legal Aide letter.6-5-18.pdf
132 Western Ave S.Deyo Ltr.6-8-18.doc
21 Wesetern Ave S,SMRLS Ltr-Workplan.6-19-18
132 Western Ave S.Deyo Ltr.6-22-18.doc
1:30 p.m. Hearings
Fire Certificates of Occupancy
13 RLH VO Appeal of Camille Perry to a Revocation of Fire Certificate of Occupancy
18-30 and Order to Vacate at 71 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 71 Maryland Ave. E.appeal.07-10-2018
71 Maryland Ave. E.photos.3-21-2018
71 Maryland Ave. E.photos.6-29-2018
14 RLH VO Appeal of Laura Orr, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services, on
18-31 behalf of Sandra Gustafson, to a Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection
(which includes condemnation) at 899 CLEVELAND AVENUE SOUTH,
UNIT 512.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 899 Cleveland Ave S.appeal.7-13-18
899 Cleveland Ave S.photos 7-5-18
15 RLH FCO Appeal of Barbara Ransom, Ree Parkside LLC, to a Fire Certificate of
18-115 Occupancy Correction Notice-Complaint Inspection at 250 FIFTH STREET
EAST.
Sponsors: Noecker
Attachments: 250 5th St. E.appeal.7-10-2018
250 5th St. E.e-mail.7-10-2018
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250 5th St. E.photo.6-19-2018
16 RLH FCO Appeal of Jeffrey Peterson to a Correction Notice- Complaint Inspection at
18-114 1082 JAMES AVENUE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 1082 James Ave.appeal.7-10-2018
1082 James Ave.photos.7-3-2018
17 RLH VO Appeal of Laura Jelinek, Southern Minnesota Regional Legal Services, on
18-32 behalf of Lakeisha Ivy, to a Fire Inspection Correction Notice, which
includes condemnation, at 527 TEDESCO STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 527 Tedesco St.appeal.7-14-18
527 Tedesco St.photos 7-13-18
527 Tedesco Street.Email 7-16-18
2:30 p.m. Hearings
Vacant Building Registrations
18 RLH VBR Appeal of Michael and Rebecca Amidon to a Vacant Building Registration
18-39 Notice at 1285 BEECHWOOD PLACE.
Sponsors: Tolbert
Attachments: 1285 Beechwood Pl.appeal.6-28-2018
19 RLH VBR Appeal of Anh Pham to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 1113
18-41 GALTIER STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1113 Galtier St.appeal.7-2-18
1113 Galtier St.Order to Vacate.6-29-17
1113 Galtier St.Photos #1.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #2.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #3.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #4.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #5.6-29-17.pdf.doc
1113 Galtier St.Photos #6.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #7.6-29-17.pdf
1113 Galtier St.Photos #8.6-29-17.pdf
20 RLH VBR Appeal of Desta Bedasso to a Vacant Building Registration Fee at 685
18-42 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 685 Maryland Ave E.appeal.7-5-18
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21 RLH VBR Appeal of George Stone to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at 1079
18-43 MARYLAND AVENUE EAST.
Sponsors: Bostrom
Attachments: 1079 Maryland Ave E.appeal.7-6-18
1079 Maryland Ave E.photos 6-11-18
1079 Maryland Ave E.Fire C of O Revocation.12-21-16
22 RLH VBR Appeal of Ryan Kempenich to a Vacant Building Registration Notice at
18-28 1464 MINNEHAHA AVENUE WEST.
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 1464 Minnehaha Ave W.appeal.5-17-18
1464 Minnehaha Ave W.Kempenich Ltr.6-8-18.doc
23 RLH SAO Appeal of Deanna Dorf to a Summary Abatement Order at 2101 KNAPP
18-43 STREET.
Sponsors: Henningson
Attachments: 2101 Knapp St.appeal.7-9-2018
2101 Knapp St.e-mail.7-10-2018
3:00 p.m. Hearings
Other
24 RLH OA 18-5 Appeal of Tom Harrington to a denial of a Request for Fence Variance at
1011 JESSIE STREET.
Sponsors: Brendmoen
Attachments: 1011 Jessie St.appeal.7-11-2018
1011 Jessie St - Google Maps
1011 Jessie St.Aerial Map
1011 Jessie St.Topo Map
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