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Regular MeetingWestmont, IL · April 17, 2014
Minutes
MINUTES
Regular Meeting
Building and Zoning Committee of the Board
April 17, 2014
1. The meeting was called to order by Chair Barry at 5:00 P.M.
Present: Trustees Barry, Barker, Addington, Scott and Senicka, Clerk Szymski, Steve May, Jill
Ziegler, Larry Forssberg, Police Chief Tom Mulhearn
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. Minutes from January 23, 2013 were reviewed
4. Unfinished Business
A. Discussion
● Fencing requirements for limited construction - If an addition is being built on Cass Avenue
and it is close to the sidewalk or bus stop or a house is a short distance away from the new
construction, a chainlink fence should also be required where there is a safety concern. We don’t
want to be more stringent or less stringent than other villages. We will have to be somewhere in the
middle. Kids seek out these building if they know no one lives there and a fence would keep them
out. We need to put together some language and define the threshold for what type of street it is, or
if it is within 15 feet from a right of way, or the dollar amount.
Larry McIntyre - We don’t want to come across as developer unfriendly and require unnecessary
expense. Maybe this is something staff could look at when the permit is being obtained.
This will look cleaner, safer and more professional. There was a suggestion to put together some
language for this change.
● Comprehensive Plan Design Guidelines - The final step of the Comprehensive Plan is the
Design Guidelines. It will be used with the TIF to recommend what the Village would like to see
when a developer approaches with a project. It will be a basis to go on and will be very helpful for a
potential site downtown or the Cass and 63rd Street area of town. Developers can be provided with
a copy of the guidelines. It shows what can be done with different setback, outdoor dining and
landscaping and different architecture.
Please give Jill Ziegler any comments you may have on the Design Guidelines and she will pass them
on with her comments to make changes.
B. Updates
● Text amendment for construction fences - All construction fences need to be chainlink with
a gate and lock. It is up and running and it is good to see everything protected in addition to the
on-site trees.
● Permit placard - On the back of the permit placard, the building rules and regulations are
listed for projects. The placards were in use before the ordinance was passed. Design suggestions for
the metal placards that will be used for new construction came from Larry McIntyre. He received
opinions from Village Hall employees. The rules and text will be on the backside and will be hung on
the construction fence so the contractors can read them. There were a couple of different design
suggestions. It was questioned why Westmont First was on it and not a Village logo. There were
several examples shown with Westmont First and the Village logo, and “Another Beautification
Project in the Neighborhood”. If there are concerns or questions, the phone number will be on the
front and back. From an artistic standpoint, red, white, and blue would be nicer than a monotone. It
would be framed with a blue and white border. The Village will be making 6 to 10 signs. When this
sign is in place on the fence, it will let the public know that the project was approved by the Village.
To get the permit bond, the contractor would have to return the sign.
It would be good to put the QR code on the sign so that someone could scan it to get the information
of the Community Development Department.
● Text amendment for maximum garage size - After having received a request for a
detached garage of 1,000 sq. ft. which was equivalent to a 5-car garage plus an attached garage for 3
cars on a 100 ft by 300 ft lot, staff recommending restricting the total square footage of attached
garages. Staff requested direction on how to proceed, and Planning and Zoning Commission
suggested a text amendment. The attorney noted that if more than 50% of the residential structure
is used for storage within an attached garage, then it is not being used as a house.
● Text amendment for sandwich board signs in B-2 General Business District - A text
amendment was completed to give B-2 General Business District the same flexibility as the B-1
Limited District to use sandwich boards for advertising.
● ISO update - building code amendments - Vicki Senesac spoke regarding the ISO rating of
the Village which was lowered from 4 to 10 (the lowest rating). The main reason was that the Village
is using an old Building Code, the 2003 ICC International Building Code, and the Village needs to
update to raise the ISO rating. Vicki looked at using the 2006 ICC International Building Code, but
after speaking with the Fire Department, they suggested using the 2012 ICC International Building
Code. She has put together a draft ordinance. She has also put together a document of the
significant changes that will result including the residential sprinkler code requirement. The cost is
approximately $ 2 - 3.00 / sq. ft. There are many misnomers and rumors about how residential
sprinklers really work. Ninety-two jurisdictions around Westmont have adopted it. Larry Kaufman
of the Fire Department reviewed the code and did a comparison. The sprinkler code for residential
can be amended but that may have an effect on the ISO rating. Sprinklers could also be required for
a minimum square footage home. Vicki asked for recommendations on how to approach the Code
update.
Residential sprinklers are not just the cost of installation. They need to be serviced and monitored
and there is a potential for leaks. Sprinklers can be one of the biggest headaches in building a home
in other communities, like Glen Ellyn, that require the installation of sprinklers.
Chief Weiss - There are more people dying in residential fires than in commercial fires. A fire can
start in a 1,000 sq. ft. home as well as a 5,000 sq. ft. home.
If the Village is concerned about saving lives, all new homes should have to install the sprinklers. If
the Village doesn’t have the sprinkler requirement, the ratings will affect everyone in the
community because of the higher insurance rates.
There was a question about why to require residential sprinklers for just new construction, should
everyone have to do it? The cost of retrofitting an old house is much more costly.
Should there be a meeting on each code? Villages don’t always adopt the newest building codes
because later changes will be made to it.
There was also discussion on other Villages not requiring permits for roofs and windows. If the
inspectors don’t verify the materials that are being used, why require the permits. Should we do
away with these type of permits? It is for the protection of the homeowner to get a permit and to
have the contractors get registered with the Village. This is so they are not using fly-by-night
contractors or to make sure they are licensed by the state. Community Development has checked to
see if other communities don’t require roof permits. There was only one community. It was
mentioned that the Village needs to improve the inspection process. Some communities use
binoculars to do roof inspections.
Ron Searl - The Committee should review the 2012 Building Code and go over the changes. The
Village has more multi-family than single family housing.
It will be helpful to have a document that shows the top 10 list of changes. The Committee can share
the comparison document and have further discussion on it.
C. Updates from Larry Forssberg - Westmont Economic Development Partnership
● WEDP website - Larry brought the committee up to date on the website being created.
● Residential broker discussion - Larry had a meeting with the residential brokers to discuss
what Westmont has to offer and informing of the new website being created. They were asked what
they would like to see and what type of information that can be found on the website such as school
information, showing different properties available.
5. New Business
A. Informational brochures - Brochures are being created for different types of permits that a
resident may need and what additional items they need to bring with them.
B. Clark Station site update - 6101 S. Cass Avenue - The owner met with staff and was told
what action he needed to take with the property. A permit was issued for the demo of the structure
and the parking lot. A chain link fence was put up and the work was started.
6. Other information
The next meeting will be July 10, 2014.
There being no other business for the Committee, a motion was made to adjourn. Motion passed.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:35 P.M.
Agenda
AGENDA
Regular Meeting
Building and Zoning Committee of the Board
Thursday, April 17, 2014, 5:30 p.m.
Village Hall Executive Session Room
31 W. Quincy St., Westmont, IL
Call to order
Roll Call
Pledge of Allegiance
Minutes
1. Minutes from January 23, 2013 to be reviewed
Unfinished Business
1. Discussion
● Fencing requirements for limited construction
● Comprehensive Plan Design Guidelines
2. Updates
● Text amendment for construction fences
● Permit placard
● Text amendment for maximum garage size
● Text amendment for sandwich board signs in B-2 General Business District
● ISO update - building code amendments
3. Updates from Larry Forssberg - Westmont Economic Development Partnership
● WEDP website
● Residential broker discussion
New Business
1. Informational brochures
2. Clark Station site update - 6101 S. Cass Avenue
Other information
Next meeting will be July 10, 2014.
Adjourn