Board of Park Commissioners
Regular MeetingWichita, KS · July 10, 2017
Minutes
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Minutes
Monday, July 10, 2017
3:00- 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
O IT Y OF City Hall, 11th Floor
Park & Recreation Conference Room
WICHITA Wichita, Kansas 67202
Members Present: Cindy Claycomb, Hoyt Hillman, Bill Ramsey; Tori Deatherage
Absent: Troy Palmer, Ron Allen, Eddie Fahnestock
City Staff: Troy Houtman (Director, Park & Recreation), Elizabeth Harlenske (Assistant City Attorney),
Penny Garding (Clerk), Greg Olmer, Troy Hendricks, Larry Hoetmer, Mark Elder
Item Descril!tion
call to Order
Cindy Claycomb, President, called the meeting to order at approximately 3:01 p.m.
Public Comments
Patrick Vo, 10606 E Lockmoor St. There is a need for a soccer field at W.B. Harrison Park. We
are part of a group of 70-80 people who play soccer at least four times a week at the park.
The group consists of many different ethnic backgrounds and has a diverse group of players.
More than 80% of the group live.within a five mile radius. Oftentimes we take our kids to play
on the playground while we play soccer. Currently play is on.a rugby club field when it is
available. For the past month we have been unable play due to w.eed a.nd seed activities. The
rugby field is much .bigger than the soccer field and right now there are no soccer goals. We
need a soccer field at Harrison park and have identified an area within park that could be
used. Looking at the lower right corner of the handout (SE corner), the rectangular border in
red is the rugby field. The area identified as potential for soccer field.is the one to the right of
the rugby field. The problem currently faced is there·are trees as shown on the second page.
We could use this area if the marked trees were removed. Additionally on the bottom of that
page is an area of uneven ground. We would need help leveling that area. The area is30x50
yards. On the last page is a picture taken from Todd Street on the east end of the field
showing the trees in the way. Since we cannot use the rugby field rightnow we are playing in
this area. The trees are in the way. We are requesting assistance from the board to allow
removal of.the five (5) trees, level the area and installation of soccer goals.
Tu Nguyen, 1115 E Tipperary St. We have been using the rugby field for about seven (7)
years, The rugby players do not appreciate us being on their field. They play 2-3 days and we
play four days. The field is badly damaged right now, there are potholes everywhere. We
have looked for fields in a five mile radius. There 80 public soccer fields and 80% of those
players live within a five mile radius.. This is the only park we can bring our families to. There
are amenities for families. We. have been playing there four times a week and have had zero
(0) incidents with police or anyone. It is a safe park, which is why we are requesting the board
to set up the field so we can use it.
Hillman inquired aboutthe difference between an official regulation size. field and the red
square they are asking for? Vo responded this will be a little smaller. The regulation field
width is 50-100 yards in width and the length is 100-130 yards. This will be smaller, but we do
not have other options.
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Houtman stated before we get into details, the currenfrugby field users pay a fee and do a lot
of the maintenance themselves. The second smaller box on the presentation is the proposed
location for our new dog park. Hoetmer and Olmer are helping to find another location for a
soccer field. In addition to the rugby field and the new dog park, we are also adding in a
basketball court. We do want to help you find another park location that might meetyour
needs. Claycomb asked when the construction would start. Houtman responded we are
working on the plans and they are doing the fundraising. We hope to have the dog park there
next year. Claycomb stated construction then would start sometime this year. Houtman
responded probably after Christmas. Claycomb stated to Nguyen and Vo they should
continue to work with Houtman on finding a different location. Houtman added until the.dog
park is in place, they are more than welcome to do what they can to accommodate their
needs.
1 Approve Minutes
Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the June 12, 2017, Board of Park
Commissioners Regular Meeting.
Motion by Ramsey, second by Hillman, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to approve, sign and
file the mim1tes of the June 12, 2017 Board of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting (4-0).
2 Recognition of Citizen Visiting Parks - Houtman
Houtman stated we have someone in the community who is planning on visiting all 115 parks
in the city this summer. When they complete visiting every park, he would like toJnvite them
to a Park Board meeting and give them some type recognition certificate.
3 Naftzger Property Sale - Mark Elder
Ho_utman stated Naftzger Park is owned by the .Board of Park Commissioners. That creates
intricacies we need to deal with. Mark Elder has updates today and each.time we ha_ve a
meeting going forward he will bring an update.
Elder stated the meeting notice is about the sale of the property, but that part is more of a
clarification of previous meetings when we brought forth the proposal how the developer is
looking to straighten out the boundaries. That step requires publication of an urban renewal
notice. We are going through that now. It should.be published this Friday and gives a 30,day
notice for any others interested in making an offer to do so. At the August meeting the Board
will be presented with any other offers that may have been made on that piece of land. If, at
that time, there are no offers, we can go forward with the proposal that has been made by
the developer. This morning was the review meeting which went well. On July 20 will be a
charrette to.start presenting design ideas and getting feedback from the community.
Tomorrow the City Council will be asked to set the date for a public hearing for the park side
of the project. That would be setting August 15 to consider the proposal. That would be 30-
35 days in which there can be public input on the funding mechanism (TIF) part for
redevelopment of the park. It includes the concept ideas we have ana in that time we will be
working on additional design features. This is the funding tool the City will use to finance
those improvements.
Houtman added going through the selection criteria, we received 11 proposals and narrowed
it to three (3). All three are good proposals. We are very ambitious and will get the right
designer.on board and will have a new park in the next year.
Ramsey inquired if there is any estimate onwhen construction will start? Houtman
responded if design is completed by fall, we bid in November, and begin construction in
December-March. Construction is estimated to be about 24-30 weeks. The intent to meet
the NCAA in March 2018. We probably won't meet that. If we have substantial completion of
some of the infrastructure, some of the plantings of trees and vegetation can come in later.
The time of the.season does not warrant planting. It is all going to depend on design.
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4 Recreation Update (Greg Olmer)
Olmer highlighted events from June & July
• Friday, June 2 Riverfest Parade
• Saturday, June 10 Barry the Bison Truck Expo-Naftzger Park
• Thursday, June 15 Barry's Recreation Station-Osage Park
• Saturday, June 17 Housing Expo.-Century II
• Thursday, June 22 Barry's Recreation Station-Buffalo Park
• Saturday, June 24 Cars in the Park-Naftzger Park
• Thursday, June 29 Barry's Recreatio.n Station,Fairmount Park
• Saturday, July 8 Yoga in the. Park-Central Riverside Park
Upcoming events
• Thursday, July 13 6-8 pm Barry's Recreation Station-Orchard Park
• Saturday, July 15 9-11 am Carnival Games-Naftzger Park
• Sunday, July 16 at 1:05. pm Barry the Bison celebrates Spinner's 10th birthday
Lawrence DumontStadium
• Saturday, July 22 1'4 pm Splash Party-Osage Park
Two new staff members have joined Recreation
• Jessica Jones -Administrative Aide II
• Alexandria (Lexi) Miller- Recreation Intern
5 Golf Update (Troy Hendricks)
Hendricks stated rounds are down Y-T-D 6%. Auburn Hills down 1%, Tex Consolver down 5%,
LW Clapp down 15%, MacDonald down 8% and Sim down 4%. Revenue is down 1%, which is
good considering rounds are down 6%.
Encumbrances and Expenditures are up 12%, labor has increased by 6-7%, half of that being
full-time and seasonal staff. Seasonal staffing is up due to special projects this year. Materials
are up in expense mainly due to chemicals. They are up about 4%. Revenue is down only 1%.
We used to use the PGA rounds report. They have quit doing that and now Golf Datatech is
doing it. For May rounds were down 7%, which compares to 4.2% nationally. Public access
golf courses being down 5.2%. We.had less rain in.June than last year. Last year we had 7
inches of rain in 6 days. This year we got 4.5 inches but it was over 13 days so we had seven
more days of rain events that kept people from playing.
Deatherage inquired about the Young Professionals activity that had been talked about
previously. Hendricks responded they are working on that. One thing was to do a top golf
thing. We can do a scoring system through the mobile app. We have targets at two ranges,
up to 100 yards. They are difficult to hit. We are looking at some different types of targets to
utilize. Deatherage added she had received an email that referenced memberships and punch
cards. Hendricks responded they will be talking about that tomorrow at the Golf Advisory
Committee meeting. One thing Dr. Williams brought up was having a prepaid punch card for
rounds vs. gift cards. Young Adults are interested in possibly having a monthly fee for ages
24-30. looking at it pessimistically that would mean they would buy their pass in the spring
and cancel it in the fall, using it. only when the weather was good. Hendricks put together a
proposal ofa cost of $480-$490 for a year round pass. They would then pay the $5-$6 when
they go to play, just like. the other passes do.
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman)
Claycomb stated the Golf Advisory Committee ·meeting is tomorrow.
Hillman stated at the last meeting they talked about golf carts and that they are doing really
well.
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Hillman stated one issue is bridge concerns. That will be covered tomorrow, We had an
engineer look at the bridge at LW Clapp, and there are alternatives. We have had a history of
damaged carts at LW Clapp. Over the last two years, 24 of the E-Z-Go carts were damaged
and so far seven of the new Yamaha carts'have been damaged from hitting bridge abutments.
We have had an engineer come out and look at some design. Hillman.will be presenting those
ideas to the Golf Advisory Committee tomorrow. They are suggesting starting with only·one
bridge. Houtman stated it would be appreciated to share those with him and staff prior to
making the presentations. Staff should be involved when dealing with operations and
infrastructure. Claycomb asked if staff was involved in this. Hillman responded he has talked
with the Pro at LW Clapp and talked about different ideas and designs out there. They are
familiar with it. Houtman stated he did not know about it. Please inform him first. One thing
that has previously been discussed is staff time is very valuable and they have projects to do.
They take directio.n from the Director and it is important that he knows about it and let them
know to manage their time and work with the situation correctly, Hillman responded it is just
an advisory suggestion.
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated we had a fantastic July 4 event. There were close to 10,000 in attendance.
Next year it will be bigger and better. They are also working on other projects. There were
several camp scholarships awarded. This group is expanding their exposure and fund raising
activities and starting to gain recognition in the community.
8 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated there is more infrastructure being put in place. We are looking-closely at the
design of another shelter. We added a volleyball partner. We set up an MOU and they are
running a volleyball league. We will be looking at trying to draw more revenue into Park and
Recreation sites. One idea we are going to investigate more is looking at serving alcohol (CMB
sales). There have been no decisions made.yet. Looking at pros and cons, Law is looking at it
as w·e11.
9 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated we are starting to work with the DABs. We have some scheduled meetings
for design of the swimming pociis and splash pads. We are looking for community input on
the design aspects. Would like to get the RFQ for a designer out in October/November so
next year we can focus on final designs.
Claycomb stated there is an organization that is pushing on McAdams. Houtman added they
are speaking at Council tomorrow. One suggestion they are bringing to.the table is·an
organization called Swim USA that handles operations, which includes swim lessons and day-
to-day open swim. No one has approached us. We did approach the YMCA and asked if they
wanted to do that. After looking at the numbers they said no. Maybe this private entity has a
model that we don't know about.
10 President's Update (Cindy Claycomb)
Claycomb stated she and Houtman discussed the potential for some board development. A
non-profit chamber service offers a Board University series. It is eight (8) sessions over a
year's time. Park Department could look at funding if there is interest. Claycomb will.send an
email with the sessions to board members to determine interest. Ramsey has taken some
before. Claycomb inquired if they were useful. Ramsey responded yes, but after you have
been on a few boards he is not sure how useful they would be. They would be good for
someone who has never served. Claycomb added you do not have to attend all eight but
there may be a couple that would be good.
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11 Director's Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated the department is working on several things. At the airport there are several
plaques on the wall, dating back to when the Park Board was first established. A lot of people
don't realize the Park Board used to run the airport. There are three plaques there about
items through the airport there were upgrades and the Park Board supervised those
renovations. Thatwas when the airport was not part of municipal services and prior to the
Park Board being part of the city of Wichita. There is lots of history with the Park Board from
layout of the city, streets being designed by landscape architects from the Park Board, to a lot
of our parks. The Park Board is unique in that you are appointed by Council and have serious
responsibility in legal ownership of several park areas. There is some legal ambiguity about
responsibility arid authority and what is the right process when we have to go to Council to
approve funding. The Park Board may have made a policy or planning decision on park land,
but if it has an impact on the budget it has to go to the City as well. We are investigating the
pros and cons of if there is a need or an interest or want to dissemble the Board of Park
Commissioners as it is today and transferring those legal responsibilities to _the Council. This
would then render the Board of Park Commissioners more of an advisory capacity like other
boards. We don't know what the best scenario is. Some of the challenges being dealt with
include the Board of Park Commissioners having a long history of strong protection of and
interest in park land. Losing that would be a big concern. Times change and we are always
looking for efficiencies and the best scenario that will work for us. We will seewhat works
best for you as well. Items that are difficultto deal with like the Confederate Flag and Pawnee
Prairie Park. The question is.should that authority be rendered at this table or at the dais
downstairs. Legally it can happen, it is just a matter of us following through with the right
steps. We would need full support one way or the other from both Council and Board of Park
Commissioners. Right now we are just putting together a pros and cons list, Claycomb
inquired about, as an example, the Confederate flag decision, was that because Board of Park
Commissioners owned that property. Houtman responded the Board of Park Commissioners
does not own that property. There is a lot of inconsistencies.and ambiguity about what is the
authority and who should _make the decisions on planning issues, selling property and
operational issues that represents rriany stakeholders and concerns and thoughts from the
public. Claycomb stated there is an ordinance that stateswhat the duties of the Board of Park
Commissioners are. As we look at this, we would want to clean that up and layout
responsibilities. Houtman responded if there is a strong desire to disband the Board of Park
Commissioners as it stands now, we can do that. It Would just take a vote from the Board of
Park Commissioners saying we are going to transfer a 11this over to Council and continue our
role, but our role will be in an.advisory capacity. There are interesting situations that can
occur where the Board of Park Commissioners decides one thing and then when we go ask f or
funding the Council can ask for something totally different. Although you are appointed by
your council members, it is has been inconsistent and difficult for some to follow through on
who has authority and are we using this board to its fullest extent? Have we overburdened
the board? You are all volunteers and took a lot of time and effort and "arrows" during the
Pawnee Prairie Park conversations. The same thing happened when we discussed the
Confederate flag. In either case, if it stays as it is, we need to clean it up and react clarify and
add strong policies on responsibilities and who_ has authority.
Deatherage stated one issue she sees is part of our meetings we take the time to listen to the
community and feedback. How many voices would be heard if all of it went to the City
Council and how much longer and busier would that make those meetings. Houtman
responded you would. still have that expectation as an advisory board. You would not only
advise the Park & Recreation department, you would still represent the public. Deatherage
stated they would then most likely go straight to the decision makers. Houtman responded
Council should still rely on the board, they do this for other boards. That won't change, it
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would just be a matter of who has final authority. Right now on two-thirds of the parks, the
Park Board does not have authority. Claycomb added whichever way we go, the policy needs
to be cleaned up. It does get confusing.
Houtman stated there was a pre-proposal meeting today on Stryker, to turn that natural grass
into artificial turf.
Deatherage inquired if Houtman is familiar with Nitro Joe's Coffee. Houtman responded no.
Deatherage added the guy who started it came to her about a week ago asking about selling
coffee at the building in Hyde Park. He has someone in YPW who wants to partner with him
and sell coffee at the local building there on weekends. They don't brew anything on site,
they have an ice cream cart type cart that could be wheeled in. What steps would he need to
take to look into that? Houtman respond we have vendor permits. We charge a certain
percentage or it might be a flat rate that would be negotiated. He should come talk with
David McGuire.
Hillman stated at Linwood park we used to have events. They had a venue and theater
setting. It is really dilapidated now. Are there any plans on doing something with that?
Houtman responded there are no plans and no funding. If someone has resources and
interest, we would willing to work with them, similar to the dog park at Harrison Park with
Together Wichita. They are raising the funds to get it done.
Vo inquired about Harrison Park and earlier hearing there is a plan for a basketball court,
which is great. The tennis courts are complaining about the dilapidated condition. Is there a
plan to resurface that? Houtman responded that is part of renovation we are looking at.
Hopefully in next 4-6 months and it could also possibly include adding a futsal court as well.
We did this at Fairmount Park and it was very successful.
Vo also inquired about any plans for new parks on the east side in the Kellogg and Greenwich
area? Houtman responded unfortunately not at this time. We are working through the
Community Investment Plan. They have set some goals and priorities. The first goal is to
repair, replace and upgrade the existing. If we work with developers and they include and
incorporate new parks in their new development that would be great. As for purchasing and
developing new property it is low priority. Our highest priority is to repair and upgrade our
existing parks.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at approximately 4:10 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on Monday, August 14, 2017.
Cindy Claycon(,Presint
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Agenda
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Agenda
Monday, July 10, 2017
3:00 – 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
City Hall
th
11 Floor Park & Recreation Conference Room
Wichita, Kansas 67202
Item Description
Call to Order
Cindy Claycomb, President
Announcements
Public Comments
1 Approve Minutes
A. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the June 12, 2017,
Board of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting.
2 New Items for Consideration
A.
3 Continuation of Prior Business
A. Naftzger Property Sale – Mark Elder
4 Recreation Update (Greg Olmer)
5 Golf Update (Troy Hendricks)
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman)
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
8 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
9 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
10 President’s Update (Cindy Claycomb)
11 Director’s Update (Troy Houtman)
Adjourn