Board of Park Commissioners
Regular MeetingWichita, KS · January 8, 2018
Minutes
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Minutes
Monday, January 8, 2017
3:00- 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
C I T Y D O F
City Hall, 11th Floor
WICHITA Park & Recreation Conference Room
Wichita, Kansas 67202
Members Present: Cindy Claycomb, Tori Deatherage, Troy Palmer, Bill Ramsey, Hoyt Hillman, Lawanda
Deshazer
City Staff: Troy Houtman (Director, Park & Recreation), Penny Garding (Clerk), Stacey Hamm, Troy
Hendricks, Elizabeth Ha.rlenske (Assistant City Attorney), Angela Buckner, John Philbrick
Absent: Eddie Fahnestock
Item Descri�tion
Call.to Order
Cindy Claycomb, President, called the meeting to order at approximately 3:03 p.m.
Public Comments
There were no Public Comments.
1 Approve Minutes
Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the December 11, 2017,
Board of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting.
Motion by Palmer, second by Ramsey, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to approve, sign and
file the minutes of the December 11, 2017 Board of Park Commissioners Regular
Meeting (6-0).
2A Sale of Park Land
Houtman stated he shared information with the board members prior to the
meeting. In the middle of December we received information regarding a sale of
propertythat is adjacent to College Hill Park. When doing a survey they found that
part of the property is encroaching onto the park. They can't sell the property until
we resolve the encroachment. It is goes 8-10 feet into the park and is the length of
the property. There is also infrastructure in the area, the pool, fence and part ofthe
driveway. Today it looks like it is supposed to be this way. We were approached to
see ifwe would be willing to sell that lot or the portion of the property. We did our
research and determined everything showing is accurate. It is staff's
recommendation that.we move forward with that. We.only recommended the sale
of the portion that is encroaching, not the entire lot. The rest of the lot would
remain park property. The purchasers of the property are here to answer question or
provide. any clarification. The property is about 1,300-1,400 sq. ft. It is not enough to
have an impact on maintenance. We are not in the habit or selling property; but in
this case, it is not going to have an impact on our operations.
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Steven Suellentrop, 13601 W Hardtner. He is the interested party and has been
under contract for about three months. As part.of the contract, because it is a
unique property, a survey was completed. This will be their primary residence and
they have some long term plans. Lot 8, as it is now, is 25 feetwide and about 8-9
feet is currently where the improvements are that have been there for quite some
time. The house was built in 1921.and Lot 8 was deeded to the. City of Wichita six or
seven years after that. Our preference would be to not only to purchase the portion
with improvements, but also be. open to discussion to purchase the entire lot. They
have had surveyors measure and draw out along the sidewalk. They are not
intending to encroach upon the park land. They see the park as an asset to the
community and themselves as potential buyers. They are asking for consideration to
be allowed to purchase more property than just the 8-9 foot strip that is encroaching,
Whether that be all of Lot 8 at25 feet wide, which still leaves about 2"3 feet between
the existing sidewalk and what they would maintain. The purpose of this would be to
have the ability to maintain the area that has not been maintained. This would not
c
impat access to the park.
Claycomb inquired of Mr. Suellentrop, confirming they are referring to the whole
strip of land, not just the yellow highlighted on the handout. Suellentrop responded
the yellow highlighted part goes right to the edge of the driveway. When measuring
25 foot between Lots 8 and 9 it goes to about three foot east of the sidewalk.
Claycomb asked Houtman about staff recommendations to go to the edge of the
sidewalk and then straight back. She then inquired about the pool that is.at the back
that is partially in the encroachment as well. Suellentrop responded the driveway,
which includes the air conditioner unit sitting on the driveway, a pergola and some of
the fence are encroaching in Lot 8.
Houtman stated the.reason his staff recommends selling just the portion of the area
that is encroached and retainingthe rest of the property is we don't want to set a
precedent of selling property just to let someone else maintain it. We could come up
to an understanding regarding maintenance of that property so that it meets both of
our needs. This Board is making a recommendation, because the property is not
Board of Park Commissioners owned; the City owns the property. When we get past
this and have a good understanding of what the purchase is going to be, we will then
turn it over to Real Estate and take it to City Council for their approval.
Claycomb added we.have had things like this come to us in the past. We usually look
at it and don't generally add property to it. We.have held on to as much park
property as we can because of precedent setting. Palmer expressed an
understanding that historically _you would not, but in this instance with the sidewalk
where it is, there is a definite separation and feel we should consider selling the lot.
Ramsey inquired what the zoning on Lot 8·is. Philbrick responded it is single-family.
Ramsey then inquired about the type of easement that needs to be.maintained on it.
If we were to sell them the entire portion up to the sidewalk, what is the easement?
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Philbrick responded there would not be an easement, they would own Lot 8 and we
would own Lot 10 and beyond.
Claycomb made a motion to take staff recommendation and sell the part of Lot 8 that
has the yellow highlighted encroachment reflected on the attachment. Hillman
seconded the motion.
Ramsey clarified the motion is for just the highlighted section. Claycomb confirmed
yes.
Houtman added the proceeds from sale would go back to the park and should be
included in the motion. Additionally, whatever property is decided, we will charge
fair marketvalue, which is currently $4-8 per square foot. Claycomb stated she will
add that to the current motion. Hillman inquired who will be doing the trimming and
maintaining of the tree in the picture if we keep the motion as is. Houtman
responded we will be doing some maintenance but will also have expectations and
conversations with the new homeowner regarding the maintenance. Claycomb
asked Hillman ifhe was okay with adding to the motion that the proceeds from this
sale go to the Park Department. Hillman inquired if that would be the Park
Department or the Parks Foundation. Houtman responded itwould be going back to
the park. Claycomb clarified it would be going back to College Hill Park. Hillman
responded then, yes, he is okay with that addition to the motion. Houtman added if
we sell a portion of any park it goes back to that park.
Claycomb add to the motion that the proceeds go back to the park.
Hendricks stated we do have the ability to do a memo of understanding to work with
the homeowner on maintaining the property outside of theirs but to standards that
we set.
Palmer made a substitute motion to seH all of Lot 8 to the new homeowner with the
proceeds going to the park. Deatherage seconded the. motion.
Hillman inquired if the.new homeowner would be willing and able to pay for the
additional expense. Ramsey responded they have already stated that was their
desire to get the entire lot. Hillman responded that was at the rate of $4-8. Philbrick
stated that would be about $13,000. Claycomb added thatwould be negotiated
through Real Estate. Deatherage inquired if City Coundl approves the whole lot are
they committed to buying the whole lot, or do they have the option to buy only the
portion encroaching. Houtman responded we are going to take one or the other to
Council.
Philbrick stated what will happen is once you have a recommendation we will
negotiate with the property owners and we will have a contract before going to
Council. He would propose, ifthe Park Board is amenable, to sell whole lot and if
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they chose to only buy a part of the lot, that would be acceptable. Ramsey stated he
understands the reasons for not wanting to set a precedent, is that small bit of land
of any advantage to the park. Houtman responded not really. They have been
encroaching on the park for long time. We are not asking for anything back of value
from all that period of time. We want to work with them and give them the amount
of property that is going to make sure they are not encroaching on the property any
more. When we start letting people purchase more, that sets a precedent for the
neighbors and others around that want to do landscaping beyond property lines, I'm
sure we can buy some park property, they did it at this location. Harlenske stated to
remember youjust passed the encroachment ordinance, which is relatively new.
Claycomb added when the encroachment ordinance passed .staff told us it would not
be fixed the.next day. Houtman added as we are finding encroachments we are
advising the homeowners they need to remove their property. Joey Lorie, JP
Weigand, the seller's representative added when the current owner purchased the
property the driveway, fence and swimming pool were already in place and she
believed them to be part of the property. Houtman stated it is going to be a win-win
situation in either case. If we just sell the portion that is encroached upon, we will
still work with the new purchaser on the maintenance and operations of it. We will
be good neighbors, butwe don't want to set a precedent where we sell more
property than what is needed to rectify the situation.
Deatherage inquired as to who has been caring for the shrubbery up to this point.
Suellentrop responded it has not been maintained for a number of years. When he
researched it,.Park Forestry advised them it was believed to be private property. The
homeowner indicated it was park property. Deatherage then added now that
everyone knows it is park property is it back on the schedule to be.cared for.
Houtman responded once.this is decided; it wiUbe. If we sell the whole lot we are
not going to maintain it. Once the sale is complete we will work with the new
homeowner and determine whatwill work best for all parties.
Claycomb stated there is a motion and second and also a .substitute motion and
second. Harlenske stated you should call for a vote on whether thesubstitute
motion replaces the original motion. Claycomb called for a vote on substituting the
substitute motion for the original motion. The substitute motion is to sell the entire
lot to the homeowner and the proceeds go back to College Hill Park (2-4). The
substitute motion.did not pass, with a vote of 2-4. The original motion is now back to
the board. Claycomb called for a vote on the original motion, The original motion is
to sell only the highlighted portion on the handout to the homeowner with the
proceeds going back to College Hill Park. Harlenske added for clarity that is what
would be recommended to. City Council. (4-0-2 abstain) Motion passes.
Motion by Claycomb, second by Hillman, IT WAS VOTED AND APPROVED to sell
only the property, highlighted on the handout, to the new homeowner with the
proceeds going back to College.Hill Park. Harlenske added, for clarity, this.is what
would be recommended to City.Council. Motion passes 4-0 with 2 abstentions.
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2B Election of Officers
Claycomb confirmed with Harlenske that an election could be held based on current
bylaws. Harlenske stated the bylaws state the election shall be when a full board has
been appointed.
Claycomb stated we have a full board appointed and lll(ould entertain nominations.
Hillman responded the. nominating committee met and were on hold because we did
not have a status of when elections would take place. The nominating committee
has no slate selected. Claycomb responded today we could still entertain motions for
President, First Vice President and Second Vice President.
Ramsey nominated Palmer for President.
Deatherage nominated Ramsey for 1st Vice President,
Palmer nominated Ramsey for President.
Claycomb called for a written ballot based on requirements of the bylaws.
Garding tabulated the votes and. stated Palmer wins written vote for President (4-2).
Motion by Hillman, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to accept Ramsey as 1" Vice President
(6-0).
Motion by Claycomb, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to accept Deatherage as 2nd Vice
President (6-0).
3A Naftzger Park - Troy Houtman
Houtman stated things are moving forward between the City and the Developer.
There are a couple items to go to Council. When those are done, we will start talking
again with the designer and design team to go back and finish what was started.
Hopefully it will be only a month or so before we can start talking about a timeline.
Claycomb stated the Community Improvement District will be voted on tomorrow at
Council. Is that what we are waiting on? Houtman responded yes. Then there is one
more vote for the development plan. Claycomb added then SWAwill come back as
the designteam.
4 Recreation Update (Stacey Hamm)
Hamm shared December Highlights
• Kids Konnection is a holiday break day care for school children. These
numbers represent all three centers: 570 kids attended and we received
$11,020 in.revenue.
• Night with Santa, Thursday, December 7 at Century II had over 2,500 attend.
There were no long lines so it was easy for families to participate in the
activities. Thetree give-away was a big hit. Hillman inquired about the
schedule for next year, will the Mayor plan an Old Town tree again? Hamm
responded the Mayor will decide that in November, but most likely they will
remain separate. Hamm will reach out to the Mayor's Office to get a decision
earlier.
5 Golf Update (Troy Hendricks)
Hendricks stated the numbers are not final yet. Month-end and year-end will dose
next week. Rounds shown are correct. Auburn Hills was up 3% for the year; Tex
Consolver was even; LW Clapp was down 8%, MacDonald is down 11% and Sim was
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down 4%. Revenue and expenditure numbers are tentative. Those are the numbers
pulled right after the first of the year. There are still things to be posted. Rounds are
down 4% for yearsto-date. December was a good month, we had 4,200 rounds
compared to 2,800 the year before. Revenue was about the. same, which is normal
with season pass play.
Claycomb inquired if rounds are up so much why revenue isn't up as much.
Hendricks responded regular greens fee at Auburn Hills is $25 on a week day, if you
have a season pass player playing, he is paying $6. There are more season pass
players in winter because they have the pass and it doesn't cost as much. Houtman
added another interesting statistic we keep is the reyenue per round which does not
match the prices we charge because of the discounts. Hendricks clarified on the
report where it says 2016 it is actually 2017 numbers. Claycomb inquired why total
revenue is down if revenue per round is up. Hendricks responded everything is
tentative until the final closing of the month. The numbers also include the debt
service payment being withheld. Houtman added that could change tomorrow. Golf
finished in the red at the end of the year, because we have already given our debt
service back to the City. Tomorrow that will probably be reversed so that Golf has
cash to rnake payroll and payments .. It is jus.t an accounting process.
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman/Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated that at the request of this board numbers were provided in
December regarding revenue and expenditures per course and the history behind
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each course. As staf has been looking at this, there are red flags. At the Golf
Advisory Committee meeting there were different ideas shared to create more
revenues. Staff is being creative with marketing. Then there was discussion
regarding the current status of each course. The way the golf system is going right
now, we are not going to be sustainable. Past history shows previously we had only
four courses with roughly 200,000 rounds. When we added a fifth course we have
less rounds now; down to 160,000 rounds. It is obvious we have more holes·than
what we need. There are many other parameters including where the courses are
located, what neighborhoods are involved, history and many other things to be
aware of before decisions are made. We all agreed something different needs to be
done. There needs to be drastic change. We have cut all expenses as closely as we
can. We are marketing and pushing. We have seen some improvements but they are
not substantial enough to make a huge impact. Gaining 100 golfers is not enough to
stem the tide. We still want to bring in younger and different types of golfers. We
are too big for the lack of demand,. something has to.change.
Hillman stated that was a,good summarization. Palmer added it was unfortunate not
all ofthe committee was present, there were some big voices absent. Claycomb
inquired how many were there. Hillman responded three. Palmer would have liked
to have heard the .conversation with everyone present. Houtman stated
Councilmember Clendenin was in attendance as an observer and.shared some
information and thoughts. One thing that was talked about was is there a need to
bring a consultant on board to help evaluate. We don't know what that cost would
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be, but staff has looked at it closely and has a good grasp on it. Without voting it
seemed obvious, even from the observers that we didn't want to spend the extra
dollars on the consultant. We have a good understanding of what needs to be done,
it is just a matter of having quality discussions and having a plan in place. There was
also.discussion about ifthis comes to having to close one of the courses, how do we
manage that loss. Staff is starting to research other places and how do we prioritize
which course gets closed and what do we put in its place. Regardless of which
neighborhood, there will be an outcry. How do you manage the sense of loss?
Ramsey inquired what was Councilmember Clendenin's thoughts during the meeting.
Houtman responded he understands the situation and that LW Clapp is the most
vulnerable to being closed. We also started looking at what can we put in its place?
Other cities have put in new playground systems or new walking trail systems. Now
you are putting in something that everyone can enjoy. There are more opportunities
for people to use the property. These are just ideas. Part of it could be developed,
with a partnership, with retail or commercial property or residential property. There
are several places that turned golf courses into residential/parks and upgraded the
parks and homes there. There are lots of options. No one,has made any decisions
about what we are. going to do. Hillman .added there was also talk about involving
the neighborhood. Claycomb asked if LW Clapp is owned by the City of Wichita or by
the,Board of Park Commissioners. Houtman respond it is the Board of Park
Commissioners. Palmer added having CouncilmemberClendenin understand and see
the numberswas a big thin·g. Houtman added another thingwe talked about was if
we keep all five golf courses operating, somehow it needs to be subsidized. Who is
going to make that happen? Right now there is not an appetite to do that. When we
got the new golf carts $250,000 of that came from the Forestry Fund. That then.has
an impact on Forestry service. Claycomb stated is was said we have too many public
golf holes for the community, is that still true during peak times .. Hendricks
responded yes. Claycomb added for example on Saturday morning is everything
totally full every Saturday morning. Hendricks responded in season, from when we
open at 6:00 am until 10:00-10:30 am, yes. Palmer added even at LW Clapp?
Hendricks responded LW Clapp isn't. Houtman added when we do maximize our
peak times, it give us more flexibility as well as leverage _to discount to get people to
the other times that are not full. When we aren't full, we don't have that. Making
some of these changes will have an impact on the operational budget. It will be up to
the City Manager and Budget Department to figure out. Deatherage stated it would
be interesting to see a comparison of the numbers from how it is now compared to
how it is as a park. Houtman added a couple ideas include contracting some of these
services. We might have.a contractor that does the foot golf and disc golf and we
give them a great rate to operate out there. We just need to be creative. Whatever
we decide to move forward with we are going to have to figure out what to do with
the old golf shop. It could be an asset or it could be removed.
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated they are still working on Plates for Parks. It should go to the State in
a month or so. We will not get any revenue until 2019,
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They are also working on.some new board members, some additional fundraising
ideas, and Fourth.of July.
8 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated the Polar Express event was very successful. We are putting in an
irrigation system that will use reclaimed water from the other side of the river. We
are trying to get that done in the next:couple months. In 2019 we will be looking at a
new rental space. It would have garage doors that can open, .and will be climate
controlled on the inside. It will be located on the south side of the park.
Hillman inquired about the amount of water coming from the treatment plant.
Houtman responded we are not getting all of it. Claycomb added you are taking only
what you need.
9 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated he met with Councilmember Johnson. He will be going to the
District Advisory Board in February. We are hoping to gain some input on where
District I the swimming pool is going. The ideas include the current location at
McAdams or the current location at Edgemoor. A new idea could be at the Boys &
Girls Club and they operate it. There are some challenges there but it is definitely a
good possibility. The rest of the sites have all been put in place. We have gone to
each of the DABs and talked about design. We are going out next week to get an RFP
for a designer.
10 President's Update (Cindy Claycomb)
Claycomb inquired about the Recreation Superintendent search. Houtman
responded it closes at end of day on Monday. We have received 70+ applications.
About 20 of those meet the standards. There are five or six that have caught his
attention. We will start setting up interviews for the beginning of February. There
will be a panel for the first screening. It will consist of the Derby Director and the
Hutchinson Director and Houtman. This panel will take it down to three odour
candidates. Then we will have two or three panels and have some Park Board
members on those panels.
Hillman inquired about KRPA and asked for the agenda so the board can see if there
are any sessions they want to attend. Garding will send the link to the agenda to all
board members.
Claycomb welcomed. Lawanda DeShazer to the Board. Deshazer has already been
through the orientation.
11 Director's Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman welcomed DeShaze.r and thanked her for joining board.
Houtman thanked Claycomb for her service..
Deshazer inquired about sharing and talking about information received in these
meetings. Claycomb responded they are public meetings and people are welcome to
attend.
Buckner thanked Claycomb for her service, on behalf of all the Recreation staff.
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Adjourn
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at approximately 4:25 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on Monday, February 12, 2018.
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Agenda
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Agenda
Monday, January 8, 2018
3:00 – 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
City Hall 11th Floor
Park & Recreation Conference Room
Wichita, Kansas 67202
Item Description
Call to Order
Cindy Claycomb, President
Announcements
Public Comments
1 Approve Minutes
A. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the December 11, 2017,
Board of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting.
2 New Items for Consideration
A. Sale of Park Land
B. Election of Officers
C.
3 Continuation of Prior Business
A. Naftzger Park – Troy Houtman
B.
4 Recreation Update (Stacey Hamm)
5 Golf Update (Troy Hendricks)
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman/Troy Houtman)
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
8 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
9 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
10 President’s Update (Cindy Claycomb)
11 Director’s Update (Troy Houtman)
Adjourn