Board of Park Commissioners
Regular MeetingWichita, KS · May 14, 2018
Minutes
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Minutes
Monday, May 14, 2018
3:00- 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
C IT Y OF
City Hall 11th Floor
WICHITA Park & Recreation Conference Room
Wichita, Kansas 67202
Members Present: Troy Palmer, Ty Tabing, Tori Deatherage, Hoyt Hillman
Members Absent: Bill Ramsey, Eddie Fahnestock
City Staff: Troy Houtman (Director, Park & Recreation), Penny Garding (Clerk), Elizabeth Harlenske
(Assistant City Attorney), Stacey Hamm, David McGuire, Regg.ie Davidson, Shana Appelhanz, Angela
Buckner
Guest: Alejo Cabral
Item Descrietion
call to Order
Troy Palmer, President, called the meeting to order at approximately 3:02 p.m.
Announcements
Therewere no Announcements.
Public Comments
Aaron Pero, 910 Park Glenn St., Clearwater. Pero stated Murdock Park, and
adjacent land is nice and well maintained, Also, owned by this board is the Oakland
Addition and the Murdock Avenue Addition. It does not look very good. The reason
is because it is located in a FEMA floodway. As a result all the houses currently within
it or have been in it have been destro.yed or severely damaged enough thatthey have
been condemned. Going back to 1978, many of the vacant lots have been sold to
various owners because they have interest in developingthem. Since the land is in a
floodway it is the same classification as the Big Ditch, when it rains it floods. He has
been in contact with the City because he had big dreams of buying the land and
developing it. The reason the taxes were so low was because it is worthless. After
receiving seven pages of code violations, he has picked up the land and made it look
good. However, he does not want to be the City's maid for the rest of his life. He has
talked with the flood plain manager and director and the City has no plans for that
area. They just want continue to use it as a tax revenue source. The lot adjacent to
his is in the·same situation. It has been sold three times since November. About
every three years the.City has repossessed it. After a few years it sells back to the
public, knowing full well that the land is worthless. He is coming before the board
because he wishes to sell this land to the Park Commission. If money is tight, he is
willing to donate it free or at the lowest minimum allowed so that the land can be in
proper hands. He has two neighbors and one other individual who have expressed
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interest in owningthe.land as well. He could get $500-$1,000 and continue the cycle
over and over. He wants it to stop and is willing to take a complete loss on his
project in order to stop this process. Hillman asked if a map was available. Pero
responded yes and shared a copy. Hillman inquired what the Public Works and
Stormwater departments say about the property. Are they willing to take it over and
maintain it? Pero responded they have said there is no money earmarked for it.
Back. in 1998 the City applied for, a demolition permit and offered more than
$132,000 in FEMA money to about 15 properties on the west side. This land, they
have just ignored. He has been told by the floodwater department there is no
money. Hillman stated he should continue to pursue that process with them. They
might find money.. He does not think Park is going to wanno take over a flood plain.
Houtman stated he is not a board commissioner,there are lots.of properties the City
owns all over the City that are maintained at a very low level because-we don't have
the fundingto maintain it. A lot of these properties are in the flood plain where you
can't build on it. Could you put a park on it? Yes. Could there be something that is a
special design that would still allow the flooding to go through? Yes. That takes a
special type of design, because theywant the water to continue to flow the way it is
supposed to flow. We can talk to Stormwater and ask about this particular piece of
property. He would not want his department to take this on because we would be in
the same situation. We can't maintain it. There is nothing we have that gives us the
resources to build on it. Palmer added he would have a better opportunity to sell it
to his neighbor for more money. Pero responded for applicable reasons he does not
want five more people to take it over and then they get screwed. Palmer added if
they own the land around it, they know what the land is. Palmer stated on behalf of
the Park Department, we don't have any money to buy it. Houtman asked to make a
copy of the map.
1 Approve Minutes
A. Recommended Action:. Approve, sign and file minutes of the March 22, 2018,
Board of Park Commissioners Special Meeting.
Motion by Deatherage, second by Tabing, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to approve,
sign and file the minutes of the March 22, 2018 Board of Park Commissioners Special
Meeting (4-0).
B. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes ofthe March 23, 2018,
Board of Park Commissioners Retreat Meeting;
Motion by Tabing, second by Deatherage, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to approve,
sign and file the minutes of the March 23, 2018 Board of. Park Commissioners Retreat
Meeting (4-0).
C. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the April 9, 2018, Board
of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting.
Motion by Hillman, second by Tabing, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to approve, sign
and file the minutes of the April 9, 2018 Board of Park. Commissioners Regular
Meeting (4-0).
2 New Items for Consideration
Therewere no New Items.
3 Naftzger Park (Troy Houtman)
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Houtman stated we are closing the park on May 21. There is one question that he
will present atthe next meeting, regarding a utility easement that the developer
wants to share with the park. McGuir.e has some items he wants to start working on
including removing the benches. Palmer inquired if those were going to be used
somewhere else. Houtman responded yes. Deatherage inquired aboutthe impact
the construction will have on the neighbors. Houtman responded it is going to be big
because it is not just the park but also the buildingthatwill be next to it and the
Spaghetti Works building too. Deatherage asked about noise and hours of
construction. Houtman responded it will probably be during business hours. He
added St. Francis will stay open, it will be the parking lot just east of the park.
4 Recreation Update (Stacey Hamm)
Hamm stated the Spring classes are going well.
Orchard Park-Miracle League kicked off their.10th season.
- 8 teams
- 94.kids
- Saturday morning games
- Volunteer angels help kids on field
Great Plains Nature Center - EastHigh A.ces Community Day on April 12
- Four Classes
- Cleaned up the park
- Removed bush honeysuckle
Lawrence Dumont Stadium - Spring Cycle Spectacular Event on April 28
- Partnership with Genesis Health Clubs
- 3'" Year
- 120 participants due to rescheduling and other activities
- Next Get Fit event will be Yoga in the Park in July
Lynette Woodard -Adult Balloon Bouquet Workshop Sunday April 15
- 6 participants
- $13.00 per person
- Participants requested more one-day workshops during summer
5 Golf Update (Appelhanz)
Appelhanz stated April was the worst April in 11 years, with a total.of only 11,245
rounds. The biggest contributor to that was only one playable weekend.
YTD rounds are down 10% from 2017 with a revenue decrease of 12%, again because
of April.
There are positives though. Even though rounds and revenues declined in April we
are seeing a lot of improvement in programming compared to 2017.
Player Development
• Hook-A-Kid on Golf
- $75 per child -receives with new golf clubs after 5 days
- 76 participants
- Due to overwhelming demand will.double enrollment next Spring Breal
to .150 kids.
- Ages are 8 -16
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�age 3 of8
- Wichita Junior Golf Foundation has agreed to allow participants to
bypass the beginner program and start at the 3-hole program.
• Wichita Junior Golf Foundation
- 2nd year in assisting with online registration
� First day of online registration was April 16, 263 registered in on one
day.
- Auburn Hills filled up by 7 pm that Monday.
- Currently at 480 kids and the program does not·start for another two
weeks.
- Last year there were 415 total participants
• April SNAG Auburn Hills and MacDonald
- 6 participants
• April Goddard Schools SNAG
- Four Pros went to Amelia Earhart Elementary and taught PE for two days as
SNAG lessons
- 400+ participants in the two-day period
- Brought a lot of awareness to Wichita Junior Golf Program
• April Intro to Golf Tex Consolver -1 participant
Lessons
• April Drop in Clinic Sim - no participation
• April/ May Beginner Lessons Auburn Hills - 20 participants
• April/ May Beginner Lessons MacDonald - 9 participants
• May Beginner Lessons MacDonald - 6 participants
• May/ June Beginner Lessons Sim - 7 participants
• April Putting Clinic Clapp - 2 participants
• May Putting Clinic Clapp - 4 participants·
• May Scoring Clinic for Beginners Clapp - 1 participant
• April Beginners Lessons Ladies Clapp - 9 participants
• April/ May Beginners Lessons Ladies MacDonald - 7 participants
• March/ April Beginners Lessons Youth Sim - 0 participants
• April/ May Beginners Lessons Youth Auburn Hills- 21 participants
• May Beginners Lessons Youth Clapp- 2 participants
Lessons
• Shamrock Scramble -92 players
• Tex Turmoil - 116 players
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman/Troy Houtman)
Hillman stated the Golf Advisory Committee has been looking at expenses and has
come up with an idea they would like the board to consider. There has been a pretty
static number ofpasses sold. Our expenses are going up but our rounds are not
changing. We have been working from the same group all the time and not.bringing
in new people, until we started the kids programs. The numbers across the board are
not exciting. Appelhanz added it is important to point out we have s�en an increase
from.2010 to 2017 in the season passes, but the revenue has declinedbecause our
pass holders are aging out into the senior pass structure. Hillman stated we are
trying to reach out beyond the static group we have been dealing with, not only with
the kids but with other groups as well. We.are proposing an annual season pass
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where you get billed once a month for a ,reasonable rate. Kids would be at about
$6.50 for 17 and under. We have only sold 16 in the past. We hope to promote this
monthly rate, particularly with the young adults and adult passes. This is a bargain
when you look at the other courses in town. The passes do not include carts. It is
just show up and you are ready to go. The way it is now, you show up and you have
to pay a little extra and havethe.hassle at the counter. Once we establish this it is
going to be a bargain. This will excite our current base and will reach out into the
community and bring in more people. If this is set up and run properly .you could see
an extra $200,000 per year. Appelhanz is setting it up where it can be set up on a
credit card. Appelhanz stated the figures being used are based on 2017 sales. We
would see the $936,000 based on what has already been sold. The $216,000 is the
difference of going from an annual to a monthly pass. This is similar to what you
would see at Genesis or something likethat. Hillman added these·are being used as a
base for calculations and if marketed properly we can transfer most ofthem over to
season passes and expand some. We are asking the board to consider it.
Tabing inquired what is the season. Appelhanz responded it would be 365 days from
the date of purchase. _Palmer asked _what the restrictions are, do seniors still have
restrictions on dates of play. Appelhanz responded there would be no restrictions.
The seniors would still be paying more than what they would have with the season
pass that is in place now. An example is the Super Senior (70 and older) pays $100
for an annual pass and then a $14 green fee on top of the cart fee. With this
structure and them having to pay $65 a month, every month for 12 months, plus the
cart fee every time they play, we are going to see more rounds, but we will also see
the additional revenue. Appelhanz added we have talked about the potential of
having three different strategies for marketing campaigns. There needs to be an
overall campaign to the public, but we also need to target the 25-40 year olds that
we have been missing out on. That market has .limited disposable income but by
utilizing a pass structure like this it is more .feasible for them to get a season pass.
We need to address the.seniors because we are completely changing what they are
used to. Educating them on the benefits of getting to play more, it will work in their
favor. Palmer stated the risk is this year we could potentially see less revenue as
people try to figure out how it will work. Hillman responded we hope not, we are
marketing it. We just want your approval to go out and market it and try it.
Houtman asked if it would start at the beginning of the year in January. Appelhanz
responded it would most likely be the beginning of year because of the evaluation of
the golf system. We don't want to roll anything out before that is completed. Palmer
inquired when that is supposed to be done. Houtman responded soon. Hamm
inquired if they would have the option to pay the annual rate up fro ht instead of
being billed monthly. Appelhanz responded no, it will only be set up this way. The
ones that are in the annual plan right now, when their pass is up they would have to
convert to this. Hamm asked about the policy on cancelling halfway through the
year. Appelhanz responded they will have an agreement in place, similar to what we
do now, but it will be a buy0out policy. The figure that is being looked at is $300.
Palmer added it is like a gym membership. Appelhanz stated they are working with
Club Prophet Systems to figure out how to implement this. We know we cannot
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utilize the Webstore. We would like to use ACH, which is the check system so we
don't get hit on the credit card charges. Palmer inquired if they can charge more if
they want to use a credit card, like a convenience fee. Deatherage stated her gym
offers a monthly discount if you provide a voided check. Palmer added a
consideration that would be good would be a discount if you paid it all up front, then
you have the guaranteed money for 12 months. Appelhanz responded those are
good ideas. Palmer stated this is a great idea having a pass that is all. included, except
for a cart. Appelhanz stated we are reducing the number of passes they would have
as well. Deatherage asked Appeihanz to remind them of the·current rates.
Appelhanz responded all of the courses except for Auburn Hills it is $25 on weekdays
and $27 on weekends. At Auburn Hills it is $27 during the week and $32 on the
weekends. Carts are $12,50 for 18 holes and $7 .50 for 9 holes. Houtman stated a
senior going 31 times will break even. Tabing added it should reduce some of the
month to month volatility.
Hillman asked for a motion from the board to support the plan. Deatherage asked if
it was supporting the idea of the pass orthe specific numbers.. Hillman responded
no, it is supporting the season pass restructure.. It will still need to go to Finance and
City Council. Deatherage stated her biggest concern is the Young Adult, She would
like to see consideration in increasing that age from·3o. Appelhanz responded the
young adult is proposed to be 30- 61 years old. Right now it is 18-23. We could look
at altering the young adult so it goes from 18 - 61. Deatherage added she and her
friends in their lower 30's don't have time to golf 50 times in a year. Appelhanz
restated 18-30 would be $75/month and 31-61 would be $90/month. Palmer asked
Deatherage for clarification on. her question. Deatherage stated .20 somethings
paying $75/month is a lot outside of the summer months. Palmer asked if they
should lower the price. Deatherage responded yes and also raise the top age to 35.
Hamm stated agreement with Deatherage that rate is tough for those in their 20s. If
you could lower the rate.and maybe carry it on to another age group that can afford
that payment, it would help entice that age group to purchase the pass. Appelhanz
added if you focus on 18 holes this is true, but if you look at 9 holes or even look at
the fact you can go and play as many holes as you can in the time you have. This
would be a great opportunity to utilize the same thing. Hamm responded that age
group will mainly focus on the dollar amount, morethan how they can.utilize it.
Deatherage added the hardest part with that age group it the sale. If they can justify
it as a good deal, a lot of them will likely sign up and won't even use it that many
times. Palin er asked if they would even buy a pass. Deatherage responded if that is
the group you are wanting to go after, it is going to take alot of shaping and strategy.
Hillman added we are hoping to expand on the current 61 young adults. That would
only make $1,000 difference if we were to lower itto $60. Appelhanz stated we
pulled this information from courses around the area and what they are currently
charging. All of the ones we looked at, there is only one pricing structure per one
course. We ha.ve five courses and we have to factor that into the pricing structure.
Tabing asked if they were able to hear from these people directly. Hillman
responded they have had several meetings with golfers and groups. The feedback is
we think thi.s will work. Appelhanz stated our next step is to go out and get more
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customer feedback on the specific structure. We want to switch from an annual price
to a monthly price.
Motion by Deatherage, second by Hillman, IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED to support
moving from an annual pass to pass structure being billed monthly with the consideration
we will look more into the pricing and age brackets (4-0).
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated the Foundation has July 4th going. Another thing they are working
on, happening on June 29th , they will be doing a Dinner in the Park at Reflection
Square. They are asking $25 per ticket. There will be entertainment, a food .truck will
be providing a scrumptious meal, and the booze truck will be there. It will.be a.cash
bar. The Mayor will be speaking and also trying for one of the WSU coaches. They
are going to try doing this on a quarterly basis. The funds raised will go toward
scholarships. They are looking at capping it at 200 tickets. That should net about a
$1,500 profit going to the scholarships.
8 Pawnee Prairie Park Update (David McGuire)
McGuire stated they have been working more on Pawnee Prairie Park. The update
sheet shows completed tasks. They will be putting in two light poles with LED for
$18,000. They will have motion sensors so when someone enters the park the lights
will come on. The playground is being worked on. ABCreative got that bid. Houtman
added it takes a while to build so it won't be installed until September. McGuire
stated the bridges were inspected. The north bridge passes inspection. ltjust needs
a little bit of welding. The other bridge would not pass. We are looking at what
would be the best way to repair it. It could possibly be rebuilt-in-house. There is.a
low water crossing over by the west shelter. We are going to re-look at thano see if
it can be improved. We are getting closer on the design work on the trail system.
Blubaugh met with them on Thursday. We are trying to get this work done before
fall so we are pushing to get the design finished. We were trying to figure out how to
dothe connection west to east. Using the parking lot, they are looking at putting
bollards in and moving parking lot spaces over. We are getting closer to completing
the signage work.
Hillman inquired where the horse trailers will be parking. McGuire responded there
is a big parking lot with water on the other side.
9 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated as part of the Naftzger Park construction, we are moving the Gazebo
over to OJ Watson Park. We got final plans on the location and pad. That should be
happening in June. We are moving forward with other projects through the Master
Plan. Tabing inquired ifthe Gazebo will be in a prominent entry location, or where
will it be going. Houtman responded it will go on the west side of the park in grove o
trees, a great picturesque area.
Hillman asked about the. water pipe. McGuire responded it has been pressurized and
tested and is working.
Houtman stated this past Saturday morning we had an obstacle course. There were
about 350 kids. It was 1.25 miles of obstacles. Kids ranged in. age from 5 - 12.
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Saturday evening there was a Movie in the Park, with about 200 attending.
10 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman stated tomorrow he is presenting to Council the recommendation on the
designer/consultant. The idea is to get all of the plans done this year. Once we get
them on board it will take about six months to develop all the plans. The bid came in
close to what we expected. Water's Edge Aquatic Design, out of the Kansas City area,
was selected as the designer/consultant.
Palmer inquired about McAdams. Houtman responded he went to a couple meetings
with Councilmember Johnson who is coming up with his suggestion.
11 President's Update (Troy Palmer)
No update today.
12 Director's Update (Troy Houtman)
Houtman introduced Reggie Davidson, the new Recreation Superintendent.
Davidson stated he started on Monday, May 7. He is currently meeting with his
team, one-on-one, to see what we have going on and what we can do to grow and
enhance what we already offer. He is coming from Round Rock, Texas.
Tabing inquired about marketing of programs and what that looks like. Houtman
responded we have our quarterly guide. We have a mailing list that it goes to. It also
goes into grocery stores and is available on line. We send out email blasts to remind
them to look at it. We send it to the school district so they can share it with the kids.
We use a lot of social media to target individual activities on a weekly basis.
Deatherage added Stacey Hamm is in charge of marketing for the department, she
would be happy to answer any question. Buckner added we also use Google Ads,
Nextdoor and radio.
Adjourn
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at approximately 4:05 p.m.
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on Monday, June 11, 2018.
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Agenda
Board of Park Commissioners
Regular Meeting Agenda
Monday, May 14, 2018
3:00 – 5:00 P.M.
455 N Main
City Hall 11th Floor
Park & Recreation Conference Room
Wichita, Kansas 67202
Item Description
Call to Order
Troy Palmer, President
Announcements
Public Comments
1 Approve Minutes
A. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the March 22, 2018,
Board of Park Commissioners Special Meeting.
B. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the March 23, 2018,
Board of Park Commissioners Retreat Meeting.
C. Recommended Action: Approve, sign and file minutes of the April 9, 2018, Board
of Park Commissioners Regular Meeting.
2 New Items for Consideration
A.
3 Continuation of Prior Business
A. Naftzger Park Update
4 Recreation Update (Stacey Hamm)
5 Golf Update (Troy Hendricks)
6 Golf Advisory Committee Update (Hoyt Hillman/Troy Houtman)
7 Wichita Parks Foundation Update (Troy Houtman)
8 Pawnee Prairie Park Update (David McGuire)
9 OJ Watson Park Committee Update (Troy Houtman)
10 Aquatics Master Plan Update (Troy Houtman)
11 President’s Update (Troy Palmer)
12 Director’s Update (Troy Houtman)
Adjourn