Citizen's Review Board
Regular MeetingWichita, KS · February 28, 2019
Minutes
Wichita Citizen Review Board Minutes
February 28, 2019
4 p.m.
Advanced Learning Library
711 West 2nd St. N.
Conference Rooms B & C
Wichita, KS 67203
Present: Jay Fowler, Stephanie Luna, Shaun Rojas, Tonja Sowder, Robert Thompson, Sharon
Ailslieger, Odell Harris, Jr., Janet Miller, Deputy Chief Hatter, Captain Chet Pinkston, Chief
Ramsay, Jennifer Magaña.
1. Call to Order—Chairperson Fowler
The meeting was called to order at approximately 4:05 p.m.
2. Approval of October 4, 2018 Meeting Minutes
Sowder made a motion to approve the January 17 minutes. Second by Rojas. The motion
passed unanimously.
3. Public Agenda - 15 minutes is set aside for this portion of the meetings
No one signed up to be on the public agenda.
4. Staff Report Update
Fowler stated he reviewed the report and noted that there is a summary on the accompanying
report that marries back to the shorter report due to the limited number of characters available in
the shorter report. He asked the Board to review the report prior to the meetings and flag those
that they would like to review during the meeting.
Sowder suggested the Board send those they wish to review to Pinkston and copy Fowler so
they can appear on the future meeting agenda.
5. Staffing Study Update
Pinkston noted there are three phases of the study. Phase one includes hiring six (6) community
service officers (who are in training now); two (2) sergeants; one (1) crime analyst supervisor;
four (4) crime analysts; and 16 officers. This phase should be completed in 2019. Crime
analysts review crime patterns, statistics and can sometimes predict crimes and areas where
resources may be needed.
Fowler asked what training and education crime analysts have.
Chief responded they usually have a criminal analytics’ education. They follow patterns and help
to drive down into trends, numbers, and data.
Miller asked if they are using new software.
Chief responded they are using Lexis Nexis to help collate data.
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Fowler asked if the new officers will be targeted to specific areas.
Chief responded that three (3) will go to investigations and two (2) will go to domestic violence
immediately due to an increase in domestic violence cases. Three (3) will go to the training
bureau and six (6) officers will respond to 911 calls with the expectation for more community
policing.
Rojas noted he was in the Citizens Police Academy for his first class on Monday. He asked how
the department identifies and recruits police officers.
Chief responded that they encourage officers to constantly recruit. Last year the department
hired a Spanish speaker who worked at QuikTrip. He also noted that the top floor of training
center is the criminal justice program for WSU.
6. Legal Update Discussion – Jennifer Magaña
Fowler stated he added this agenda item because he wanted the Board to have an opportunity
to visit with Magaña on legal issues.
Magaña summarized the statute on immunity from excessive force and reviewed the law
regarding the statute. She stated it was to protect government officials from liability and
damages in the course of doing their jobs.
Fowler asked if there is a legal issue on what the Board can say if the facts are known publicly
about a case they are reviewing in the meetings.
Magaña stated there is a city ordinance that in general applies to all Board members that their
opinion is their own and not of the City of Wichita
7. Establish CRB Purpose and Goals – Fowler
Fowler stated that this was addressed in November 2018 and he thought it would be useful to
review again.
Sowder asked when the Board will be able to review the Joshua Price case.
Fowler responded that the discipline is over for Joshua Price, but there are two other officers
involved whose cases are not closed yet. He thought it made sense to wait until all cases are
completed.
Sowder stated she would like to see two to three cases per meeting. She would like to know
what the outcome was for those cases where mentoring and coaching were noted.
Chief noted that the Price case is at final discipline and could be reviewed next month possibly.
Fowler asked if it is possible to do scenario presentations and discuss the conduct and policies
and applications of the policies without getting into an individual case.
Magaña responded that if an officer could be reasonably identified, then the answer is no.
Ailslieger noted that “rude” is a common complaint and wondered if officers are being trained in
such a way that they are being perceived as rude by the public.
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Chief responded that the unfounded “rude” complaints find there are no policy violations. He
stated they are willing to review a case for the board to see what they are looking at. He also
noted that they have a tendency to deal with the 1% of the population over and over again.
When they deal with the rest of the population, they have to show compassion as it may be their
only dealing with the department.
Fowler suggested the Board should be reviewing cases that public is interested in which is why
he brought up the Price case.
Luna suggested to keep a record of the cases the Board reviews and the outcome.
Fowler noted that the minutes will tell the public what the Board decided upon reviewing a case.
Chief suggested highlighting those cases that had already been reviewed by the Board.
Miller asked the Board to review what they had done in the past year. She noted they had
revised the bylaws and made an ordinance change.
Fowler noted the Board had reviewed camera and drone policy and the tattoo policy.
Chief added that the Board had made three policy recommendations: 1) Tattoo Policy – the
department revised the policy internally based on recommendations and it was implemented. 2)
Off-Duty Employment – Board had suggested a tracking process and the department is looking
at systems to track hours, etc. and is in phase one. 3) Officer-Involved Shootings – Board
recommended releasing the names of officers. He noted that some people think it is ok to
harass and release personal information of officers and their family members’ names. Officers
have a difficult job and the current climate for officers is volatile. He has to advocate for the
officers’ protection and well-being as well as that of the community. He noted there are internal
discussions being had now. The public probably wants to know the history / discipline record /
longevity / gender of the officer. He noted maybe these factors could be released without
releasing the name of the officers and this could balance protecting the officers’ names and their
family.
Ailslieger responded she does not need to know the officer’s name, but thinks the information
would be good to release about the officer.
Miller suggested the subject be placed back on the next agenda so the public can be given
notice of the discussion.
Fowler noted the Price case, officer naming and the matrix can be on the next agenda.
8. Action to take Executive Session Discussion
Miller asked if there is a statement the Board can make after returning from Executive Session.
Magaña reminded the Board that no action can be taken in Executive Session.
Miller asked if the Board could ask that a case be reviewed in an open session.
Magaña responded yes.
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Magaña stated that if the Board recommends action, they can come out of Executive Session
and take a vote on action. Executive Session is to discuss a personnel issue or seek legal
advice. If policy review is recommended, the Board should request a vote.
Fowler noted the ordinance requires confidentiality of the Executive Session and is confusing.
He thinks the Board should be able to review a case and advise that a case is being reviewed
and “recommend no binding action for this case”. In this manner, the Board can provide the
community the information they want to hear.
Miller added she felt like there should be some closure on the Executive Sessions so the public
knows an outcome.
Magaña stated she can give guidelines before the Board goes into Executive Session and what
can happen after the Executive Session.
Fowler noted the Board has to be transparent and figure out a way to do that.
Magaña stated that is why there is an Open Meeting Act that states there can be no binding
action taken in Executive Session
9. Project Tracking List Discussion
Fowler noted that the Juvenile Arrest Policy is up for review in March.
Miller asked who keeps the official list.
Pinkston responded that he has it.
Miller asked if Fowler could send the project list when he sends out agenda item requests.
10. New Business – Fowler
Rojas asked about ride-alongs.
Pinkston noted he has the list and it has been given to Investigations. He will email the list to the
Board.
Pinkston showed the Board drone video footage of an arrest. A citizen called 911 because the
suspect was stealing property from his private property. The drone has infrared capabilities and
searches for the suspect because it is cold and the owner had handcuffed the suspect who got
away. The drone spots the suspect in a wooded area and the officers apprehend him. Due to
the low temperature and an injury sustained by the suspect as he fled, the drone could have
saved the suspect’s life.
Fowler noted that the next meeting will be March 28 at the library or another suitable location.
11. Adjourn
Harris made a motion to adjourn. Second by Miller. The motion passed unanimously and
the meeting adjourned at 5:21 p.m.
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Agenda
Wichita Citizen’s Review Board
Agenda
Thursday, February 28, 2019
4:00 P.M. – 6:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order — Chairperson Fowler
2. Approval of Minutes – Chairperson Fowler
3. Public Agenda — 15 minutes set aside for this portion of the meetings.
4. Staff Report Update – Captain Pinkston
A review of recent complaints and status updates of pending complaints and
investigations.
5. Staffing Study Update – Captain Pinkston
An update provided by Captain Pinkston regarding the Staffing Study conducted in
2016. This discussion will be additional information on top of what was given by Chief
Ramsay at last month’s meeting.
6. Discussion – Legal Update –Jennifer Magana
A general discussion regarding legal questions.
7. Discussion – Establish CRB Purpose and Goals – Chairperson Fowler
A review and discussion of the Citizen Review Board’s purpose and goals.
8. Discussion – What action should the Board take or what statement the Board should make after
an Executive Session
What should be done after Executive Session so the public knows the Board position.
9. Discussion – Project Tracking List
A review and discussion of the projects that remain on the tracking list. Set priorities.
10. New Business – Chairperson Fowler
11. Adjourn
Meeting Location:
Advanced Learning Library
711 West 2nd St N, Wichita, KS 67203
Conference Rooms B & C
316-261-8500