District 2 Advisory Board

Page |1 District II Advisory Board Minutes May 13, 2019 www.wichita.gov The District II Advisory Board meeting was held at 6:30 p.m. at the Rockwell Branch Library, 5939 E 9th St N, Wichita, KS 67208. ATTENDANCE Members Present Nancy Drebbs Tracee Adams Blake Bauer David Babich Chris Leddon Junetta Everett Daniel Householder Nick Howell Francine Guyette Sam Lindeman Bill Skager Dee Nighswonger Linda Lenstable Nazir Jesri Steve Rodison Joe Goetz Ellen Querm Alicia Sanchez Marcia Ayres Keith Lane Marlon Ducedor Junetta Everett Steve Miller Council Member Becky Tuttle Stuart Terrill Karen Terrill Members Absent Larry Frutiger Mike Heldstab Nona Stevens Sue Sjogren Staff Present John Sjogren Captain Randy Scott, Wichita Fire Department Cheryl Brenneman Alan Taber, Park and Rec Teresa Burks Savannah Ball, Wichita Public Library Robert Ciski Philip Zevenbergen, MAPD Bill Laegly Cory Buchta, Community Services Representative Michael Togs Kim Neufeld Guests Marjorie Ward Cheryl Taskinee Debbie Scammell Cindy Kaykendall Mary Cole Maria Acosta ORDER OF BUSINESS Call to Order: The meeting was called to order by Becky Tuttle Approval of May 13, 2019 Agenda: Motion PASSED 10-0-0 Approval of Minutes from April 08, 2019: Motion PASSED 10-0-0 PUBLIC AGENDA This portion of the agenda provides an opportunity for citizens to present issues that are not part of the regular agenda for the meeting. There is a five minute time limit for each speaker. 1. Scheduled Items 1  Page |2 Kim Neufeld – Tobacco Free Wichita – We have been working with City staff and residents for two and a half years for tobacco free parks ordinance. 33 cities have them. Prohibit tobacco products and e- cigs from all city owned parks and trails. DOES NOT include golf courses. For cleaner parks. Wellness. Reduce exposure to tobacco products. To protect youth and to encourage new social norms. Police would enforce same as alcohol ordinance. Minnesota enforces it. Chief Ramsay was there and said there were no problems. WFD, WPD, and Park and Rec are supportive. Mayor Youth Council does tobacco litter cleanups at parks. Tobacco #1 most littered material. Toxic litter. Chemicals seep into sand and play area. Harmful to kids and animals. Q (DAB): Question about Mayors Youth Council – what age? A: High school. Q (DAB): They’re the ones putting the flags out and cleaning? A: Yes they are. Q (DAB): Are kids approaching these people? A: No not the kids. But we haven’t seen anyone smoking in parks when we go. We go pretty early Saturday morning to clean and there aren’t many people there then. 2. Off-agenda Items Nona Stevens – 145 North 127th Street East – I’m at the corner of Douglas and 127th Street. I have 15 acres – I’ve lived there for 50 years. Used to be in the county. They mowed the strip of land next to the road all the time. Now, on south side of Douglas is County – north is City. The County mows that area between the road and the fence. We have no sidewalks. County does a great job mowing. City side doesn’t get mowed. Looks awful. Put in sewer system on the east side. Part of it sticks up. No sidewalk and it doesn’t get mowed. It is City property. I mow my yard clear to the road. When I call the street department they don’t know and can’t help. They go by whatever they’re told to do. There’s a community that has been built across the street. People who will rent those places aren’t going to like the tall grass. I’m asking for some help. C (CM Tuttle): I’m going to give you this piece of paper and have you write your name and phone number on it and give it to me or Cory and we will follow up with you tomorrow. Q (DAB): Do they acknowledge that as being in the city? Recommended Action: Receive and file BOARD AGENDA 3. Updates, Issues and Reports None STAFF REPORTS 4. Fire Department Report Captain Randy Scott reported:  Normal number of alarms, medical calls, and fires.  Some fires in 4-plexes. Two under investigation. Minor injuries.  Safety notes: o Change batteries in smoke detectors. o Close your door when you go to bed at night. Significantly increase your chance of survival in the event of a fire. o Practice with your children – let them hear smoke alarm and teach them where to go and how.  CM Tuttle commented on Fire Ops 101. 2  Page |3 5. Community Police Report  None 6. Park & Recreation Department Report Alan Taber, Park and Recreation, reported  Brought Activity Guides  This is busy time of the year. All summer camps and specialty camps.  All parks, activity centers, Watson park, Classes, Etc. 7. Wichita Public Library Report Savannah Ball, Branch Manager, reported:  Summer reading program with 3 age groups. Prizes for tracking your reading.  A ton of programs in all libraries. o Rockwell June 5 – Music thing o Mad Science presentation June 27 o June 18 egg drop lab Action Taken: Motion made by Dee Nighswonger to receive and file all Staff Reports. Seconded by Nazir Jesri. Motion PASSED 10-0-0. NEW BUSINESS 8. City Budget Simulator Rollout Cory Buchta, City Manager’s Office, reported on the new Budget Simulator tool. The City is requesting residents to take some time to complete the budget simulator online. It can be accessed at http://wichita.budgetsimulator.com/. It launched today, May 13 and will be open until June 15. There will be a Social Media Budget Town Hall on June 26. July 23 the City Manager will present the budget at a City Council meeting. August 6 will be a public hearing. August 13 City Council will adopt the budget. The simulator generates your City tax bill based on increasing or decreasing services by 5% or 10%. Total tax bill is for Debt Service Fund and General Fund, but General Fund services are listed. The simulator is easy to use on your computer or smartphone. You can take it at one of the branch libraries or a Neighborhood Resource Center. They do not ask for any personally identifiable information, just your zip code. You can choose to provide basic demographic information if you’d like. Results will be available after June 15.Data will be compiled to inform the Social Media Town Hall. Q (DAB): How will the results be used by the City? A: Don’t think of it like a vote for what goes into the City, but City Council will see the results. I know the themes from the data will be used for the Social Media Town Hall. Action Taken: Motion made by Tracee Adams to receive and file. Seconded by Nick Howell. Motion PASSED 10-0-0. 9. ZON2019-00013 Philip Zevengerben, Metropolitan Area Planning Department, presented an application on behalf of Steve Miller, Kuzens, LLC (applicants)/ Garver, LLC (agent). This application was filed to rezone a portion of the subject property from SF-5 Single-Family Residential (SF-5) to TF-3 Two-Family Residential (TF-3). Looking to go to Two-Family Residential for duplexes. Intention of having 27 lots – 54 dwelling units. Preliminary site plan NE corner retention pond for storm water. Continue street dedication to allow connection to east 2nd and another entrance into area. Current site has single family home. 3  Page |4 Community investments plan – that area is indicated for new residential – this would be good infill. Recent development increasing density out there. South and east recent duplex development. Already showing increased density in the area. Q (DAB): Drove by this weekend. Where will be main traffic flow into area? A: I believe Jackson Heights – Looking to have dedication into 2nd street. Q (DAB): Didn’t see a zoning sign out there. A - It may not be up yet – Only required 14 days before planning commission meeting. Property owners in the area get a letter. I will follow up tomorrow to make sure sign gets up. Q (DAB): I don’t have problem with development, but traffic flow. Unpaved roads and small streets. Can’t get to Kellogg on 127th. Think you have to bring it to the attention of traffic people some improvements need to be made. A: Yes, it will need it. C (DAB): There are tons of wild turkeys out there. Q (DAB): Not in platting, but concerned if emergency equipment can navigate in there. A: Through the platting process they will have to design with that in mind. They will also have to have two access points. They need to have one access point per 29 lots. Part of the review process. Q (Public) Teresa Burkes 11825 Street North: Talking about opening up my street so traffic can go by my house. That street is so narrow two cars cannot pass. The Hindu temple doesn’t keep their lot clean. Have to drive through the trees to get there. I will sell my house if you do this. Dropping property value by $50k. A: I will bring your comments to the planning commission meeting. I will look at access to west. C (CM Tuttle): Will you please do that? Q (DAB): Has the notice for planning committee gone to residents? A: They will be going out soon. C (DAB): I would suggest you tell your neighbors to go to that meeting. A: May 23rd. Q (Public) John Sjogren 335 North 127th East: Can you tell us who the developer is? A: Steve Miller, Kuzens, LLC and Garver, LLC. C (John): This is different than ours. We had problems with ours. People trespassing. No wall even though it was in an agreement. Developer told me there didn’t need to be a wall. They have not been given adequate notice. You missed the 14 days. These people may need a new timeline. Don’t cut them short. A: Those are legal notice requirements. I will follow up to make sure Q (Public) Sue Sjogren 335 North 127th East: We went through what this lady is going through. We were under the understanding if you had 60% of property owners affected you could block it. They wanted to change zoning from single family to multiple apartments. We had 80% against it. Planning commissioner said, “Oh well, we will pass it anyway.” Q (CM Tuttle): How long ago did this happen? A (Sjogren): 3 years. A (CM Tuttle): It goes to planning commission then it still goes to council after that to pass it. C (Sjogren): Developer laughed at us in the hallway. Said he would do whatever he wants to do. It hasn’t been developed yet because his finances fell through. C (DAB): We know there’s no sign up. They haven’t been notified. How can we do anything? 4  Page |5 A: You can approve as written. You can recommend deferring. You can recommend denial. Those are the three main actions. Your action tonight informs the planning commission. I will check into it anyway to make sure proper notification. C (Zevenbergen): As long as legal notification has been done, MAPC does not have to honor the deferment. Even if planning commission approves, you can protest that decision. C (DAB): Happen to be in right place at right time. Don’t wait for something to happen. Take it upon yourself to get the word out to your neighbors. And that’s only 250 feet. People won’t be too happy. Spread it out further than that. Action Taken: Motion to DEFER the application until proper notice has been given to residents made by Sam Lindeman. Seconded by Nazir Jesri. MOTION PASSED 9-1-0 10. CUP2019-00012 Philip Zevenbergen, Metropolitan Area Planning Department, presented an application on behalf of Frederick Hermes (owner)/ Dogs & Cats LLC, Blake Bauer (agent). Develop parcel 8. Intended use for indoor doggy daycare. Does have a short presentation. Same facility went through on West Central got approved. This is their second location in Wichita. Will defer business matter to Blake. I’ll talk about zoning application. Code requires 5 acres unless they will be indoors. Property only .97 acres. Reducing setback as well to allow less than an acre. Kennel and training facility. Kenneling will be indoors. Outside at prescribed time for outdoor play. One or two staff members with dogs outside at certain times. Allowed by conditional use. All kenneling will be done indoors. In area is a QuikTrip and some shopping centers. Office building, preschool and daycare. Nursing home and rehab. This was heard May 9th and it passed. We are now in the protest period. MAPC passed it 11-2. Staff is recommending approval. Blake is here and has a presentation. Q (DAB): Any maximum on number units that can be kenneled? A: It’s written for up to 150 dogs. That number is very unlikely, but used to manage parking requirement Blake Bower – We will build a brand new facility. West side 5500 West Central – relocation of existing facility. This will be brand new. A lot of places are mom and pop places that might be a little run down. We have locations in Marion, Manhattan, Topeka, Lawrence, and Leewood. North KC and Columbia MO. Centered around the dogs. Never by themselves. Not boarded outside. Brand new shoreline kennels. Finishes in facility will have rubber flooring in play rooms and epoxy flooring, and another type of flooring. K9 grass outside. Specifically made for use with animals. Main things that have come up is security of animals. 8 foot vinyl privacy fencing. Dogs cannot see in or out of it. If dogs can’t see out, they aren’t barking. Dogs grouped by temperament, age, and size. In between fences will have privacy fences as well. Safety and happiness of pups is most important. Will have day play. Drop your dog off and let your active dog do something. Night stay for boarding and grooming, and a cat room when you’re gone on vacation. Standard of care. Behavioral assessment on first visit. Will fire your pup if they don’t play well. Need shots and spayed or neutered. Do music for calming effect. All staff are trained. 8 foot tall privacy fence. Dogs are shuffled in and out of facility. Kennels are indoors. Also have luxury suites. TV and private door. Finding people want to spoil their pup. About 5x6 or 5x7. 5  Page |6 Brand new glazing and front desk area. Security cameras at all times. We use Rescue to clean the facility because it is vet recommended. Kills 99% of pathogens within 1 minute. Safe around pups. Disinfects and cleans. Outdoor yard is very clean because people out there at all times. Pick up and double bag solid waste and thrown away then hauled off. Trash can in each play yard then standard trash corral. 127th and 21st street. Right behind QuikTrip in Reeds Cove. We had to put a number on the dogs for the parking ratio. We looked at number of spots we thought we needed, then used the dog number based on that. 100 – 120 kennels but dogs are in and out of there all day. That’s where that count comes from. Only 2 other doggy daycare I could find on the east side. I thought this location would fit a need by being there. Freddy’s Franchisees. Expanding this because our owner is a dog lover and this fulfills a need. Our home office has a Woofs Doggy Day care right next to our building. This is not a loud facility we aren’t a nuisance. We believe in it and we work right next to the daycare as well. Q (DAB): Can you show layout of fencing? A: North and west. New building has gone in next to the QuikTrip. Q (Public) May Cole 2525 North Summerset: Heard this at Evergreen library. The chemical he’s talking about don’t know if used on inside or outside. What chemicals are used outside? Only comment is in Sedgwick County area is problem with ground water, I would suggest if approved, before it installed do a groundwater test before it is built. Have him explain to us how often play yard gets cleaned with chemical? A: Outdoor play yard cleaned with Rescue and a brush will clean it up. Cleaned daily. Grass set on about a foot AB3. Dogs can’t dig it up. Natural material and it will go down through it. Q (Public) Karen Terrill 2133 North Linwood Court: You say will be individual in play yard with dogs. What % of day will dogs be in yard with dogs? What is ratio of animal to human? A: Kansas doesn’t have a law that requires a ratio – so it depends on temperament of dogs. 1-2 humans with each group. Could be 10 dogs could be 20 dogs. Q (Terrill): You have several facilities – how many animals do you have license for vs how many you have and how many dogs you have. A: Manhattan had 60 dogs this weekend. Sometimes goes up to 80. Topeka, Manhattan, and Lawrence don’t have dog max requirements. Overland Park is 14,000 sq foot. This is less than 10k. West side 6k square foot with 60 dogs for parking ratio. C (Public) Fred 2401 N 224th Street West: Owner of nursing facility next to it. I stopped by the Manhattan facility, I was very impressed. It was extremely clean. Very nice facility, probably 70-75 dogs. Plenty of staff. Only heard one dog. Our activity director is ecstatic. They are really excited. We are very much in support of this. Jason Tanner in building to the north is in support as well. I have a son that’s a vet. I’ve never seen such a high class quality environment in all my life I’m very impressed. They have a lot of staff and embrace people with disabilities. Saw a staff with Downs and she was loving on those dogs. C (Public) Wes Galia Downs West Linwood Court: Concern is that’s a lot of dogs in fairly small space in an area not fully developed out. I can see it’s a first class facility. Facilities age over time. 150 cars then you dump out onto 127th street and 21st street. That place is busy especially with those churches there. Any increased traffic is bad. You can’t stop dogs barking. I’m not interested in hearing dogs bark. I don’t want odors or excessive sounds. It’s a problem for the neighbors. Dogs in Reeds Cove bark all the time. When the rest of the area builds up that will be more and more. 6  Page |7 Q (Public) Kathy Green 2105 North Glenwood Ct. in Reeds Cove: Reducing from 5 acres to less than 1 acre you consider that minimum? 50 feet setback to 15 feet laughable that it’s a minimum. There are 5 doggy daycares in the area. I take mine to one. Those dogs bark. Traffic is a concern. I work from home – 500 feet from facility. People I’m talking to can hear my dog bark outside my home. Put it near the highway instead of my back yard. I would mention groundwater testing. I live near the retention pond in the neighborhood. Had to spend money to re-dredge after QuikTrip went in. What do you do if you receive a noise complaint from neighbor or police officer? A: Don’t have a policy about what we do with noise complaints. We train on how to keep dogs safe and quiet. I understand we have trained people. Q: My dog is registered and has certificates – he is not quiet. A: We do the best we can. We set up a system so we can keep them quiet and as happy as possible. Q (DAB): Dispose of solid waste using paper or plastic? A: Plastic. C (DAB): Dropping 80% isn’t trivial. But sure dogs will bark. Action Taken: Motion to APPROVE the application with conditions as presented made by Joe Goetz. Seconded by Nick Howell. MOTION PASSED 8-0-2 11. Trap Neuter Release (TNR) Ordinance Proposal Stephanie McCurdy, Past Chair of Animal Services Advisory Board, presented a proposal for an ordinance that covers Trap Neuter Return (TNR). TNR – formerly trap neuter release. Few years ago TNR was important to Wichita community. Developed committee to research. Reduce outdoor cat population by spay and neuter and return to environment. Ensure animals are well taken care of. Undergo the surgery, ears notched, given a few days to recover, then returned to their environment. Happening on a smaller scale in community now. Will continue to happen. You are familiar that cats can have nearly 10 in litter. Gestation period smaller. Can have 2-3 litters a year. Halts that reproduction. We also vaccinate against rabies and other diseases depending on available resources. Decreases nuisance complaints. Un-neutered male cats spray, this stops that. Right now we are in kitten season. Every day multiple litters being brought into animal services each day. TNR allows us to be able to be put into adoption. Can also allow reunification with owners if it’s a runaway. Goal is to decrease population over time. 2015 developed committee to develop a standard in COW. Community survey – 20% people thought feral cats were a nuisance. 64% thought city should do something 48% wanted to reduce euthanasia of feral cats. Police department formed internal committee to check for enforceability. Showed ordinance text. Creation of TNR that addresses overpopulation of cats is important to COW. 2118 cats euthanized in 2015. 1,630 cats euthanized in 2016; 1,227 euthanized in 2017; 920 cats euthanized in 2018. Organization in Wichita has been doing TNR in community. In 2015, this organization TNRed 662 cats. In 2018, they did 1,017 cats. Already done 483 in Wichita this year. Only euthanizing 25% of cats coming into shelter. Approximate cost to keep an animal in the shelter is $20 – $25 a day. On average they keep an animal 12 days. State law is 3 days cat is held. Gives time for owners to reunite with cats. Friends of Felines (FOF) costs them about $10 per cat to do this. 7  Page |8 Mandated registration for cat colonies, annual reporting requirements, enforced by Animal Services if warranted. We’ve had a lot of questions about wow do we enforce outside of TNR? Already covered in other ordinances. Animal services can take action. Buy in for TNR – cost COW $0. Community driven program. Can create other funding sources to fund TNR – apply for more grants. But we need an ordinance in place to apply for other grants to help spay and neuter on a larger scale. Better than being government focused because it is community focused. Community will embrace. Without TNR stress on shelters and community. It will resolve the problem. Recommendation to place ordinance on first reading and move forward. Q (DAB): Is there a fee for registered community cat colony? A: Haven’t done the guidelines yet. Q (DAB): Who does annual reporting? A: The caregivers would report to the city. To know where they are, how many cats in colony. Q (DAB): Is there some form or template? Caregiver a volunteer. How do you enforce the annual reporting? A: Yes they are volunteers – Animal Services already gets calls and checks on that. Q (DAB): Maximum size for colony? A: 8 cats. Q (CM Tuttle): FOF will do the reporting? A: Correct. FOF already doing this on a small scale. Other community members and other rescues that will step in and help with reporting. Q (DAB): On surface sounds like you’re doing a great job. Why do we need an ordinance? A: Reduction in euthanasia rate is great. We want to bring everyone into compliance and identify where all colonies are. Opens up opportunities for grant money. Q (DAB): 501c3? A: Rescues that are doing this are yes. C (DAB): I can tell you I will abstain – time problem. I learned of this on Friday. Weren’t many con letters. Got several pro letters. There is research out there on effectiveness. I don’t think I’ve had the time to research. Isn’t really a happy solution here. Public heath solution seems to be mixed. Being able to control all variables that goes into success seems to be a daunting task. Texas AM tried to control variables on effectiveness they were mixed. Not discouraged, but I don’t feel like I’ve had time to do the research. Q (DAB): Is it true that if you feed them you own them in ordinance? A: Just a caregiver, not owner. A: Jan Jarman with Law Department – Currently if you feed it, you harbor it, it is yours. That would change in new ordinance. Not owner, but caregiver. Q (DAB): so if they feed, they don’t own, they are caregiver. A: That person would continue being their caregiver. They would be responsible for medical care. Q (DAB): Why wouldn’t they be responsible as an owner? A: they do it already? Q (DAB): How is this enforced? How will it be? A: Animal services gets a complaint and tries to deal with it – Wichita animal services. Under WPD. Q (DAB): They can write a citation? A: Yes Q (DAB) grants are limited – what’s the gap in terms of financially until grant comes in? A: Organizations that are already doing this. Taking donations and donation drives. Right now a little over 500. Will apply for that and do it on a larger scale. K-State mobile unity comes down 1once a month. C (DAB): Read it was $60 a cat and you’re doing this at Kansas Humane Society? A: Can’t speak on that. Q (DAB): Only two reported cases of rabies in Sedgwick County. One was a bat, one was a skunk. 8  Page |9 Public – Q (Public) Michael Loop 4323 East Mount Vernon: Trap and Neuter agreeable but it’s the release that we have issues. What is a nuisance? It’s a broad term. A (McCurdy): Can’t speak on City’s behalf. A (CM Tuttle): Ordnance states repeated act of cat that damages rights and privileges, property damage, etc. Q (Loop): Can still be a nuisance or health hazard right? A (Jarman): If we prove it’s a nuisance then we take the cat. Written to not just take cats. Given 30 days. Might attempt to rehome. Doesn’t always work. Eventually it can be euthanized. C (Public) Steve Robison 9235 East Lakepoint Drive: I’m a lawyer and I’ve read these. Current policy defines abandoned cat as a cat that has returned to feral state. Abandoned cat is declared to be a nuisance to public health. This ordnance does not declare to change that. Look at ordnance. #1 no limit on how many people can have feral cats. Every adult can have 8 feral cats. There’s no limit. Also you mention nuisance as repeated act. 1 act does not make a nuisance but right now it is. This ordinance requires repeated act. On paragraph C3 – community cat caregiver is responsible care giver but now owner. So these people aren’t liable. They want protection from liability. That means City gets sued. This is an odd ordinance. C (Public) Marilyn Overton with District 1 Matlock Heights Neighborhood Association: Live on a street with 40 feral cats. There’s a difference. Cats have kittens after 3 months. How can City control that? Right now animal control don’t have enough people to monitor. Animal control don’t have enough people to monitor. They will have other people come in to do it. We have an infestation of cats. Those figures doesn’t include how many cats are in Wichita, just ones that have been caught. Eating out of trash cans, doing different things. I’m allergic. I got sick from cats coming around my house, I shouldn’t have to be bothered. Cats are taking over because they are multiplying so fast. You live in an area where there aren’t a bunch of cats, but there are on my street. I don’t hate animals, but I’m allergic and my health is important. You need to do something. C (Public) Tina Deen: President of Topeka Community Cat Fix Group. Statistics in Topeka is about same as Wichita. Same result in reduction of cats that are being euthanized. Data will show that catch and kill doesn’t work. When you kill cats new cats come in. Only long term solution to fixing problem of cats – problem humans created. Whether it’s animal control, we are called out to deal with nuisance. Spending money euthanized cats hasn’t fixed your problems yet. This is the right solution to get a handle. What major cities are doing all around the country. C (Public) Richard Ruth: Nature doesn’t care why a cat dies, whether it’s through natural causes or euthanasia. When people feed it, it increases carrying capacity. Litters will be larger. I saw ear tipped cats running around eating out of dumpsters. They were caught neutered and returned. The caregiver moved. They get around state law which has made abandonment of an animal a cruelty case – but these people aren’t able to have them. The place has lots of cats. It stinks. Little children running around. Seven cats running around with ear tips. No care takers were taking care of them. We have state laws to protect cats. This ordinance does not protect cats. If people are not taking care of them then we can go back on them. Way too much ambiguity and no oversite. Data they will report is summary and no real insight. Jon Stewart on Liberty – if people are shouted down from open meetings that’s not a real dialogue. Dangerous. C (Public) Teresa Burks: On Animal Control Advisory Board since beginning. TNR was a polarized group. Only person that had a cat problem was bullied out. I’m a vet. Signed an oath – this does nothing to promote animal health. Cats are responsible to one species of birds. Australia they are killing off cats with poison. Cats need microchipped. Rabies need boosters. Carry round worms in feces – health issue. Carry ring worm. Toxoplasmosis. Lots of other things. Have seen cats from Newton TNR suffered and died. People couldn’t catch them. Suffered slow miserable death. FIV, feline leukemia. Doesn’t benefit the person. We tried to specify some things. Big thing is TNR not terrible, not horrible, but putting something else is not TNR. 9  P a g e | 10 C (Public) Esme Banuelos D3: I get it. They are a nuisance. I understand. When I was a kid, I saw a cat outside. Took it into house. I kept cat outside. Didn’t have money. Didn’t have resources. Cat had kittens. Ended up with 16 cats. Didn’t know what to do. Didn’t want to kill it. Being with people like this – TNR got to keep some of those cats. We caught four of them. One died. It had a disease. They helped me catch them. You can see it on my Youtube channel. See how we trap them safely. Nobody gets hurt. Animal control good luck catching my cat. These people taught me safe way to catch all cats get them all neutered and fixed. Grateful they helped me people without money. Birds – mine brought dead birds to front porch – over time population of cats decreased – some got ran over – some died because they got sick. All of them fixed – no more babies. People like this can help me. C (Public) Francine Guyette 525 North Richmond: Moved in to my block almost 10 years ago. Neighbor having kittens born under shed. He didn’t have cats, didn’t like cats. Ashamed of that euthanizing them/ FOF helped me. We rounded up next bunch that came in had them TNR. Have good relationships with cats. If they are fed every day they come back to you. My colony does not leave my yard. You can trap them and give them annual rabies shots. Not all colonies can get re-trapped. We make sure they are cared for. If I can’t take care of mine, someone feeds them. Colony care givers are not cat hoarders. We don’t want kittens. Lost one to old age. He had a good last 4 years. Not all are cruel and mistreated. C (Public) Ellen Querm: Sit on advisory board, passed 4-3 vote – did not go far enough. It’s incomplete. Does not protect public, property rights, wildlife. Email talked about amendments that need to be done before passing. Who wants to move next door to 8 cats? Last 3 years intake of cats remained same. Euthanasia dropped, but TNR didn’t drop euthanasia rate- rescues got together and found homes for them. Many were not feral. Can’t judge this program based on those numbers. Topeka has different type of ordnance where they won’t touch them. Nuisance ordnance is a level 3. They don’t hardly go over level 1 or 2. They’ll never go after level 3. People will deal with cat colonies with poison. I don’t want them. Don’t approve this flawed ordinance. Go back to legal. Put in protection for wildlife and property owners. C (Public) Daniel Householder 7705 East Killarney Ct. – Recommendation gets at one part of problem but not another. Largest part is free range cats. Fertile or not, they kill birds and other wildlife. Agree this proposal this doesn’t solve overall problem. Hate to think passing this means things will be fine in 20 years. Could go back to committee for additional work. Or other ordinances to address problem. C (Public) Linda Rieger 2328 North Rosemont Ct: Moved from California – was familiar with problem then – almost like déjà vu – got to start somewhere – great place to start. Number of states that have this as state ordinance. It works. People discard cats and pets. Other states do mandate that pets must be chipped. There are repercussions. Cat is abandoned in feral colony and ends up pregnant. Mandatory in California. Hot issue. Look to the future, you have to start somewhere. Look at what is working in other states. Take in constructive step-by-step and learn from other states. C (Public) William Langley 944 North Crestline: Science is being neglected – 3 well-known colonies being studied – proven not to work. Two different issues here – euthanasia and cat population. The cat population has quadrupled since the 90s. Between 148 1 and 188 million cats in US. Number of cats in Wichita around 105k and 134k cats. Take the lower estimate. Dr. Folley veterinarian – estimates to control cat pop that 70% females need to be sterilized. Let’s say 10% feral. Half female. Have to neuter 70%. Have to sterilize 3,675 female cats. Their number isn’t anywhere near. 450 cat colonies in Wichita to take care of females. Can’t just trap female cats. About 900 colonies first year less after. Those will be in your neighborhood. Problem with cats in colonies, communicative diseases. Lawrence had diseases. C (Public) Linda Lenstable 19 North Sandpiper Circle: Against ordinance – survey implication suggested community supported TNR – but doesn’t ask about TNR. Web based survey – a lot of people didn’t even look at it. Not a fair representation. Posted on Facebook on City and Police Department Facebook. I didn’t 10  P a g e | 11 see it. I’m on the advisory board. People didn’t see it. I don’t think you can imply people are in favor of TNR. C (Public) Kent Barly 728 Barwood: I believe in trapping and neutering. Talking about feral cats, colony cats, wild cats. Not pets. Major damage, nuisance, causes pets inside to get out to get them. Cats inside house having problems with outside feral cats. Ordinance needs rewritten. Return does not work. We have 15 cats across the street. Major destruction from cats on porches. They’ve been on my front porch. Urination smells. Over 5,000 dollars in damage in properties. Been in jail from trying to protect myself from these cats. I can’t sue anyone. Can’t hold anyone liable for them. Kids think they are pets. These cats can turn on them. These cats are wild. Not somebody’s pet. Wild cats are right up there with too many deer and too many coyotes. C (Public) Mary Cole 2525 North Summerset: Personal situation. Down to last feral cat – almost 14. I do need this ordinance. My situation started in 2004. I had no direction. Community cat got pregnant. By 2007 I was caring for 12 feral cats. Down to my last one. Two cats that were abandoned. Those eat at my house. Neighbor died. That cat eats at my house. Other neighbor has a Pitbull. Responsible for several litters. Terrorized the cats. Has them on chains. Female is no longer there. Six puppies several years ago. Pit bull ordinance – spay neuter, chipped. Can’t report neighbor. But he can report me. I need this ordinance to protect me. C (Public) Cindy Cameron 1048 Patricia Street: I love cats. My issue is putting them back. The return part. They come up and are always in my yard. Like my flower beds for litter boxes. Can’t go out front door without it smelling so bad. Can’t go out front door with my Chihuahuas. Cats will kill birds in back yard. Never had fleas until last 2 years. Cats bringing fleas into my yard. I take care of my dogs, these cats are putting them in jeopardy. C (Public) Hillary Clark 4141 South Seneca Street: Studies done in Texas, Florida, Italy other places – case studies in all places show TNR effective at reducing colony size. Cats are already there. Trying to reduce population of cats for future. No one is saying feral cats don’t poses problems. We don’t want as many as there are today. If you approve of trap and neuter but not return, what is your alternative? Catch and kill isn’t effective. It doesn’t work. TNR only humane and effective way. We created this problem. We shouldn’t make cats pay. C (Public) Chris Leddon 5401 Stoneborough Street: We built a house in old farm area. We had dozens of cats. Today we have a colony of 6. Someone stepped up and took care of them. Sooner or later numbers will reduce. Appreciation and respect to everyone. Monk seal advocate. Toxoplasmosis – feral cat in Hawaii very large. It is a good solid foundation. County of Hawaii looking at it. Take leap of faith and start now. If it doesn’t work, then we’ll try something a little different .New Zealand is killing wild cats. C (Public) Maria Acosta 1913 East Wassall: I became involved with FOF a year and a half ago. Called FOF and took 10 cats out of the neighborhood and TNRed them – same number as last year. Seen a turn around. These cats are no longer mean and hateful. Eat at community plate. All get along. Things have changed drastically. No longer hormone driven. Two years living there, one dead bird. Mainly mice. If this was dogs, would we be having the same discussion? Cats aren’t disposable. These cats found me and I chose to take care of them. They’re our babies. C (Public) Eric Miller 952 Faulkner: These are all today’s issues. Want more of the same, then don’t do anything. Without doing anything, we will have more of the same. I learned as an engineer to get data. Legitimize it and get the data. Gather it and analyze it. You have to have the data or you won’t get to a solution. C (Public) Michael Nolen 2201 East McArthur: I’ve been attending these meetings since I first read about it. This one is exactly the ordinance you get when you don’t listen to both sides. A small group took over a 11  P a g e | 12 committee. All of these issues were brought up a long time ago. No one was interested in any of these issues. This committee should kick it back to the committee. The work has not been done. Everyone knows the work was there to do. Q (Public) Cindy Kykendaul 3700 South Tyler Road: This area has been a dumping ground. 2006 one cat was a friendly – had kittens. 4 litters later – we got with FOF and they helped us trap all of them. 20 cats fixed over the years. Down to 3. Every cat gets picture taken and I try to see who he belongs to then get him fixed. A lot of animal lovers in neighborhood. The cats stay in our yard. Cats seem to be more focused on mice. Owls are more likely to get my cats. A (McCurdy): We’ve been doing this for years and the problem hasn’t been fixed. Give us guidance and feedback. We need City Council to determine where to go from here. Not an easy answer. Not a fix all. What we’ve done before is a Band-Aid. C (DAB): We heard a lot of different things – C3 keeps me from approving this now. Action Taken: Motion to NOT APPROVE (DENY) the proposal as presented made by Junetta Everett. Seconded by Nick Howell. MOTION PASSED 7-1-1 Concerns: C (DAB) Tracee Adams: Ordinances are enforceable by law – we’re basing our enforcement on volunteers – not a good practice. Putting an ordinance on books based on volunteers just is not a good practice. C (DAB) Joe Goetz: Saw too much anecdotal information and not enough data. It’s important that we do data driven decisions. We need to collect data and measure what we do and move forward. Hesitation is the political process. We don’t do a good job of revisiting and doing long term. C (DAB) Nick Howell: Paragraph states up to 8 cats but within a neighborhood could be 4 people each with 8 cats that concerns me. C (DAB) David Babich: I appreciate data part, but data needs to be compiled by animal control and not special interest groups. Anecdotal. We have animal control people who deal with the data. I would respect data from a neutral source. Lt Sigman gave data on euthanasia. C (DAB) Tracee Adams: Conversation on whether it worked or not is not relevant to the ordinance. Meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m. The next DAB II meeting will be held at 6:30 p.m., Monday, June 10, 2019, at Rockwell Branch Library, 5939 E 9th St N, Wichita, KS 67208. 12