Diversity, Inclusion and Civil Rights Advisory Board
Regular MeetingWichita, KS · August 24, 2021
Minutes
Minutes
Wichita Diversity, Inclusion & Civil Rights Advisory
Board
August 24, 2021
5:30 PM-7:30 PM
Members Present: Dioane Gates, Thy X Phan, Kenzie Borland, Renee Carrion (virtual), Pastor Pamela
Hughes Mason (virtual), Tabitha Lehman (virtual), Kelli Grant, Shala Perez, : William Polite Jr.
Members Absent: Jennifer Brehon, Michelle Cadena
City Staff: Adam Nebenzahl, Management Fellow; Donte Martin, Assistant City Manager; LaShonda
Garnes WSU/PPMC; Jamie Buster, Deputy City Clerk; Susan Leiker, HR; Angeline Johnson, WSU/PPMC
Guests:
Item Description
1. Welcome and Roll Call Present members introduced themselves and who they were appointed
by.
2. Approval of Agenda for Pastor Mason moved, Kenzie seconded. Motion passes 8-0.
August 24, 2021
3. Approval of Minutes Pastor Mason moved, Shala seconded. Motion passes 8-0.
for July 22, 2021
4. DICR Advisory Board a. Tabitha did not have any concerns.
By-law Discussion b. Pastor Mason asked about item 8 as it relates to the description of
the chair person. She mentioned about its comparison to a
parliamentarian and wanted clarification between the two roles.
LaShonda confirmed it is similar to other advisory boards. This was
originally established by a different group earlier in the year and
emphasized that they can be changed. Pastor Mason questioned if
a third person could be added. The secretary position is filled by a
city staffer to ensure proper discussion by all members. There is the
opportunity to add another position of the board.
c. Tabitha asked if Pastor Mason wanted to see something different.
Pastor Mason clarified the role of a parliamentarian and their role
of overseeing Robert’s Rules of order.
d. Pasto Mason moves to insert a position of parliamentarian who is
versed in Robert’s Rules of order, quorum, and advise the chair
person. Kenzie seconded. Dioane Gates, Thy Phan, Kenzie Borland,
Renee Carrion, Pastor Mason, Tabitha Lehman, William Polite vote
in favor. Shala, Kelli vote against. 7-2 motion passes.
5. Kansas Leadership a. Dennis Clary, director of custom civic engagement. He explained
Center (KLC) Update on that the KLC was engaged by the city to facilitate the engagement
the Discussion they will process around the NDO.
facilitate with key b. Emphasized the desire for the board to be involved. Desires
stakeholders regarding authentic feedback.
the Non-Discrimination c. Explained the background of the KLC. It is a non-profit organization
Ordinance (NDO) committed to fostering leadership for stronger, healthier and more
prosperous Kansas communities.
d. Defined leadership and their leadership principles.
e. Gave background on the Non-Discrimination Ordinance. Explained
the purpose of the City and KLC partnership. Ultimate goal is to
create a trustworthy process. Introduced the Collaborative Premise
and Collaborative Leadership.
f. Explained KLC’s work including facilitation of a public meeting and
produce a comprehensive report that fairly represents and codifies
the values and perspectives of the discussion participants
g. Defined what KLC’s expectations are: participation at the board’s
discretion.
h. Dennis opened up to questions. What questions the board has, how
to be involved, what excites them, and what concerns them.
i. Tabitha asked defining advocacy groups and whether that includes
faith groups or those who could be discriminated against. Dennis
clarified that it means all organizations.
j. Donte Martin, spoke about the City’s goals for the session. He
explained that the session will include background of current state
and federal regulations and identifying gaps and if and how the city
should act to address those gaps. Donte asked how the board help
the Board get all the necessary information to making a
recommendation. Established 3 recommendations: members of the
board participate as individuals, the board participates as a whole
body, or the board crafts their own process. Donte opened it up for
questions and comments.
k. Kenzie asked for clarification as to KLC’s role. Donte explained that
KLC is here as a facilitator of a session between stakeholders
relating to the NDO. They are here to gauge interest in having KLC
participate.
l. Tabitha welcomed KLC participation and finds that experience
valuable.
m. Dioane Gates asked about the third option and asked for
clarification. Donte answered that it is up to the board what that
may look like and explained background of previous meetings and
the NDO and how that became an option.
n. Pastor Mason asked for explanation of option 1 again. Donte
explained option 1 again. Clarified that finals recommendations to
the Council will be made as a board.
o. Kelli asked if KLC is involved, will there be input on equitable
representation in the meeting. Donte explained that there would
be discussion.
p. Shala asked if the board participated as a body, would there be
conflict if individuals make comments and bring their own voices
and opinions. Donte stated that he did not believe there would be a
conflict of interest. Shala stated that she would like to see the body
participate as a whole. Shala wanted to see a formal schedule
giving the public ample notice.
q. Kenzie asked what the cost for the facilitation by KLC is. Is it tax
payer money? Donte clarified that there will be a cost and contract
between the City and KLC
r. Pastor Mason asked if we are at the place to make the decision or if
we needed to discuss more. LaShonda answered that she is going
to facilitate making a decision on those 3 options. She clarified that
the facilitation will be between specific groups, and that the public
will be able to join, but will not be directly engaged.
s. LaShonda reiterated the three options: meeting as a body, meeting
as individuals, or the board crafting their own process.
t. Tabitha clarified that KLC will be engaged with the City regardless of
Board participation.
u. Shala asked for clarification if we act as a body, they still have their
own timeline and public participation. LaShonda confirmed that the
board can add on additional meetings, but time is limited.
v. William Polite Jr. asked for clarification on option 3. LaShonda
explained that KLC will continue their facilitation with key
stakeholder groups and the Board will craft their own engagement
process.
w. Tabitha asked if submitting group recommendations to participate
will be available beyond tonight and LaShonda confirmed.
x. Tabitha motioned for option 1 and Pastor Mason seconded. Dioane
Gates, Thy Phan, Tabitha Lehman, Kelli Grant, Shala Perez, Pastor
Mason, William Polite vote in favor. Kenzie Borland and Renee
Carrion vote against. 7-2 motion carries.
y. LaShonda asked if there are questions that KLC should ask with the
stakeholder group. LaShonda also said she would follow up with
Board too allow further though
z. Dioane Gates asked about penalization process and how it will be
enforced.
aa. LaShonda asked who should be at the table to make an informed
decision. Also when will we have this facilitated conversation?
bb. Kenzie reiterated prior meeting s that Board members are
interested in taking the time. She also emphasized the importance
of live stream for transparency purposes.
cc. Kelli asked if KLC and DICRAB reports will be publicly available.
LaShonda stated it will be on the DICRAB website.
dd. Dioane Gates asked how much influence the board should have on
the NDO. What does the public think the board should have on
influence on the final decision?
6. Non-Discrimination a. Jennifer Magana here to present what was presented to the
Ordinance (NDO) Council regarding the NDO.
Update and Board b. Board decided that City Staff will facilitate Public Comment.
Discussion c. Ground rules about speaking length. Tabitha felt comfortable
allowing 5 minutes per person to speak. William and Kelli preferred
3 minutes. No opposition for 3 minutes.
d. Jennifer Magana presented the following: states prohibit
discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations.
Defined the protected classes. State of Kansas has statute that does
not include Gender or Gender Identity. This NDO would mirror
Kansas Human Rights commission policy. Jennifer furthered defined
rules and exceptions inn the proposed ordinance in regards to
housing, employment, and public accommodation. Explained the
protections for respondents. Explained the enforcement process,
would be treated as a civil violation. Defined the expected
outcomes of the City NDO.
e. Tabitha asked clarification that the city is an enforcing agency. Also
asked if there is repercussion for false accusations. Jennifer
answered that as written it is not addressed.
f. Kelli asked how the Kansas Human Commission is selected since the
City is mirroring the policy. Jennifer was not absolutely sure but
believe there is a board. Explain the difference between
interpretation and codification.
g. Dioane Gates asked about slide three about the difference in
protected classes versus state law. Jennifer clarified that the State
does not include sexual orientation or Gender as protected classes.
The Kansas Human Rights Commission adopted a policy statement
based on recent Supreme Court decisions. DIoane asked if the
Bostic case defined the difference between Sex, Sexual orientation,
and gender. Jennifer Magana clarified the broad ruling that Bostic
Supreme Court Case had. Dioane Gates asked on slide 7 and
wanted an example of rental of real property if owner resides on
property and no more than four families or individuals. He then
asked if there are other statutes that already exist where they are
protected. Jennifer Magana gave an explanation on the enforcing
agency compared to state and federal law with this proposed
ordinance. Dioane asked how a ruling would be interpreted by the
state and federal courts. Jennifer was unsure how it rulings would
be interpreted.
7. Public Comment a. Liz Hamor: outreach advocate for LGBTQ+ community. Gave
introduction and opening to meet and discuss the NDO. Wanted to
highlight frustration of intersectionality. Emphasized that sexual
orientation and gender are not codified as protected classes under
the law. Wanted the board to understand the intersectionality of
humans. Asked that this be kept in the forefront. That people may
have multiple marginalized identities
b. Brenda Way: Explained why she felt there needs to be this NDO.
Emphasized that many groups are marginalized. Believes that the
city needs to abolish discrimination and believe this would help.
Recognized ordinance 5.70 about use of restrooms and the risks
she faces as a transgendered individual.
c. Stephanie Byers: Defined who she is and explained her desire and
her belief for the need for the NDO. Explained that Kansas could
pass counter legislation disallowing cities from passing NDO.
d. Andrew Hubbard: Requested that the DICRAB meeting be
livestreamed. Did not understand the contracts with KLC and the
City, did not like the three options presented. IN support of the
NDO and explained examples of where he was discriminated
against. Wanted extended for homeless shelters. Wanted good
recommendations to the Council.
e. Anthony Mai: Member of Wichita for 25 years. Master of Social
Work. IN support of the NDO. Gave his story of his life experiences
as a queer individual. Believes the NDO will protect all citizens.
Speaking for the students and kids to feel safe with who they are.
f. Kendall Hawkins: Policy coordinator, advocate, and veteran. In
support of the NDO. Explained her students and how they would be
affected by the NDO. Would like to see support for this ordinance
reiterated the intersectionality of people.
g. Sarah Myose: Wants the board to consider the voices that cannot
be heard and cannot come into the spaces such as the council
meeting because of the timing of these meetings. Stated that this
ordinance should be only the beginning of the conversation and
should empower queer and transgender individuals. Emphasized
investment in young people and those of the next generation.
h. Noah Blanco: Wanted to emphasize the cost of bringing cases to
the state and federal courts. Believe that the funding should be
free. Shortcomings in proposed NDO is in housing. Believes that
organizations that have institutionalized continue these practices.
Fears legislation that would put people’s lives at risk. Believes that
the NDO should go further and be fairer on more specific fronts
such as housing. NDO helps communities grow. Believes there a lot
of problems that are not being addressed and not whether or not it
should be needed.
i. Nancy Tanton: Likes to see people as people. Believes there are two
groups at odds and that they should come together. Going to give
up rights so others can have rights and vice versa. Believes there
should be non-affiliated or other faith groups and places for people
to go. Does not want people to hold on to their rights so strongly.
As a landlord, does not ask questions that could put people at risk
of discrimination.
j. June Scott: Wanted clarification about her recommendations put in.
LaShonda Clarified They have been received and will be added with
other public comment.
k. Chris Pumpelly: Wants rights to be respected. Explained that he
deserves respect and dignity as a member of the LGTBQ. Said how
important this was, but that he is a child abuser and not welcome.
Is in Wichita to make sure that 15 year old is for him too. Believes
that the Advisory Board is being outsourced. Questioned who the
key stakeholders that will be affected are. Submitted the municipal
equality index. Believes this NDO can be the strongest in the state
and the nation. Wants Wichita to be great, now. Does not want to
settle.
8. Officer Election Update l.
9. Open Discussion a. Tabitha commented that speakers expressed concern about
whether the NDO is necessary at all. Stated that she believes it is
necessary and that it is important. Desires to slow this process
down. Believes it needs to be done right. Emphasized this is not an
attempt to stall, but rather to do it correctly.
b. Dioane requests numbers from similar size cities other than the
state of Kansas.
c. Tabitha requested to see public comments in a steady stream.
d. William Polite confused in use of restroom in Ordinance 5.70 and
wanted clarification who will be able to used restrooms. Jennifer
will need to get back to the board on that question.
e. Pastor Mason emphasized appreciation on comments from the
public and the information
10. Next Steps a. Tabitha was expecting a facilitated conversation before this
meeting, but looking for absolute confirmation that this will
happen. LaShonda clarified that dates will be presented in the
coming days/weeks.
b. Shala believes there needs to be a public comment session with
advanced notice to the public before the September 21th meeting.
c. Shala motioned to have a public comment session before
September 21st. Kenzie 2nd. 9-0 vote in favor. Can be put on zoom.
d. Pastor Mason expressed concern about separation of the board if
less than full available board participate in the public comment.
Tabitha also wanted to ensure DICRAB are not violating meeting
regulations. Jennifer Magana confirmed that as long as no action is
taken at the meeting, there is no minimum number.
e. Dioane Gates emphasized the need for higher participation of the
board. Shala continued discussion regarding attendance.
f. Kelli emphasized the importance to have a public comment session
and a facilitated session.
g. William Polite asked what influence the Board has over a final
decision. LaShonda clarified that the Board’s voice does have
influence because the task was given to them.
h. NDO will be brought back on September 21st to have a robust
discussion. Anticipated to have recommendations by September
21st.
i. Officer Election will be delayed until the October meeting.
j. No public comment at the September 21st meeting.
11. Adjourn a. Meeting adjourned at 7:53pm August 24, 2021.
Minutes filed by
Adam Nebenzahl, Secretary
Agenda
City of Wichita
Diversity, Inclusion and Civil Rights Advisory Board
Agenda
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City Hall 455 N. Main, 1st Floor | August 24, 2021 | 5:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Welcome & Roll Call
2. Approval of Agenda for August 24, 2021
3. Approval of Minutes for July 22, 2021
4. DICR Advisory Board By-law Discussion
5. Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) Update on the discussion they will facilitate
with key stakeholders regarding the Non-Discrimination Ordinance (NDO)
6. Non-Discrimination Ordinance (NDO) Update and Board Discussion
7. Officer Election Update
8. Open Discussion
9. Adjourn
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