Public Safety Committee
Regular MeetingCharleston, SC · November 25, 2019
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
November 25, 2019
A meeting of the Public Safety Committee was held this date beginning at 4:02 p.m., at 80
Broad Street, City Hall, First Floor Conference Room
Notice of this meeting was sent to all local news media.
PRESENT
Councilmember Shahid, Chair, Councilmember Lewis, Councilmember Seekings,
Councilmember Wagner and Mayor Tecklenburg Staff: Chief Reynolds, Chief Curia, Lieutenant
Bruder, Susan Herdina, Steve Ruemelin, Janie Borden, and Bethany Whitaker Also Present:
Lakesiya Cofield, Court Director, Joyce Downs, The Honorable Thomas P. Morrison, The
Honorable Michael A. Molony
The meeting was opened with an invocation given by Councilmember Lewis.
Approval of Minutes
On the motion of Councilmember Seekings, seconded by Councilmember Wagner, the
Committee voted unanimously to approve the minutes of the October 18, 2019 meeting.
Update from Municipal Court Administration
Chairman Shahid stated that at the last meeting, they had received information concerning the
backlog of cases. There were a total of 540 pending jury trial cases, involving 396 defendants
awaiting jury trials, plus an additional 167 DUI pending jury trials. They had received a very
detailed report as to the information, and it was comprehensive. They had asked the Municipal
Court staff to come back with ideas on how to reduce the pending cases. In the Ad-Hoc Budget
Committee meetings, they had talked about proposing an increase in the Court Administration
budget by adding a part-time DUI judge and a part-time DUI prosecutor.
Ms. Cofield stated that they were looking at implementing a DUI Court which would include a
DUI prosecutor and a DUI judge. The steps that they had talked about was to integrate the new
DUI prosecutor into the existing prosecutor schedule that they already had for 2020. They
wouldn’t add any additional weeks for jury trials. They would just plug in the DUI prosecutor
and judge so that they could work hand in hand to help get rid of the back log. The current
process in place notified the defendants and victims of their schedule. They would start
scheduling January 2020 pre-trials during the second week of December. It was recommended
by a judge to have the DUI judge to also try any DUI trial and absence cases. There was also a
recommendation to make sure the court room had adequate audio/video equipment. In the
interim, she had reached out to the Court Administrator in Mount Pleasant because they had a
DUI Court. That would be helpful to get some ideas that they might not have thought of. They
would also have a separate DUI docket to keep the cases separate. That would increase
productivity.
Chairman Shahid said that he was very familiar with Mount Pleasant because he was a judge
there. They had a dedicated day for all new DUI arrests. That was 10 days after the arrest. It
was their initial appearance. Having a dedicated day would be critical and they could pre-set
the dates. Then, they would know from the off-set what may happen with that case and
whether there would be a jury trial. Chief Reynolds stated that he thought this would be a
positive step. He had spoken to a Team 4 officer who had a case that was 2.5 years old. He was
excited about the recommendations. Chairman Shahid said in 30 days, the number of DUI cases
had gone up from 167 to 183. Ms. Cofield stated that for the 2017 cases, out of the four, one
was scheduled for December 2nd in hopes that it would be resolved. Another was schedule for
December 16th and two were scheduled for that week, but there had not been an update on
what happened with those cases. It was possible that all four could be resolved. Judge Molony
stated that this process would be great. Technology was important. With DUI cases, they had
the dash cam footage, the sobriety test, and a lot more hoops to jump through. It was a
question of resources and focusing in on cases.
Councilmember Lewis asked how long it took to try a DUI case. Judge Molony said that he
hoped they could be done in half a day, but that was never guaranteed. At a minimum, it was 3-
5 hours. Chairman Shahid stated that Mount Pleasant had two courtrooms and asked if they
had any space for another. Ms. Cofield stated that the DMV was moving from their location at
180 Lockwood and that could be an option. Mayor Tecklenburg said that was the City’s
building, so they planned to get all the stakeholders together to talk about the future use of the
space. Judge Molony stated that it would be great if they could all the footage needed on one
disc. There was also a program at the law school where law students would get everything
ready and then they could just push a button.
Chairman Shahid asked what kind of equipment they had right now. Ms. Downs stated that
they had flatscreen TV’s to hook a laptop to via HDMI. They didn’t have wifi capabilities.
Chairman Shahid stated that they should make sure that there was a dedicated IT person there
when they were in session. Judge Molony stated that would be helpful. Ms. Herdina stated that
another thing they were talking about was to have an officer in the court to help rewrite tickets.
They had been talking with Deputy Chief Broughton who would be working on that. Chairman
Shahid asked what the protocol was if an officer suspected a DUI. Chief Reynolds stated that
every officer out there was expected to be able to make a DUI arrest. They were working on an
increased amount of cameras, and technology training to get more uniformed and proficient.
They would always have people out there, especially now, with in car video cameras.
Councilmember Seekings stated there was still a big back log of non-DUI cases and asked what
the strategy was for those. Ms. Cofield said hopefully the prosecutors would try the cases. She
didn’t have a separate plan in place. Judge Molony stated that he could help with that and the
Gateway Program would be a big help and benefit. They had to talk a self-paced course online
and if completed, the case could be dismissed. Councilmember Seekings asked how many cases
were eligible for that. Judge Molony stated he thought it would be at least half of the cases.
They only got one shot to complete it and it took away all of the paperwork and waiting for
people to come in. Chairman Shahid asked what happened if they didn’t have access to a
computer. Ms. Downs said they could do it on their phone, or they could do it at the library.
Councilmember Seekings asked if there was a coordinator that monitored the program. Ms.
Downs said the prosecutor’s office handled it and they had to complete it within 45 days. Judge
Molony stated that they could apply this to pending cases, as well. The prosecutor had to offer
the program, and the people had to accept. Chairman Shahid said that the key question was
how many of the defendants would be eligible for the program. Councilmember Seekings asked
if they got input from the public, if that would dissuade them from putting people in the
program. Judge Molony stated it was generally the prosecutor’s decision. Councilmember
Seekings said that they did still have to clear the cases appropriately and not use the program
for every case because it was quicker.
Chairman Shahid asked if there was a process where after the jury trial was requested, there
was a pre-trial conference. Ms. Downs said there had been in the past, and they would be
bringing it back in the new year. Chairman Shahid asked what the problem was that caused it to
not work. Ms. Downs said they weren’t disposing of cases in the pre-trial. Chairman Shahid
asked how many cases would be reasonable to set a pre-trial conference. Judge Morrison said
about 15 cases would be reasonable. They didn’t want to overstack and then not be able to do
the pre-trial. Councilmember Seekings asked if they could continue to report back to the
Committee. They could have quarterly updates. If they had updates, they would be much better
off when it came to the budgeting process, because they would know the Municipal Court’s
needs in advance rather than trying to catch up.
Chief Reynolds stated that their whole goal was to save lives. They needed to get a good return
on their investments in court. They could all do better and he thought this would have a
positive effect. They had to think about the cost of officers, opportunities lost by not being on
the street, their hourly wages, and their continuing to go to cases multiple times. This was a big
step in the right direction. They needed to start doing things differently. The way it had been
operating was not very efficient and they weren’t getting the outcomes needed to keep their
community safe.
An ordinance to amend Chapter 2, Section 56, to expand the responsibilities of the Public
Safety Committee to include review of judicial candidates nominated by the Mayor
Ms. Borden stated that they had a request to expand the responsibilities of the committee to include
having a quarterly report from the Clerk of Court’s office and bringing nominations for judicial
candidates before the Committee for discussion. Mayor Tecklenburg said that right now, they had an
opening. They would receive letters, and they referred applicants to sign up online. There were about 10
or 12 people that would be interested. He asked if they wanted to look at all the people who had
applied. Councilmember Seekings said they could bring 3-5 to the Committee. It would be good to run
the Mayor’s top choices by the Committee. Chairman Shahid said they could be the sounding board to
help the Mayor. Councilmember Seekings said it didn’t need to be a specific number that the Mayor
would bring for review.
The Committee discussed what the wording of the ordinance needed to be changed to. Chairman
Shahid said that they would be vetting the candidates and telling him which ones were qualified and
then the Mayor would make the final nomination. Mayor Tecklenburg asked if it would be appropriate
to have the candidates coming to the meeting for an interview of some sort. Chairman Shahid said that
the wording gave them discretion on what they could do. They could invite them or they could read the
resume.
On the motion of Councilmember Wagner, seconded by Councilmember Lewis, the Committee voted
unanimously to defer the above item to the next meeting.
Having no further business, the Committee adjourned at 5:09 p.m.
Bethany Whitaker
Council Secretary