CITY-COUNTY CARJACKING AND RECKLESS DRIVING TASK FORCE - ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENFORCEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · May 9, 2019
Minutes
200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
53202
Meeting Minutes
CITY-COUNTY CARJACKING AND RECKLESS DRIVING TASK
FORCE - ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENFORCEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE
Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:00 PM Room 301-B, City Hall
1. Call to Order at 2:08 PM
Present 7 - Himle, White, Decker, Brunson, Hammond, Todd and Hughes
2. Introductions of members.
Also present
Tea Norfolk - LRB
Present 5 - Himle, Brunson, Hammond, Todd and Hughes
Excused 2 - White and Decker
3. Discussion relative to the objective of the Subcommittee.
4. Brainstorming.
Chair Hammond said that accountability and enforcement subcommittee has two
areas to focus on : reckless driving and the criminal aspect of it.
Ald. Murphy thanked Ms. Hammond for taking the lead on this area. He said that as
we look at the current policies as it relates to accountability and enforcement and
determining if it needs to have any changes on certain areas that need improvement.
He shared an article relative to the DPW City Employee killed, where the individual who
killed the City Employee, Tyron Clayborn who pleaded guilty to the Hit-and-run death
was knowingly driving with a suspended license, causing the employees death.
Clayborn faces 18 years in prison. According to the complaint, Clayborn has never
had a valid drivers license. He has had 14 prior convictions prior to this fatal accident.
Clearly this reflects no accountability. Murphy continues by saying how is this guy,
having 14 convictions still driving and now murdered someone? How is the system not
working?
Murphy asks the legislative reference bureau staff to search for facts as to what is
currently happening with our criminal court system as it relates to people who have
been found guilty of these issues, what is the penalty and are they serving any
penalties and why if they are not, is not having an impact in changing behavior.
There was a committee under the Mayor’s office that was looking at the criminal court
system and doing a flow chart of mapping (showing what happens to an individual going
through the court system) trying to figure out what happens to a young offender. He
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asked Health Department Representative for them to share their findings.
Chair Hammond reckless driving, someone driving without a drivers license, driving
crazy and the current status within the youth is fleeing (high speed chases) law
enforcement. Article about “teen fleeing police causes crash, majority of juvenile
cases I review there is almost always
Nichole said that drivers license recovery program has been working on these issues
for a long time, found that OWS (operated while suspended) is civil so no matter how
many citations they receive, it was not a deterrent. Young people lose their licenses
for other non-traffic violations so they’re not going to be motivated to change their
reckless behavior by receiving more citations.
Ald. Murphy said that citations are one thing other than penalties in terms of what are
the mechanisms to hold somebody accountable; as municipal court will state 75% of
the issued citations are no shows. In many respects, he can see the frustration of
MPD when they write citations and they almost can see the person taking off. What
mechanisms in the criminal court system would change behavior? What the best
practices, nationally. Based on a conversation with Judge Mosley who said that 30,000
– 40,000 people in Milwaukee are driving with a suspended or revoked driver’s license.
Chief Hughes said that initially we are talking about people losing something that they
never had so to try to put accountability on someone that never had the responsibility
of going through the process of owning a license is probably futile. You debate about
putting kids in jail at such young age because that would just promotes the continue
process of doing that. While talking in regards to truancy, we’ve talked about keeping
parents accountable, but parents are not doing the action they are simple the authority
in the child’s life.
Nichole said that one of the goals of MPS drive is to get young people into an
opportunity they did not have before. All quantitative and qualitative data collected
through this program shows that this was a great opportunity to get a license.
Ald. Murphy said that this council in the past has allocated tax dollars to be put
towards MPS for the purpose of bringing back driver education curriculum.
Ald. Murphy asked if there are any other strategies that can be effective in changing
the behavior as it relates to the criminal court system.
Ald. Murphy said that this task force agrees to sponsor a program with the Fire and
Police Commission, the heroic kids and at the same we are going to hear from victims
who have lost family members and hearing what they have to say also. Our focused
should be on youth and the older crowds that are also breaking the law repeatedly.
What is the municipal court role play in this issue?
The municipal court has a minimal role in this issue; monetary court. If you have a
citation there may be an in lieu-of- citation option, like community service, but if
defendant is noncompliant muni court sends it to the collection agency. Muni court
does not have the enforcement ability as criminal court do said Ms. Himle.
Ms. Hammond said that at one point in time, a revoked license statue meant
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something, but now it seems to not have enough weight to change behaviors. The
driver license recovery program has done a lot of work with helping individuals become
eligible to obtain a license, as well as MPS Drive.
MPD through Juvenile Milwaukee Collaborative Offender Re-entered Program
(JMCORP) and DA’s can identify who the drivers (and high value targets) are. These
are been target to use these resources. Ms. Hammond said that MPD has done a
fantastic over the last 5-6 years.
Ald. Murphy asked if there have been any strategies, evaluated by its effectiveness on
the kids. Ms. Hammond said that a lot of these kids once they reach adult court have
said that a mentorship program by their own peers would have been effective resource.
Asst. Chief Brunson said that motor vehicle thefts and carjacking have historically
decreased due to a combination of factors that has helped MPD proactively reaches
out to the key suspects.
Ald. Murphy asked are the carjacking prosecuted as carjacking under state statue or
is it prosecuted under a different statue as it relates to armed robbery.
Asst. Chief Brunson said that carjacking is a subset of armed robbery, but resently
MPD started tracking it differently, internally.
Ms. Himle said that Cook Co. is using probation restorative justice circles. she will
share with the group.
Ald. Murphy asked ADA, MPD, Co Sheriff and Muni Court to provide to the group a list
of existing programs that are being currently in used that is being effective.
David Gelting - F&PC
offered a suggestion of using the sanction of booting a car as a deterrant for youth. as
opposed to moving citations.
5. Task Assignments.
red light cameras for next meeting.
6. Set next Meeting.
7. Meeting adjourned at 3:15 PM
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Meeting Agenda
CITY-COUNTY CARJACKING AND RECKLESS DRIVING TASK
FORCE - ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENFORCEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE
Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:00 PM Room 301-B, City Hall
1. Call to Order.
2. Introductions of members.
3. Discussion relative to the objective of the Subcommittee.
4. Brainstorming.
5. Task Assignments.
6. Set next Meeting.
7. Adjournment.
In the event that Common Council members who are not members of this committee attend this meeting, this
meeting may also simultaneously constitute a meeting of the Common Council or any of the following
committees: Community and Economic Development, Finance and Personnel, Judiciary and Legislation,
Licenses, Public Safety and Health, Public Works, Zoning, Neighborhoods & Development, and/or Steering
and Rules. Whether a simultaneous meeting is occurring depends on whether the presence of one or more of
the Common Council member results in a quorum of the Common Council or any of the above committees,
and, if there is a quorum of another committee, whether any agenda items listed above involve matters within
that committee’s realm of authority. In the event that a simultaneous meeting is occurring, no action other than
information gathering will be taken at the simultaneous meeting.
Upon reasonable notice, efforts will be made to accommodate the needs of persons with disabilities through
sign language interpreters or auxiliary aids. For additional information or to request this service, contact the
City Clerk's Office ADA Coordinator at 286-2998, (FAX)286-3456, (TDD)286-2025 or by writing to the
Coordinator at Room 205, City Hall, 200 E. Wells Street, Milwaukee, WI 53202.
Limited parking for persons attending meetings in City Hall is available at reduced rates (5 hour limit) at the
Milwaukee Center on the southwest corner of East Kilbourn and North Water Street. Parking tickets must be
validated in the first floor Information Booth in City Hall.
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Persons engaged in lobbying as defined in s. 305-43-4 of the Milwaukee Code of Ordinances are required to
register with the City Clerk's Office License Division. Registered lobbyists appearing before a Common
Council committee are required to identify themselves as such. More information is available at
http://city.milwaukee.gov/Lobbying.
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