HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · January 14, 2014
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City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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ANN PIEPER EISENBROWN, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Brad
Hoeschen, Matt Jarosz, Anna-Marie Opgenorth, and Blair
Williams
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
HPC Planners: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722,
chatal@milwaukee.gov; Paul Jakubovich, 286-5712,
pjakub@milwaukee.gov
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:00 PM Room 301-B, Third Floor, City Hall
Meeting convened at 3:01 p.m.
Present: 6 - Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen,
Clendenen-Acosta
Excused: 1 - Jarosz
1. Roll Call.
2. Approval of the Previous Minutes of December 30, 2013.
Mr. Hoeschen moved approval, seconded by Ms. Opgenorth, of the minutes of
December 30, 2013. There were no objections.
3. 131201 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a
new 4-car garage at 3220 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Blvd.
Historic District for Veronica Bell.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Jakubovich gave an overview on the proposal to rebuild a four car garage on the
same foundation of the previous garage at 3220 N. Sherman Blvd. The previous
garage was demolished due to its deteriorated condition. The main property on the
lot is a 1951 four flat property and one of the newer buildings in the historic district. It
is a brick building with a hip roof and maintains some revival style features. The walls
of the new garage, which seem to be 8 feet in height, have already been built without
a permit and certificate of appropriateness. The wall blocks are 10 inch blocks.
There are four bays of glass windows that have been installed on the south elevation
of the new garage. The old garage was a concrete block structure, had a very low
pitch hip roof with no overhang, had four individual one car doors, and was built a
year or two later after construction of the main property. There are two design
options. The desire of the owner is to approve the first design option that would
simply duplicate the original garage with simple panel doors, have bare block on the
side walls, have a lower roof pitch, and have no overhang. The walls are proposed to
be EIFS, an exterior insulation and finish system with board trim, which has not been
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approved in the past.
On behalf of staff, Mr. Jakubovich recommended approval of a second design
suggested by staff. The second design would not be a simple replication of the
original garage but rather have some modifications. In this design, the garage would
have upper acting doors made to resemble swinging or sliding doors, a steeper roof
pitch and gable typical with hip roof garages that often accompany 20th Century
homes, different wall finish such as cement board siding applied over the side walls,
an overhang, and taller side walls. The walls should be nine feet in height. If EIFS is
approved by the Commission, it should be noted to be a one time approval and not a
general approval for use elsewhere.
Mr. Jakubovich added that secondary buildings that have been removed have
oftentimes been built in a different fashion to be better companion structures for the
main structure and the district. The second design would adhere with the guidelines
in the historic districts, with commission precedence, with materials in the
guidebooks, and with other similar structures built in the area.
Mr. Hoeschen said that he was concerned that the second design would create a
garage that was not from the 1950s era. He asked staff the reasoning for the second
design?
Mr. Jakubovich replied that the original garage appeared to be one of a kind, was not
seen elsewhere, and was not typical of construction in the 1950s. Rebuilds of
companion structures oftentimes were redesigned to look better with the main
structures due to being built poorly originally. The second design was a 1950 era
design and something universal. The only difference was that the side walls would
be a foot taller to give the garage a better proportion.
Mr. Williams said that the second design seemed dissonant to the existing
architecture on the parcel. The first design of a lower pitch roof with an overhang
would make the new garage and house more consistent with each other.
Mr. Jakubovich said that there has never been a requirement in the past that the roof
pitches of garages and houses match each other. There are many examples where
either the roof of the garage or house was steeper than the other.
Ms. Clendenen-Acosta said that the roof pitch of the first design worked better
proportionally. The proposal should be altered to have the side wall elevations and
overhang of the second design and a 4’ x 12’ lower pitch roof.
Veronica Bell, property owner, appeared and gave comments. There are only two
glass block window sections, and the previous garage had the same glass block
windows. She wanted the overhead doors with wooden panels and not the new
doors. The garage was being rebuilt exactly to the original with stronger thrusts. She
did not understand what was wrong with the original garage design. The previous
garage did not offend anyone. She liked her original garage design and had owned
the house and garage there for over 15 years. She lives there part of the time and
will live there permanently some time in the future. The reason for the rebuild was
due to the roof collapsing on the garage due to heavy snow. The insurance company
would only pay for an exact duplicate of the original garage. She does not have the
funds to build a differently designed garage as suggested by staff.
Commissioners questioned why the garage was being built before any permits or
certificates of appropriateness were obtained, if the insurance company understood
the historic designation limitations on the garage, if the garage would be eligible for
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state tax credits, how the matter came before staff, if the garage would be repaired or
built exactly to the original if it had no structural problems or was a contributing
structure, what the result of the garage would be if it was rebuilt differently, how did
construction start without approval, and if the cost implications of the altered design
had been determined?
Ms. Bell replied. Discretion of the rebuild was left to her contractor. She thought that
approval wasn’t necessary unless the garage was being changed. She thought that
nothing was being changed regarding the garage. Her insurance company is
probably not aware of the historic designation limitations on the garage. The new
garage probably would not be completed if it was not approved to be rebuilt in the
same design as the original. She was told that the garage could be rebuilt the way
she wanted despite staff recommendations. The garage may not be on the same lot
of the main building that is a part of the historic district.
Mr. Jakubovich responded. Only the main building and not the garage would be
eligible for state tax credits. He had initial contact with the owner regarding the
demolition of the garage and later with the contractor regarding the new garage. The
owner is aware of the historic designation status of the house and garage. The old
garage was a condemnation and a threat to life and safety. It was in bad shape with
unstable walls. Therefore, it was not brought to the Commission for review and was
demolished. The garage probably would have been repaired to its original
construction if a substantial amount of the structure was still there. In this case, the
whole garage was gone. A contributing garage is not required to be built exactly to
its original construction, but the Commission has the discretion to decide.
Joe Bacich, contractor, appeared and gave comments. He had applied to get a
permit for the new garage and had arranged to have a contractor set up the next day.
There was a communication gap and the contractor started the work without being
notified by him that the necessary permit was not yet obtained. When the contractor
was notified, the walls were already three quarters completed. EIFS or stucco finish
was not a good product, and another course would be needed for an overhang. No
estimate has been made on the extra costs regarding the modified design that has
been suggested.
Mr. Hoeschen further commented. The address and entire lot includes both the
house and garage. The garage is part of the historic district. Poor advice was given
referencing that staff recommendations could be ignored. The owner still has to
comply with the requirements of the historic district.
Ald. Bauman said that the new garage is essentially a brand new structure and not a
repair. Therefore, it has to pass muster with the design guidelines and process that a
new garage would have to undergo.
Mr. Williams moved approval, seconded by Mr. Hoeschen, of a Certificate of
Appropriateness to construct a new 4 car garage at 3220 N. Sherman Blvd. based on
design option 1, as described in the staff report, with the conditions to include the
following modifications: the side wall and overhang details of design option 2 and use
of cement fiberboard or wood cladding siding, as an alternative to EIFS or stucco,
exposed no more than 5 inches to the weather. There were no objections.
Mr. Williams added that Ms. Bell and Mr. Bacich should discuss the cost implications
of the project, contact the insurance company regarding the limitations of the project,
and may appeal the decision.
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
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Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 6- Bauman, Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Excused: 1- Jarosz
4. 131318 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
construction of a new 8' X14' shed in the rear yard at 1105 N. Waverly
Place, in the James S. Peck House, for the Immanuel Presbyterian
Church.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Jakubovich gave an overview on the proposal for a new wood frame shed at the
rear of the James S. Peck House, located at 1105 N. Waverly Place. There has been
substantial restoration work done and investment on the house, which has been
approved at the staff level. Some of the work included replacement of rain gutters
and reconstruction of a porch and its railings. The new shed would be built roughly
within the same location of an old metal garage that was removed in the past, which
the commission granted. The shed would not be visible from the street. It would be
sided and have no windows. It would have a hipped roof, modest overhang, a few
double panel doors, and trim boards with siding. The specifications call for a grain
finish on both siding and trim. Staff recommends that the cement board siding
always be smooth to duplicate the appearance of the original wood clapboards.
Azek® material is being proposed for the trim boards. It is a paintable and high
quality product. It would be a grain finish but can be purchased in smooth finish. The
use of the cement board siding as an option to wood is fine due to not being visible
from the street. Plantings and pathways would be installed around the shed making it
an attractive addition to the rear yard.
On behalf of staff, Mr. Jakubovich recommended approval of the shed with the
condition that that smooth materials be used instead of wood grain or rough materials
for finish.
Mr. Williams moved approval, seconded by Ald. Bauman, of a Certificate of
Appropriateness for the construction of a new 8’ x 14’ shed n the rear yard at 1105 N.
Waverly Place with the condition that the siding and trim be of smooth materials
instead of wood grain or rough materials for finish. Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown and
Clendenen Acosta abstained. There were no objections.
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by ALD. BAUMAN, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 4- Bauman, Opgenorth, Williams, and Hoeschen
No: 0
Excused: 1- Jarosz
Abstain: 2- Pieper Eisenbrown, and Clendenen-Acosta
5. Election of a Vice-Chair.
Ms. Clendenen-Acosta moved nomination, seconded by Mr. Williams, of Mr.
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Hoeschen as Vice-Chair. There were no objections.
Mr. Hoeschen accepted the nomination.
Mr. Williams moved election, seconded by Ms. Opgenorth, of Mr. Hoeschen as
Vice-Chair. There were no objections.
6. Updates and Announcements.
Staff announced that the process for the Cream of the Cream City Awards will be
occuring in the next few months and for commissioners to consider nominations for
the awards.
7. The Following Files Represent Staff Approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
There were no staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness .
Meeting convened at 3:50 p.m.
Chris Lee, Staff Assistant
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200 E. Wells Street
City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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ANN PIEPER EISENBROWN, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Brad
Hoeschen, Matt Jarosz, Anna-Marie Opgenorth, and Blair
Williams
Staff Assistant, Chris Lee, 286-2232, Fax: 286-3456,
clee@milwaukee.gov
HPC Planners: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722, chatal@milwaukee.gov;
Paul Jakubovich, 286-5712, pjakub@milwaukee.gov
Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:00 PM Room 301-B, Third Floor, City Hall
1. Roll Call.
2. Approval of the Previous Minutes of December 30, 2014.
3. 131201 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a new
4-car garage at 3220 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman Blvd. Historic
District for Veronica Bell.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
4. 131318 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
construction of a new 8' X14' shed in the rear yard at 1105 N. Waverly
Place, in the James S. Peck House, for the Immanuel Presbyterian
Church.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
5. Election of a Vice-Chair.
6. Updates and Announcements.
7. The Following Files Represent Staff Approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
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