HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular MeetingMilwaukee, WI · June 9, 2014
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City of Milwaukee Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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ANN PIEPER EISENBROWN, CHAIR
Brad Hoeschen, Vice Chair
Ald. Robert Bauman, Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Matt Jarosz,
Anna-Marie Opgenorth, and Blair Williams
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
HPC Planners: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722,
chatal@milwaukee.gov; Paul Jakubovich, 286-5712,
pjakub@milwaukee.gov
Monday, June 9, 2014 3:00 PM Room 301-B, Third Floor, City Hall
Meeting convened at 3:03 p.m.
Present: 5 - Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, Clendenen-Acosta
Absent: 2 - Bauman, Jarosz
1. Review and approval of the minutes of the May 12th meeting.
Mr. Hoeschen movedl, seconded by Ms. Clendenen-Acosta, for approval of the
minutes of May 12, 2014. There were no objections.
2. 140131 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal
of a rear addition and the construction of a new rear porch and entry at
2425 W. McKinley Avenue, Tiefenthaler House, an
individually-designated building, for the City of Milwaukee.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Jakubovich said that the Tiefenthaler house is now a city-owned property and the
city is investing in the property. The front porch is being replaced by two original
porches as staff approval files and a rear bump out on the first story is being removed
and replaced with back porch and four-panel door. The foundation condition below
the rear addition is bad and the back porch will resemble the front porches. Staff
has not found anything historical about the rear addition. Ms. Hatala reviewed fire
maps which showed that the one story addition seems original to the house but staff
has not been able to see the inside of the rear addition and its use. Mr. Jakubovich
said that staff recommends approval of the new porch on the rear and removal of the
rear addition. Mr. Hoeschen inquired as to what would happen to the grading if the
rear addition weretaken off and if a possible retaining wall would be constructed? Mr.
Jakubovich said that a retaining wall is part of property. The new porch would be
approved by staff as a staff approval file. Removal of the existing porch needs to
occur first before seeing what the new porch will be like.
A motion was made by Brad Hoeschen, seconded by Anna-Marie Opgenorth,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
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Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
3. 140238 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of replacement windows at 608 N. Broadway in the East
Side Commercial Historic District for Donald Arenson.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Jakubovich said that this building is part of a grouping of Italian-style commercial
buildings. The proposal is to replace four original wood windows on the second and
third floors to match installation of vinyl windows on fourth floor; no Certificate of
Approval was obtained for the fourth floor windows. The second floor windows were
replaced with wood windows. Staff recommends approval for the second floor
window replacement but does not recommend approval of the third floor window
replacements. Donald Arenson, the property owner, appeared. He lives at 606 N.
Broadway and has no plans to replace the fourth floor windows. He thinks current
proposal is a good compromise. Wood windows will cost $4,400 each window and
there are four windows. Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown asked if there is any possibility of tax
credits and Mr. Jakubovich said that is something that would need to be investigated.
If the window work was done as part of a larger project it may be eligible for a 40%
credit. Mr. Hoeschen said that his concern is not as much with the material but with
the shape; one over one is common and beautiful rather than opening made into
three parts. Mr. Arenson said that one over one windows would need to be custom
windows and that is expensive; he has found it difficult to find contractors that have
affordable one over one windows for this type of window. He was not interested in
trying to obtain a facade grant for this work. Ms. Clendenen Acosta is concerned with
the precedent this would set if vinyl windows were approved on the third floor. Mr.
Hoeschen said that this building has one face, its front facade, and although it is not a
residential building, it does look residential with the current three part windows. The
applicant could go through the facade grant program if funding of the windows is a
concern.
Mary Yungers, 608 N. Broadway, appeared and said that she supports the proposal
and applicant and she feels the staff recommendation is cost- prohibitive and
unattainable.
Mr. Williams said that the applicant can look at different mechanics to open double
hung windows rather than slide up like hoppers and Commission staff can help the
applicant look for affordable contractors. Mr. Hoeschen moved, seconded by Ms.
Clendenen-Acosta, for approval of 2nd story window replacements with wood double
hung windows and denial of third floor window vinyl replacements. There were no
objections.
A motion was made by Brad Hoeschen, seconded by Marion
Clendenen-Acosta, that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion
PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
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4. 140250 Resolution related to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new
two-car frame garage at 2023 N. 2nd Street in the Brewers Hill Historic
district for Tim Baldwin and Susan Smieja.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Mr. Jakubovich said that the proposal is for a new two-car frame garage in the
northwest corner of the rear yard where there is currently a parking slab. The
applicant has not yet settled on a siding, but it should be smooth wood board with
Queen Ann style windows. Staff recommendation is for approval. Mr. Hoeschen
said that the garage is attractive, but he had a question about a second floor for a
garage and whether a stair is within the footprint of the garage and whether there is
anything in Brewers Hill that prohibits a second story in a garage. Timothy Baldwin,
the owner, appeared and said that the intent for the second floor is for storage. Mr.
Jakubovich said that one option to have a drop-down stair and there is no prohibition
against a second floor as long as it is not a residential unit.
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Anna-Marie Opgenorth,
that this Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following
vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
5. 130422 Communication relating to the establishment of an historic plaquing
program.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
Dustin Weis and Dan Mrotek from the City Clerk's Public Information Division
presented a PowerPoint on this item with different shape, font and material options
for a plaquing program. Bigger plaques means increasing costs and round logos
can go down as far as 7.5 inches in diameter. For examples of weathering, from the
Pabst Theater, bronze rectangular plaques can age and turn green while aluminum
and texture will turn dull while the color will not change much. They may have to use
color with perhaps a dark color background. For colors, enamel paints are used and
bronze materials are suited to brown or black paint. Aluminum can have more color
and is cheaper, by 10%, while bronze is $650-$700 in 17" x 19" size. In summary, a
pentagon shape can accommodate a full logo and a round style can be scaled down.
Aluminum is cheaper and more compatible with colors while text could be either serif
vs. sans serifs. Colors may be bronze or any other color. Mr. Williams likes the
round shape and the name of property and description in serif, as well as blue and
the logo "Historic Property" in a different font by itself. Mr. Hoeschen likes the first
round logo used as an example and the locally designated border of the second
example. Ms. Opgenorth likes the rectangular plaque although the round shape is
also nice. Mr. Mroteck actually preferred one sample that was rejected earlier by the
commission and was unique from other plaques. Mr. Jakubovich said that two
mounting screws in mortar joints on the left and right centered sides of the round
plaque is something to consider. A round shape would only need two mounting
screws and he prefers aluminum. Ms. Hatala noted that the dialogue on listservs
about plaques; she will collate some information to forward to Commissioners and
also has seen discussion relating to more problems with aluminum. Ms.
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Clendenen-Acosta likes the round option because it seems balanced and fits right
and she prefers a script style as it seems elegant, but she can either way, while she
prefer blue. Ms. Pieper Eisenbrown prefers the round shape. Mr. Hoeschen said
that Public Information Division should come back with costs for a bronze plaque with
no paint and bronze with paint.
The Commissioners moved for a round shape, the font from the first round sample
with Garamond font only. Ms. Opgenorth moved for bronze material, seconded by
Mr. Williams, with local designation to be referenced at the bottom. For the next
meeting, information will be provided on the costs of a bronze plaque, bronze with
brown paint, and aluminum with blue paint.
6. Updates and Announcements.
Mr. Jakubovich said that the -Downer House scaffolding is up, although there is no
coa for work on the house. The plans are for new roof on the house to match the
original, gutters, clean the brick, and rebuild the missing porch, He assumes that
plans will submitted for this work soon, which will be brought before the full
Commission for review due to substantial renovation of an important house.
Ms. Hatala said that feedback from the Cream of Cream City Awards was very
positive. It is anticipated that Best Place will be the site next year as well.
7. The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
a. 140240 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of a new monument sign at 2703 N. Sherman Blvd. in the
North Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Lumin Schools.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
b. 140244 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of new roofing and gutters at 2015 N. Palmer Street in the
Brewers Hill Historic District for Philip C. Warren and Emily H.
Schlemowitz.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
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Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
c. 140246 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of a new garage door at 1849 N. 1st Street in the Brewers
Hill Historic District for Timothy Hoeft.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
d. 140247 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of new roof, gutters and cleaning of brick chimneys at 2735
W. State Street in the Concordia Historic District for Jason Parker.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
e. 140248 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of new Portland cement stucco on dormers at 2768 N.
Sherman Blvd. in the North Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Travis
Brown.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
f. 140251 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of individual letter signage at 1017 E. Brady Street in the
East Brady Street Historic District for Teerasak Boonwatana.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
g. 140255 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of HVAC equipment and related venting at 915 W. Juneau
Avenue in the Pabst Brewery Historic District for James C. Haertel.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
h. 140256 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change
out of a rear door at 2638 N. Downer in the North Downer Avenue
Historic District for Downer Delaware LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
i. 140267 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of new central air conditioning and furnace venting at 4462
N. 26th Street in the Garden Homes Historic District for John A. Barton
Sr.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
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j. 140268 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of a new central air conditioning unit at 3417 N. Sherman
Blvd. in the Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Stewart Brokerage.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
k. 140269 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of sidewall venting for a new furnace at 3238 N. Sherman
Blvd. in the Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Georgia M. Hill.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
L. 140360 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of a new roof at 719 E. Brady Street in the East Brady
Street Historic District for Maria Luisa Roche.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
m. 140361 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of rooftop solar collectors at 2723 E. Bradford Avenue in
the North Point North Historic District for Jason and Meagan Schultz.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
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Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
n. 140366 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the
installation of venting for a new furnace at 3417 N. Sherman Blvd. in
the Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Stewart Brokerage.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
A motion was made by Blair Williams, seconded by Brad Hoeschen, that this
Resolution be ADOPTED. This motion PREVAILED by the following vote:
Aye: 5- Pieper Eisenbrown, Opgenorth, Williams, Hoeschen, and
Clendenen-Acosta
No: 0
Absent: 2- Bauman, and Jarosz
Meeting adjourned at 4:36 p.m.
Chris Lee, Staff Assistant
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Meeting Agenda
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
ANN PIEPER EISENBROWN, CHAIR
Ald. Robert Bauman, Marion Clendenen-Acosta, Brad
Hoeschen, Matt Jarosz, Anna-Marie Opgenorth, and Blair
Williams
Staff Assistant, Linda Elmer, 286-2231, Fax: 286-3456,
lelmer@milwaukee.gov
HPC Planners: Carlen Hatala, 286-5722, chatal@milwaukee.gov;
Paul Jakubovich, 286-5712, pjakub@milwaukee.gov
Monday, June 9, 2014 3:00 PM Room 301-B, Third Floor, City Hall
1. Review and approval of the minutes of the May 12th meeting.
2. 140131 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of
a rear addition and the construction of a new rear porch and entry at
2425 W. McKinley Avenue, Tiefenthaler House, an
individually-designated building, for the City of Milwaukee.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
3. 140238 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of replacement windows at 608 N. Broadway in the East Side
Commercial Historic District for Donald Arenson.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
4. 140250 Resolution related to a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new two -car
frame garage at 2023 N. 2nd Street in the Brewers Hill Historic district
for Tim Baldwin and Susan Smieja.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
5. 130422 Communication relating to the establishment of an historic plaquing
program.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
6. Updates and Announcements.
7. The following files represent staff approved Certificates of Appropriateness:
a. 140240 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of a new monument sign at 2703 N. Sherman Blvd. in the North
Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Lumin Schools.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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b. 140244 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of new roofing and gutters at 2015 N. Palmer Street in the Brewers Hill
Historic District for Philip C. Warren and Emily H. Schlemowitz.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
c. 140246 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of a new garage door at 1849 N. 1st Street in the Brewers Hill Historic
District for Timothy Hoeft.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
d. 140247 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of new roof, gutters and cleaning of brick chimneys at 2735 W. State
Street in the Concordia Historic District for Jason Parker.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
e. 140248 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of new Portland cement stucco on dormers at 2768 N. Sherman Blvd. in
the North Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Travis Brown.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
f. 140251 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of individual letter signage at 1017 E. Brady Street in the East Brady
Street Historic District for Teerasak Boonwatana.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
g. 140255 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of HVAC equipment and related venting at 915 W. Juneau Avenue in the
Pabst Brewery Historic District for James C. Haertel.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
h. 140256 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change out
of a rear door at 2638 N. Downer in the North Downer Avenue Historic
District for Downer Delaware LLC.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
i. 140267 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of new central air conditioning and furnace venting at 4462 N. 26th
Street in the Garden Homes Historic District for John A. Barton Sr.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
j. 140268 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of a new central air conditioning unit at 3417 N. Sherman Blvd. in the
Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Stewart Brokerage.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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k. 140269 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of sidewall venting for a new furnace at 3238 N. Sherman Blvd. in the
Sherman Blvd. Historic District for Georgia M. Hill.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
L. 140360 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of a new roof at 719 E. Brady Street in the East Brady Street Historic
District for Maria Luisa Roche.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
m. 140361 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of rooftop solar collectors at 2723 E. Bradford Avenue in the North Point
North Historic District for Jason and Meagan Schultz.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
n. 140366 Resolution relating to a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation
of venting for a new furnace at 3417 N. Sherman Blvd. in the Sherman
Blvd. Historic District for Stewart Brokerage.
Sponsors: THE CHAIR
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