Aldermen, Board of
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · October 11, 2011
Minutes
A regular meeting of the Board of Aldermen was held Tuesday, October 11, 2011, at 7:30 p.m. in the
Aldermanic Chamber.
President Brian S. McCarthy presided; Deputy City Clerk Patricia Piecuch recorded.
Prayer was offered by Deputy City Clerk Patricia Piecuch; Alderman Cookson led in the Pledge to the Flag.
The roll call was taken with 14 members of the Board of Aldermen present.
Her Honor Mayor Donnalee Lozeau and Corporation Counsel James M. McNamee were also in attendance.
President McCarthy
Does the Mayor wish to address the board?
REMARKS BY THE MAYOR
Thank you, Mr. President, yes I do. This evening on your desks I put a copy of the front page of this past
Thursday’s Union Leader. I did so because I hope, like me, all of you will be concerned about the way that
headline portrays our city. I want to make sure that everybody understands, I guess I’ll repeat the headline
although I’m loathe to do that. The headline talks about Nashua’s parking garages unsafe and unused. Our
parking garages, just so that you are all clear, are very safe. As a matter of fact, I looked into what kind of
incidences that we’ve had in there and I have spoken with the Chief of Police about things over the years
with the parking garage and as of late, I said to him, now would you call our parking garages safe? And he
said I would encourage my daughter to park there. Well, that’s good enough for me. I’d encourage mine to
park there as well and other people that use our downtown.
In addition, they’re very well used. We have over 90% occupancy rate at Elm Street and over 70%
occupancy rate at High Street. As a matter of fact, this past year, our income from those two parking
garages was over $200,000. So, I would say that they are pretty well used. As many of you know, back in
2005 a report was done that talked about the parking garages and the money that the city needed to invest
in them in order to make them more structurally sound, fix different problems. I took that report to heart and
in 2009 we moved the responsibility for the parking garages over to the Transportation Department. I know
all of you recall that, many of you were here. Since we’ve done that, they have an assigned person to each
garage; those assigned individuals are responsible for the cleanliness, keeping an eye on the safety, all of
those sorts of things that we want happening in our parking garage.
With regard to the report from 2005, this group bonded money for our city buildings. That included work on
our parking garages. We’ve spent over $740,000 on our parking garages, again actually a good
investment. The 2005 report anticipated that we’d be spending close to $1.3 million but because of the
times we are in we actually got a really great price, and we’ve had some real work done there. It’s making a
difference. Those lights are on round the clock, PSNH changed them so all night long the lights are on.
They are at full power. I think some of you might remember during some budget talks when we saw a rise
in the cost of electricity in the parking garages, it turned out that when the lights were changed and I believe
it was 2008, they were working off of a bill to determine what our increase might be and what our wattage
might be when they changed them to more efficient lights, and we were surprised to see that price go up,
and it went up because prior only 50% of the lights had been on.
So, we’ve done some really great things in our parking garages. I have something out right now getting
quotes to look at having a system in the garage that will allow for a pay per space so that we can take out
the parking meters. Many of you know that first floor is all meters and the three floors above it are all leased
spaces. Everything is clearly marked so I’m just a little concerned about what that headline meant, what
some of the concerns that have been raised are, and I just wanted to assure you that our garages are safe,
well used, and we would encourage people to continue to use them.
The next thing I would speak to this evening is my veto message of R-11-111. I went back and forth on that
reading the legislation, trying to determine if I should let it go without my signature or if I should veto it. I
think my message is pretty clear that really what I’m most concerned about is the impression or the
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perception towards our H.R. Department and the work that they do and their ability to do those background
checks.
I would also take a moment to remind everybody that if you really think about it, those background checks
are already being done by an independent contractor, so to speak, not a contractor but an independent
source is a better way to say that. When the criminal background check goes out, H.R. has no influence on
that. Neither does this Board or anybody else. The State Police respond to that and they give you the
information, it is what it is. It’s the same with any of the other checks that we do; credit checks, school
checks, all that stuff is reported on and responded to by somebody independent from this Board, this Mayor,
the H.R. Department or anybody else. And it concerns me, as I said, I think the last line in my veto
message says it best, “Our community will not be well served by history noting and documenting concerns
that cast a shadow on the honorable actions of those elected or hired to serve our city.”
I would move next, Mr. President, to discussion about the legislation tonight under new business for
Pennichuck relating to Parcel F. Parcel F being the parcel off of Concord Street that while, yes, it has had a
significant amount of public attention as of late, many of you know that we have been looking at this and
trying to resolve this component for more than a year. None of us were happy finding out that Parcel F had
a contract on it for sale. As I remember saying to this group, we had two parcels of land and severance pay
that none of us were going to be happy about when we purchased Pennichuck.
I am pleased that Pennichuck and the private developer are willing to extend the deadline for their closing.
Their contract allows them to close next Friday, October 21st. We have agreed to a date of February 20th,
on or before. I am hopeful that we will be able to find a resolution to this, but I do not want to leave anybody
with the impression that I can promise that we’ll do that. We could be here in February under the same
circumstances. We could be here in December under the same circumstances, but I think it is really our
good fortune that we have four months to explore some potential solutions to this that might be different
than what we’ve seen to date, and I would thank them for that. You’re going to be asked tonight to take
action on that tonight so that we can make sure that that is in place before their closing.
Now, I’d like to go to two happy notes. Well, I guess the Pennichuck Parcel F was rather a happy note too.
Tonight, behind City Hall I asked our folks from Freightliner and AVSG to bring our new CNG packer for all
of you to take a look at. They were out on the streets today; four of them out on the streets today, the fifth
one should be delivered later this week. They were fueled up at our CNG station. We have one of the
pumps working, the rest will be in before the ribbon cutting next week, and I think the trucks, not only are
they cost effective, but they’re a little bit of a different style than we’ve had before. There is a new color and
there is also a new logo on the side that says “The Works”, which I think is really a nice way to brand and
take notice of those employees out there doing the work of the city on infrastructure and some of those
items that are closest to the people that we serve here in this Chamber. So, I hope you all had a chance to
take a look at it, and I look forward to that ribbon cutting at the gas station next Thursday, October 20th at
3:00 o’clock.
The last good news that I would call to your attention that I don’t think has been out in the press yet and
hopefully I’m not jumping the gun on the Silver Knights, I don’t think so, but they were happy to report that
they have gotten some good news from the Future’s Collegiate Baseball League. They were named, our
Silver Knights, were named “The Organization of the Year” by the League. Based on that, they are also
awarded the “Inaugural All Star Games” for next season. They’ve also moved up to six teams now in their
league and they have two more potentials for this season. That’s a really big deal to us. That will also
move them from twenty-two games to twenty-seven games so I’m sure we’ll be talking about that again.
But what a great baseball season we had and what wonderful results we’re having in that league to see the
achievements we’ve had here. For all of you who have supported that I think we did good this time. As
always, Mr. President, I thank the Board for your kind attention this evening. Thank you.
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RESPONSE TO REMARKS OF THE MAYOR
Alderman Deane
Mayor any baseball news is good baseball news as long as it doesn’t include the Red Sox.
The article on the parking garages, the title of the article says Nashua Parking Garages Called Ugly and
Unused. They do have some issues, but you stated the $200,000 in revenue, now out of that revenue let’s
look at what the expenses are to operate between the manpower, vehicles, plowing, fuel, the electricity and
all of that, has to be worked out somewhere. I am still of the belief that back a number of years ago when
we had a firm in there, Kinney Corporation, that ran those parking garages, I think our revenue stream was
increased because they were over-selling the reserve spots because they knew the habits of those who
reserved the spots, and they were able to do that. There was always somebody there on site. I just think
that whole process worked somewhat better. I remember their budgets coming in with little or no increases,
and it did employ people locally.
It would be interesting to take another look at that compared to the City operating them out of the
transportation department. Thank you.
Alderman Pressly
Thank you Mr. President. Mayor Lozeau you should know better than anybody in this room the power of the
press and how you never have any idea when you speak to somebody what they intend to do with it. It is
interesting for me that the reporter was just as surprised as I was that this was the lead story in the Union
Leader, but it is, and that is their right to report whatever they see. I thought it may have been a slow news
day, but I see that was the day that Steve Jobs died so there was much more important news than this.
I have heard for years the problems. I was surprised, when this story came out, the number of phone calls I
got. I don’t get that many. I had a phone call from someone that had had his car destroyed a few years ago
and nothing was ever done about it. Some of the leading people in the State have called me and said that
they agree with me that this should be done. We’ve talked about this for the two years I’ve been here and
even before that we needed to get a better system in the garage. We’ve talked about it at committee levels,
we’ve talked about getting reports, and I think the reports that I’ve heard from many people they are unused.
I think women in particular don’t feel safe parking alone in the garage.
I think we should avoid a sense pf paranoia because a reporter reports something that could be interpreted
as a critique of the City. I think the garages can certainly be improved upon and I would hope we will try to
do that. They could be creatively attractive so that we make it a destination. In the parking plan that came
forth from the Services Advisory Committee this year they spoke quite a bit about the importance of getting
cars into the parking garage, and that was the whole goal. The more cars you get in the parking garage the
less traffic there will be on the Main Street in particular.
By sponsoring something to try to improve one of our resources…the other thought I have had is if you look
at all of the projects; we had a wonderful program the other night about all of the exciting things they are
looking at to do on Main Street, making big big changes, well the parking garages are not going to change.
We’re not going to move them, we’re not going to add extra floors to them, so they are one thing that we
can work on now and do some exciting work on and improve them, make them the best spot in town so that
people want to, before the Broad Street Parkway goes in, they are familiar with our garages, they are
comfortable, they go there first time to park.
I apologize if the Mayor has been offended by this. As you know I’m not the one who makes this decision,
and I do support the freedom of the press. Thank you.
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RECOGNITION PERIOD – None
READING MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CLEMONS THAT THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
MEETINGS OF SEPTEMBER 13, SEPTEMBER 21, AND SEPTEMBER 27, 2011 BE ACCEPTED,
PLACED ON FILE, AND THE READINGS SUSPENDED
MOTION CARRIED
COMMUNICATIONS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN VITALE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS BE READ BY TITLE ONLY
MOTION CARRIED
From: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Re: Veto of Resolution 11-111
MOTION BY ALDERMAN CRAFFEY TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW FOR
THE INTRODUCTION OF TWO COMMUNICATIONS DELIVERED WITH THE PACKETS BUT NOT
INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA
MOTION CARRIED
From: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Re: Millyard Chimney – Status Update
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Pressly
I would just like to say that I think many of you realize how important so many of us have felt that the
millyard chimney is to the whole Broad Street Parkway, and I appreciate the Mayor’s information and I hope
that she will stay the course to find some way to save what we have, and if it cannot be saved to get some
sort of a reproduction. We’ve talked about this extensively. It has been an item I think brought up every
time we’ve had the Broad Street Parkway. I think it is understood to be the most visible symbol of our
millyard and the thing you can see from a distance. I hope, and I’m sure the Mayor intends to go to great
lengths to see that it is saved. Thank you.
President McCarthy
Is there any further discussion of the motion?
MOTION CARRIED
From: James McNamee, Corporation Counsel
Re: Removal of Debris from Pennichuck Property
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION CARRIED
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PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT RELATIVE TO ITEMS EXPECTED TO BE ACTED
UPON THIS EVENING
Robert Sullivan, 12 Stonybrook Road
I would like to speak to two resolutions, one being R-11-111 and one being the Pennichuck. Pertaining to
R-11-111, I happen to be in this business; I’m a consultant to companies pertaining to talent acquisition
management and screening. What is important in this business are two things; 1) what screening checks
are you performing against the particular job function and 2) what is the vetting or the adjudication
associated with the result of a talent acquisition management and screening. I did read Mayor Lozeau’s
letter, and it appears that there are state and federal criminal checks being performed, there is an education
verification being performed, there is an employment verification being performed, and there is a credit
report being performed. I would recommend some other checks, particularly for these positions; one is a
sex offender registry check for obvious reasons, the next one is a national criminal database check, which
tends to take a look at all crime related within the United States.
When you do a state or county criminal check on a particular individual those criminal checks are usually
put against an address history. Since Mr. Cookson is the person that is the one who put this together, I’m
going to use him as an example. Let’s assume that Mr. Cookson resides in New England all of his life and
they do a criminal background check and he has resided in the State of New Hampshire, they will do a
state criminal check there, and he has also resided in Connecticut, they would do some county criminal
checks there. What if Mr. Cookson went to Florida and committed a felony; that would not show up on the
criminal check so national criminal database check is very important for this type of position.
The other one is a drug test. You should do a 9 panel drug test, preferably a hair test that will go back
believe it or not 5 weeks for drug usage. I think those are the two important things. There is nothing wrong
with the Human Resource Department in performing these checks, but what is important is those
concerned that understand the vetting or the adjudication process. What do I mean by that? And this may
be in place, but you need to put it in place for these particular positions. What happens if a person has a
misdemeanor? Do you hire that person? Should be automatic. What if a person lied on their employment
history? Do you want to hire someone that lies? That should be a pass/fail on that. I will give you one
more; education, an individual says oh I received a Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering and you find
out it is only a Bachelors Degree, do you want to hire that individual? Let’s say someone said hey I
graduated from Nashua High and then you look into it and there is no graduation, do you want to hire that
person?
The vetting is what is important here. I think that sometimes you read these things and they can be
amusing. I don’t know what President said this. I think it was either President Clinton or President Reagan,
trust but verify. I think it is very important and if that there is nothing wrong with anyone questioning the
talent acquisition management and screening policies of this City, and that at least the
Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee, I think that is the name of the committee, should involve
themselves in ensuring that these things are done.
Now I would like to talk about R-11-162, which is authorizing the Mayor to give prior written consent as
required by the Pennichuck Merger Agreement to allow Pennichuck Corporation and the Southwood
Corporation to extend the closing date of the Parcel F Agreement. Hey anything to prevent Parcel F from
being built on is a good thing. I want to talk to the people watching this program tonight. Let’s not lose
sight of what is happening here. Citizen involvement highlighted this issue and put pressure on city
government to take a look at Parcel F. I’ve seen a lot of e-mails going through that are a public record
where many people weren’t aware of the Parcel F. So Mayor you say you may have been working on it for
about a year, but I don’t really think in the detail that that has been required to prevent the Parcel F buffer
from being developed on. I just don’t buy it.
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We had city legal try to put pressure against the Conservation Commission not to send a letter to the New
Hampshire Department of Environmental Services; you are playing with dynamite. Let’s be frank about
this, Mr. Geoff Daly spearheaded a group of citizens, I being one, to really raise this issue so that there
would be no development on Parcel F, in spite of Mr. Daly being censored. That just increased our resolve.
The Conservation Commission stayed firm in their stance on this. I would like to know what is Mr.
Patenaude’s opinion on all of this. Where has he been?
Regarding the article in the Telegraph about we need to keep these meetings secret, I don’t think so. This
is a situation that is very important to not only the citizens of Nashua but to the future ratepayers and
consumers of the water system. They not only reside in Nashua, they reside in Merrimack and other
communities. There should be no more secrecy. There have been a lot of secret meetings that go on
here. Let’s take one for example; how about three years ago when the Right-to-Know Law was violated
and the then sitting Board of Aldermen, many of which are here today, held a secret meeting with the
school system and the union and passed a contract that was unaffordable to the city. Non-meetings and
secret meetings in certain situations are unacceptable. And this situation has come to the forefront of the
citizens of Nashua that at least needs to be documented, minutes in detail. I just don’t buy we need more
secret meetings.
Now look, you have downtown committees made up of residents of this city. They sat here and worked
with the Board of Aldermen to get some concessions and some resolutions through. Why is it that Mr.
Geoff Daly is not part of the negotiations or this committee, whatever you folks do, to overview the
negotiations that are going on? Why is it that you don’t have a couple of citizens for this? Isn’t this more
important than the downtown situation? I certainly think it is. Who is part of these negotiations? Are any of
you folks part of it? Why aren’t you? What are you doing? This is too important. We can’t continue this
way regardless of censorship attempts. So we need some citizen representatives on this committee on the
go forward position of this Pennichuck situation, and we’re just not going to take no for an answer. Thank
you very much.
Jay E. Simkin, 20 Cabot Drive
Good evening Mr. President, members of the Board. I apologize for informal dress. I was asked to come
on very very short notice and more or less left and came here so I beg your forgiveness.
A quick history lesson; about 1995 if memory serves, there was a proposal made before this board to set
up a watershed protection district. If my memory serves, and again I didn’t have a chance to get into my
files, the purpose of that was to protect the supply ponds. At that time, Southwood Corporation was in the
process of selling raw land near the ponds for development. I opposed the proposal not because I don’t
like pure drinking water, I’ve actually been in about 50 countries wherein the water has things in it that the
almighty knows little about, and I probably have some of those things still floating around.
I oppose the proposal because it represented a transfer under color of law from the residents, homeowners,
in the watershed protection district to the shareholders of Pennichuck. I’m an economist by trade and a
couple of other things, and therefore following the money is something that I tend to do. The purpose of the
protection district essentially was that the homeowners on the far side of Henri Burque from the supply
ponds would have controls put upon the kinds of things that they might do on their property. If I recall
correctly, even putting up a storage shed would require the filing of an environmental impact statement.
Those are typically not cheap.
My point to the board then was, and it would be now, that the next ice age will set in before the litigation
ends. What Pennichuck proposes to do now apparently is sell off more raw land near the supply ponds
endangering a water supply for the protection of which a watershed protection district was established.
This does not make sense as a matter of logic although I’m certain it makes perfect financial sense to
Pennichuck. It is simply a continuation now of something that they have been doing for decades. I would
suggest that this board look very very closely at this. Water is a scarce resource globally. It is not, thank
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heavens, literally here in New Hampshire, but we do need to protect those supply ponds, and putting
especially intensive developments, apartments and such like parking lots near those ponds is a bad
concept. I use the term bad concept to convey there is no point discussing the technical details of a bad
concept. If the concept is bad the technical details are not likely, for the most part, to be good.
In short, I would, with greatest respect and again apologies for informal dress, urge the board to look very
very carefully at any developments of raw land near those supply ponds. If we could, it would be a
wonderful idea to buy the homes of those persons living near the supply ponds and let the land revert to the
raw state. We probably can’t afford to do that. We certainly should not encourage further development
there. Thank you and I will take any questions you might have. Seeing none thank you very much.
Geoff Daly, 48 Walden Pond Drive
Good evening. Mayor I congratulate you on this piece of legislation, better late than never. But I will also
like to point out this city has known since August the 30th what has been going on on this piece of land.
Communications have been had and I’ve met with you Mayor and with Mr. Steve Bennett. You referred me
to Mr. Patenaude and Mr. McNamee both of whom refused to date to meet with me. In fact Mr. McNamee
had the audacity to write me a letter, can’t be bothered to reply to an e-mail, it is above him. What you are
proposing Mayor is a good idea. I encourage, as I stated several Aldermanic meetings ago, there be a land
swap. We’re going to own Pennichuck and all of its entities, namely Southwood. Southwood has a piece
of land called Parcel N. It is not a secret. We have an e-mail and you’ve got a copy of the e-mail and so do
you Mr. McNamee, from Mr. Roland Olivier stating Parcel N is owned by Southwood.
Now funny enough we also have received a map from Mr. Don Ware and there is a piece of property on the
other side of Concord Street that is unmarked, not even recognized. Who owns it? Is that developable? Is
that 35 acres? Parcel N makes common sense. Now I have reached out to the people of Merrimack. They
have had no communications from anybody. They say it is a good consideration. And I would like to hear
from this Chamber why no one in this city has reached out to the Town of Merrimack because as Mr.
Sullivan said, something is wrong, and as I stated the other day something smells, and it does. There
needs to be openness, there needs to be transparency.
I would like to raise one aspect about the due diligence that has not been forthcoming and was not even
considered or even part of the Rizzo report. There is a PUC order, DF83-105 order #16,733 dated April 29,
1983 that states that all of the buffer lands have to be adhered to. Right now we’ve got numerous parcels
that do not even meet current NH DES buffer requirement of 300’. We’ve got parcels that have been
developed off Tinker Road that are well within that buffer. Did anybody, in their due diligence, check this?
Where is this GeoInsight report that we all know about and have been told by a Pennichuck official that has
been done and was actually asked to be done by Mr. McNamee and Mr. Patenaude, and I believe
President McCarthy you may have been involved in one of the due diligence walk throughs of the
Pennichuck property…
President McCarthy
No I was not.
Geoff Daly
…and this is the piece of…okay…this is the piece of land called Old Nashua Road where there is a huge
dump of granulated activated carbon and filter sand. It happens to be on Parcel N so that is how I got to
find out this is Southwood property. We have to start asking questions and very hard questions because if I
hadn’t gone onto the property with a bunch of other people, you would be buying a whole load of trouble
down the road because we found asbestos, we found contaminated barrels of water both in Merrimack and
in Nashua property side. And we have done due diligence? Even the people at GeoInsight, and I know
one particular person who has left the company and works now for another engineering company, said we
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were restricted on what we could do. Why? Did somebody want to hide something? Was this Southwood
and Pennichuck trying to disguise what was really on their property? I would love permission to walk over
every single 1,992 acres of land and dig up and find out what is really there, photograph it. We’ve got the
BlueMoon report, we’ve got the Ann Poole report, and we’ve done nothing.
And we’ve got a PUC order here dated 1983. Rizzo report never ever mentioned this order. So we’re even
in our own violation, in our own city ordinances where we state quite categorically all the ponds, all the land,
and all of the wetlands are within 75’. The Hayden Green thing passes at 40’. And if you go back to the
PUC it should be 500’. If it is 500’ half of the Hayden Green property goes; can never be touched, never be
developed. Mayor I encourage you contact Merrimack, talk with the Town Administrator, and talk about a
straight exchange for Parcel N because if the City does that you get a tax credit of nearly $2.2 million
through the IRS because the Pennichuck that we will have is a for-profit company and the IRS will allow
you the tax write-off under the code. I’m sure if you sit down and negotiate with Merrimack we can all come
to a happy ending. And, I hate to say this, Mr. McNamee should never have put out those memos because
all that did was insight Mr. Westgate, and yeah he is there to guard his client, threatening lawsuits. It
should never ever have reached that point. None of this happened until we went in front of the
Conservation Commission on September the 6th and the City has known since August the 30th.
Lastly, I hope Mr. McNamee you have removed that voicemail from your phone that you ran to me the other
night. Have you sir? If you haven’t, I ask this Chamber to request that Mr. McNamee remove that
voicemail from his phone. Thank you.
PETITIONS
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COX TO WITHDRAW FROM COMMITTEE THE PETITIONS FOR STREET
ACCEPTANCE FOR ANTHONY CIRCLE, COLONIAL AVENUE, EVELYN CIRCLE, LOJKO DRIVE, AND
WANDA LANE
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Cookson
Could the Chairman speak to the motion please?
Alderman Cox
The Infrastructure meeting that was held on 8-10-11 held a Public Hearing on these street acceptances.
We conducted the hearing; nobody showed up for or against. Engineer Dookran was at the meeting to
speak to the streets and the status. He also spoke to the fact that our July meeting, which the public
hearing was originally scheduled for was cancelled due to the passing of our colleague, Alderman Flynn,
and re-scheduled. Everyone on every street was notified twice. They were notified properly for the first
hearing and notified for the re-schedule and the next hearing.
We then conducted a three hour meeting of which there was an oversight and we never took from the table
the street acceptances and voted on them. That is why we are doing this now.
President McCarthy
Is there further discussion?
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COX TO APPROVE THE PETITIONS FOR STREET ACCEPTANCE FOR
ANTHONY CIRCLE, COLONIAL AVENUE, EVELYN CIRCLE, LOJKO DRIVE, AND WANDA LANE
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ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Pressly
Thank you Mr. President. As a member of this committee I’m a little bit confused. Of course I remember all
of that. It was just a logistical error that it didn’t get voted on that night?
Alderman Cox
Correct.
Alderman Pressly
I know you just cancelled a meeting for lack of business. So you would rather do it this way than to go
through the regular channels?
Alderman Cox
We held the public hearing in the regular channels Alderman Pressly and…
Alderman Pressly
Right.
Alderman Cox
…we had no against discussion.
Alderman Pressly
But we didn’t vote.
Alderman Cox
That is correct, but you will be now.
Alderman Pressly
Okay.
President McCarthy
Is there further discussion?
MOTION CARRIED
President McCarthy declared the petitions for street acceptance approved.
NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND ELECTIONS - None
REPORTS OF COMMITTEE
Budget Review Committee ................................................................. 09/26/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the September 26, 2011
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Budget Review Committee accepted and placed on file.
Human Affairs Committee ................................................................. 09/26/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the September 26, 2011
Human Affairs Committee accepted and placed on file.
Planning & Economic Development Committee ................................. 10/04/11
There being no objection, President McCarthy declared the report of the October 4, 2011
Planning & Economic Development Committee accepted and placed on file.
WRITTEN REPORTS FROM LIAISONS - None
CONFIRMATION OF MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS – None
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-11-150
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
APPROVING THE COST ITEMS OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE NASHUA BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THE NASHUA SCHOOL CUSTODIAN UNION, LOCAL
365/COUNCIL 93, AFSCME, AFL-CIO, FROM JULY 1, 2011 THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COX FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-150
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-150 declared duly adopted.
R-11-151
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
AMENDING THE USE OF FISCAL YEAR 2011 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
(“CDBG”) FUNDING BY POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN WILSHIRE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-151
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-151 declared duly adopted.
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R-11-152
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard LaRose
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $68,976 FROM THE UNITED
STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INTO SPECIAL REVENUE ACCOUNT #331-6270 “2011
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL)”
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAROSE FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-152
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-152 declared duly adopted.
R-11-153
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
APPROPRIATION TO THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT BASED ON CHANGES TO HEALTHCARE
CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY SCHOOL DEPARTMENT NON-UNION EMPLOYEES EFFECTIVE
OCTOBER 1, 2011
Given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN SHEEHAN FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-153
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Chasse
I have some questions. I think I have to ask the Mayor on this, if it is alright with you. Mayor Lozeau was
this ever brought up to the negotiating team of the union?
Mayor Lozeau
Which part?
Alderman Chasse
The part about they would receive some money if they accepted the healthcare benefits. Was that ever
leaked out to their negotiating team?
Mayor Lozeau
The information about funds being returned to various departments or divisions has been very public and
has been discussed. That money is not being returned to the bargaining unit.
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Alderman Chasse
Can I ask what this money is earmarked for?
Mayor Lozeau
I believe the school was specific about what they would use it for. I’m not sure that I have it with me tonight,
but they have a plan for all of the funds that were coming back. Some will be to replace positions, some will
be for equipment. There are different things depending on the funds available.
Alderman Chasse
Is every department that is in the City of Nashua receiving a portion of this what is it $1.67 million?
Mayor Lozeau
$1.6 million depending on if their contract is negotiated before the end of this year.
Alderman Chasse
Then that brings me back to the contracts that have already been negotiated prior to this, they will not
receive anything?
Mayor Lozeau
No, all of them have. Not the bargaining unit but the divisions and the respective departments have
received funds. The teachers, the merit employees…we’ve passed this in here as part of their contracts
right from the start.
Alderman Chasse
I will defer, I have to do some more thinking.
Alderman Deane
Thank you. It goes back to R-11-115 where I had requested a breakdown of how that $1.6 million was
figured into all of these, which I was told I got an explanation, but I still didn’t get the spreadsheets and what
I was looking for. We were told the night of the Budget Committee meeting if I remember correctly, and
maybe my colleagues can help me on this, that I think Mr. Conrad said they were going to purchase a new
sidewalk snowplow tractor with the money, with the $70,000. I believe that is what he has it earmarked for.
He also told us that these dollars in all of these contracts will be added to their…well in their budget anyway
will be added to their bottom line for next year.
All of these dollars that are being transferred over like this $70,000 will be added to their bottom line for next
year. The transfer of the funds into these departments’ operating budgets makes R-11-115 a moot point.
You don’t need it because it has been put in here. As we did with the prior piece of legislation, when we
approved that, we also approved the transfer. I hope that helped.
I want to amend this. I want to amend it in the title and body and change the date from 1 October 2011 to 1
July 2011, and I would like to speak to that.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN DEANE TO AMEND R-11-153 IN THE TITLE AND BODY BY CHANGING THE
DATE OF OCTOBER 1, 2011 TO JULY 1, 2011
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ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
Thank you. I guess a lot of this is a tough pill for people to swallow. We just approved a custodians’
contract that gave them a $225 raise and sent that retro back to July 1 along with their increase in
contributions to the health plan. That is not happening here; these are the folks that make pretty decent
salaries and this is a .65% increase. Our merit employees I believe, and you can correct me if I’m wrong
Mayor, I think theirs was ½ a percent. Everybody started off, except these folks, and Mr. Conrad’s
reasoning was well they didn’t get a raise last year. I guess how I’m looking at it is everybody is feeling the
pain. I think if the custodian and other maintenance staff that work for the school district that were involved
in that prior collective bargaining agreement are swallowing some pain I think that the balance of the
employees that are involved in this unaffiliated should also swallow a little pain and go back and pay their
rightful share of what is owed.
If that does pass, that may in turn change that budget adjustment number by increasing it, would it not
Mayor? If the Mayor could answer that, through you Mr. President?
Mayor Lozeau
Actually if we followed the system that we’ve told people that we would do yes it would increase it, but just
because you change the date does not mean that they have to retroactively pay that money back, so they
would in fact be gaining while everybody else would be losing. That would be my concern.
Alderman Deane
But would their net gain in that .65% equate to their net contribution retroactively back, would they be one in
the same? If you look at the increase in the custodians’ contract their checks are going to be less. Their
take home pay will be less because their contribution has increased.
Mayor Lozeau
By virtue of you changing this legislation Alderman Deane you cannot force the school to make these
employees retroactively pay back to July so I’m not certain what you are trying to gain by giving them
money that equates to when their date is of that settlement. The amount of money returned to different
divisions and departments is based on when the contract is negotiated or the terms are agreed to and for
those that go retroactive back to July, more money will come to that division. Just by virtue of changing this,
that doesn’t change the dollar amount and it doesn’t force them to make that change.
Alderman Deane
So we can’t legislate change? Is that what you are saying?
Mayor Lozeau
I don’t believe that you can legislate a change to the school merit employees. I don’t think that is the
authority of this board.
Alderman Deane
That is a very good point. I withdraw my motion, and there is no way, no how I would support this. It is a
travesty to the rest of everyone else that has to pay an increase in contributions in the school district
refuses, as I understood it from Mr. Conrad that they are afraid they are going to unionize or something
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else. What I am going to find interesting down the road is when we bring in these other larger unions like
police and fire are they going to be retroactive back to July 1 with their contributions?
Mayor Lozeau
My request is that they are all retroactive to July 1st.
Alderman Deane
Good luck.
Mayor Lozeau
That’s…
Alderman Deane
Thank you Mr. President. I withdraw my motion, and I would ask for a roll call on this as well.
MOTION WITHDRAWN
President McCarthy
The motion before us is for final passage of R-11-153. Is there any further discussion?
A Viva Voce Roll Call was requested, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Clemons, Alderman Vitale, Alderman Pressly, Alderman LaRose, Alderman Tabacsko,
Alderman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Cox, Alderman Sheehan, Alderman Wilshire, Alderman McCarthy
10
Nay: Alderman Craffey, Alderman Deane, Alderman Chasse, Alderman Cookson
4
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-153 declared duly adopted.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COOKSON TO RECONSIDER R-11-111
MOTION CARRIED
Division Taken
R-11-111
Endorsers: Alderman-at-Large Mark S. Cookson
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR DIRECTORS AND INTERIM OFFICERS
SELECTED TO MANAGE PENNICHUCK CORPORATION
Given its third reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN COOKSON TO OVERRIDE THE MAYOR’S VETO OF R-11-111
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ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. As we received the memo in our packet this past week, the Mayor has exercised her right on
October 4, 2011 to veto this particular resolution 11-111, requiring a background check of the interim
officers and board of directors of Pennichuck Corporation. Since the Mayor was elected into office, this is
her first veto. I have to ask why.
Alderman Clemons
No it is not.
Alderman Cookson
May I continue?
President McCarthy
You may continue.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. Within her memo she states that she actually has no objection and is actually in favor of a
background check, a credit check for the directors and the officers of Pennichuck Corporation before they
take office. What she actually objects to are the checks are being done by an independent contractor,
stating that it implies an issue with the Human Resources Department and their ability and integrity to
conduct background checks, and it actually calls into question the background checks performed on city
employees.
There are no implications. I have never and do not question our Human Resource Department’s ability or
their integrity, and I certainly do not question their ability to conduct background checks performed on city
employees. However, these aren’t city employees. What this legislation is proposing is not checks for city
employees that it is customary for H.R. to perform, these checks are for an interim CEO and at least 7-13
persons slated to be the new company’s first board of directors. If the City is successful in its attempt to
purchase the outstanding shares of a publicly traded Pennichuck Corporation then this interim CEO will be
leading a multi-million dollar company with this new board of directors. I believe the background checks
should be done by a provider independent of the walls of City Hall.
Everything that we have done to this date with respect to Pennichuck is to keep politics out of it. We’ve
done that when we authored the Bylaws and the Articles of Incorporation, we did it specifically in mind of
keeping politics separate; no elected officials, with the exception of the Mayor for a finite period of time. In
keeping with this standard, we should maintain the same separation with this background investigation
process. We should not allow any opportunity for the citizens to question or doubt the hard work which has
been done. This is a historic effort and in turn this Board of Aldermen should do everything that we can do
to ensure our constituents are positively served by our actions. Thank you.
Alderman Clemons
Thank you. I originally supported this resolution, and I read the Mayor’s veto and have come to a different
conclusion. I agree with what was stated in the veto memorandum, and therefore will be voting to sustain
the veto.
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Alderman Wilshire
I agree with the previous speaker. Our H.R. Department is doing criminal background checks. It is not like
they are being done here in City Hall, they go out. It is not like someone here is conducting the check. I will
also sustain the Mayor’s veto on this. I agree that background checks should be done there is no question
about it. I think that the way things are being handled here in City Hall are pretty on the up and up.
President McCarthy
The motion is to override the veto. I would point out, just as a procedural note, that taking a vote to override
the veto is one of several actions we can take, and if any member of the board wanted to entertain for
example Mr. Sullivan’s comments regarding the breadth of the investigations, it is also possible to further
act on this legislation or re-refer it to committee to take up those points as well.
Alderman Craffey
Thank you Mr. President. I just wanted to say that I do agree with Alderman Cookson with a background
check outside given the magnitude of what we are trying to do by purchasing a publicly owned company is
necessary and I will be supporting to override the veto. Thank you.
Alderman Vitale
I was interested to hear what Mr. Sullivan did bring up as part of his comments, and I would motion to re-
refer to committee to discuss the breadth of our background checks. If I understood the Mayor correctly, I
believe the City currently does have outside people do our background checks, it is just the scope of our
background checks and what they are going to entail that maybe we would want to discuss that further. I do
think that is important to make sure that we are doing a very thorough background check. I would motion to
re-refer to committee to discuss those issues.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN VITALE TO RE-REFER R-11-111 TO THE PERSONNEL/ADMINISTRATIVE
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Deane
I’m going to support that motion. The main reason why I’m going to support it, and I think it is a very good
motion, is I don’t think there is anybody sitting around this horseshoe that knows the entire process that
goes on. Mr. Sullivan did raise some interesting points. I think it is very worthy of some additional
conversation and some debate amongst all of us. Although we understand, through the veto message, the
Mayor did point her position, but I really think we should know absolutely what is going to take place, and
that can happen in committee. We can craft some language in there that sets that up. Whether it is done
inside or outside, I know there were concerns raised about that, but I always look at the brighter side of life
when you always hope that the right thing is being done and when they go through this process I am pretty
much assured that the right thing will be done. But I think we should all better understand the entire
process. I will be supporting Alderman Vitale’s motion.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. Thank you for the suggestion. Question through you to Corporation Counsel?
President McCarthy
Certainly.
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Alderman Cookson
If the legislation at the committee level, if it is re-referred to the committee level, has substantial changes,
modifications to it, there still is the opportunity for the Mayor to veto the new legislation, the updated
legislation that may come out of committee?
President McCarthy
I can answer that. Yes. If it is amended and passed again it is treated as a separate passage subject to the
same negative from the Mayor.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. So through you to the Mayor?
President McCarthy
Certainly.
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. If it were to go back to committee and there were new language that was added maybe similar
to what Mr. Sullivan suggested this evening, would you consider that or would your opinion still be the same
and would it be met with a veto?
Mayor Lozeau
Thank you Mr. President. I would consider anything that the committee passed and asked me to consider.
Whether it is subject to veto depends on what the information is that the committee sends out.
Alderman Cookson
You may have an idea this evening of what is being considered; additions to the language. But your
position right now is that you would consider it?
Mayor Lozeau
I would be interested in what the committee’s discussion was and what the final product was, and then I
would make a decision based on the merits of that.
Alderman Cookson
Great. Thank you. Finally, I would like to ask the Mayor to be part of those conversations if it gets back
before committee. I would love the Mayor to be part of those conversations so that we understand what is
being requested by our H.R. Department or what our H,R, Department is requesting of these checks. That
may help us better understand the process as well as come up with some language that we feel would be
advantageous to the process. Thank you.
President McCarthy
The motion is to refer to the Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee. Is there any further discussion?
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A Viva Voce Roll Call was requested, which resulted as follows:
Yea: Alderman Vitale, Alderman Craffey, Alderman Deane, Alderman Pressly, Alderman LaRose,
Alderman Tabacsko, Alderman Melizzi-Golja, Alderman Sheehan, Alderman Wilshire,
Alderman Cookson, Alderman McCarthy
11
Nay: Alderman Clemons, Alderman Cox, Alderman Chasse
3
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-111 declared referred to the Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – ORDINANCES - None
NEW BUSINESS – RESOLUTIONS
R-11-159
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 17 JACKSON STREET,
TAX MAP 39, LOT 27, FOR A PURCHASE PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $300,000
Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE and the NASHUA CITY
PLANNING BOARD by President McCarthy
R-11-160
Endorser: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
ESTABLISHING AN EXPENDABLE TRUST FUND FOR THE PURPOSE OF
RENOVATIONS, REPAIRS, AND MAINTENANCE FOR VARIOUS CITY BUILDINGS
Given its first reading; assigned to the BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE by President McCarthy
R-11-161
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman Richard LaRose
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Arthur T. Craffey, Jr.
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
RELATIVE TO THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPROPRIATION OF $51,806 INTO SPECIAL
REVENUE ACCOUNT #341-6489 “CHILDHOOD LEAD POISONING AND HEALTHY
HOMES ACTIVITIES GRANT” FROM THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES
Given its first reading; assigned to the HUMAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE by President McCarthy
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R-11-162
Endorsers: Mayor Donnalee Lozeau
Alderman-at-Large Brian S. McCarthy
Alderman-at-Large Ben Clemons
Alderman Kathy Vitale
Alderman-at-Large Barbara Pressly
Alderman Michael J. Tabacsko
Alderman Mary Ann Melizzi-Golja
Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Diane Sheehan
Alderman-at-Large Lori Wilshire
Alderman-at-Large David W. Deane
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO GIVE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT, AS REQUIRED BY
THE PENNICHUCK MERGER AGREEMENT, TO ALLOW PENNICHUCK CORPORATION
AND THE SOUTHWOOD CORPORATION TO EXTEND THE CLOSING DATE OF THE
PARCEL F SALE AGREEMENT
Given its first reading;
Alderman Deane
I have a question on this legislation. I’m not a real estate person, but when you look under the fourth
paragraph: “…Merger Agreement provides that the City must give written approval for Pennichuck
Corporation to sell real estate for a price greater than $50,000 prior to the closing of the stock purchase or
termination of the Merger Agreement, and …” the next paragraph: “…On March 22, 2007 Pennichuck
Corporation, The Southwood Corporation and North Concord Street Properties, LLC, entered into a
purchase & sale agreement to purchase property located on Concord Street in Nashua commonly known as
“Parcel F”…” now obviously the Merger Agreement was approved after the Purchase & Sale was tendered?
Is that what I’m understanding?
President McCarthy
I will defer that to Corporation Counsel.
James M. McNamee, Esq.
Yes that is correct. That is what happened.
Alderman Deane
So it doesn’t fall under the merger agreement then?
James M. McNamee, Esq.
The original purchase & sale does not, but the amendment does.
Alderman Deane
Okay. That is what I thought, but thank you very much for clarifying that. Thank you Mr. President.
President McCarthy
Is the original closing date prior to our next meeting?
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Mayor Lozeau
October 21st.
James M. McNamee, Esq.
Actually the 20th.
President McCarthy
So it would make sense for us to take final action on this piece of legislation this evening so that Pennichuck
can enter into that and the closing doesn’t take place. It would make sense to have a motion for suspension
for second reading.
MOTION BY ALDERMAN TABACSKO THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW
FOR THE SECOND READING OF R-11-162
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-162 given its second reading;
MOTION BY ALDERMAN PRESSLY FOR FINAL PASSAGE OF R-11-162
ON THE QUESTION
Alderman Pressly
Thank you. I have a question about the letter relative to Pennichuck. Would this be the appropriate time to
ask the question?
President McCarthy
Sure.
Alderman Pressly
It is the letter that we all received in our packet from Corporation Counsel. We had asked, and it was
something I had requested in committee, that we ask Pennichuck to not remove any of the items that the
citizens group had identified and brought forth without having someone from the City present. In the
response from Attorney McNamee what is of interest to me is in the first paragraph he references that there
was an environmental audit, this GeoInsight that performed the City’s environmental audit, and I don’t recall
ever seeing that. I guess my question is is that available and is that a public record today.
James M. McNamee, Esq.
It is not a public record right now because it contains material confidential information regarding
Pennichuck, but it is available to the members of the Board of Aldermen who have agreed to the
confidentiality agreement that still surrounds the merger negotiations. It was made available at the time that
the merger agreement was presented. I think Alderman Cookson even reviewed it.
Alderman Sheehan
It was in our packets. We have it.
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James M. McNamee, Esq.
Not the whole report, no.
Alderman Pressly
Not the whole thing.
James M. McNamee, Esq.
It is three volumes.
Alderman Deane
Which packet?
Alderman Pressly
My question is then in this letter you do reference that they have in fact removed a lot of the items that the
citizens group brought forth, so my question is this; since you have seen and studied the whole
environmental audit, were those things that the citizens group has brought forth, were those identified in the
environmental audit?
James M. McNamee, Esq.
I can’t tell you if they were in there or not actually. But you are welcome to take a look at it.
Alderman Pressly
So we have no way of knowing if these things that have been identified and removed, we have no way of
knowing if our environmental audit identified them also or not, we have no way of knowing…
James M. McNamee, Esq.
I just don’t recall categorically what was in the audit. I didn’t review it that closely and I certainly don’t recall
what was in it.
Alderman Pressly
Well I certainly support out taking action tonight, but I would like to have access to that audit and I would like
some questions answered. Thank you.
President McCarthy
The motion is for final passage of R-11-162. Is there any further discussion?
MOTION CARRIED
Resolution R-11-162 declared duly adopted.
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NEW BUSINESS – ORDINANCES
O-11-87
Endorser: Alderman Jeffrey T. Cox
Alderman Paul M. Chasse, Jr.
ESTABLISHING A HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACE IN FRONT OF 15 PROGRESS
AVENUE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE STREET
Given its first reading; assigned to the COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE by President McCarthy
Alderman Chasse
Seeing that we have new boundaries, is this in my ward or is this in your ward? It is in your ward?
Alderman Cox
It is in mine, but I would like to have you as a co-sponsor though. It is right across the street from you.
Alderman Chasse
Put me down as a co-sponsor.
PERIOD FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
James Cutter, 86 Palm Street
Open letter to Alderman-at-Large Brian McCarthy: Dear Alderman McCarthy; over the years I have found
out that if you work long enough on a problem you will solve it. Something Mayor Lozeau and Attorney
McNamee, who are not upholding the Constitution, should realize that the City does not have to admit their
mistakes. They can uphold the Constitution by telling the Gilbertson’s the City has been informed the 3’
wide strip of our driveway and clothesline area known as curtilage is protected by the Constitution and must
be returned to the Cutter family.
Now with this thought in mind all of us are winners and the Legal Department can write their letter to the
Gilbertson’s. Sincerely.
Robert Sullivan, 12 Stonybrook Road
Thank you. I wasn’t too sure I was going to speak. Pertaining to background screening checks I just want
to repeat one more time, give you my advice; what is important in all of this is how it is determined that
someone passes and fails a talent acquisition and management screening check. I would be more than
happy to send I think Mr. Cookson or whoever what I would recommend pertaining to these positions. I just
did a proposal to a very large company and this is not uncommon for directors or CEOs to be vetted, and it
takes extensive screening. For instance, if one of the individuals happened to work overseas, you should
do international criminal checks and other background screening checks that are unique to that particular
country because you never know what you are going to find and of these positions. I will end it at that on
that particular note.
I want to make it pretty clear that when I come up and speak it is not personal. I’m an issues oriented
individual. I’m not a Republican, I’m not a Democrat, I’m not a Tea Partier, I’m an Independent, and I
address the issues. Nothing is personal when I speak. But I want to let you know that I’m very
disappointed in the way this Parcel F situation has been handled, and I must impress upon you the
importance of inviting Mr. Geoff Daly to be a participant in this. I know he can sometimes talk a lot, but you
know something he’s usually right. Again, I want to just reiterate that the Mayor has put together a
downtown committee. I thought it was very important. I thought the end result was pretty good. Now we
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need a committee made up of citizens that care and that are concerned about what has been going on.
Thank you.
Geoff Daly, 48 Walden Pond Drive
Coming back on the GeoInsight shall we say survey/inquiry that we’ve now been told is confidential, may I
just point out to this Chamber that under federal law, any officer, any person involved in a corporation,
anybody who has a fiduciary responsibility is duty bound under federal law to report it immediately, not sit
on it, immediately. Mr. McNamee amd Mr. Patenaude were made aware of what was on Old Nashua Road.
This, under the EPA rule, is a biohazard. Mr. McNamee as you know, DES have been onsite. They have
asked and requested another survey and an analytical sample taken of that whole mess of granulated
activated carbon filter sand that has been dumped there. Admittedly Pennichuck has changed their ways
and the Calgon Company and another company are now removing that material as and when required by
law. You sir I believe need to step up announce to the DES your findings because otherwise the DES will
come down on you and the City because you have exposed the City to a problem, which is effecting the
viability of this city because the City is going to have to fight because someone failed to follow the federal
law. And it is very very well documented, and I have spoken further with Washington and with Concord
about this. They are going to let it lay at this moment, but they are hoping someone steps up and
announces yes we have known since 2010 when we did our due diligence. Take your lumps and admit it.
Be transparent.
Parcel F, the same thing; there is the possibility we have found 1 or 2 bits of debris, maybe inconsequential,
but not what was found elsewhere. And as far as what is being removed from the site, we have
photographic evidence that is in the hands of the DES right now. No permits have been issued by City of
Nashua or Merrimack. That again shows a flagrant disregard to the federal and state laws under the EPA
rules of disposal of hazardous waste. And one of them happens to be asbestos. The other one happens to
be liquids that have, and Pennichuck stated quite in front of the two DES inspectors, George Carrigan and
Rick Skarinka, yes we have already detected VOCs and PAHs. We subsequently found out that has been
removed by ENPRO and another company. Town of Merrimack never issued any permits. So they took it
upon themselves to do it. And as Alderman Pressly asked, why can’t we have someone present? We’re
going to be taking over this property. We’re not having proper oversight. That is a disgrace because if none
of us had gone onto that property and found out what we had done and Parcel F had been fully developed,
a few years down the road if an accident takes place and we get the bog contaminated and the water runs
off into the Pennichuck swales and then over into the wetlands, who pays for it, the ratepayer.
I think it is about time we all stepped up, stopped hiding behind confidentiality. We’re going to own it. It’s
not going to affect the share price in any way, shape, or form, and there is a lot of un-redacted material that
is available to the public. I’m sorry, this Chamber has got to ask themselves are we going to let this go
forward. If you do, sorry you are all responsible for the actions of one or two people who are supposed to
be looking after the City’s best interest in the negotiations.
Lastly, the other thing on the background checks, I agree with Mr. Sullivan, it needs to be independent and
you need to add in the extras. There is another aspect, and I believe Mr. Simkin may address it if he is on
the list, and I think you definitely want to put that as one of the added things. With that, thank you.
REMARKS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN
Alderman Cookson
Thank you. I just wanted to thank the members of the public who participated during this evening’s meeting
and especially thank you to citizen Sullivan who is in the business of talent management acquisition for
providing at least some recommendations for us to consider about vetting and adjudication processes. I look
forward to those additional recommendations so we may take it to the Personnel/Administrative Affairs
Committee.
Bd. of Aldermen – 10/11/11 Page 24
Also, I wanted to let the board know as well as the citizens that there is a group in Nashua called the Greater
Nashua Arts Initiative. It came out of Leadership Greater Nashua sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce,
and this group took it upon themselves to work with the Keefe Auditorium Commission and the groups that
used the Keefe Auditorium. They are having a fundraiser on the evening of October 22nd. It is a Saturday
evening. It is two Saturdays from now. At 8:00 p.m. they are bringing the Indigo Girls into Nashua for a
concert. Starting at 8:00 p.m. Between 1,000 and 1,200 tickets. Very intimate setting. If you are interested in
seeing a headlining group like the Indigo Girls come to Nashua, they will be here on the 22nd. I would like to
thank the Greater Nashua Arts Initiative for making that happen for the City.
Alderman Wilshire
Thank you. I would just like to send my condolences today to the family of Pam Drouin. Pam was a really
good family friend and died yesterday from Leukemia at the age of 41.
Alderman Deane
Thank you. I would just like to go back. Last week we indefinitely postponed the provisions for the President
of the Board of Aldermen to assume a committee chair and it was stated at the meeting that the President was
Chairman and ex officio of all standing committees outside of Finance and Joint Special School Building
Committee. That provision was removed back in 2006 under O-06-65, just for clarification. That sub-section
B was stricken.
The other thing, in sub-section B back then it stated that the second named to a committee is also the Vice-
Chairman. I just thought I would bring that to everyone’s attention. Thank you.
Alderman Craffey
Thank you. I just want to say that PAL is sponsoring the first annual Ash Street Skate Park Jam on October
29th at Noon. A $5 donation to compete in the skate and best trick competition. There will be prizes,
barbecue, raffles, tons of fun. Registration forms are available at the PAL Center at 52 Ash Street and also at
Eastern Boarder at 254 Daniel Webster Highway. Any questions please contact 603-888-0722. Thank you.
Alderman Tabacsko
Thank you. How quickly we forget. Most of us were just there; I would want to thank the downtown business
community, particularly Sy Mahfuz and Mary Lou Blaisdell for putting on the candidate forum tonight before
the meeting. I just wanted to thank them publicly for organizing that and the people who were able to make it.
That was pretty well attended. Thanks everybody.
Alderman Deane
Mr. President, thank you for the opportunity. I spoke with an individual about this Ash Street event that they
are having. What they are trying to do is trying to raise some money to purchase another obstacle to put in
there. Could they buy the obstacle and donate it to the City without us going through the expendable trust
fund situation where they make a contribution to the expendable trust fund and then the money is…
President McCarthy
I don’t see why not. I think we…
Alderman Deane
So if they wanted to buy something and donate it, so we don’t have to go through all of the rigmarole we just
have to make sure they go through the proper channels…
Bd. of Aldermen – 10/11/11 Page 25
President McCarthy
I think we would introduce a resolution to accept the donation.
Alderman Deane
To accept the obstacle and place it in the park. Okay.
Alderman Tabacsko
Only if a majority of the board can actually navigate the obstacle.
President McCarthy
We may want to be careful about how we word that, but…
Alderman Deane
Alright. I will let the individual know. That is good, take the bureaucracy out of it. Thank you.
Alderman Vitale
This past weekend was the Applefest at Sullivan Farm. It was very well attended. I would like to thank
everybody in the city that participated and helped with it and all of the residents that attended and made it a
success.
Tomorrow from 6:00 – 7:00 p.m. at Starbucks, I will have a Ward 1 coffee for anyone that would like to stop
by.
President McCarthy
I too had the opportunity to stop by Applefest. It certainly looked like most of the people who were there were
having a great time. It is a good event. Good to see that in our city and good to see the last surviving farm in
the city with lots of people at it.
Committee announcements:
Alderman Clemons
The Personnel/Administrative Affairs Committee will meet this Thursday in these Chambers at 7:00 p.m.
Alderman Deane
The Budget Review Committee will meet on 10-20-11 at 7:00 p.m. in this Chamber.
Alderman Tabacsko
The Planning & Economic Development Committee meeting is a week from tonight. Actually if I could
maybe ask the Mayor; Mr. Galligani had asked me about a 6:30 p.m. start, and I didn’t get that clarified one
way or the other yet. Do you know if 7:00 p.m. is okay with him or 6:30 p.m.?
Bd. of Aldermen – 10/11/11 Page 26
Mayor Lozeau
I think 6:30 p.m. is easier for the people that want to participate. If it is not a problem for the committee, that
would be their preference.
Alderman Tabacsko
If my colleagues would grant me a little leeway here, I would kind of like a little survey of the PEDC
committee if 6:30 p.m. is an acceptable start time. It is a presentation Mr. Galligani has on the Jackson
Falls Dam, which sounds very interesting. I just didn’t want to make that call without some input from the
committee. Is it okay with you?
Alderman Pressly
Fine with me.
Alderman LaRose
Yes.
Alderman Craffey
Yes.
Alderman Cookson
Fine.
Alderman Tabacsko
I will confirm him for 6:30 p.m. and we will get it on the schedule that way.
Mayor Lozeau
Thank you.
President McCarthy
Any other committee announcements?
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY ALDERMAN LAROSE THAT THE OCTOBER 11, 2011 MEETING OF THE BOARD OF
ALDERMEN BE ADJOURNED
MOTION CARRIED
The meeting was declared adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Attest: Patricia Piecuch, Deputy City Clerk
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Re: Mil/yard Chimney - Status Update
I wanted to provide you with an update on our efforts for the restoration of the Millyard
Chimney.
Last spring, we contracted with Weidlinger Associates, Inc. (WAI) of Cambridge, MA to
perform a structural analysis of the Millyard Chimney and received their report in July,
201 I. The conclusions of the report state that, in their opinion, even with the
anticipated restorative work, the chimney will not comply with the seismic or wind
requirements of the State of New Hampshire Building Code. They recommended that
the height of the chimney be reduced from its original 180 foot height to 100-120 feet.
In their report, they also noted that while the lower height would meet the wind
requirements, a waiver would still be needed for the seismic load requirements. We
have asked, and are awaiting, their opinion of how likely it is that a waiver will be
granted.
Following receipt of WAifs report, we approached International Chimney Corporation
(ICC) of Buffalo, NY. ICC is the contractor that removed the top 15 feet of the chimney
last spring. We asked them to have their engineering staff review the report from WAI
. and prepare a proposal to conduct their own analysis to provide a second opinion.
They contacted us last week to say that they do not recommend a second analysis
because two engineers from their staff have reviewed the WAI report and agree with
their conclusions.
We are currently reviewing our options. We have contacted both WAI and ICC and
asked for their input on whether there is any practical way to reinforce the chimney in
order to meet the wind load requirements at the original height of 180 feet. We have
also asked for budgetary cost estimates for what reducing the height would cost.
Finally, we have asked both WAI and ICC if there is a cost effective way to demolish
and construct a new chimney to the original height in a way that would comply with
wind loads and be eligible for a waiver on the seismic loading.
229 Main Street· PO Box 2019 . Nashua, NH 03061-20 9
603.589.3260 . fax 603.594.3450 . NashuaMa)'or@NashuaNH.gov
Restoration of this chimney has been identified as an important aspect of the Parkway
project-wide program for mitigation of impacts to historic resources. t along with many
people in our community, recognize the chimney as an iconic landmark. representative
of the historic millyard area.
We will update the New Hampshire Department of Historic Resources on the status of
these concerns at their November project coordination meeting with NHDOT.
We will also update the Board of Public Works and the Board of Aldermen as we
continue to investigate options for addressing these results.
Thank you.
OFFICE OF CORPORATION COUNSEL
CITY OF NASHUA
MEMORANDUM
TO: Brian McCarthy
CC: Mayor Lozeau
Board of Aldermen
FROM: James McNamee
DATE: October 7. 20 II
RE: Removal of debris from Pennichuck property
At your request, I contacted Pennichuck to inquire about the removal of debris from their
site and to ask that a city representative be present when the items were removed from the
property. On September 21 51 Pennichuck responded that the city is welcome to observe the
removal of the materials, but requested that any observer be a licensed environmental engineer.
such as an engineer from Geolnsight that performed the city's environmental audit. I contacted
our engineering department and determined that the city does not have a licensed environmental
engineer on staff.
Pennichuck also provided the attached estimate from Enpro Environmental, which was
contracted to remove the various materials except for stumps and slashing. Enpro was to remove
the 55-gallon drums found at the site. Evidently the notation on the estimate "Non-RCRA. Non-
DOT Regulated Used Oil (assume <2% solids)" indicates that the barrel contents were likely rain
water. Enpro was to pump out and then remove the empty drums. Enpro was also to remove a
considerable quantity of plastic tube settlers and a small quantity ofNH Regulated Hydrated
Lime from the storage site ofT the access road leading from the Nashua plant to Harris Pond.
Enpro will also remove and recycle the steel parts photographed on the site.
Enpro subcontracted with Accolade Environmental to remove the transite pipes and
collars. Pennichuck provided the attached copy of Accolade's current license from the NHDES.
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Penniehuck further indicated that Accolade would remove transite pipes and collars from its
Pittsfield, NH plant and the Will Street distribution center in Nashua as well as from the site near
the treatment plant.
A few days later Pennichuck advised that representatives from the New Hampshire
Department of Environmental Services (DES) walked the site with the treatment plant manager
and a number ofcitizens. Given the clear involvement of DES and the lack of a licensed
environmental engineer. either on stafTor on contract, I determined that an additional observer
from the city was not necessary.
Pennichuck restated its goal to remove and/or recycle any and all materials by Sept. 30th
in order to ensure that it was in full compliance with the environmental provisions ofour
Agreement and Plan of Merger. I checked back with Pennichuck this week and was told that the
task of removing. the transit pipe remained undone because the DES permit to transport the pipe
was pending. They anticipated receiving that permit by October 5th •
Please let me know if you have any further questions regarding this matter.
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Foreman 12 10 16 Hour S 65.00 $ 780.00 to S 1,040.00
Technician 12 to 16 Hour S 55.00 S 660.00 to $ 880.00
Equipment Operalor 12 10 16 Hour $ 60.00 $ 720.00 10 $ 960.00
Utility Truck w lransfer pump 1 to 2 Day $ 200.00 S 200.00 10 S 400.00
Backhoe 1 10 2 Day $ 575.00 S 575.00 10 S 1,150.00
Rollorr Truck (Mob & Oemob) of 20 Yd rolloff cans 2 to 2 Each $ 450.00 S 900.00 to S 900.00
New 55 gaDon drumS-Sleel 3 10 4 Each $ 40.00 $ 120.00 to S 160.00
New 55 gallon drums-poly 1 10 1 Each $ 58.00 $ 58.00 to S 58.00
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Box Truck & Operator-drums 1 to 1 Slop Fee S 200.00 S 200.00 10 $ 200.00
Dumptruck & Operalor (Sleel Debris disposal) 10 10 10 Hour $ 105.00 $ 1,050.00 to S 1,050.00
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Disposal: Non·ReRA, Non-DOT Regulated Used Oil (assume <2·'" solids)
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Disposal: NH Regulated hydraled lime (NH02) 1 to 1 55 Gallon S 235.00 S 235.00 10 S 235.00
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Licensed Asbestos Supervisor & Two Licensed Workers. Utility Truck.
Transportalon & disposal by W.... MgL Inc. Turnkey Landfill (included).
Pittsfield. NH 1 to 1 Day S 2,750.00 $ 2,750.00 S 2,750.00
3" x l' asbeslos pipe (outside), 4" x1' asbeslos pipe (outside), 20 pieces of assorted
size 18"·36'englh asbestos pipe (inside bam)
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One (1) 36" Diameler x 5'Iength asbestos pipe. One (1) 40 x 16· Diameter
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