Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · October 4, 2011
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NASHUA CONSERVATION COMMISSION
OCTOBER 4, 2011
MEETING MINUTES
A regular meeting of the Nashua Conservation Commission was held on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 at 7:00
p.m. in the Planning Department Conference Room.
Chairman David MacLaughlin presided;
Members of the Commission Present: Richard Gillespie, Clerk
Mary Brundage
Peggy Trivilino
Suzanne Harvey, Alternate
Members of the Commission Absent: Michael Gallagher, Treasurer
Cynthia Overby
Also in Attendance: Lucy St. John, Deputy Planning Manager
Mr. Raymond Roussel, 113 Lund Road
Mrs. Kathleen Roussel, 113 Lund Road
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO TAKE FROM THE TABLE THE MEETING MINUTES OF
SEPTEMBER 6, 2011
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HARVEY
MOTION CARRIED
Conservation Commission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . September 6, 2011
• Tabled 10-4-11
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HARVEY
MOTION CARRIED
Conservation Commission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . September 20, 2011
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO
MOTION CARRIED
Special Conservation Commission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . September 27, 2011
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE
MOTION CARRIED
OLD BUSINESS
• Lovewell Pond Cleanup Day
Scheduled for 9:00 a.m., Saturday, October 22, 2011.
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Commissioner Gillespie noted weekends are difficult for him; therefore, he would choose a weekday to
perform some cleaning on his own. He requested he be advised of where debris should be left
• Signs on Conservation Areas
Additional signs will be posted on both the Terrell and Lovewell parcels by the Society for the Protection
of New Hampshire Forests (Society) in coordination with staff. The Society holds a conservation
easement on both properties. The posting will occur when conditions are more conductive (leaves off
the trees).
NEW BUSINESS
Special Election of Vice Chairman, Per Bylaws; Article IX Officers 2.c. Vacancy
Chairman MacLaughlin called for nominations for Vice Chairman of the Nashua Conservation Commission for
the remainder of the 2011 term.
COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE NOMINATED COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO
VOTE ON ELECTION OF COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO THE POSITION OF VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE
NASHUA CONSERVATION COMMISSION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 2011 TERM
MOTION CARRIED
Chairman MacLaughlin declared Commissioner Trivilino duly elected to the position of Vice Chairman of the
Nashua Conservation Commission for remainder of the 2011 term.
UPDATES / OTHER BUSINESS
• Terrell Homestead Conservation Area (THCA); mowing, debris/old car removal, ordering of signs,
posting of signs, brochure, information for website, and trail maintenance.
Ms. St. John informed the Commission mowing began the prior Friday at which time half of the field
was mowed. She was unsure whether or not, due to recent weather, mowing has resumed. She
remarked she and Ryan Young of the Society for the Protection of New Hampshire Forests were onsite
and provided direction on the area to be mowed. She stated trees located in the center of the field
would be coming down. This work is being performed for the purpose of wildlife management and will
provide for growth of successional vegetation providing opportunities for smaller animals to have cover.
The brush being cut would be placed along the existing tree line. She noted cars and other large debris
remain to be removed and will be addressed when weather conditions allow.
BUSINESS & COMMUNICATIONS
From: Public Service of New Hampshire Email from James Mayo dated September 26, 2011.
Re: Project Update; Nashua High School South 36-38 Riverside Street. Map 75, Lot 271.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE
MOTION CARRIED
From: New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, Wetland Bureau
Re: Utility Maintenance Notification Form for Public Service of New Hampshire
PSNH; existing Right-of-Way corridor crosses the Nashua High School Athletic Fields. Directional
Drilling method. Total impacted area within the protected Shoreland is 2,500 sq. ft. Total impacted
area within the prime wetland setback (Nashua River) is 1,000 sq. ft.
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MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE
MOTION CARRIED
From: Michael Lotti, email of September 26, 2011
Re: Energy North/PSNH; 38 Bridge Street, monitoring wells
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE
ON THE QUESTION
Commissioner Gillespie commented the applicant was looking to reduce the amount of barrier around their
drilling sites and wished to utilize straw tubes instead of straw bales. He questioned whether staff has visited
the site. Ms. St. John remarked the Commission conducted a site walk a few years prior but she hasn’t visited
the site since. She added the engineer conveyed the proposed change is quite minimal. The Commission
commented they were appreciative the engineer called to inquire about input.
Commissioner Gillespie commented the requested change sounds reasonable. He noted they are drilling with
augers (dry method); therefore, there will be no water flowing over the site. He found the requested change to
be acceptable.
MOTION CARRIED
From: Carol Andrews, Executive Director, NH Audubon
Re: Birds; State of New Hampshire’s Birds Conservation Guide, report by NH Audubon
Report also available on NH Audubon website at www.nhaudubon.org/consrvation/reports-publications
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE THAT THE RULES BE SO FAR SUSPENDED AS TO ALLOW
FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS PREPARED
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO
MOTION CARRIED
From: BAE Systems
Re: Standard Dredge and Fill Permit Application
Tax Map Parcel 41-78
90 Canal Street, Nashua, NH
Commissioner Gillespie commented he had not had the opportunity to review the communication and wished
to be provided that opportunity or an explanation of the communication. Ms. St. John noted the communication
was not received until shortly before start of the meeting and explained the applicant had been before the
Commission and received authorization to install two light poles. At that time, it was not clear whether or not a
Dredge & Fill Application would be required. It is now known that is necessary and the applicant has
forwarded a copy of their application. She suggested the communication could be placed on the Commission’s
next agenda and she could, in the meantime, provide Commissioners with a copy of the complete application.
Commissioner Trivilino questioned whether the requirement for the application was an indication the
installation would involve more disruption of the surrounding ground than previously believed. Ms. St. John
responded, based on what she has read, the application appears to be in line with what was presented to the
Commission in September.
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MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GILLESPIE TO TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HARVEY
MOTION CARRIED
From: Ridgely Mauck, P.E., New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services,
Alteration of Terrain Bureau
Re: World Academy, Map B/Lot 76, Nashua, NH
Permit: AoT-0317
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE
MOTION CARRIED
From: NH Listens
Re: Invitation to Participate in NH Listens: Conversations on Outdoor Recreation
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO
ON THE QUESTION
Ms. St. John informed the Commission the communication came through the New Hampshire Office of Energy
and Planning and New Hampshire Parks & Recreation. She noted the meeting was scheduled for the
following day and is an opportunity for the public to provide comments on outdoor recreational opportunities.
MOTION CARRIED
From: New Hampshire Association of Conservation Commissions
Re: Changes to the NHACC Bylaws to be Voted on at the
Annual Meeting on November 5, 2011, Concord, NH
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER TRIVILINO TO ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE
ON THE QUESTION
Commissioner Gillespie commented the communication speaks to the Commission nominating a
representative to attend the annual meeting to cast a ballot for or against the proposed changes. Ms. St. John
commented this communication was also received October 3rd, after the agenda was posted. She remarked
she wished to bring it to the commission’s attention to provide ample notification for anyone wishing to attend.
She noted she was unsure whether or not funding was available to support the attendance of a commissioner.
She suggested the Commission might wish to accept the communication and consider whether or not it wished
to appoint a representative and take a position on the proposed changes separately.
Commissioner Gillespie was agreeable to accepting the communication and discussing attendance and
position on the proposed changes at the next meeting.
MOTION CARRIED
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS – None
PROJECT UPDATES BY COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Gillespie informed the Commission he noticed earlier in the day construction activity at the
Lowell Five Savings Bank site on East Dunstable Road. Work is being done inside of the building.
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Mrs. Roussel remarked she and her husband were before the Commission with concerns related to
construction taking place across the street from their residence, and what, if any, impact such construction
would have on the ongoing flooding issues experienced in the neighborhood and the wetlands. She explained
they live near the confluence of Hale and Harris Brook (in their backyard).
As a means of providing the Commission with history of flooding problems experienced in their neighborhood,
Mrs. Roussel informed the Commission major flooding problems were experienced in years past, which
resulted from the filling of wetlands located approximately 1/8 of a mile from their residence. The wetlands
were filled in during the early ‘90s in conjunction with the expansion of the highway. During that construction,
the Army Corps of Engineers held the State’s permits until flooding issues could be resolved. As a means of
addressing the issue, the State was required to cover ¾ of the costs of the installation of culverts in their
driveway and on Lund Road. The City covered the remaining costs. She provided a copy of the engineering
report done at that time, for the record.
A 10 x 5 box culvert placed in their yard has alleviated most of the problems as it directs water to the opposite
side of their driveway, and there is a large area used as a detention pond. She stated the study called for two
48” culverts under Lund Road, which were installed, but had to be capped as leaving them at 48” caused
residents on the other side of Lund Road to experience flooding or increased flooding. The culverts were
capped at 36” and a 42” resulting in a net gain of approximately 6”.
In the area of one of the culverts is a parcel that has been sub-divided. There are plans to build a home on the
portion of the sub-divided lot that is closest to the culvert. She remarked there is an easement identified on lot
52, which might now be identified differently as a result of the lot being sub-divided.
She stated the entire neighborhood continues to experience flooding problems and increased development has
and will continue to worsen the situation. She stated her hope someone from the City would be able to review
the construction that is underway and be able to provide some assurance it will not contribute to increased
flooding in the area. Chairman MacLaughlin questioned the lot number of the parcel. Ms. St. John explained
the account number to be 9026.
Ms. St. John informed the Commission Mrs. Roussel visited the Planning Department in July and expressed
her concerns related to flooding, drainage, and impacts to wetlands, and provided the history of the area. That
information was forwarded to the Public Works Department, the Building Department, and Code Enforcement
as it was believed the issues were more closely related to city drainage/flooding. Mrs. Roussel returned today
and informed her nothing has been resolved to her satisfaction and noted the proximity of her residence to the
brooks, the filling in of a swimming pool on the property across the street, concerns with a wetland in the area,
etc. Mr. & Mrs. Roussel requested the opportunity to attend the Commission meeting, and were informed
Commission meetings are public meetings and all are welcome to attend. It was pointed out their issue was
not one included on the Commission’s agenda. Ms. St. John added the Chairman generally provides the
public the opportunity to convey issues of concern.
Ms. St. John informed the Commission the Roussel’s concerns have been again forwarded to the Public Works
Department, and stated her belief some of the issues involve culverts, drainage, stormwater, etc. She
encouraged Mrs. Roussel to contact the Department of Public Works. Ms. St. John also explained if an
individual intends to construct a home they are required to go through the building permit process in which
case a review would be conducted of whether wetlands would be impacted. She stated, at this point in time,
she is not aware of a building permit being applied for.
Commissioner Trivilino questioned the size of the parcel. Ms. St. John responded she couldn’t recall the
parcel size, but could provide that information. Commissioner Trivilino remarked there are wetlands
encroaching onto the lot. Mrs. Roussel noted, over the years, construction materials have been stored onsite.
Commissioner Trivilino stated she would drive by and view the site.
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Mrs. Roussel informed the Commission the City is court ordered, because of the flooding problems, to clean
the culverts twice a year, and stated that does not occur. She stated she and her husband take it upon
themselves to clean the culverts and the brook. When asked, she stated neighbors are aware of the proper
care of the wetlands, but don’t seem to be too concerned, i.e. filling in with leaves, etc. She noted they
received the wetland brochure, as did their neighbors. They are frustrated no one else seems to care about the
flooding, the wetlands being filled with leaves, yard waste, and with all the development over the years, this
just continues to get worse. Chairman MacLaughlin questioned whether Code Enforcement could become
involved and notify individuals who are in violation.
Ms. St. John reiterated she provided information to Code Enforcement and had the opportunity to speak with
Mr. Ortega. However, their top priorities at the moment are related to enforcement issues associated with
housing, building safety, etc. When asked if it could be a low priority for Code Enforcement, Ms. St. John
remarked she believes it might take more than sending out notices, i.e., knocking on doors and informing
people of restrictions or sending out another letter speaking to the concerns regarding flooding/drainage, etc.
Chairman MacLaughlin suggested Code Enforcement visit those individuals who are in violation.
Commissioner Trivilino questioned if the penalties for wetland violations extend beyond stern talking to. Ms.
St. John responded in her time with the City she is not aware of any wetland violations with imposed penalties,
and noted imposing penalties is more time intensive and requires substantial follow-up. She reiterated there
might be something the Public Works Department can do to address the drainage.
Commissioner Trivilino questioned whether a regulatory structure exists within the City identifying/imposing
penalties for varying degrees of wetland violations. Ms. St. John responded with any land use code under the
Statutes there are provisions to impose penalties, and reiterated in her time with the City she is unaware of any
penalties being imposed. She added there are provisions within city ordinances that speak to removal of trees
in a wetland or wetland buffers and State RSAs that provide municipalities the authority to impose penalties.
She touched upon the varying level of notifications and time requirements involved in addressing such issues.
She remarked although enforcement is a means of address such issues, education is an important aspect as
well. She suggested in addition to speaking with the Public Works Department another letter could be sent to
those in the immediate area making them aware of concerns brought to the attention of the City and the
importance of preserving the wetlands, etc.
Commissioner Gillespie questioned whether a building permit application had been filed. Ms. St. John stated
she is not aware of any permit application. When asked if they would object to members of staff or the
Commission visiting their property, Mr. & Mrs. Roussel stated they would have no objections. Ms. St. John
stated she would share the minutes of the meeting with the Public Works Department. Mrs. Roussel noted it is
the staff of the wastewater treatment facility that cleans the brooks of trees, beaver dams and other
obstructions.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRUNDAGE TO ADJOURN
MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HARVEY
MOTION CARRIED
The Conservation Commission meeting of October 4, 2011 was adjourned at 7:59 p.m.
Attest: Richard Gillespie
Committee Clerk
Agenda
City of Nashua
Conservation Commission
City Hall, 229 Main Street, PO Box 2019, Nashua NH 03061-2019
(603) 589-3105 www.nashuanh.gov
NASHUA CONSERVATION COMMISSION
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
Regular Meeting
Correction to Meeting Location
A regular meeting of the Nashua Conservation Commission will be held on Tuesday, October 4,
2011 at 7:00 PM, in the Planning Conference Room, City Hall, 2nd Floor - 229 Main Street.
A. Call to order
B. Roll call
C. Approval of minutes:
• September 6, 2011- regular meeting
• September 20, 2011- regular meeting
• September 27, 2011- special meeting
D. Old Business:
• Lovewell Pond- clean up day
• Signs- on conservation areas
E. New Business:
• Special Election of Vice Chair, Per Bylaws- Article IX Officers 2.c. Vacancy. Resignation of
Vice Chair Nicholas Frasca, effective September 20, 2011.
F. Other Business and Updates:
• Terrell Homestead Conservation Area (THCA)- mowing, debris/old car removal,
ordering of signs, posting of signs, brochure, information for website and trail
maintenance
• Other
G. NCC Correspondence and Communications:
From: Public Service of New Hampshire. Email from James Mayo, dated September 26, 2011.
Project location- Nashua High School South 36-38 Riverside Street. Map 75, Lot 271.
RE: Project update. This item was on the August 2, 2011 agenda. Ward 5.
From: New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, Wetland Bureau, Utility
Maintenance Notification Form for Public Service of New Hampshire. Received
September 27, 2011.
Nashua Conservation Commission
Agenda for Tuesday, October 4, 2011
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RE: PSNH- Existing Right-of-Way corridor crosses the Nashua High School Athletic Fields.
Directional Drilling method. Total impacted area within the protected Shoreland is 2,500
square feet. Total impacted area within the prime wetland setback (Nashua River) is
1,000 square feet. Project update. This item was on the August 2, 2011 agenda. Ward 5.
From: Michael Lotti, email of September 26, 2011
RE: Energy North/PSNH – 38 Bridge Street- monitoring wells. Project approval granted at
the January 4, 2011 meeting.
From: NH Audubon, Carol Andrews, Executive Director
RE: Birds- State of New Hampshire’s Birds Conservation Guide- report by NH Audubon,
received September 26, 2011. Report also available on NH Audubon website at
www.nhaudubon.org/consrvation/repots-publications
H. Informational Items:
I. Project Updates by Commissioners:
J. Non-Public Session – request to go into non-public session
K. Adjournment
Accommodations for the Sensory Impaired
“Suitable Accommodations for the Sensory Impaired will be provided upon adequate advanced
notice.”
Next Meeting: Tuesday, October 18, 2011
Please turn off cell phones and pagers. Thank you.
Questions regarding the agenda can be directed to
Lucy A. St. John, AICP- Deputy Planning Manager
Planning Department at (603) 589-3113