Ambulance Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · February 21, 2013
Minutes
AMBULANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
February 21, 2013
9:00 AM
Meeting held at:
Division of Public Health & Community Services
18 Mulberry Street
Nashua, NH 03060
Meeting called to order at 9:02 a.m. by Kerran Vigroux, DPHCS Director
AAC Members Present:
Kerran Vigroux, Director, Public Health & Community Services
Richard Conway, Captain, Nashua Fire Department
Jeff Bukunt, Captain, Nashua Police Department
Mark Hastings, Southern NH Medical Center
Fran Dupuis, St. Joseph Hospital
AMR Representatives:
Christopher Stawasz, AMR
Roland Vaillancourt, AMR
Public Present:
David Fredette, Treasurer/Tax Collector – City of Nashua
Members were given Minutes from the December 20, 2012 meeting; the AMR Reports for
December 2012 and January 2013; and the Agenda for the February 21, 2012 meeting.
Motion made to accept the Minutes from the December 20, 2012 meeting as amended, showing
that Chief Galipeau was present and not Captain Conway.
Mark Hastings accepted the Motion.
Jeff Bukunt seconded the Motion
All in favor – Unanimous
Minutes Approved
Motion made to accept the Minutes from the February 4, 2013 meeting.
Fran Dupuis accepted the Motion.
Richard Conway seconded the Motion
All in Favor – Unanimous
Minutes Approved
Chris Stawasz
AMR December 2012 and January 2013 Reports
o During December and January we dealt with snow emergencies/blizzards.
It was actually quiet and we had very few calls for ambulance services during
these storms.
o Rick - Are you noticing a pattern when you need to add a 4th or 5th truck?
Chris: No; this occurrence is less than 1.5%
o Mark: The numbers of mutual aid coming to town have doubled
Chris: Cumulatively it is .85% of system volume; anything over 1% is a
trigger for additional resources.
o Kerran – Are there any additional questions.
None
o Kerran asked if Chris had sent her the personnel spreadsheet
Chris stated would forward that.
Kerran opened up the meeting to comments and discussion regarding questions that had been
previously asked about the contract.
o She met with Steve Bennett and asked him if we were to amend the paragraphs
regarding the balanced billing piece, would this be something we could do as an
addendum or would it be a material change that would require an RFP and opening
up to bid. Steve said because it didn’t change the nature of the contract, it’s his
opinion that it doesn’t require a new RFP or new contract. AMR would have to be
amenable to that change, but he did say that he considered it an important material
change, and because of that, he said a communication would still need to be sent to
the Board of Aldermen recommending the change. They would then move to accept,
place on file and approve. It’s not enough to open up for a new contract, but still
enough that the Board of Aldermen would need a vote to approve it. This all relies on
AMR considering those types of changes, as it would affect their revenue.
Chris
o Chris responded to a question regarding how many Rockingham employees were
brought over, and handed out an explanation to everybody.
We received 73 employment applications during our job fairs, and we hired
72 out of those 73 former Rockingham employees.
Chris stated that he doesn’t know how many of those people are still
with AMR.
o Chris responded to a question regarding AMR’s footprint shrinking.
Footprints are always changing; however, our footprint is unmatched by
anybody.
Kerran – I think that the comment was trying to get to the point that there have
been closures in certain areas and municipalities, and how would that affect
backup.
Chris – We have not closed any facilities in NH, some in Mass, but we do not
pull from them.
Kerran – Would you pull from Manchester, etc.
We pull from our AMR ambulances that are on the road, based upon
where they are; for example Exit 10 in Merrimack.
o Chris responded to a questions regarding Medicare rates
CMS publishes those rates yearly and changes usually take place on January
1st, unless Congressional legislation triggers things happening, ie, during the
last budget cycle, the physicians and ambulances were scheduled for a 3%
reduction, but were given a grace period for the next 6 months.
CMS publishes these changes whenever they occur and they are
available online.
o Chris handed out these rates and codes.
Kerran – for those who are not involved in this billing, this is
important when a patient is billed Medicare plus 25%.
Chris - Impacts self-pays and those with a large deductable.
o Chris responded to a request to have the usual and customary rates, which he passed
to everyone.
Kerran – The first item is mileage, and Medicare would reimburse
$7.09 out of the $35.00 that you would charge.
o Kerran – Does anyone have any additional questions?
David asked Kerran about the question that was asked at the 2/4/13 meeting
concerning extending the contract for a year versus an RFP. The notes stated
that Kerran was going to ask Steve about that.
I believe you would still need to get approval from the Finance
Committee, is that right?
Kerran – Because it’s not a financial sort of service, and we are not paying for
that, I didn’t ask that.
David – I believe that you do still need to get their approval in order to extend
it.
Kerran – I will follow up
Kerran – The Mayor asked us to meet to discuss the pros and cons of going
out to bid versus extending the current contract. I will meet with the mayor
next week and share what we have discussed today with her.
Most of the calls we have dealt with concern billing and not about care
received.
o Mark wanted to make sure that the Mayor would be notified that he and Fran
recommended going out to bid. Kerran assured him that she would convey this and
that the Mayor had already received the minutes from the 2/4/13 meeting.
Kerran Vigroux requested a motion to adjourn.
Mark Hastings moved to adjourn the meeting.
Richard Conway seconded the motion to adjourn
All in favor: Aye
Meeting ended at 9:35 a.m.
The next AAC Meeting will be held on Thursday, April 18, 2013 at 9:00 a.m., at the City of
Nashua, Public Health and Community Services building, located at 18 Mulberry Street, Nashua.
Respectfully Submitted,
Barbara Scacco
Administrative Assistant II
City of Nashua
Agenda
Nashua Ambulance Advisory Committee
February 21, 2013
9:00 – 10:00 AM
Meeting location:
Division of Public Health & Community Services
18 Mulberry Street
Nashua, NH 03062
AGENDA
I. Call to Order, Kerran Vigroux, DPHCS Director
II. Welcome
III. Vote on December 2012 AAC Meeting Minutes
IV. Distributed Documents:
a. Agenda February 2013 meeting
b. Minutes from December 2012 AAC Meeting
c. AMR Ambulance Reports – December 2012 and January 2013
V. AMR Operations Manager’s Reports, Christopher Stawasz
VI. Committee Members Questions/Comments
VII. Public Comments
VIII. Adjourn
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