Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · July 24, 2012
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
July 24, 2012
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Rob Shaw, Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Rob Shaw, Chair
Gerry Reppucci, Vice Chair
Jack Currier, Clerk
Rick Johnson
David Creed
J.P. Boucher
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Shaw explained the Board's procedures, including the points
of law required for applicants to address relative to variances
and special exceptions. Mr. Shaw explained how testimony will
be given by applicants, those speaking in favor or in opposition
to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board of Adjustment
(ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Shaw also explained procedures involving the
timing light.
1. Richard & Diane Sadoski (Owners) 3 Loop Avenue (Sheet C Lot
230) requesting the following: 1) special exception to
allow an accessory (in-law) dwelling unit; and the
following variances: 2) to encroach 23 feet into the 25
foot required right side yard setback, 3) to exceed maximum
area of accessory dwelling unit, 700 sq.ft allowed, 984
sq.ft proposed, and 4) to exceed the maximum floor area for
an accessory dwelling unit, 30% allowed – 41% proposed –
all requests to construct an 18’x24’ attached two-story
addition. R40 Zone, Ward 5.
Voting on this case:
Rob Shaw
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
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David Creed
Diane & Richard Sadosky, 3 Loop Avenue, Nashua, NH. Mrs.
Sadosky said they’ve talked to all their neighbors, and they are
in favor of the request. She said the reason why they are
asking for the special exception is that their son and daughter-
in-law have been living with them the past 2 years, and they’re
sharing a kitchen. She said the new addition will allow for
better living arrangements within the house and addition.
Mr. Shaw said there are three dimensional variances as well.
Mrs. Sadosky said the kitchen is on the side that the addition
would be built on. She said the other side of the house, it
goes up three stories, plus, there is a pool on that side of the
property. She showed the Board some pictures.
Mr. Sadosky said they wouldn’t have access to the house if they
built the addition on the other side of the house. Also, Loop
Avenue wasn’t finished through to Parker Drive. He said that it
would be hard to access the addition or even to have access to a
garage on that side. He said the garage will be a benefit in
inclement weather, so that no one slips and falls outside.
Mrs. Sadosky said that she has another letter of support from
another neighbor, all the neighbors get along very well.
Mr. Shaw asked if they could speak to the points of law relative
to the special conditions for an accessory dwelling unit.
Mrs. Sadosky said that her and her husband would live in the in-
law apartment. She said it would work out will with the living
arrangements inside the house, and to have another kitchen.
Mr. Shaw went over the accessory dwelling unit points of law,
and Mrs. Sadosky said they meet all of the criteria.
Mr. Creed asked if the structure is going to be like a two-
family house.
Mrs. Sadosky said that the interior will not be cordoned off, or
walled in so that you can’t go from one unit to the other. She
said that the nature of the house is that it will still look
like a single-family home.
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Mr. Currier asked about the square footage.
Mrs. Sadosky explained that the house is a cape, so there is
space on the second floor that you cannot count.
Mr. Falk explained how staff calculated the square footage. He
said that there is space by the eaves where square footage is
not calculated. He said they came up with just under 1,000
square feet of size.
Mr. Currier asked about a 1998 Zoning Board case in which the
pool was requested in the wetland buffer, and there was a
statement that the pool couldn’t be placed anywhere without
being in the 75-foot wetland buffer, he thought that was an
erroneous statement.
Mrs. Sadosky stated that there is a 100-foot review board, and
said that there wasn’t a place in the back yard to put the pool
without it being in the buffer zone.
Mr. Falk said he gave the Board a drawing showing the wetland
area, and said that the addition is not within a wetland buffer,
rather, it’s over 100 feet away.
Mr. Johnson asked about a part of the building that could be
rented out, where there is complete privacy.
Mr. Falk said that staff doesn’t review rent receipts, or if
anyone is paying to live there. He said most all accessory
dwelling units are family members. He said these buildings are
not looked upon as two-family units, as they get a different
type of building review. He said they don’t have to have a
wall, or a floor completely separating the units. He said that
what makes the in-law apartment is the second kitchen.
Mr. Shaw said there can be rent, but it’s all within the family
relationship. He said that the Board doesn’t ask to see it.
Mr. Reppucci said it’s common that there is some separation and
privacy in the accessory dwelling unit, and there’s not a
restriction to do it if they so choose.
Mr. Falk said a lot of times, it’s just a bedroom door, or an
interior door or hallway. He said the intent is not to go
outside and around the building to get into the accessory
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dwelling unit.
Mr. Currier asked about the 18-foot wide addition, and asked if
it’s a skinny two-car garage.
Mrs. Sadosky said yes, it’s like a 1½ car garage. She said they
couldn’t make it any wider, as there is already an encroachment.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Shaw said that there were several letters of support that
are included in the record, from abutters and neighbors.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the special exception request on
behalf of the owner. Mr. Reppucci stated that the request is
listed in the Table of Uses, Section 190-15, Table 15-1, #3, and
190-16, Table 16-3, and 190-32 (B)(1). Mr. Reppucci stated that
the use will not create undue traffic congestion or unduly
impair pedestrian circulation. He said it will not overload
public water, drainage, or sewer or other municipal systems.
Mr. Reppucci stated that the special regulations will be
fulfilled, and it will not impair the integrity or be out of
character with the neighborhood, or be detrimental to health,
morals or welfare of residents. He said it also requires three
variances, and provided they are approved, the motion is to
grant.
Mr. Reppucci said that under the special exception special
conditions, by testimony, all the special conditions will be
satisfied, provided the variances requested will be
accommodated.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to grant the variance application on
behalf of the owner. Mr. Reppucci stated that the variances are
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needed to enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property,
given the special conditions of the property; and the benefit
sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some other method
reasonably feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than the
area variances.
Mr. Reppucci stated that the use is within the spirit and intent
of the ordinance, it will not adversely affect the property
values of surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to the public
interest, and substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REHEARING REQUESTS:
Rehearing request from Ken Siegel, 3 Lamb Road:
1. Richard C. & Suzanne P. Raisanen (Owners) 11 Lamb Road
(Sheet B Lot 239) requesting the following variances: 1)
minimum lot frontage, 120 feet required – 47.93 feet
proposed; and 2) minimum lot width, 150 feet required –
47.93 feet proposed – both requests to subdivide one lot
into two lots. [REHEARING] R40 Zone, Ward 9.
Mr. Shaw identified the four criteria that the Board must go
over for a rehearing request.
Mr. Shaw asked if there is any procedural error, including
improper notice, or denying someone the right to be heard.
Mr. Currier said everyone had their time to speak, and said
there wasn’t.
Mr. Shaw said he didn’t believe that there was any procedural
error.
Mr. Shaw asked if it were an illegal decision, in other words,
did the Board fail to completely address each of the points of
law required for the special exception and/or variance.
Mr. Reppucci said he believed it was not an illegal decision.
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Mr. Shaw said the rehearing request seems to raise that as a
point, but it’s just the abutter not agreeing with statements
made.
Mr. Reppucci said the items raised are subjective, and he just
doesn’t agree with the things we did. He said that he thought
that he’s wrong on some of his assumptions about what we must
do. He said he didn’t think the scope of the items he’s raising
is out of line, he just didn’t agree with them. He said the
whole process of a rehearing is to allow the Board to correct
mistakes we feel we made, so as to resolve issues before they go
to Court. He said that he believed the Board did everything
legal and proper.
Mr. Creed said that he was one of the most vocal opponents of
this case. He said that he believes that the decision was not
illegal, the Board properly made a decision, and properly
considered everything, and followed the rules, and did what we
were supposed to do. He said he didn’t feel that the decision
was illegal. He said he didn’t feel that the Board should grant
a rehearing.
Mr. Shaw said at this point, the Board doesn’t see anything in
Point #2 that could cause a rehearing.
Mr. Shaw asked if the request for rehearing contains any new
information not presented or available to the Board at the
original Public Hearing.
Mr. Reppucci said he didn’t see anything new. He said there
might be something new, but said his observation was no.
Mr. Currier said that for Point #4, Mr. Siegel said that 5 Lamb
Rd has a mandated buffer area. He said that he feels that the
buffer area is a right of this Board, however, others feel that
it is a Planning Board issue. He said he feels that if the
Zoning Board feels that the buffer is needed, it’s within our
right to do so, because sometimes the Planning Board doesn’t
have the ability to do that. He said that when we have
rehearing requests, it’s an opportunity for us to correct our
mistakes, and to weigh if there is new information. He said
that he believed that the Board was heavily persuaded by the
flag lots up the hill, and how they are currently developed. He
said that the buffer was debated a lot, and it could be relevant
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new information, and it’s worthy to rehear it.
Mr. Reppucci said he’s of the opinion that the people who are
concerned about buffer zones, that the proper venue for them to
use is to go to the Planning Board and present that information
to them, and they can implement buffers on the approval for the
plan as they see fit.
Mr. Currier said a reasonable vegetated buffer along the back
goes a long way, and wished the motion included that, because it
would be a fairer motion.
Mr. Reppucci said he’s struggling to see how the buffer on the
other lot constitutes new information, he said the suggestion
that there’s new information out there, or the story behind the
buffer zones on 5 Lamb Road is eye-opening to the Board, doesn’t
constitute new information, the Board should only look at what’s
before us, and what’s included in the application.
Mr. Johnson said the Board could make that decision to add the
buffers, but it may not have been relevant or pertinent to the
case. He said the Board should not be setting any precedence by
considering adding buffer zones to the cases we get. He said
while 5 Lamb Road has a buffer, it’s not directly related to the
case that we have considered, we are here to grant relief, and
didn’t see that just because 5 Lamb Road has a buffer, it’s just
not that significant.
Mr. Boucher said that he was thinking exactly what Mr. Johnson
just said. He said in the rehearing request, he was looking for
something substantial to read for the rehearing, but didn’t see
anything.
Mr. Shaw asked if anyone is of the opinion that the rehearing
request does contain new information not presented or available
to the Board at the original public hearing.
Mr. Currier said he believes there is new information.
Mr. Reppucci said no.
Mr. Johnson said no.
Mr. Boucher said no.
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Mr. Shaw asked if there is anything which would/could cause the
Board to make a different decision.
Mr. Johnson said no.
Mr. Currier said that four people already have said no. He said
that he believes that there is new information that the Board
hasn’t nailed down, which would/could cause a different
decision.
Mr. Boucher said no.
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to deny the rehearing request as
submitted by Mr. Ken Siegel. Mr. Reppucci stated that the
members who support this motion support the premise that there
were no procedural errors, and there were no improper notices,
and denying someone’s right to be heard. Mr. Reppucci stated
that Mr. Siegel’s reference that #5 in his letter, that the
comment would be significant if was true, he said that the
homeowners in attendance were not allowed to all voice their
opinion on whether this was in fact a beneficial outcome, of the
three homeowners that were asked, one would rather have a
subdivision, and neither of the two were clear on what they
wanted, and I was never asked at all. He said that he didn’t
think it’s true that people weren’t given the opportunity to be
heard, he said everyone had their opportunity to speak according
to the Boards rules and bylaws, and if they wanted to voice an
opinion about that, they didn’t need to be asked by the Board to
do it, they could have just done it. He said that just because
we asked one person a question, and didn’t ask other people the
same question, that doesn’t translate into denying someone the
right to say their opinion on it.
Mr. Currier said he’s in agreement with numbers 1 and 2, and
would prefer that the motion said unanimously the Board agreed
on numbers 1 and 2.
Mr. Reppucci said it was unanimous that there were no procedural
errors, there was no improper notice, denying someone the right
to be heard, and it was unanimous that it was a legal decision,
it was not an illegal decision, the Board did not fail to
completely address each of the points of law required for a
special exception or a variance. He said on the next item,
there was some disagreement of people voting for this motion
agree that there is no new information in this request for
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rehearing, there was a dissenting voice on that, but people
supporting the motion feel that there is no new information on
the rehearing request. He said that for number 4, stating if
there is anything that would/could cause the Board to make a
different decision, he said the same people who supported number
3, support number 4, in that there would be no new opinion. He
said the motion is to deny the rehearing request.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (Mr. Currier).
MISCELLANEOUS:
REGIONAL IMPACT:
Mr. Falk said the Agenda is not finalized. He said that the
next meeting, there are three cases, and he didn’t see any of
them being of regional impact.
MINUTES:
June 12, 2012 and July 10, 2012:
Mr. Reppucci mentioned on Page 11 of the June 12th minutes, the
second paragraph at the end, he thought it should be reworded.
Mr. Currier said that he’d like to see the verbatim exact
language.
Mr. Falk said he’d listen to the tape, and revise it
accordingly, with the exact language that was said.
MOTION by Mr. Johnson to approve the minutes with the
corrections as discussed, waive the reading, and place the
minutes in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Reppucci.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
July 10, 2012 Minutes:
MOTION by Mr. Reppucci to approve the minutes as presented,
waive the reading, and place the minutes in the file.
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SECONDED by Mr. Boucher.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Shaw called the meeting closed at 8:00 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Currier, Clerk.
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July 9, 2012
The following is to be published on ROP July 14, 2012, under the
Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format 65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of
Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday, July
24, 2012, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall Auditorium, 3rd
floor, 229 Main Street.
1. Richard & Diane Sadoski (Owners) 3 Loop Avenue (Sheet C Lot
230) requesting the following: 1) special exception to
allow an accessory (in-law) dwelling unit; and the
following variances: 2) to encroach 23 feet into the 25
foot required right side yard setback, 3) to exceed maximum
area of accessory dwelling unit, 700 sq.ft allowed, 984
sq.ft proposed, and 4) to exceed the maximum floor area for
an accessory dwelling unit, 30% allowed – 41% proposed –
all requests to construct an 18’x24’ attached two-story
addition. R40 Zone, Ward 5.
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
11 Lamb Road, from Ken Siegel
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of
regional impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
"SUITABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THE SENSORY IMPAIRED
WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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