Zoning Board of Adjustment
Regular MeetingNashua, NH · August 14, 2012
Minutes
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PUBLIC HEARING AND MEETING
August 14, 2012
A public hearing of the Zoning Board of Adjustment was held on
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 at 6:30 PM in the Auditorium at City
Hall.
Gerry Reppucci, Vice Chair, conducted the meeting.
Members present were:
Gerry Reppucci, Vice Chair
Jack Currier, Clerk
Rick Johnson
David Creed
J.P. Boucher
Carter Falk, AICP, Deputy Planning Manager/Zoning
Mr. Reppucci explained the Board's procedures, including the
points of law required for applicants to address relative to
variances and special exceptions. Mr. Reppucci explained how
testimony will be given by applicants, those speaking in favor
or in opposition to each request, as stated in the Zoning Board
of Adjustment (ZBA) By-laws. Mr. Reppucci also explained
procedures involving the timing light.
1. Butch Jake & Rosa L. Kwan (Owners) 46 Amherst Street (Sheet
62 Lot 3) requesting variance for minimum lot area, 12,445
sq.ft required, 8,715 sq.ft existing – to convert a single-
family home into a two-family home. RB Zone, Ward 4.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
David Creed
JP Boucher
Rosa Kwan, 43rd Avenue, Woodside, NY. Mrs. Kwan said the request
is to convert a single-family house into a two-family house.
She said her son no longer lives at the location. She said the
two rents will assist in paying the mortgage.
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Mr. Reppucci stated that they cannot use any financial
situations for the points of law. He said that they Board
cannot consider anything financial for the points of law.
Mrs. Kwan said if the rents were lower, it would help provide
for affordable living for two units.
Mr. Reppucci asked how long the house has been empty for.
Mrs. Kwan said they had renters in there four years ago, and
now, it’s been empty for three years.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
Alfredo Kwan, Woodside, NY. Mr. Kwan said the house is empty.
He said they don’t want to sell the house, as they’d lose a lot
of money. He said if they have two units, they’ll earn more
income to maintain the structure better.
Mr. Creed said that there is no detailed plan to review, and
said that the Board shouldn’t be able to consider this request
until a better plan is submitted.
Mr. Kwan said he worked in New York City for over 25 years, and
it would be fine there. He said he was a Chief Estimator in the
City for 25 years.
Mr. Creed said from what he’s seen and heard so far, the idea to
go from a one-family to a two-family came from a realtor.
Mr. Kwan said it’s his idea, he said that the realtor had
nothing to do with the idea. He said the tenants that were in
the house four years ago was a disaster, as the neighbors will
attest. He said they had to evict them, they had parties all
the time, and abused the property.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
Mary Gorman, 44½ Amherst Street, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Gorman asked
the Board to deny the application. She said zoning is to
prohibit overcrowding, and that is what the proposed request
will do. She said the lot needs to be 12,445 square feet, and
it only has 8,715 square feet. She said that when the tenants
were there in the past, they ruined the comfort and tranquility
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of their home. She said they suffered due to the actions of the
tenants, and the inaction of Mr. Kwan to address the
irresponsible behaviors of his tenants. She said the partying,
loud music, noise at all hours of the night, and people
urinating in the yard occurred regularly, and they called the
police eleven times, and showed the Board the sheet, of which
fifteen calls were serviced to 46 Amherst Street. She said that
other neighbors have called, too. She said they notified Mr.
Kwan, and he never responded
Mrs. Gorman said there is no justification to grant the
variance, and there is no hardship in the land. She said the
points of law are not met, and the neighborhood is already
overcrowded. She said his behavior as an absentee landlord
threatens the stability and tranquility of the neighborhood.
She said the request should be denied due to the overcrowding of
the neighborhood.
Kathleen Willey, 48 Amherst Street, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Willey
said she submitted a letter in opposition as well. She said
they are concerned that the house cannot support two families,
and the area is too small, and the parking would be
insufficient. She said they are concerned that the landlords
don’t live here, and problems keep mounting, and it becomes a
Code issue. She said if the back yard area is used for parking,
there wouldn’t be a place for children to play.
Ed Mooney, 44½ Amherst Street, Nashua, NH. Mr. Mooney referred
to his letter that the Board previously received. He read the
letter into the record.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR – REBUTTAL:
Alfredo Kwan. Mr. Kwan said that the 44½ Amherst Street is
called that because the lot was subdivided, and that’s why there
is a house in the back. He said the lot in the front was
divided into two lots. He said they’re trying to maintain a
good relationship with the neighbors.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS – REBUTTAL:
No one.
Mr. Currier said he’s struggling to find support for this
application, and thought that most all the houses on Amherst
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Street have been established for a very long time, as many have
granite slab foundations, and pre-date zoning. He said that he
feels as if it’s an overcrowded situation.
Mr. Creed said that financial considerations are not a part of
this Board’s purview for review of the application. He said
that the plans were very well drawn up, but done by Mr. Kwan
himself. He said the plans show two instances of the exterior
being changed, yet their application makes frequent reference to
the fact that no exterior change will happen. He said the
application itself is a bit premature in the sense that it’s not
ripe for consideration. He said the Board doesn’t have any
definite plans.
Mr. Reppucci said he’s concerned about the abutters with the bad
experiences, it has greatly impacted them. He said that the
house can be rented out again tomorrow, and a bad tenant could
live there if they’re using it as a single family home. He said
on a positive note, if a two family home were approved, it would
be brought up to code, so that would be favorable. He said he
can’t support the application because we’re dealing with an
absentee landlord who has neglected the property for many years.
He said it didn’t make sense that the owners claim that they
have financial hardships, but haven’t even rented the place in
three years, and the house has deteriorated. He said the
abutters concerns are well-founded, and cannot support it.
Mr. Johnson said the request is contrary to the public interest,
based upon the traffic, density, and in this location and this
case, cannot support the application.
Mr. Boucher said he may have looked at this differently, if
there wasn’t the situation with the impacted neighbors. He said
their testimony weighs heavily in this case, and agrees with
previous statements, and is contrary to the public interest.
MOTION by Mr. Johnson to deny the request on behalf of the
owners. Mr. Johnson stated that the hardship is not met,
outside of financial. He stated that for the spirit and intent
of the ordinance, it is not warranted. He said it may not
adversely affect the property values, but it could have other
impacts. He said it is contrary to the public interest,
primarily for density, and building locations, traffic flow, and
the busy nature of Amherst Street, and it does not fit the
criteria that it must not be contrary to the public interest,
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and approving this variance would be contrary to the public
interest, and substantial justice would not be done.
SECONDED by Mr. Creed.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
2. Julie A. & Thomas M. Fetters (Owners) 2 Bishop Lane (Sheet
B Lot 473) requesting variance to maintain a driveway 28.2
feet from an intersecting right-of-way – minimum of 50 feet
required. R9 Zone, Ward 9.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
David Creed
JP Boucher
Julie Fetters, 2 Bishop Lane, Nashua, NH. Mrs. Fetters said
they bought the property in 2000, the houses around here are
basically starter homes. She stated that the addition is out of
the power line easement. She said they were unaware of the
setback of the driveway to the intersection.
Mr. Reppucci said that there are two drawings, and asked for an
explanation of the changes.
Mrs. Fetters stated that the first one just showed the driveway
staying in the original location.
Mr. Reppucci said that the original drawing shows the new
garage, with the garage doors oriented towards Northeastern
Boulevard.
Mrs. Fetters said that plan was just for the building permit for
the construction to be done.
Mr. Reppucci said it would have implied that a new driveway
would be needed to swing around into the new garage.
Mrs. Fetters said that they didn’t know about the Code, or the
need for the variance, so it wasn’t addressed.
Mr. Boucher asked about the traffic on Bishop Lane.
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Mrs. Fetters said one house doesn’t drive, and it is a very
short street.
Mr. Boucher confirmed his knowledge of the traffic with the
applicant.
Mr. Reppucci said that the paving company should have known that
you can’t install a new driveway within fifty feet of a street
intersection.
Mr. Currier asked if staff has received any feedback from DPW.
Mr. Falk said they were aware of the request, but staff did not
get any comments back.
Mr. Creed asked if the driveway would cause a risk of being
rear-ended off of Northeastern Boulevard.
Mrs. Fetters said they usually always use exit 4, they rarely go
up to exit 5.
Mr. Boucher said he’s in support of the proposed request, and
stated that there is a driveway on Stafford Street that is even
closer, and there are no traffic issues there.
Mr. Reppucci said there is a clear line of sight, and they
should be able to stay in their travel lane. He said it doesn’t
seem like a problem. He said the applicant’s testimony about
them not knowing about a variance was credible, and didn’t see
any reason to deny the request.
Mr. Currier said the street is low volume, but Northeastern
Boulevard has a lot more traffic. He said he agrees with the
line of sight not being a problem for the driveway. He said he
believes that the ordinance requirement was not known to the
applicant/owner, and that’s how they got to this point.
Mr. Johnson said he noticed there were other driveways close to
an intersection in this general location. He said he didn’t see
an issue with this request.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
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SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
MOTION by Mr. Boucher to grant the variance on behalf of the
owners. Mr. Boucher stated that the variance is needed to
enable the applicant’s proposed use of the property, given the
special conditions of the property, and the benefit sought by
the applicant cannot be achieved in some other method reasonably
feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than an area
variance.
Mr. Boucher stated that the request is within the spirit and
intent of the ordinance, it will not adversely affect the
property values of surrounding parcels, it is not contrary to
the public interest, and substantial justice is served.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
Mr. Reppucci said he didn’t understand what the easement to the
power company allows them to do.
Mr. Boucher stated that just like the easement we saw in the
south end, when they were going to replace poles, they want the
air space to maintain the main distribution lines. He said they
want clear access, and that’s the intent.
Mr. Currier agreed, and said his neighbor has an easement for
sewer, they can put a driveway across it, but no structure.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
3. Jacqueline Rodriguez (Owner) 51 Monroe Street (Sheet 103
Lot 83) requesting variance for minimum lot area, 12,445
sq.ft required, 6,300 sq.ft existing – to convert a single-
family home into a two-family home. RB Zone, Ward 6.
Voting on this case:
Gerry Reppucci
Jack Currier
Rick Johnson
David Creed
JP Boucher
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Tom Deary, 7 Bates Drive, Nashua, NH. Mr. Deary stated that he
is a friend of the owner. He said when she bought the house,
she bought it as a two-family, but didn’t realize it wasn’t
legal. He said she’s been paying taxes on it as if it’s a two-
family. He said it’s an upstairs/downstairs building, each
floor is the same layout. He said the neighbors have no issue
with the request.
Mr. Deary said that this issue came about when the owner wanted
to separate the electric from upstairs to downstairs, and he
asked Gagne Electric to pull the permit, and it was noted that
the use wasn’t approved.
Mr. Deary said the driveway can fit four cars. He said there’s
a back deck that goes up to a rear entrance, and a front
entrance for the upstairs unit. He said there will be no change
to the exterior of the building.
Mr. Currier stated that the application lists it as an in-law
apartment, and the testimony was that it’s a two-family, at
least in taxes.
Mr. Deary said he wasn’t involved in buying the house, he said
she bought the house under the assumption that it was a two-
family house. He said the previous owner had used it as an in-
law apartment, and a neighbor confirmed that as well.
Mr. Boucher asked if the previous owner asked for permission for
an in-law apartment.
Mr. Falk said they never asked for permission for either an in-
law apartment or a two-family.
Mr. Creed asked how long if the City knew about this.
Mr. Falk said the City was unaware, they had this use for quite
a while.
Mr. Deary said the owner bought it about 11 years ago, but he
didn’t know what it was before that.
Mr. Reppucci said when it was sold as a two-family, he asked if
there was any personal knowledge of that. He said he didn’t
know how it was sold as a two-family, if it’s recorded as a
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single-family in the Registry of Deeds.
Mr. Boucher said that some real estate agents list a property as
a two-family, without doing the proper research according to the
records.
Mr. Falk said that Planning staff doesn’t check MLS listings, or
anything associated with what a real estate company has to sell
a house, and compare them to our records, or what they pay taxes
on. He said if the electrical contractor didn’t come in to
apply for the electric permit to separate the electric, the
internal use of the property could have kept going as it is for
ten or fifteen years.
Mr. Creed asked if the Board is estopped from ruling on this
application, because the City has made a decision, and the
Courts won’t care whether it’s the Zoning Board versus the
Planning Department versus the tax revenue.
Mr. Reppucci asked if the property owner is actually paying
taxes as a two-family.
Mr. Deary said the owner is paying taxes as a two-family, but
didn’t have any documentation with him.
Mr. Creed asked if the owner could get proof of payment of taxes
or a title search within a reasonably quick timeframe.
Mr. Deary said yes.
SPEAKING IN FAVOR:
No one.
SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR WITH QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS:
No one.
Mr. Currier said in 1988, there was a permit for an additional
bedroom, bathroom, living room, for grandparents. He said a
C.O. has a note that the property is to remain as one dwelling
unit.
Mr. Creed said he wants to see proof, there is too much
unsubstantiated testimony, the Board has asked some significant
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questions of the applicant. He said he didn’t think the Board
can make a decision either way, until further proof is
submitted.
Mr. Reppucci said that twelve years ago, you couldn’t have a
two-family with one electrical service with one service in the
house. He said if you have a two-family, you have to have them
separately metered. He said if they’ve been paying taxes as a
two-family since they’ve bought the property, that’s the thing
that triggers deception. He said you should know if you’re
paying taxes on a single-family or a two-family house, because
the tax rate is higher for a two-family.
Mr. Johnson said putting aside the testimony about the taxes,
where the house is located, given the traffic, and the other
testimony that the driveway holds the proper amount of vehicles,
and asked if the tax situation is that relevant that it
determines the outcome of the case.
Mr. Currier said it’s a tight lot. He said there’s not a lot of
room on this property to go from an in-law to a two-family. He
said if it’s been a legal two-family, operating as a two-family,
paying taxes as a two-family. He said it’s a tight lot, but if
they’ve been paying taxes as a two-family for the last twelve
years, maybe the request could be supported.
Mr. Johnson asked if there would be substantial justice in
granting the request, putting all the tax info aside.
Mr. Reppucci said the Board has to look at the intent of the
person who owns the property. He said the City could be being
deprived of revenue over the past twelve or so years, and
they’re entitled to the money. He said if the person has been
paying taxes as a two-family, he said he’d be very confident
that they were doing something wrong.
Mr. Johnson asked if the Board is depending too much on the tax
issue.
Mr. Creed said it’s not within the spirit and intent of the
ordinance. He said the ordinance is there to prevent this from
happening. He said the Board’s job is to enforce the
ordinances.
Mr. Reppucci said the applicant should be prepared to speak
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about the property, and the applicant didn’t have formal
evidence to show that they have paid taxes as a two-family, he
was just told by the owner. He said they applicant needs to
confirm how the taxes have been paid.
Further discussion ensued.
MOTION by Mr. Creed to Table the application as advertised. Mr.
Creed stated that it is tabled to the next meeting so that
evidence may be presented that substantiates or disproves the
testimony regarding taxes and other such issues. He said it’s
tabled to a date certain of August 28, 2012.
SECONDED by Mr. Currier.
Mr. Reppucci asked about the public hearing or meeting for the
next meeting. He said the applicant has a clear understanding
of what the Board’s issues are, and any information the
applicant can bring forward is worthwhile.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
MISCELLANEOUS:
REHEARING REQUESTS:
MISCELLANEOUS:
REGIONAL IMPACT:
Mr. Falk said the first case will be postponed to the first
meeting of September, which is September 11, 2012.
The Board didn’t see any cases for the next Agenda to be of
regional impact.
MINUTES:
July 24, 2012:
MOTION by Mr. Currier to approve the minutes, waive the reading,
and place the minutes in the file.
SECONDED by Mr. Johnson.
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MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Reppucci called the meeting closed at 8:50 p.m.
Submitted by: Mr. Currier, Clerk.
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July 25, 2012
The following is to be published on ROP August 4, 2012,
under the Seal of the City of Nashua, Public Notice Format
65 MP 51.
Notice is hereby given that a Public Hearing of the City of
Nashua Zoning Board of Adjustment will be held on Tuesday,
August 14, 2012, at 6:30 PM at the Nashua City Hall
Auditorium, 3rd floor, 229 Main Street.
1. Butch Jake & Rosa L. Kwan (Owners) 46 Amherst Street
(Sheet 62 Lot 3) requesting variance for minimum lot
area, 12,445 sq.ft required, 8,715 sq.ft existing – to
convert a single-family home into a two-family home.
RB Zone, Ward 4.
2. Julie A. & Thomas M. Fetters (Owners) 2 Bishop Lane
(Sheet B Lot 473) requesting variance to maintain a
driveway 28.2 feet from an intersecting right-of-way –
minimum of 50 feet required. R9 Zone, Ward 9.
3. Jacqueline Rodriguez (Owner) 51 Monroe Street (Sheet
103 Lot 83) requesting variance for minimum lot area,
12,445 sq.ft required, 6,300 sq.ft existing – to
convert a single-family home into a two-family home.
RB Zone, Ward 6.
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Review of Motion for Rehearing:
2. Review of upcoming agenda to determine proposals of
regional impact.
3. Approval of Minutes for previous hearings/meetings.
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WILL BE PROVIDED UPON ADEQUATE ADVANCE NOTICE."
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