Town Council
Regular MeetingAlta, UT · February 8, 2023
Minutes
MINUTES
BUDGET COMMITTEE VIRTUAL MEETING
ALTA TOWN COUNCIL BVIRTUAL MEETING
Wednesday, February 8, 2023, 1:30 PM
Alta Community Center (virtual), 10351 E. Highway 210, Alta, Utah
PRESENT: Mayor Roger Bourke
Councilmember John Byrne
Councilmember Sheridan Davis
Councilmember Elise Morgan
Councilmember Carolyn Anctil (arrived 2pm for Town Council meeting)
STAFF PRESENT: John Guldner, Town Administrator
Chris Cawley, Assistant Town Administrator
Jen Clancy, Town Clerk
Molly Austin, Deputy Clerk
ALSO PRESENT: Cameron Platt, Legal Counsel
Polly McLean, Legal Counsel
Craig Heimark, Treasurer
NOT PRESENT: Mike Morey, Town Marshal
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING
1. CALL THE BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER
00:00:00
Mayor Bourke started the budget committee meeting of February 8, 2023.
2. DISCUSSION OF THE FY24 BUDGET
00:01:25
Craig Heimark started by reminding the committee that last October he gave a slide presentation that
listed recommended changes to the Town’s budget process. He said we would divide the budget process
into the three underlying drivers of increases or changes in the budget, specifically 1) changes in payroll
and staff 2) changes in outside vendor contracts, and 3) changes in our schedules projects. There was
also a suggestion to update the financial reporting to help the councilmembers and citizens understand
where and why Town funds are being spent. Craig was happy to report progress is being made on all
these efforts.
Craig updated the committee on the Mike Swallow wage study. The main take away so far are that top
level employees are underpaid compared with the market. He said that councilmembers would need to
decide how to address the salary discrepancies and whether the Town has sufficient staff to accomplish
its goals. The sense of the committee was to get a Town Manager in place before considering the
addition of new positions and use a phased approach to address staff wages.
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Craig reported that the Capital Projects Committee would be meeting soon.
Jen walked the committee through a summary of the changes anticipated for outside vendors and gave a
brief overview of the summary cover sheet that’s being developed for simplified reporting.
3. MOTION TO ADJOURN
00:32:55
MOTION: Mayor Bourke motioned to adjourn, and John Byrne seconded.
VOTE: All in favor. The budget committee meeting was adjourned.
TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
1. CALL THE REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER AND
DECLARATION
00:33:05
Mayor Bourke called the regular meeting of the Alta Town Council to order for February 8, 2023.
Pursuant to his February 1, 2023 determination Mayor Bourke said that it is in the community’s best
interest to hold this meeting virtually without an anchor location.
2. CITIZEN INPUT
00:34:15
Jen Clancy reported there were no written public comments received.
Dan Ketner requested that the Town consider taking over the Alta Resort Shuttle, the Night Shuttle, and
Town Shuttle programs. He said that he had been doing it for a long time and was tapped out. He added
that he thought the Town would be more eligible for grants.
3. FRIENDS OF ALTA UPDATE – TARA MORIN
00:38:40
Tara Morin introduced herself as the Operations Manager for Friends of Alta. She provided the council
with an overview of what the organization has been up to. She reported that the Executive Director,
Kody Fox took part in a KUTV Fresh Living segment today regarding the gondola proposal. She also
reported they were in the fifth year of the Black Rosy-Finch study, had hired someone to monitor the
legislative session for them, continued to work with various individuals and businesses to monitor an
oppose the gondola proposal, and were preparing for the annual Alta Gala. They are also preparing for
various fundraising and stewardship summer events. Tara said all events are posted on social media and
encouraged folks to sign up for their biweekly newsletters.
4. SHUTTLE UPDATE: RESORT SHUTTLE, TOWN SHUTTLE, NIGHT SHUTTLE –
TOM SCHNEIDER
00:48:55
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Chris Cawley reported that Tom Schneider had provided some January shuttle ridership numbers and he
had a summary of shuttle contributions to share while Tom reviewed the programs. Tom reported that
in January almost 12,000 people rode the three shuttles that operate daily in Alta. He projects that
between 40,000 and 50,000 people would ride the shuttle this winter season. He said the program is not
sustainable the way it is managed with various sources of funding. Tom reported that the day shuttles
funding will end before the season ends and that he is not comfortable being in the position of asking for
more money. He added that some of the funding sources previously received may not be available in
the future and that various contributors have stipulations for the program if they are to contribute which
adds complexity to the management of the program.
Tom reported that you need at least three shuttle buses to run these program and that he would need to
purchase a new shuttle to operate the program “as is” next year. Carolyn Anctil observed that she didn’t
feel that the funding correlates with the usage and doesn’t feel it’s fair, she’d like to see individuals pay.
Adrienne Ruderman offered that the original shares in the shuttle program were determined by bed
count at particular properties. Tom said he thought the Town should take over the funding and let
someone else operate the shuttles. He offered he would be willing to operate the shuttles again (he
supports the Town soliciting bids from other companies) but needs to know what the plan is because he
would need to purchase a new shuttle which costs $160,000 and needs to be ordered by April. It was
noted that for all three shuttles to operate the same way as this year the budget would be $220,000 which
is roughly 10% of the Town’s budget.
5. ALTA CHAMBER AND VISITOR’S BUREAU REPORT – BRANDON OTT
01:18:00
Brandon Ott introduced himself as the President of ACVB and Marketing Director for Alta Ski Area.
Brandon gave updates on the Alta Shuttle, Time Well Spent campaign, and membership dues. He
highlighted that the mission statement had been recently revised to enhance the experience for locals and
visitors as opposed to simple attracting more people. Chris Cawley provided an overview of the
2022/23 amended budget of $70,736. Chris reported he is working on the contract to facilitate the
contributions from the Town’s budget to ACVB for this fiscal year.
6. ALTA SKI AREA UPDATE – MIKE MAUGHAN
01:36:25
Mike Maughan reported that they had put together a proposal that’s been submitted to the USFS to
replace the roadside parking with parking in the wildcat parking lot. Mike has an upcoming meeting
with the forest service on site for them to review the ski area master plan and projects for the next year.
He reported he met with UDOT today to discuss what can be done in the next 3-5 years regarding up-
canyon congestion (slick roads and canyon closures) and down-canyon congestion caused by main line
closures.
Mike said the business levels this year are close to where they were last year in terms of the number of
skiers. Icon visitation is down a little for Alta whereas for the other Cottonwood Resorts are 25-50%
greater thus far. There is record snowfall through the end of January. They are working with UTA to
understand if there will be any changes to ski bus service next year and have submitted a plan to UTA to
adjust the top of the wildcat ramp to see if it’s acceptable to UTA to allow buses to make the turn so
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they could service both the GMD and Albion lots. He commented this could alleviate some of the need
for the shuttles.
Mike commented that John Guldner would be greatly missed, his knowledge and understanding of the
ordinances in Town has been invaluable. He thanked John.
7. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA: JANUARY 11, 2023 MEETING MINUTES,
TREASURER’S REPORTS, AND STAFF REPORTS
01:48:30
MOTION: Mayor Bourke motioned to approve the consent agenda including the January 11,
2023 minutes, and staff and financial reports, and Sheridan Davis seconded.
VOTE: All in favor. The consent agenda including the January 11, 2023 minutes, and staff and
financial reports was unanimously approved.
8. QUESTIONS REGARDING DEPARTMENTAL REPORTS
01:49:20
John Byrne asked Jen Clancy how much of the $564,000 in the water fund might be moved to next years
budget? John Guldner chimed in that he thought $370,000 for Peruvian Estates West, and close to
$100,000 for Grizzly Gulch. Jen Clancy added that they were likely to only spend $10,000 on the water
meter project this year.
9. MAYOR’S REPORT
01:51:00
Mayor Bourke reported he was amazed at how well the Marshal’s Department and others keep us all
safe and moving. He stated that roughly 25 years ago the Town had received an award for organizing
the road committee. To date, the Alta website is reporting 493” of snow breaking records since 1981/82
season and we have more snow forecasted for next week. The Town experienced several incidents of
fraudulent charges to our bank accounts that have now stopped due to efforts of John Guldner.
The Mayor signed a letter that went to District Ranger Bekee Hotze that recommended elimination of
some roadside parking between the wildcat ramp and the DPH as a safety measure. The District Ranger
informed the Mayor it would take some time for her to act on the parking proposals as she is quite short
staffed. The Mayor mentioned HB 276 and noted that if enacted it would open the water provisions and
require Salt Lake City to provide water to areas outside the service area boundaries, including the
undeveloped lots in Albion Basin. The bill has been referred to committee and will not be enacted in
this session, but we expect to see it again. The Mayor attended the Wasatch Front Regional Council
meeting on January 26 and while its usually a benign affair, on this date there was a huge crowd (~100
people) with standing room only mostly made up of people there to oppose the gondola.
The staff engaged in an exercise to identify significant issues and challenges over the next 3 years and
the top results included staffing and human capital as well as infrastructure. He announced that every
two years, two of the council seats expire and he would like more candidate than fewer candidates (not a
reflection on the two incumbents) in the upcoming election.
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Mayor Bourke said a newsletter piece about John Guldner’s retirement had been circulated. He then
caringly reflected on how John had advised him over the years. He thanked John for all he has done for
everyone.
10. OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ACT TRAINING, Q & A – POLLY MCLEAN
02:04:00
Polly McLean reviewed a presentation outlining why and how Town business can be conducted in a
transparent place. She identified the spirt of the Open and Public Meeting Act (OPMA), reviewed what
a meeting is and is not, who has to follow OPMA, what makes a quorum, how to use email for Town
business, electronic meetings, the reasons for closed-door meetings, notice requirements, public
comment, minutes and recordings, emergency meetings, and violations of OPMA.
11. DISCUSSION ON AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THE ROLE OF TOWN
MANAGER
02:16:15
Mayor Bourke said an ordinance has not been drafted. With John Guldner’s departure we are going to
revisit how the Town staff operates. The Mayor explained that in promoting the title of Town Manager
he hadn’t duly understood the State definition of such a title and so he now preferred to refer to this
position as chief of staff. He expects a draft ordinance by the next council meeting. John Byrne asked
the Mayor what issues he had with the title and noted, to him a Town Manager could be whatever the
town council defined it as in an ordinance. John explained the bigger issue in creating this position by
ordinance was to decide if the position is unempowered and a conduit (no real authority), or if some of
the Mayor’s powers and duties should be delegated to the Town Manager via an ordinance. This would
separate the day-to-day operation of the Town and leave the legislative and policy responsibilities to the
Mayor and council. He said essentially you are delegating authority to execute the policies of the
governing body. He added that this is also about right sizing the Mayor’s responsibilities.
Cameron Platt said there were three main areas he was looking for direction from the council on. He felt
the title ultimately didn’t matter much because we can write the ordinance to delegate the duties that the
council wants. He does need direction on the chain of authority, and where that should go. He also
asked what authority the council wants to give to the person in this position? He highlighted talking
about executive duties is important because if you delegate the executive duties to the manager it will
remove some work from the mayor, but that move could also increase the work for the council and he
wants to council to understand this shift in practical application. Cameron summarized the decisions as
what chain of authority does the council want for this position and what duties do they want the manager
to do. Craig Heimark added that a job description for the Mayor could also help.
Sheridan Davis agreed this role should be an empowered role and sought clarification on if the Town
manager could be fired by the Mayor without the consent and approval of the council. Cameron
explained under the current framework the Town Administrator is appointed by the Mayor with advice
and consent of the council and the Town Administrator derives their authority from the Mayor’s
authority and so the chain of command goes through the Mayor. The Mayor could dismiss a Town
Administrator under the current framework without input from the council.
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Mayor Bourke clarified that in his model the Chief of Staff works and takes direction from the Mayor;
that he/she does not take direction from individual councilmembers, but consensus of the council via the
Mayor. It’s the Mayor’s role to sort it out what’s okay and not okay with the town council. The Mayor
said the town’s chief of staff needs one boss. John Byrne asked if the person would be empowered or
just doing what the mayor asked, and suggested we would be better off if the person was executing the
will of the governing body which includes the Mayor but isn’t the Mayor alone.
(Elise Morgan left the meeting)
Mayor Bourke indicated the ordinance could be drafted and bounced off the councilmembers in advance
of the next meeting to collect input. John Byrne offered to help Cameron on the empowered manager
side of things.
12. NEW BUSINESS
02:51:25
Polly McLean brought up that the Utah League of Cities and Town’s has a legislative policy committee
that meets once a week during the legislative session and the Town’s participation is outdated and
should be updated. The Mayor suggested he, Chris Cawley, and Cameron Platt sign up and no one
opposed.
Carolyn Anctil asked about the noise ordinance. Cameron shared that the Marshal’s department had
issued two warnings for the noise violations. There has been some discussion amongst staff about
following up with the property owners regarding noise mitigation plans.
13. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO COMMENCE A CLOSED DOOR
SESSION FOR DISCUSSION OF THE CHARACTER, PROFESSIONAL
COMPETENCE, OR PHYSICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH OF AN INDIVIDUAL AS
AUTHORIZED BY UTAH CODE SECTION 52-4-205(1)(a)
03:01:00
The Mayor reported there was not a reason to hold a closed door session today.
14. MOTION TO ADJOURN
03:03: 45
MOTION: Sheridan Davis motioned to adjourn, and John Byrne seconded.
VOTE: All in favor. The meeting was adjourned.
Passed this 8th day of March, 2023
_____________________
Jen Clancy, Town Clerk
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Agenda
MAYOR TOWN OF ALTA
ROGER BOURKE P.O. BOX 8016
ALTA, UTAH 84092
TOWN COUNCIL
CAROLYN ANCTIL TEL (801) 363-5105
JOHN BYRNE (801) 742-3522
SHERIDAN DAVIS FAX (801)742-1006
ELISE MORGAN TTY 711
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING 1:30 – 2:00PM
ALTA TOWN COUNCIL MEETING 2:00-4:00 PM
Wednesday, February 8, 2023
This meeting will be an electronic meeting without an anchor location pursuant to
Mayor Bourke’s February 1, 2023 determination:
https://townofalta.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/2023-2-8-Determination-Letter-Location-SIGNED.pdf
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If you are unable to attend the meeting, you may provide public input in writing on the Town’s website:
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Budget Committee Meeting Start End
1 Call the meeting to order 1:30 - 1:30
2 Discussion of the FY24 Budget 1:30 - 2:00
3 Motion to Adjourn 2:00 - 2:00
Regular Meeting:
1 Call the meeting to order and declaration 2:00 - 2:05
2 Citizen Input 2:05 - 2:10
3 Friends of Alta Update - Kody Fox 2:10 - 2:20
4 Shuttle Update: Resort Shuttle, Town Shuttle, Night Shuttle - Tom Schneider 2:20 2:30
5 Alta Chamber and Visitors' Bureau Report - Brandon Ott 2:30 2:40
6 Alta Ski Area Update – Mike Maughan 2:40 - 2:55
7 Approval of Consent Agenda: January 11, 2023 Meeting Minutes, Staff and 2:55 - 3:00
Finance Reports
8 Questions regarding Departmental Reports 3:00 - 3:05
9 Mayor's Report 3:05 - 3:15
10 Open Public Meeting Act Training, Q & A - Polly McLean 3:15 - 3:35
11 Discussion on an ordinance to establish the role of Town Manager 3:35 - 3:50
12 New Business 3:50 - 3:55
13 Discussion and possible action to commence a closed door session for 3:55 - 4:00
discussion of the character, professional competence, or physical or mental
health of an individual as authorized by Utah Code section 52-4-205(1)(a)
14 Motion to Adjourn 4:00 -
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the proceedings as if physically present. The anchor location for purposes of the electronic meeting is the ALTA COMMUNITY CENTER,
10361 EAST HWY 210, ALTA, UTAH
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• By motion of the Alta Town Council, pursuant to Title 52, Chapter 4 of the Utah Code, the Town Council may vote to hold a closed meeting for
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