Budget and Finance Subcommittee
Regular MeetingAmesbury, MA · March 22, 2022
Minutes
RECEIVED
By City Clerk at 2:38 pm, 5/26/22
AMESBURY
CITY HALL
62 Friend Street
Amesbury, MA 01913
City Council Finance Committee Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 7:15 PM or Immediately Following Special City Council Meeting
Amesbury City Hall Auditorium
Finance Committee Chair Stanganelli called the meeting to order at 8:40 PM.
Roll Call was taken and present were: Councilor Deschenes, Councilor Frey, Councilor Hickok,
Councilor Hogg, Councilor Lennon, Councilor Mandeville, Councilor Rinaldi, Councilor Wheeler and
Councilor Stanganelli (9)
Minutes for Approval: None at this time.
Communications & Updates:
Chief Financial Officer, Marisa Batista, asked the Finance Committee how they would like their
monthly reports. She apologized for not having anything for tonight’s meeting, however she has
been in budget meetings since she has started.
o She said that she does think a couple departments will be needing transfers. Year-end
transfers are allowed from May 15 to July 15 with approval from the city council.
Councilor Stanganelli asked what the free cash is currently and where does the City stand
financially.
o Marisa answered, the free cash was certified at $1.9 million, it is to her understanding
there have not been any City Council votes on free cash, so she believes the free cash
still stands at the certified amount.
o Regarding expenditures, she said she is still going through everything in detail to see
which accounts and where anything was expended from.
o She said she is working with department heads to see if these transfers will be able to be
absorbed by their budgets.
Councilor Stanganelli took a straw poll on if the committee would like the monthly reports to be
the same as they were with the previous CFO. The consensus was, yes.
Councilor Stanganelli told Maria that the reports were emailed to the Finance Committee prior to
their meetings as well as posted on the Administration and Finance page of the Amesbury
website.
Councilor Mandeville noted, he would like the new CFO to use her discretion to add anything
important or anything she thinks the Finance Committee would like to see. He encourages her
creativity and fresh thoughts.
Councilor Wheeler noted that the reports on the website have not been updated since September
[2021] and if they are available, to please update the website.
o Marisa stated she understood and will update them.
Public Comment
None at this time.
2022-033 An Order to authorize the transfer of $116,453 from the FY22 Reserve Fund to the FY22 Fire +
Emergency Management operating budget. – Mayor Sponsor
Councilor Stanganelli noted, for context, in 2021-001 the FY22 budget as approved, item 220 was
the total Fire Department budget of $3,756,665.00. This included salaries at $3,527,669.00 and
other expenses at $228,996.00. The approved Fire Department budget can be found on page 60
of the budget book for reference.
Mayor Gove gave a statement: Good evening, councilors, and members of the public, I’m here
tonight with some of our department heads- some of them new and some of them well-known to all
of you. As you are all keenly aware, we stand before you now to request a budget transfer from
the city’s reserves to supplement our fire rescue’s expenses for the remaining of FY22. Of course,
this is not a position that any of us want to be in; however, this request has been carefully vetted
and there are some major factors driving this.
1. The fire department’s budget for expenses, which do not include salaries and wages and other
personnel expenses has been on a downward trajectory and the FY22 budget for expenses was
almost $70,000 short of FY18.
2. Additionally, the budgeting process for ambulance billing has changed this fiscal year and will
result in approximately $40,000 being expensed to the department’s budget. If this change had
been identified during last year’s budget planning process, this appropriation would have been
included.
Bottom line: the FY22 fire department budget for other expenses- not relating to salaries and
wages is insufficient and requires this supplement.
All of our department heads are held to the highest standards when it comes to managing their
operating funds. I am working closely with Chief Berkenbush on his budget, and Amesbury fire
rescue will need to request approval prior to incurring expenses for the rest of this fiscal year.
With our new chief financial officer joining us we will also have a fresh set of eyes to help Chief
Berkenbush through the FY23 budget process and assist in keeping the department on track in
the future. Amesbury fire rescue is the only full-service medical response team in the region and
provide a much-needed service to our and surrounding communities. I am committed to
supporting their important work while also making sure that we are utilizing taxpayer dollars
efficiently and responsibly.
Our new CFO and I will be looking at current processes and will make any necessary
adjustments to ensure this doesn't happen in future years.
The council order transfer request in front of you all this evening in the amount of $116,453 was
determined using actual past invoices and realistic projected expenses from December through
June.
We do, in fact, have critical expenses pending payment to keep this department’s services intact,
and I urge council to consider this request on behalf of the city. We do not want to be in a
position of having to defend ourselves against claims, be deprived of services or jeopardize the
reputation and character of our great city.
In closing, we thank you for your consideration and are here tonight to answer any questions you
may have.
Fire Chief Berkenbush will take the lead from here and answer your questions.
Fire Chief, Ken Berkenbush, stated he would like to run through the entire sheet (attachment 1)
that has been given to City Council; run through it, explain how we [the fire department] got here
and some of the mitigating factors surrounding it.
o He started with 5211, Fire Electricity. He said the electricity bills are paid by the finance
department. He does not see them and does not know how much money is in that account.
o 5212, Fire Heat. He said the Fire Department (FD) currently owes $4,123.00 to National
Grid and Sprig Electric. They have not paid any bills since December. Unsure of what the
heating cost will be, he put into anticipating costs, $8,129.32
o Fire Building Maintenance, this has had some unique things paid for out of it [the account].
One of the things is the sharps container box kiosk, that has been purchased and will be
in use by the end of the week at the Police Department. That cost was $6,402.00. He said
the FD was told to take it out of this line and the previous CFO was going to transfer it from
one of the public health lines, that never happened so it stayed in the maintenance line.
This line has traditionally been underfunded for years. The FD recently lost their
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dishwasher/sanitizer, according to National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) and the
Department of Public Health Services this machine is required to maintain the protection
against food borne illnesses or accidents. The dishwasher itself is $4,300.00 (attachment
2) and installation is estimated at about $1,500.00; a plumber and electrician will need to
be hired. In addition to the washer, the Plymovent system (the diesel exhaust extrication
system) has two annual maintenance payments of $1,950.00. The second payment is due
currently. He explained some of the other expenses are from the Plymovent repairs, garage
door panels and other fixtures that need repairs in the building.
o Fire Ambulance Repair, currently the FD owes $3,440.00, he believes there are 2 more
bills pending. One was for replacing a set of tires on ambulance 2.
o Fire Alarm Maintenance, he explained how there is old wire on top of the polls, occasionally
it breaks and will be swinging in the street. When that happens, he needs to call someone
with a bucket truck to come and cut them. The $775.00 represents that, that line was
zeroed out.
o Fire Apparatus Maintenance, this line was renamed last year, and all of the items were
moved down to Fire Vehicle Supplies.
He said he has been trying to realign the FD budget’s line items, because they do
not make much sense to him. He is trying to write them to explain what they are
and how they are spent.
o Fire Repair and other Equipment, there were a couple of things that came up in that this
year. The FD put in for an Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) for over $200,000.00 to
assist with purchasing new Self-Contained Breathing Apparatuses (SCBA). The SCBA
have been needing repairs, the last one was $900.00. There is also Hydro Testing, which
was thought to be next year but was this year costing, $2,800.00.
o Ambulance Billing, there is a private company that bills and they take a percentage of 4.5%.
What was done previously was the fee was billed directly out of the ambulance fund. What
was said, the fee needed to be in a line item someone in the budget. So, the previous CFO
said it should come out of the Fire Department’s budget. $15,000.00 has already been
billed out. The Ambulance fees have been raised this year, so it is expected to pay more
in collection fees.
o Fire Training, the FD currently owes $1,981.20. What this line is used for is online training
for the Fire Fighters. Massachusetts became an OSHA state a few years ago and requires
certain trainings throughout the year. This way the trainings can be assigned, completed,
and documented. All the courses are OSHA certified. This adds a layer of protection to the
city.
o Fire Communications, this line item handles not only all the communications for the Fire
Department but EMS as well. The EMS side of things is expensive. The ambulances run
two modems which must have tight cyber security since they house patient health history.
There are data monitors hooked up to the cardio monitors. These will send information to
the doctor’s while the patient is in transit in the ambulance.
o EMS Recerts, this is the money paid out to the people who complete their certifications.
They are paid for their licensure as part of the collective bargaining agreement, they
produce their license, and we produce their payment. He stated the $10,000.00 bill was a
mistake on his part and takes responsibility for it. It was something that had to be done, it
was not budgeted for.
o Fire Vehicle Supplies, the brakes on Fire Engine 1 will need to be replaced before May or
it will be rendered out of service. The estimate for that is $11,400.00 from ATG a truck
repair company in Seabrook, NH (attachment 3).
o Apparatus Fuel, originally there was going to be a turnback of $8,602.41, but due to the
state of the year, the FD would like to take it out of Apparatus Fuel and put it into Fire
Building Maintenance.
o Ambulance Equipment and Supplies, there have been great increases different areas in
EMS:
fuel costs
medical supplies
medical supplies have gone up [in price] 20-30% monthly
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the monthly medication cost have gone from $800.00-$900.00 a month to
up around $1,200.00-$1,300.00 a month.
A big factor in the rising prices of medical supplies is the increased run
volume over the past two years. In FY20 there were 1,139 EMS transports.
In FY21 there were 1,317 total transports. This year [FY22] year to date
there have been 1,683 transports. The FD has gone from doing roughly
100 transports a month to 210.
o Fire Prevention, this includes classes, and trainings.
o Protective Equipment, there was a lot of money spent at the beginning of the year, the
reason was the FD hired 4 new employees. They needed new gear. There was money set
aside last year for this, but the gear did not show up until this year [FY22]. Chief
Berkenbush stated he will not put the Amesbury Fire Department in danger because of
their clothes or trucks.
Councilor Wheeler noted that he had passed out a document with questions on it for the Fire
Department (attachment 4). He yields to the rest of the council for questions before going through
the document.
Councilor Rinaldi asked if the prices of the ambulance fees went up.
o Assistant Fire Chief, David Mather, stated that every fiscal year, the FD looks at the
ambulance fees. There are a lot of different methods to determine what to charge.
Medicare is the base rate, everything above that is a percentage. The FD tries to stay
around Medicare + 250%. There is no fighting for it or resubmitting to insurance companies.
Private insurance companies have different rates, the FD has contracts with a lot of them.
When you see the statements, you’ll see a contractual allowance vs. what is billed. The FD
can bill for whatever they want but if there is a contracted agreement with an insurance
company, that’s what will be collected. There are a lot or rules and regulations in the billing
process, that is why there is a third-party billing company.
Councilor Stanganelli stated there were a number of items in the actual expenditure which were
lower than the appropriated amount. He noted, that some of the [Fire Department] account numbers
and the sheet Councilor Wheeler provided did not match.
Councilor Wheeler referenced his comment/question packet (attachment 2)
o He made a comment on projected expenditures vs. actual expenditures. He noted that
although the budget process starts a little over ¾ the way through the year, the department
should have a pretty accurate picture of what will be spent.
He noted that the Fire Department in FY21 had listed their line-item
Communications as $10,000.00 however they spent $30,000.00. They then
budgeted for $10,000.00 for FY22 and spent $30,000.00 again.
o He stated that a lot of the account codes had been changed since the approval of the FY22
budget last year.
He used the line-item Fuel as an example.
Chief of Staff, Ann Marie Casey, explained the increase costs in fuel, heat and electricity during
this economy.
Councilor Rinaldi asked what the original budget, before labor services, was for the Fire
Department.
o Councilor Stanganelli replied, the order 2021-001 approved the Fire Department Expenses
budget at, $228,996.00. Labor itself was, $3,527,669.00. He wanted to note that the
appropriation in question is 3% of the total Fire Department budget.
Councilor Hickok asked if the Fire Chief or Administration believe that the uprise in ambulance
revenue will help with next year’s budget.
o Chief Berkenbush stated, he believes yes, the rise in service will aid in the budget. Fiscal
year to date, the FD has collected $635,024.31. This is more than what was collected last
year and there is still 3 or 4 more months to go.
CFO, Marisa Batista, clarified there is an Ambulance Receipts Reserve for Appropriation fund,
which is completely separate from the General Fund.
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Councilor Lennon commented on line 5501 Ambulance Supplies in the budget book has the asterix
next to it with the note, “Partially funded with AARPA funds”. She asked where those funds are and
why there is no mention of them today.
She mentioned how she feels this is a case of the Fire Department spending money then asking
for forgiveness from Council. That is not something that can continue to happen. She wants to hear
how this is going to get better, how everyone is going to be proactive to not let this happen again.
She said just because the community doesn’t have a microscope on this situation, doesn’t mean
there never will be and when there is, everyone in this room will have to answer to them. She does
not want it to get to that point. She said she wants the Fire Department to go through the request
again and make the numbers smaller and the explanations clearer. She doesn’t want to explain to
other department heads that it’s ok to do this, nor does she want to explain to tax payers that it is
ok to do this.
Councilor Mandeville stated it would be good practice to show the revenues vs. wear and tear
expenses pertaining to the ambulances. Since the ambulances are bringing in more work which
means more revenue, the expenses will go up as well. If there were comparisons that showed the
correlation, it would not be as scary as it is now.
Councilor Wheeler went over the comment/question sheet he distributed.
Councilor Wheeler asked, how much of this [appropriation request] was inflation and rising cost
and how much was improper budgeting?
o Chief Berkenbush said about 30% is due to inflation and unforeseen costs. Historically the
Fire Expenses are around $300,000.00.
Councilor Deschenes asked to confirm that the expenses are usually $300,000.00
o Chief Berkenbush confirmed yes, $270,000.00 to $300,000.00.
Councilor Deschenes wanted to comment, he agrees with Councilor Lennon. He remembers 20
years ago sitting on the Council and having the Fire Chief [different than Chief Berkenbush] asking
the same thing. He reiterated what Councilor Lennon had said about departments spending money
and asking forgiveness.
Councilor Frey asked what the amount in the reserve fund is.
o The CFO responded, $153,321.00.
Councilor Hickok noted that the CFO had spoken about a couple of other departments that might
need transfers at the end of the fiscal year, if this order is passed and the $116,000.00 is
appropriated, that would leave $30,000.00 or so for the remaining departments if they go over
budget.
o She confirmed, yes. She said there are two ways to pay the excess debt, either by turn-
backs in other budgets or a free cash vote.
Councilor Stanganelli wanted to note that the previous year’s budget was greater than the actual
expenditure, and this year’s actual expenditure is about the same amount that got turned back last
year. He said when it comes to public safety, he will echo the previous chair of Finance Committee
and say, ‘You cannot put a price on public safety’.
Councilor Wheeler motioned to continue order 2022-033 to a Special Finance Committee
meeting on April 12, 2022. Councilor Mandeville seconded the motion. Seven (7) members voted
in favor; two (2) members opposed (Hickok & Stanganelli). Motion passed.
Councilor Wheeler made a point of order, the Council rules declare that a vote must take place if the
council would like to extend the meeting past 10:30 PM.
Councilor Wheeler motioned to extend the meeting no later than 11:00PM. Councilor
Mandeville seconded this motion. Motion passed unanimously.
2022-034 An Order to authorize the Mayor to expend funds not previously approved from a
Massachusetts School Building Authority (MSBA) grant to replace the Amesbury Elementary School
(AES) with a new building. - Mayor Sponsor
Mayor Gove stated, the project funding agreement has two totals on it, when the grant was
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initially written the lower of the two numbers.
o It could take years until we get up to 24 million.
Councilor Stanganelli asked when the first time under MSBA rules this should have been done.
o Mayor Gove stated, 2019. The funding agreement was signed by the previous
administration and the grant had not been accepted.
Councilor Wheeler motioned to send order 2022-034 back to City Council with a positive
recommendation. Councilor Hickok seconded the motion. Five (5) members voted in favor; one (1)
opposed (Stanganelli), and three (3) abstentions (Deschenes, Lennon & Mandeville). Motion
passed.
Councilor Lennon motioned to adjourn. Councilor Hogg seconded this motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:47 PM
Respectfully Submitted by, Ellie Andersen, April 21, 2022
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Agenda
RECEIVED
By City Clerk at 8:25 am, 3/16/22
AMESBURY
CITY HALL
62 Friend Street
Amesbury, MA 01913
MEETING NOTICE
POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF M.G.L. CHAPTER 30A §§18-25
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City Council Finance Committee Meeting
Tuesday, March 22, 2022
City Hall Auditorium, 62 Friend St.
7:15 PM or immediately following the Special City Council meeting
Topics for Discussion / Agenda:
Roll Call
Minutes for Approval: None at this time.
Communications & Updates:
Monthly Financial Reports
Free Cash Review
Review/Update on Past Actions
Workshop – Other Municipal Finance
Public Comment
2022-033 An Order to authorize the transfer of $116,453 from the FY22 Reserve Fund to the FY22 Fire +
Emergency Management operating budget. – Mayor Sponsor
Summary: Ordered that $116,453 be transferred from the FY22 Reserve Fund which has a current
balance of $153,321 to fund non-budgeted expenses of the FY22 Fire + Emergency Management
operating budget.
2022-034 An Order to authorize the Mayor to expend funds not previously approved from a
Massachusetts School Building Authority (MSBA) grant to replace the Amesbury Elementary School
(AES) with a new building. - Mayor Sponsor
Summary: Council Bill 2021-138 was approved and certified allowing the Mayor to expend this grant
from the MSBA up to the amount of $23,942,384. Upon further review the amount previously approved
did not include the maximum amount of reimbursable expenses from owner’s contingency as provided in
the MSBA grant and therefore the amount should read $24,466,254.
Respectfully submitted,
March 16, 2022
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